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Will there be a rooted ota for people who didn't install it or never got it. I rooted my phone and would like the better radio in hopes I will get more cell bars
There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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Sv3nt3k said:
There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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i dont understand what u mean i have perm root without the ota. If i install the ota it will break root. Will i have to go thru the whole process again if i do this? I know on the mytouchslide when they came out with an ota they just rooted it so it wouldnt break the current root
i havent tried perm root yet. however search this site for 'visionary' root, which is all u really need for now. i had visionary root installed along with several root only apps (titanium backup, cachemate, setcpu, several others) and the OTA installed while my phone was rooted with absolutely no problems.
I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this
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the "#" denotes root access lol...... (coming from a marginal linux background..)
richierich118 said:
I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this
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Have you tried reapplying s-off?
I am also interested in getting a solution because right before I rooted my phone I started getting ota update notifications for my phone and now I cant upgrade my phone but the notifications continue to persist. So I figure if I can get a rooted update or delete something, I can get rid of notifications.
ok i got it working what i did was do what somesaid in the begining and that was to follow the guide that doesnt use visionary for perm root. I think its call temp to perm root. I always had the s-off just not the perm root. everything is fine now
At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.
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At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.
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I didnt use clockworks recover i used the orginal. It just made me loose root and not s-off so i used the temp-too-perm root to get it back because visionary was saying my phone was already rooted. I believe I was getting this cause i had rooted without the ota the first time. The second time i used the ota.ko Instead of the preota.ko because i used this when i didnt update to the ota on the first run.
Oh, okay. Thanks for that. I'm currently in the same boat you were in. I applied the OTA and it's reporting S-OFF, Visionary is saying I'm rooted, but certain things aren't working.
In the process of getting it fixed.
EDIT: Went through the same process you did and I'm all good to go. I was able to apply the OTA update after rooting it and then re-rooted it.
so how exactly did you root you perma root your phone again after ota.
i have perma root right now, its pre-ota, i do want to install ota though.. would i have to go back and do the manual perma-root with the "ota" files now instead of the other ones. im just confused and want to clear this up before i do anything stupid. thanks!
hi. i updated my phone to 2.3.4 (sys 4.5.91 us) and i cannot get my root back. im pretty new to root but i do not want anything but root. not unlock, not new rom, not anything except root.
i had the latest version of Android and used Gingerbreak and i was extremely happy as it was so easy for me to do. i had root and that's all i wanted. but now... i updated to 2.3.4 and i did not unroot before this (maybe this is my problem) but my phone is fine, everything runs great. but i cannot root it. i used this walk-through http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/motorola-atrix-hacks/4414-how-root-motorola-atrix-all-versions-including-stock-locked-2-3-4-a.html and finished it all. everything went through and i still don't have root.
i have done it 3 times now and successfully competed the steps. i still have no root. can someone direct me or walk me through another way of rooting or by chance giving me advice on what to do so i can get root? im not a scientist and i know it doesn't take one...but all i know is i just cant get my phone rooted and want it rooted badly.
someone please help me. i searched all over the forums and keep finding the steps i followed and then also found unlock steps(something i do not want to do)
all i want is root. please keep that in mind.
Hammernok said:
hi. i updated my phone to 2.3.4 (sys 4.5.91 us) and i cannot get my root back. im pretty new to root but i do not want anything but root. not unlock, not new rom, not anything except root.
i had the latest version of Android and used Gingerbreak and i was extremely happy as it was so easy for me to do. i had root and that's all i wanted. but now... i updated to 2.3.4 and i did not unroot before this (maybe this is my problem) but my phone is fine, everything runs great. but i cannot root it. i used this walk-through http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/motorola-atrix-hacks/4414-how-root-motorola-atrix-all-versions-including-stock-locked-2-3-4-a.html and finished it all. everything went through and i still don't have root.
i have done it 3 times now and successfully competed the steps. i still have no root. can someone direct me or walk me through another way of rooting or by chance giving me advice on what to do so i can get root? im not a scientist and i know it doesn't take one...but all i know is i just cant get my phone rooted and want it rooted badly.
someone please help me. i searched all over the forums and keep finding the steps i followed and then also found unlock steps(something i do not want to do)
all i want is root. please keep that in mind.
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I used this method on my OTA gingerbread.
At first, it gave me errors and pretty much wouldn't work past command line, but in reality, Superuser was installed and I was able to launch it.
