Rooting, SuperSU, Magisk vs Stock and Modded Kernels - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers

Hi guys,
I've searched but have not found a satisfying answer yet. Coming from Kitkat and Lollipop without the need for Magisk.
Why would one use SuperSU AND Magisk? I mean, sure Magisk is to achieve a "systemless" root, but would not the use of SuperSU give you by definition system-based root?
Also, does it matter which kernel you use?
Stock with SuperSU, need for Magisk?
Modded kernel (eg: SuperStock for Exynos), still need Magisk?
Does SE enforcing vs permissive have any bearing on the above?
Thanks guys.

So after some reading, it seems that with Google's November security update, systemless root is required, and hence Magisk must be installed.
Is this true for modded kernels as well?
Also, why would Xposed framework require Magisk? Isn't root, root? Systemless or not.

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Moto pure root question

Since the 7.0 Nougat update has finally been released and installed on my Pure, I'm itching to root it but stay with stock nougat.
My question is ... Do I use the same method developed for 6.0 mm root? Specifically this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/help/rooting-stock-xt1575-marshmallow-6-0-t3353812
Thanks for your help?
No use Magisk. https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445 its prebuilt systemless. And will pass safety net. Unless you go xposed where it will fail. I would stay on version 14.0.
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Can I still root Nougat with

just SuperSu and without using Magisk will that cause any problems I have android version 7.1.2?
There is no STOCK 7.1.2 for this device... only 7.0, and if you look there are multiple references to people rooting Nougat with both SuperSU or Magisk, although in general Magisk is recommended.
If you are talking custom ROM, I would suggest asking in that ROMs thread for the preferred root method if it is not stated in the first post.

xposed issue on samsung s8+ G955FD android 7.0

i am using S8+ G955FD, i am on android 7.0, fed up with slow UI and bloatwares so i decided to root, i did it with magisk, magisk v16.0 is installed and phone is rooted very well, but now i want to install xposed frameworks as well, but it always goes to bootloop when i flash xposed, i am on stock rom, is this issue, if yes then which custom rom will be best for this phone to use with magisk and xposed working well ?
hoping to get quick response....
Go here https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268 use sdk 24 for version 7.0

Custom Nougat ROM that is based off stock but doesn't break banking apps?

I've been using ambasadii's Nougat 7 ROM for a while as it enables WiFi calling and doesn't break banking apps if you don't root. Are there are newer ROMS that offer the same functionality (happy to drop wifi calling)
As far as I can tell alot of custom S7 builds change the base kernel / Nougat base which causes Barclays not to work, ambrassidi`s seems to stick to the base.
Thanks for all your help.
Erandel said:
I've been using ambasadii's Nougat 7 ROM for a while as it enables WiFi calling and doesn't break banking apps if you don't root. Are there are newer ROMS that offer the same functionality (happy to drop wifi calling)
As far as I can tell alot of custom S7 builds change the base kernel / Nougat base which causes Barclays not to work, ambrassidi`s seems to stick to the base.
Thanks for all your help.
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I don't think that it depends what custom rom you have, it's more about what root method you use (Magisk or SuperSU) and that you pass SafetyNet. You can just use Magisk and select your banking apps in Magisk Hide. Be sure to disable Systemless Xposed in Magisk if you use it because it breaks SafetyNet. Reboot your device and check if you pass SafetyNet in Magisk. Your banking apps should be working then.

A few questions about upgrading to Pie

Hi all,
I am currently on oxygen os 5.1.7, rooted with magisk and systemless xposed. I use xposed for xinsta. i have some questions.
what twrp do i need to use to upgrade to pie?
do i have to uninstall systemless xposed before upgrading to pie?
how can i install the special version of xposed for android pie?
what if i do not like android pie, can i revert to oreo with my nandroid backup and if so how?
if i can then do i have to wipe os and downgrade twrp?
Thanks
Pro4TLZZ said:
Hi all,
I am currently on oxygen os 5.1.7, rooted with magisk and systemless xposed. I use xposed for xinsta. i have some questions.
what twrp do i need to use to upgrade to pie?
do i have to uninstall systemless xposed before upgrading to pie?
how can i install the special version of xposed for android pie?
what if i do not like android pie, can i revert to oreo with my nandroid backup and if so how?
if i can then do i have to wipe os and downgrade twrp?
Thanks
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You need your current Oreo compatible recovery to update to pie or the one from siankatabg's from here including update instructions https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/official-oxygenos-4-5-2-7-1-1-ota-t3627003
You also have to uninstall xposed. It's highly recommended to not run into issues.
So take a nandroid backup just in case you want to revert and for downgrade it's also necessary to make sure that your twrp is Oreo compatible. Actual pie recoveries need pie firmware.
Wiping os to downgrade isn't necessary, but it needs to be without xposed or other modifications.
For exposed for Pie have a look at here https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/xposed-android-pie-modules-test-t3894500

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