I am rooted on this new OTA 4.4.2. I stayed rooted in survival mode. Question is can I flash any NC4 based roms through the new safestrap, or am I just stuck here rooted.
dedemike0421 said:
I am rooted on this new OTA 4.4.2. I stayed rooted in survival mode. Question is can I flash any NC4 based roms through the new safestrap, or am I just stuck here rooted.
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Are you still rooted or are your root apps with prior permissions still using their old grant? Try a new root app see if your able to grant a new permission.
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Are you still rooted or are your root apps with prior permissions still using their old grant? Try a new root app see if your able to grant a new permission.
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Yeah I just ran root checker, plus I use xposed app
dedemike0421 said:
Yeah I just ran root checker, plus I use xposed app
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Yes. Im sure you can use the kk version of ss and flash roms. Your issue is this is your only shot at having root. Meaning if you soft brick in some manner and you are forced to use odin to recover you will lose root with no way to retain it or regain it. If you dont need root to take advantage of tethering on a unlimited plan then maybe its not a issue for you. But if u need root to be happy with your device I would stay stock and just disable otas til your ready to try survival mode again if ever needed.
Edit. At least until a new root exploit is found if ever anyways.
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RomsWell said:
Yes. Im sure you can use the kk version of ss and flash roms. Your issue is this is your only shot at having root. Meaning if you soft brick in some manner and you are forced to use odin to recover you will lose root with no way to retain it or regain it. If you dont need root to take advantage of tethering on a unlimited plan then maybe its not a issue for you. But if u need root to be happy with your device I would stay stock and just disable otas til your ready to try survival mode again if ever needed.
Edit. At least until a new root exploit is found if ever anyways.
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Lol, I kinda figured that I have been searching for that answer over a week now, just needed a little confirmation. Thanks alot im on the fence about trying it. The reason I took this update in the 1st place my phone random reboots after I 1st took the leaked NC2 build.
RomsWell said:
Yes. Im sure you can use the kk version of ss and flash roms. Your issue is this is your only shot at having root. Meaning if you soft brick in some manner and you are forced to use odin to recover you will lose root with no way to retain it or regain it. If you dont need root to take advantage of tethering on a unlimited plan then maybe its not a issue for you. But if u need root to be happy with your device I would stay stock and just disable otas til your ready to try survival mode again if ever needed.
Edit. At least until a new root exploit is found if ever anyways.
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no ss
RomsWell said:
Yes. Im sure you can use the kk version of ss and flash roms. Your issue is this is your only shot at having root. Meaning if you soft brick in some manner and you are forced to use odin to recover you will lose root with no way to retain it or regain it. If you dont need root to take advantage of tethering on a unlimited plan then maybe its not a issue for you. But if u need root to be happy with your device I would stay stock and just disable otas til your ready to try survival mode again if ever needed.
Edit. At least until a new root exploit is found if ever anyways.
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No , safe strape installed and got root permissions but would not boot into ss recovery. Thanks again anyway
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I have been searching both here and other forums looking for guidance on this issue. I have MF3 rooted and i would like to upgrade to 4.3. When i rooted i got a little delete happy and bkew out a lot of packages instead of freezing them as i should (i didnt have Titanium Pro, i do now) . I honestly can't remember everything i blew out but i know my phone runs a lot better without them. My issue is the OTA fails when i try to install it and with all of the issues ive read about MF3 I dont know how i should proceed. Do i need to flash back to stick MF3 with Odin? Can i factory reset, root, update and hope survival mode works?
I know this makes me look like a complete toolbag but hey, i screwed up and need a little help.
Thank you
Nizzoball said:
I have been searching both here and other forums looking for guidance on this issue. I have MF3 rooted and i would like to upgrade to 4.3. When i rooted i got a little delete happy and bkew out a lot of packages instead of freezing them as i should (i didnt have Titanium Pro, i do now) . I honestly can't remember everything i blew out but i know my phone runs a lot better without them. My issue is the OTA fails when i try to install it and with all of the issues ive read about MF3 I dont know how i should proceed. Do i need to flash back to stick MF3 with Odin? Can i factory reset, root, update and hope survival mode works?