Do you have Superuser in your app drawer?
yes i do have super user. and i am able to launch it. but it does not unlock anything.
i got no errors. i did everything correctly and still i dont have root access. maybe im missing something?? i try to run Titanium backup and it said no root access. said the same thing with Root explorer.
superuser runs... but it doesnt have anything unlocked. i try to update superuser and it wont let me.
silentecho13 said:
I used this method on my OTA gingerbread.
At first, it gave me errors and pretty much wouldn't work past command line, but in reality, Superuser was installed and I was able to launch it.
Do you have Superuser in your app drawer?
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Hammernok said:
yes i do have super user. and i am able to launch it. but it does not unlock anything.
i got no errors. i did everything correctly and still i dont have root access. maybe im missing something?? i try to run Titanium backup and it said no root access. said the same thing with Root explorer.
superuser runs... but it doesnt have anything unlocked. i try to update superuser and it wont let me.
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hmm, you can try going to manage apps and clearing superuser's data, and then maybe attempt the process again.
I had to clear data to get superuser to do anything at all when I rooted.
i read that before i attempted it the third time. i cleared data then completed the steps and still... my superuser runs but apparently i do not have root access.
superuser does not ask if i want to allow for root access for any programs like TB or Root Explorer as it should.
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hmm, you can try going to manage apps and clearing superuser's data, and then maybe attempt the process again.
I had to clear data to get superuser to do anything at all when I rooted.
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and i meant that i had read about that before attempting the entire process for the third time. i read on another post that someone had it installed already and had to clear the data so... i did that before my third attempt.
still no root!
Hammernok said:
and i meant that i had read about that before attempting the entire process for the third time. i read on another post that someone had it installed already and had to clear the data so... i did that before my third attempt.
still no root!
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Check this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204
Are the root methods too complicated/risky for you? This is a simple solution.
Start with: original droid maxx software (12.7.7 i believe) on Verizon
1. Install motoroot 1.0 (JCase's first root method from original development section), run it, and click root (that's click #1). Make sure everything's working, reboot a few times, use rootchecker to make sure you've got root. (note you won't have write protection off and there'll be a 10-15 sec delay after booting up before you have root). But hey, it's 1 click.
2. Take 1st Verizon OTA to the 4.2.2 with camera update (12.15.15 i believe). Root should survive. Check that it did with root checker.
3. Install the write protection no more from the moto x original development section on your computer. download android-sdk and make sure adb is working, make sure fastboot is working. connect your phone to your computer and run the "write protectoin no more" app on your computer (that's click #2).
That's it. Now I have write protection permanently off, and I have root. I didn't have to use cydia impactor and mess with a tricky update to 4.4 which if it doesn't work I couldn't go back to a rooted phone. I never had to fxz anything or restore anything to stock, or lose any of my data. I didn't have to pay a dime or give someone on ebay all my phone info.
Sure I'd like to have 4.4, but pretty happy with where I am and how easily I got here. And I've read a lot of people say "the root methods are too complicated" --- well this is pretty easy cause you're just using 2 packaged apps.
I've gotten a lot from this forum, and just thought I'd share. Please don't flame. I feel like this is the best compromise of features:effort for me.
It was really easy to put an unlock code into adb.
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Piaband said:
It was really easy to put an unlock code into adb.
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if i could unlock it when i had gotten it in august, sure. but it's too much effort to start over at this point. i have everything set up perfectly. never had to start over. also didn't want to pay for it and send my info to some stranger on the internet. anyway, moot point. good for you, but that option's not available for most people.
So does this work when your already updated to 4.4?
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No nothing roots 4.4 at this point.
vegasdgk said:
So does this work when your already updated to 4.4?
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No he basically just rewrote the instructions of how to root the original firmware.
akellar said:
No he basically just rewrote the instructions of how to root the original firmware.
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I didn't rewrite it. No where are there instructions for getting root AND write protection off on the 4.2.2 camera update without 1 using command line commands AND 2 that network based program (called Cydia compactor I think). There's none of those complications here. Most people don't even realize 1 click root survives the camera update.
But you are right as to kit kat. I thought my title was clear that this is for jellybean though.
mistermojorizin said:
Are the root methods too complicated/risky for you? This is a simple solution.
Start with: original droid maxx software (12.7.7 i believe) on Verizon
1. Install motoroot 1.0 (JCase's first root method from original development section), run it, and click root (that's click #1). Make sure everything's working, reboot a few times, use rootchecker to make sure you've got root. (note you won't have write protection off and there'll be a 10-15 sec delay after booting up before you have root). But hey, it's 1 click.
2. Take 1st Verizon OTA to the 4.2.2 with camera update (12.15.15 i believe). Root should survive. Check that it did with root checker.
