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Annoying Vibration Motor

I've been using my 5X for a day now, and my one major complaint is the terrible vibration motor. The thing makes more noise than it does vibrate.
The original Nexus 5 had great feeling haptic feedback that made very little noise. Whereas, the 5X makes an obnoxious high pitch "beeping" type noise that sounds like it's coming from the earpiece.
I was typing on the 5X in bed last night, and the vibration feedback was so audibly loud that I had to disable it, for fear of waking my wife.
Part of me is hoping this is a manufacturing defect, but I am doubtful...
Here's a side by side video demonstrating the 5 vs 5X:
https://youtu.be/f-D93hEoPpA

There's a thread for that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3226848
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Sounds like they got their vibration motors from Motorola!
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robstunner said:
Sounds like they got their vibration motors from Motorola!
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But the Motorola motors have one advantage, though highly audible, at least you can FEEL them! They vibrate and serve their intended purpose.
The 5x motor is barely felt yet highly audible!

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But the Motorola motors have one advantage, though highly audible, at least you can FEEL them! They vibrate and serve their intended purpose.
The 5x motor is barely felt yet highly audible!
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Ah, well that stinks.
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haptic motor seems fine to me when i started using it. However, i've always turned off haptic everything for all my phones anyway so....... yeah.

I made a video comparing the Nexus 5 and the 5X vibration noise.
https://youtu.be/f-D93hEoPpA

rockhstrongo said:
I made a video comparing the Nexus 5 and the 5X vibration noise.
https://youtu.be/f-D93hEoPpA
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That's so annoying! Lol. I don't use haptic for the keyboard so it isn't too bad for me, but for other haptic stuff, I know it will be
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I never use it, but the best way to describe it is it is tiny. Some prefer a deep rumble. It makes no noise on mine

While not dismissing your opinion, I can see how this might not be something that everyone likes, I love it (so far). I qualify that statement.
Yes I can totally understand the annoyance of the sound I do love the immediacy of the feedback and while I don't want to say that it's stronger than the N5 it definitely feels more sharp and distinct. Now saying that I always felt that the haptic feedback on the original felt far too dull for my liking. I guess it's a personal thing but I can agree that the noise it generates would be preferably absent in a perfect world.

nexus phones never have a solid good vibrator. Nexus 6 being worst.

jtwlbz said:
nexus phones never have a solid good vibrator. Nexus 6 being worst.
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I don't think the n6 had a chirping sound when vibrating?

My N6 didn't chirp but the vibration at 100% was bad sounding. With a kernel tweaker it needs to be at about 50%. With the 5X, it's way less, very subdued, almost too subdude

As soon as I pulled the phone out of the box and turned it on, I immediately noticed this. I hope there is a fix.
For some people, this might not be a big deal, but I tend to pick up on subtle sounds, and it is definitely audible.

I have this exact same problem. It is obnoxious. I'm not sure how anyone who prefers key noises off could deal with this. I thought it was the speaker when I first got it. The haptic feedback is mostly felt through the back of the phone and the fingers/palm touching the underside. Which doesn't make much sense at all considering it's supposed to make it feel like you're touching the screen. On the screen it is way too underpowered. So basically there are no benefits to it at all on the phone. I have a replacement order already in the mail, but if it comes with the issue again I'm hoping they can upgrade me to the 6P or something (despite not wanting the extra size). It's sad that I have to compromise on the successor to the best nexus phone built just because either nobody noticed this or cared during production, or because of poor quality assurance.

Are you guys sure it's the faulty vibro motor and not it's placement? I remember how Nexus 10 had a very weird noise for vibration, and turns out the motor was placed right under one of the speaker grills, which resulted in the audible noise amplified by the empty space within the grill

Just got my nexus 5x. It doesn't sound anything near as loud as the moto. I'd say it's close to the audible noise of a Samsung. Which is fine with me. It might not be as strong of a vibrate, but its as least quiet. No point in having your phone in vibrate only mode when your phone's vibrations can be heard across the room!
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robstunner said:
Just got my nexus 5x. It doesn't sound anything near as loud as the moto. I'd say it's close to the audible noise of a Samsung. Which is fine with me. It might not be as strong of a vibrate, but its as least quiet. No point in having your phone in vibrate only mode when your phone's vibrations can be heard across the room!
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Great to hear, hated the one from Moto x2
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Fatal1ty_93_RUS said:
Are you guys sure it's the faulty vibro motor and not it's placement? I remember how Nexus 10 had a very weird noise for vibration, and turns out the motor was placed right under one of the speaker grills, which resulted in the audible noise amplified by the empty space within the grill
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This isn't the issue. For me most of the vibration is through the back of the phone and very little is felt with the screen-touching finger. In fact, the beeping noise from the video on page 1 (watch it if you're not sure of the noise) sounds more like it's coming from more on the top left (SD card area). With or without an SD card in or the tray removed entirely, the noise is the same.