I know this makes me look like a complete toolbag but hey, i screwed up and need a little help.
Thank you
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Use the ODIN MF3 files....ODIN your phone back to stock. This is what I did. I also rooted MF3 via SDCard method....restored my phone to how i want it. Used Supersu to do full unroot, then go to OTA update and wait 5+ hours to download the 727 mb file from the horrible AT&T servers, then install update.
Instead of "unrooting" you can try survival mode which has been said to keep root for some, but not for others.
Good luck!
Tremulant1 said:
Use the ODIN MF3 files....ODIN your phone back to stock. This is what I did. I also rooted MF3 via SDCard method....restored my phone to how i want it. Used Supersu to do full unroot, then go to OTA update and wait 5+ hours to download the 727 mb file from the horrible AT&T servers, then install update.
Instead of "unrooting" you can try survival mode which has been said to keep root for some, but not for others.
Good luck!
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Thank you. Thats the method i was looking into but i was hoping there was an easier way. I've never used odin on any of my phones but i'll give it a shot. I appreciate your feedback.
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Nizzoball said:
I have been searching both here and other forums looking for guidance on this issue. I have MF3 rooted and i would like to upgrade to 4.3. When i rooted i got a little delete happy and bkew out a lot of packages instead of freezing them as i should (i didnt have Titanium Pro, i do now) . I honestly can't remember everything i blew out but i know my phone runs a lot better without them. My issue is the OTA fails when i try to install it and with all of the issues ive read about MF3 I dont know how i should proceed. Do i need to flash back to stick MF3 with Odin? Can i factory reset, root, update and hope survival mode works?
I know this makes me look like a complete toolbag but hey, i screwed up and need a little help.
Thank you
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I was also stock rooted with MF3 and i used SuperSU survival mode to keep root after the update ... but i wasn't getting the OTA so I did a sideload of the update.
Questions and Help issues go in Q&A and Help section
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JCrawMil said:
I was also stock rooted with MF3 and i used SuperSU survival mode to keep root after the update ... but i wasn't getting the OTA so I did a sideload of the update.
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How did you sideload? Ext. SD Card or ADB.
bigube said:
How did you sideload? Ext. SD Card or ADB.
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ADB sideload pushes the package from your laptop to your phone.
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How did you sideload? Ext. SD Card or ADB.
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I did an ADB sideload
Are the root methods too complicated/risky for you? This is a simple solution.
Start with: original droid maxx software (12.7.7 i believe) on Verizon
1. Install motoroot 1.0 (JCase's first root method from original development section), run it, and click root (that's click #1). Make sure everything's working, reboot a few times, use rootchecker to make sure you've got root. (note you won't have write protection off and there'll be a 10-15 sec delay after booting up before you have root). But hey, it's 1 click.
2. Take 1st Verizon OTA to the 4.2.2 with camera update (12.15.15 i believe). Root should survive. Check that it did with root checker.
3. Install the write protection no more from the moto x original development section on your computer. download android-sdk and make sure adb is working, make sure fastboot is working. connect your phone to your computer and run the "write protectoin no more" app on your computer (that's click #2).
That's it. Now I have write protection permanently off, and I have root. I didn't have to use cydia impactor and mess with a tricky update to 4.4 which if it doesn't work I couldn't go back to a rooted phone. I never had to fxz anything or restore anything to stock, or lose any of my data. I didn't have to pay a dime or give someone on ebay all my phone info.
Sure I'd like to have 4.4, but pretty happy with where I am and how easily I got here. And I've read a lot of people say "the root methods are too complicated" --- well this is pretty easy cause you're just using 2 packaged apps.
I've gotten a lot from this forum, and just thought I'd share. Please don't flame. I feel like this is the best compromise of features:effort for me.
It was really easy to put an unlock code into adb.
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Piaband said:
It was really easy to put an unlock code into adb.
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if i could unlock it when i had gotten it in august, sure. but it's too much effort to start over at this point. i have everything set up perfectly. never had to start over. also didn't want to pay for it and send my info to some stranger on the internet. anyway, moot point. good for you, but that option's not available for most people.