3. Install the write protection no more from the moto x original development section on your computer. download android-sdk and make sure adb is working, make sure fastboot is working. connect your phone to your computer and run the "write protectoin no more" app on your computer (that's click #2).
That's it. Now I have write protection permanently off, and I have root. I didn't have to use cydia impactor and mess with a tricky update to 4.4 which if it doesn't work I couldn't go back to a rooted phone. I never had to fxz anything or restore anything to stock, or lose any of my data. I didn't have to pay a dime or give someone on ebay all my phone info.
Sure I'd like to have 4.4, but pretty happy with where I am and how easily I got here. And I've read a lot of people say "the root methods are too complicated" --- well this is pretty easy cause you're just using 2 packaged apps.
I've gotten a lot from this forum, and just thought I'd share. Please don't flame. I feel like this is the best compromise of features:effort for me.
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Hello,
I have rooted my phone when i am in 12.7.7, then i took the OTA update 12.15.15, now my device is in a boot loop, it boots normally and after a few seconds it will reboot and it goes over and over again.
any thoughts on this and should I use RSDLite to flash it to either 12.7.7 / 12.15.15???
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Hello,
I have rooted my phone when i am in 12.7.7, then i took the OTA update 12.15.15, now my device is in a boot loop, it boots normally and after a few seconds it will reboot and it goes over and over again.
any thoughts on this and should I use RSDLite to flash it to either 12.7.7 / 12.15.15???
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which method did you use to root it? what system stuff did you change after rooting it?
a lot of people had bootloops after taking an OTA because they did the root method that had replaced their stock recovery with a write protect off mode. so in effect, they were having bootloops because they didn't have the recovery, not because they had root. it their case, there was an easy solution of just flashing a recovery. unfortunately i don't know the details of how to do that off the top of my head.'
in any case, rsd'ing to either of those software versions will likely fix all problems.
i rooted as i described with motoroot 1.0, which didn't affect my recovery and was easy to OTA without problems.
good luck
mistermojorizin said:
which method did you use to root it? what system stuff did you change after rooting it?
a lot of people had bootloops after taking an OTA because they did the root method that had replaced their stock recovery with a write protect off mode. so in effect, they were having bootloops because they didn't have the recovery, not because they had root. it their case, there was an easy solution of just flashing a recovery. unfortunately i don't know the details of how to do that off the top of my head.'
in any case, rsd'ing to either of those software versions will likely fix all problems.
i rooted as i described with motoroot 1.0, which didn't affect my recovery and was easy to OTA without problems.
good luck
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Thanks for the quick reply,
I used the PwnMyMoto here to root, i forgot that this method will replace / remove the stock recovery.
With a minute of panic and some google search, I'd managed to use RSD lite to flash the 12.15.15 FXZ and now my phone is back in business but kinda lost root.
Right now I am looking into the RockMyMoto method here and see if it can help me to gain root.
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Thanks for the quick reply,
I used the PwnMyMoto here to root, i forgot that this method will replace / remove the stock recovery.
With a minute of panic and some google search, I'd managed to use RSD lite to flash the 12.15.15 FXZ and now my phone is back in business but kinda lost root.
Right now I am looking into the RockMyMoto method here and see if it can help me to gain root.
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glad you got your phone back in order, might want to check out slapmymoto (which is the path to rooted kit kat and involves running rockmymoto on the way) while you're at it
mistermojorizin said:
glad you got your phone back in order, might want to check out slapmymoto (which is the path to rooted kit kat and involves running rockmymoto on the way) while you're at it
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Not sure about the battery life on kitkat of the MAXX right now, so i will stick with 4.2.2 first and do a little research.
Anyway, thanks for the reply and I've gained root on 4.2.2 (12.15.15) using RockMyMoto:laugh:
I am rooted on this new OTA 4.4.2. I stayed rooted in survival mode. Question is can I flash any NC4 based roms through the new safestrap, or am I just stuck here rooted.
dedemike0421 said:
I am rooted on this new OTA 4.4.2. I stayed rooted in survival mode. Question is can I flash any NC4 based roms through the new safestrap, or am I just stuck here rooted.
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Are you still rooted or are your root apps with prior permissions still using their old grant? Try a new root app see if your able to grant a new permission.
rooted
Thepooch said:
Are you still rooted or are your root apps with prior permissions still using their old grant? Try a new root app see if your able to grant a new permission.