I describe it as a large mosquito noise.... and I like it .

Anyone else think earpiece is too quiet?

Maybe my nexus 6 was just that good but it feels like the v20's earpiece speaker isnt very clear or loud....I can live with lower quality but the sound level is kind of low (hard to hear people in noisy places)

bob2300nx said:
Maybe my nexus 6 was just that good but it feels like the v20's earpiece speaker isnt very clear or loud....I can live with lower quality but the sound level is kind of low (hard to hear people in noisy places)
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Yeah its low (with my over the ear cans), went all in on a descent amp that can usb of my pc and/or directly off my phone. Like my cans to rattle sometimes. With my IEMs though it gets loud after 50-60. Id make sure you have enabled Hi-Fi sound on the phone first and found this app to be very useful in adding some punch and volume to my tracks. ----> Equalizer (by Smart Android Apps)
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JkdJedi said:
Yeah its low (with my over the ear cans), went all in on a descent amp that can usb of my pc and/or directly off my phone. Like my cans to rattle sometimes. With my IEMs though it gets loud after 50-60. Id make sure you have enabled Hi-Fi sound on the phone first and found this app to be very useful in adding some punch and volume to my tracks. ----> Equalizer (by Smart Android Apps)
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Im talking about in call volume through the speaker that you hold up to your ear.

bob2300nx said:
Im talking about in call volume through the speaker that you hold up to your ear.
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Lol!! Oh. No not at all, that's way better than the last phone I had the lgg3.
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Check your phone call settings. There may be an option in there that was enabled by accident.
And/or tell your correspondence to speak up. Lol.

yeah idk, my s7 sounded like crap for phone calls. could never understand the person on the other line. but my V20 sounds amazing. clear, loud etc. kills the s7
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I'm experiencing the same. Extremely clear, no issues whatsoever.

Speaking of the Nexus 6. That phone was hands down the best Android phone ever made. If they re-released it with a fingerprint sensor, I would buy it again. Best speakers and sound of any phone. It could have used a better camera, but other than that, 9 out of 10.
As for the speaker sound in the V20. I think it could be a a bit louder. Clarity isn't an issue for me. But it's def not very loud.

On the T-Mobile variant this thing is loud and clear. If I turn it all the way up I can hold it away from my ear in front of me and still hear the other person clear enough to understand them. definitely no issues so far involving that

Lgv20user said:
Check your phone call settings. There may be an option in there that was enabled by accident.
And/or tell your correspondence to speak up. Lol.
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What settings are you talking about?
And people calling me didnt magically decide to speak quietly just because I bought a new phone.
Mikekelso421 said:
Speaking of the Nexus 6. That phone was hands down the best Android phone ever made. If they re-released it with a fingerprint sensor, I would buy it again. Best speakers and sound of any phone. It could have used a better camera, but other than that, 9 out of 10.
As for the speaker sound in the V20. I think it could be a a bit louder. Clarity isn't an issue for me. But it's def not very loud.
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Yes loudness is the issue. Its too quiet if you are anywhere with noise like the grocery store.
Nexus 6 was a good phone but had issues (guess all phones do). The camera was pretty bad and buggy at times. Speakers were great but if you had lower battery they would automatically decrease the volume like 50% (even at max volume) that was insanely annoying. And lastly it throttled speed pretty badly when battery got low. Oh and it was pretty big, alittle smaller screen with the v20 but much smaller in the hand.

bob2300nx said:
What settings are you talking about?
And people calling me didnt magically decide to speak quietly just because I bought a new phone.
Yes loudness is the issue. Its too quiet if you are anywhere with noise like the grocery store.
Nexus 6 was a good phone but had issues (guess all phones do). The camera was pretty bad and buggy at times. Speakers were great but if you had lower battery they would automatically decrease the volume like 50% (even at max volume) that was insanely annoying. And lastly it throttled speed pretty badly when battery got low. Oh and it was pretty big, alittle smaller screen with the v20 but much smaller in the hand.
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Pull up your phone app. Make sure it's on the dial menu and hit the 3 vertical dots in the upper right hand corner. Go to call settings. The last option should be one that reads "more" . Peruse that and see what may help. Good luck.

bob2300nx said:
What settings are you talking about?
And people calling me didnt magically decide to speak quietly just because I bought a new phone.
Yes loudness is the issue. Its too quiet if you are anywhere with noise like the grocery store.
Nexus 6 was a good phone but had issues (guess all phones do). The camera was pretty bad and buggy at times. Speakers were great but if you had lower battery they would automatically decrease the volume like 50% (even at max volume) that was insanely annoying. And lastly it throttled speed pretty badly when battery got low. Oh and it was pretty big, alittle smaller screen with the v20 but much smaller in the hand.
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Only thing I can think of would be to try turning on hearing aid compatibility or maybe messing with the call clarity and noise suppression options and see if that affects anything for ya.
I have both voice clarity and noise suppression turned on and have no problems with low volume at all. I remember reading somewhere on a different phone e that the hearing aid option made it noticeably louder on that specific phone so you could try that and see if it works for this phone.