So does this work when your already updated to 4.4?
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No nothing roots 4.4 at this point.
vegasdgk said:
So does this work when your already updated to 4.4?
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No he basically just rewrote the instructions of how to root the original firmware.
akellar said:
No he basically just rewrote the instructions of how to root the original firmware.
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I didn't rewrite it. No where are there instructions for getting root AND write protection off on the 4.2.2 camera update without 1 using command line commands AND 2 that network based program (called Cydia compactor I think). There's none of those complications here. Most people don't even realize 1 click root survives the camera update.
But you are right as to kit kat. I thought my title was clear that this is for jellybean though.
mistermojorizin said:
Are the root methods too complicated/risky for you? This is a simple solution.
Start with: original droid maxx software (12.7.7 i believe) on Verizon
1. Install motoroot 1.0 (JCase's first root method from original development section), run it, and click root (that's click #1). Make sure everything's working, reboot a few times, use rootchecker to make sure you've got root. (note you won't have write protection off and there'll be a 10-15 sec delay after booting up before you have root). But hey, it's 1 click.
2. Take 1st Verizon OTA to the 4.2.2 with camera update (12.15.15 i believe). Root should survive. Check that it did with root checker.
3. Install the write protection no more from the moto x original development section on your computer. download android-sdk and make sure adb is working, make sure fastboot is working. connect your phone to your computer and run the "write protectoin no more" app on your computer (that's click #2).
That's it. Now I have write protection permanently off, and I have root. I didn't have to use cydia impactor and mess with a tricky update to 4.4 which if it doesn't work I couldn't go back to a rooted phone. I never had to fxz anything or restore anything to stock, or lose any of my data. I didn't have to pay a dime or give someone on ebay all my phone info.
Sure I'd like to have 4.4, but pretty happy with where I am and how easily I got here. And I've read a lot of people say "the root methods are too complicated" --- well this is pretty easy cause you're just using 2 packaged apps.
I've gotten a lot from this forum, and just thought I'd share. Please don't flame. I feel like this is the best compromise of features:effort for me.
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Hello,
I have rooted my phone when i am in 12.7.7, then i took the OTA update 12.15.15, now my device is in a boot loop, it boots normally and after a few seconds it will reboot and it goes over and over again.
any thoughts on this and should I use RSDLite to flash it to either 12.7.7 / 12.15.15???
-Zeta- said:
Hello,
I have rooted my phone when i am in 12.7.7, then i took the OTA update 12.15.15, now my device is in a boot loop, it boots normally and after a few seconds it will reboot and it goes over and over again.
any thoughts on this and should I use RSDLite to flash it to either 12.7.7 / 12.15.15???
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which method did you use to root it? what system stuff did you change after rooting it?
a lot of people had bootloops after taking an OTA because they did the root method that had replaced their stock recovery with a write protect off mode. so in effect, they were having bootloops because they didn't have the recovery, not because they had root. it their case, there was an easy solution of just flashing a recovery. unfortunately i don't know the details of how to do that off the top of my head.'
in any case, rsd'ing to either of those software versions will likely fix all problems.
i rooted as i described with motoroot 1.0, which didn't affect my recovery and was easy to OTA without problems.
good luck
mistermojorizin said:
which method did you use to root it? what system stuff did you change after rooting it?
a lot of people had bootloops after taking an OTA because they did the root method that had replaced their stock recovery with a write protect off mode. so in effect, they were having bootloops because they didn't have the recovery, not because they had root. it their case, there was an easy solution of just flashing a recovery. unfortunately i don't know the details of how to do that off the top of my head.'
in any case, rsd'ing to either of those software versions will likely fix all problems.
i rooted as i described with motoroot 1.0, which didn't affect my recovery and was easy to OTA without problems.
good luck
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Thanks for the quick reply,
I used the PwnMyMoto here to root, i forgot that this method will replace / remove the stock recovery.
With a minute of panic and some google search, I'd managed to use RSD lite to flash the 12.15.15 FXZ and now my phone is back in business but kinda lost root.
Right now I am looking into the RockMyMoto method here and see if it can help me to gain root.