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Yeah I just ran root checker, plus I use xposed app
dedemike0421 said:
Yeah I just ran root checker, plus I use xposed app
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Yes. Im sure you can use the kk version of ss and flash roms. Your issue is this is your only shot at having root. Meaning if you soft brick in some manner and you are forced to use odin to recover you will lose root with no way to retain it or regain it. If you dont need root to take advantage of tethering on a unlimited plan then maybe its not a issue for you. But if u need root to be happy with your device I would stay stock and just disable otas til your ready to try survival mode again if ever needed.
Edit. At least until a new root exploit is found if ever anyways.
still rooted
RomsWell said:
Yes. Im sure you can use the kk version of ss and flash roms. Your issue is this is your only shot at having root. Meaning if you soft brick in some manner and you are forced to use odin to recover you will lose root with no way to retain it or regain it. If you dont need root to take advantage of tethering on a unlimited plan then maybe its not a issue for you. But if u need root to be happy with your device I would stay stock and just disable otas til your ready to try survival mode again if ever needed.
Edit. At least until a new root exploit is found if ever anyways.
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Lol, I kinda figured that I have been searching for that answer over a week now, just needed a little confirmation. Thanks alot im on the fence about trying it. The reason I took this update in the 1st place my phone random reboots after I 1st took the leaked NC2 build.
RomsWell said:
Yes. Im sure you can use the kk version of ss and flash roms. Your issue is this is your only shot at having root. Meaning if you soft brick in some manner and you are forced to use odin to recover you will lose root with no way to retain it or regain it. If you dont need root to take advantage of tethering on a unlimited plan then maybe its not a issue for you. But if u need root to be happy with your device I would stay stock and just disable otas til your ready to try survival mode again if ever needed.
Edit. At least until a new root exploit is found if ever anyways.
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no ss
RomsWell said:
Yes. Im sure you can use the kk version of ss and flash roms. Your issue is this is your only shot at having root. Meaning if you soft brick in some manner and you are forced to use odin to recover you will lose root with no way to retain it or regain it. If you dont need root to take advantage of tethering on a unlimited plan then maybe its not a issue for you. But if u need root to be happy with your device I would stay stock and just disable otas til your ready to try survival mode again if ever needed.
Edit. At least until a new root exploit is found if ever anyways.
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No , safe strape installed and got root permissions but would not boot into ss recovery. Thanks again anyway
I want to root my 6p because I want to enable miracast streaming to my TV. I know theres a line or so I need to add to the bottom in order for that to work.
My question is this: If i root is there some kind of other upkeep I would need to do to make sure my phone works and gets updated as normal while it's rooted? I'm not a tinkerer when it comes to this, I just saw I could achieve miracast if I went with this method, so figured it was worth it to find out what Id be getting myself into if I rooted the phone.
you cannot update your phone OTA while rooted.
so if you're not a tinkerer, you need to learn to be if you root.
TheNamelessMan said:
I want to root my 6p because I want to enable miracast streaming to my TV. I know theres a line or so I need to add to the bottom in order for that to work.
My question is this: If i root is there some kind of other upkeep I would need to do to make sure my phone works and gets updated as normal while it's rooted? I'm not a tinkerer when it comes to this, I just saw I could achieve miracast if I went with this method, so figured it was worth it to find out what Id be getting myself into if I rooted the phone.
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I read someone was able to get around it by unchecking OEM unlock in dev settings and doing the update then re enabling it after update. I assume they also had systemless root and lost that during the update. But I have not tried this myself.
Gizmoe said:
I read someone was able to get around it by unchecking OEM unlock in dev settings and doing the update then re enabling it after update. I assume they also had systemless root and lost that during the update. But I have not tried this myself.
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This is not true, once you root your phone, you will be unable to accept OTA update unless you revert back to stock, ie;
Stock Recovery
Stock Boot
Stock System
If you are at all uncomfortable attempting I suggest you do not root.
dratsablive said:
If you are at all uncomfortable attempting I suggest you do not root.
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I'm completely comfortable rooting. Not sure where you're getting that. I was just sharing something I read.
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Here is a link to what I read. It wouldn't be hard to remove root and flash stock recovery if you wanted to upgrade. As long as you are still stock obviously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64974439
Gizmoe said:
I read someone was able to get around it by unchecking OEM unlock in dev settings and doing the update then re enabling it after update. I assume they also had systemless root and lost that during the update. But I have not tried this myself.
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No.
To root you need to use a custom recovery, TWRP.
As long as you have TWRP installed no OTA.
Just download and flash the updates.
tech_head said:
No.
To root you need to use a custom recovery, TWRP.
As long as you have TWRP installed no OTA.
Just download and flash the updates.
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