bob2300nx said:
Maybe my nexus 6 was just that good but it feels like the v20's earpiece speaker isnt very clear or loud....I can live with lower quality but the sound level is kind of low (hard to hear people in noisy places)
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Am finding the same too, this time i have the voice clarity option enabled, lets see if it makes a difference. I find it soft in a quiet room, no idea how this will work out on the street. Might be forced to get a headset in that case.
Which would be a pity becaue this phone is all about audio. My speakers are perfectly fine. Why does the earpiece have to be so quiet

Something loose on the inside?

Helloooo everyone. I only have one question, want to confirm or debunk something with the wider group of people. I may be just over reacting but thats just the jewish part of me considering the rma or a refund, kidding, lol. Whenever I shake my phone by the ear I can hear a lil something being loose in the case of my g6. Do You also experience the same thing? Can it truly be the autofocus thingy, or something else?

I don't hear anything when I shake my phone. Is it your phone, or do you have your phone in a case? If so, have you tried removing and shaking both separately?
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Well, it happens with a firm shake, and the vibration inside is very delicate. Appreciate the feedback

It could be the OIS on the main camera. I don't hear a shaking but my hearing isn't that good either lol

It's the camera stability, it's perfectly normal. If you put your ear next the the camera and shake the phone quickly you should hear it. Also try it while the camera app is open and the stability is working, you shouldn't hear anything.

Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
DVC1985 said:
It's the camera stability, it's perfectly normal. If you put your ear next the the camera and shake the phone quickly you should hear it. Also try it while the camera app is open and the stability is working, you shouldn't hear anything.
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Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.

CaIJeT09 said:
Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.
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I can hear it and i think thats perfectly normal, probably for every phone. Don't really know what it is but i was always suspecting it was gyroscope or something like that. My LG G3 also had this same sound when shaking.

CaIJeT09 said:
Damn, I can hear it just the same with the camera app.
Is it because of them dual lenses? The sound does diminish depending on the lense Im using.
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It's OIS, or optical image stabilization.

Ok. Thank You all for help! I get real concerned really easy. I only bought my G6 a few days ago. If it wasnt for my 4yo daughter pushing the sim needle into the sound cancellation mic hole on top during my brief absence in the room right after I brought the thing home Id be completely chill rofl. )

Sorry to reply years later, but I just dropped my G6 and then tested it, and shook it hard, and noticed same rattling lol. I took my fiancé's iPhone that also has OIS etc, iPhone 6S that is, and although it sounds tinier, the rattle is still there.
The reason why some owners don't notice the rattle and some do, is because it solely depends on how hard they're shaking their phone AND the direction or way they're shaking it. That is all there is to it.
Your phone is awesome and not broken, at least when it comes to this. You might have a totally different phone by now lol!
Cheers!

Where's the ear piece

I just realized that there is no traditional earpiece on this phone, unless it is located above the camera. Does it use the same or similar tech as the Xiaomi Mi Mix?

This is why I am trying to wait for an actual real review of the phone before I buy. The quality of the earpiece speaker will determine if I get this phone or not. Calls are hard enough to understand as is, removing the speaker from being a real speaker shooting into your ear will probably make the quality much worse.

It's very hard to see in the few live pictures available, but the larger renders on their homepage show a narrow slit right at the top. Ars Technica also say there is an earpiece in there. So I do not think they are following the Mi Mix in that experiment.

neovalkyr said:
I just realized that there is no traditional earpiece on this phone, unless it is located above the camera. Does it use the same or similar tech as the Xiaomi Mi Mix?
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That small slit at the top has to be the earpiece speaker. The one in the pic of the Essential phone reminds me of the one on the Sony Z5 Premium Dual I have which works great.

Unbox therapy review shows it clearly. Great piece of hardware.
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Electrostatic noise coming from the back

Hello guys,
Tonight I noticed something. When I am using my OP5, like while reading XDA or writing this, I can hear some kind of electrostatic noise coming from the back of OP5. I believe that is related with the CPU and that this is normal.
However I would like to know if someone else noticed this.
You have to be in a quiet room.

Nope, never heard any noise coming from my phone

I think OP has a Pixel 2 :laugh:

I can hear it at the top back of the phone when I place my ear against the flash. Though I don't believe it's the cpu you hear maybe it comes from the little mic placed between the flash and camera?

I can barely hear that noise only if I put the back side of my phone directly on my ear but is very very low, in real life use even in a really quiet environment I can't hear it at all

dxxx1988 said:
yes same here but i think it should not be like this i think this is a defect
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Except it isn't

My phone don't make any noise at all