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Thanks for the quick reply,
I used the PwnMyMoto here to root, i forgot that this method will replace / remove the stock recovery.
With a minute of panic and some google search, I'd managed to use RSD lite to flash the 12.15.15 FXZ and now my phone is back in business but kinda lost root.
Right now I am looking into the RockMyMoto method here and see if it can help me to gain root.
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glad you got your phone back in order, might want to check out slapmymoto (which is the path to rooted kit kat and involves running rockmymoto on the way) while you're at it
mistermojorizin said:
glad you got your phone back in order, might want to check out slapmymoto (which is the path to rooted kit kat and involves running rockmymoto on the way) while you're at it
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Not sure about the battery life on kitkat of the MAXX right now, so i will stick with 4.2.2 first and do a little research.
Anyway, thanks for the reply and I've gained root on 4.2.2 (12.15.15) using RockMyMoto:laugh:
So I am trying to reset my Verizon Galaxy S5 to BS_FREE_Lolipop but I messed up and now my phone won't boot up, it says Software Update failed... So what I did was download the files he provided and tried to load https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347776876 and it didn't work and I am where I am now. I just want to get root access to be able to install BS_FREE_Lollipop on my phone someone please help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784 go there and downgrade to NCG then reroot
Veid71 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784 go there and downgrade to NCG then reroot
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Thanks I'll try that I hope it works
Griingo said:
Thanks I'll try that I hope it works
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np lemmi know how it goes and if it helps
Veid71 said:
np lemmi know how it goes and if it helps
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Okay so I just around to looking at that thread but that won't work, my phone is bricked right now I can't turn it on without it saying I need to repair it I can only put the phone in download mode :/
Griingo said:
Okay so I just around to looking at that thread but that won't work, my phone is bricked right now I can't turn it on without it saying I need to repair it I can only put the phone in download mode :/
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yup thats what you do you put it into download mode flash Full Wipe G900V_Downgrade_to_NCG.tar (its located on step 4 in the notes section) using odin on your computer (you connect your phone to computer) then you redownload towelroot super su busy box and safestrap and youre rooted then you can choose to upgrade to whatever version or thing you want in your case bsfreelollipop
Griingo said:
So I am trying to reset my Verizon Galaxy S5 to BS_FREE_Lolipop but I messed up and now my phone won't boot up, it says Software Update failed... So what I did was download the files he provided and tried to load https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347776876 and it didn't work and I am where I am now. I just want to get root access to be able to install BS_FREE_Lollipop on my phone someone please help
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You wrote you want to reset your phone to the BS free ROM, but then at the end you write you want to get root access. What state was your phone in when you started to try this? Was your phone already rooted? Was your phone already rooted and on BS free ROM and just needed to clean up your phone and get back onto the BS free ROM? If you were not already rooted and had taken the Verizon OTA updates to Lollipop, chances are good you cannot root your phone, and therefore you cannot run the BS Free ROM. Let us know what state your phone was in when you started this so we can help you better.
Griingo said:
So I am trying to reset my Verizon Galaxy S5 to BS_FREE_Lolipop but I messed up and now my phone won't boot up, it says Software Update failed... So what I did was download the files he provided and tried to load https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347776876 and it didn't work and I am where I am now. I just want to get root access to be able to install BS_FREE_Lollipop on my phone someone please help
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What software version you're on and did you have root before you tried to reset to Verizon Galaxy S5 to BS_FREE_Lolipop??
To reply to everyone the only thing I ever did with the phone was update to 5.0 If I can't get root no big deal but I really want to install something that gets rid of all the Verizon junk apps :/
Griingo said:
To reply to everyone the only thing I ever did with the phone was update to 5.0 If I can't get root no big deal but I really want to install something that gets rid of all the Verizon junk apps :/
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If you never rooted your phone and you took all of the Verizon OTA updates to 5.0 you are most likely on OG5 and cannot root your phone. If you took an OTA update in the past few days before trying this, you may have been on the latest OK3 security patch update. Your best bet would probably be to find the OG5 full factory tar file and flash it in ODIN to get your phone back to a working state. I think there is a thread in the general section where you can find the file you need.
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If you never rooted your phone and you took all of the Verizon OTA updates to 5.0 you are most likely on OG5 and cannot root your phone. If you took an OTA update in the past few days before trying this, you may have been on the latest OK3 security patch update. Your best bet would probably be to find the OG5 full factory tar file and flash it in ODIN to get your phone back to a working state. I think there is a thread in the general section where you can find the file you need.
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Okay I'll try that, and what about after I get it working, can I install any new ROM or whatever to get rid of all the verizon junk?
Griingo said:
Okay I'll try that, and what about after I get it working, can I install any new ROM or whatever to get rid of all the verizon junk?
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No. No root means no custom ROMs.
landshark68 said:
No. No root means no custom ROMs.
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Well I was able to repair it finally using the tool, I'm still on 5.0 so I'm guessing I'm screwed... What about downgrading and then doing root / custom ROM? Or am I just screwed all together LOL I'd just sell the phone at this point since I no longer have Verizon (they're ****) but still have the phone.
Griingo said:
Well I was able to repair it finally using the tool, I'm still on 5.0 so I'm guessing I'm screwed... What about downgrading and then doing root / custom ROM? Or am I just screwed all together LOL I'd just sell the phone at this point since I no longer have Verizon (they're ****) but still have the phone.
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Sorry to keep saying no, but if you are on OE1, OG5, or the new OK3 you cannot downgrade. You are stuck where you are.
I want to root my 6p because I want to enable miracast streaming to my TV. I know theres a line or so I need to add to the bottom in order for that to work.
My question is this: If i root is there some kind of other upkeep I would need to do to make sure my phone works and gets updated as normal while it's rooted? I'm not a tinkerer when it comes to this, I just saw I could achieve miracast if I went with this method, so figured it was worth it to find out what Id be getting myself into if I rooted the phone.
you cannot update your phone OTA while rooted.
so if you're not a tinkerer, you need to learn to be if you root.
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I want to root my 6p because I want to enable miracast streaming to my TV. I know theres a line or so I need to add to the bottom in order for that to work.
My question is this: If i root is there some kind of other upkeep I would need to do to make sure my phone works and gets updated as normal while it's rooted? I'm not a tinkerer when it comes to this, I just saw I could achieve miracast if I went with this method, so figured it was worth it to find out what Id be getting myself into if I rooted the phone.
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I read someone was able to get around it by unchecking OEM unlock in dev settings and doing the update then re enabling it after update. I assume they also had systemless root and lost that during the update. But I have not tried this myself.
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I read someone was able to get around it by unchecking OEM unlock in dev settings and doing the update then re enabling it after update. I assume they also had systemless root and lost that during the update. But I have not tried this myself.
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This is not true, once you root your phone, you will be unable to accept OTA update unless you revert back to stock, ie;
Stock Recovery
Stock Boot
Stock System
If you are at all uncomfortable attempting I suggest you do not root.
dratsablive said:
If you are at all uncomfortable attempting I suggest you do not root.
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I'm completely comfortable rooting. Not sure where you're getting that. I was just sharing something I read.
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Here is a link to what I read. It wouldn't be hard to remove root and flash stock recovery if you wanted to upgrade. As long as you are still stock obviously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64974439
Gizmoe said:
I read someone was able to get around it by unchecking OEM unlock in dev settings and doing the update then re enabling it after update. I assume they also had systemless root and lost that during the update. But I have not tried this myself.
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No.
To root you need to use a custom recovery, TWRP.
As long as you have TWRP installed no OTA.
Just download and flash the updates.
tech_head said:
No.
To root you need to use a custom recovery, TWRP.
As long as you have TWRP installed no OTA.
Just download and flash the updates.
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Look right above your post...
I used wug master to flash CW13. But for some reason all my apps that need root permissions say no root. It's been awhile since I have rooted a device but in the past once it's rooted it's rooted... right? I imagine it's probably something simple but I'm just clueless.
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I used wug master to flash CW13. But for some reason all my apps that need root permissions say no root. It's been awhile since I have rooted a device but in the past once it's rooted it's rooted... right? I imagine it's probably something simple but I'm just clueless.
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Go into developer options and change the root access option