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Are there any leads to a Samsung Focus flashable ROM yet? Even an OEM ROM? I'd really like to take my Focus back to 7004 and start over if possible.
Unfortunately, I tried to recover using Windows Phone Support Tool and it destroyed my ability to Unlock again. I was trying to revert back to my 7004 backup, but was not sure how to do it.
Now I'm concerned about not being able to get OEM or Chevron updates. That would bite!
I have been looking for a while, no luck
wish I had the knowledge to make a rom to backup 7004 before upgrading
hopefully some nice person will make a rom (preferably Rogers as less bloatware)
Don't expect a ROM for Focus anytime soon. There's simply no one working on it. I have a bricked device that needs a new ROM flash. Been waiting for months now!
UzEE said:
Don't expect a ROM for Focus anytime soon. There's simply no one working on it. I have a bricked device that needs a new ROM flash. Been waiting for months now!
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I'm hoping there is someone quietly working on it without posting their progress so they are not bombarded with questions and questions about when it will be released.
Please don't take offense if you've already done this, but have you already tried the Windows Phone Support Tool to try to get it going again? From what I saw when I ran it, the tool has the ability to download updates, and MAYBE ROM parts? It's just a thought.
There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.
ASPTHEONE said:
There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.
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How much do you want for it? I'm pretty dumb...
ASPTHEONE said:
There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.
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Would that not make you the dumb one for buying a phone that didn't have a stock rom in the first place? As is stands I think the stock rom is more than smooth enough. Yes there are things lacking and not as many tweakable options as android, but it is still very usable. Just be patient, it will come eventually.
Nobody seems to realize the disasters of Android when they first came out. We are already far ahead with WP7 on a timescale point of view.
Nobody is dumb here, we all just have different expectations from our devices.
Also, along the lines of time frames, WP7 is also ahead of the iPhone when it was released. It too had it's headaches, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we get cut/paste faster? And MultiTasking will be here WAY faster than iPhone got it.
Just be patient, and give it a little time to mature. It's coming along quite nicely, especially lately. And the ATT feet dragging on the update? I'd much rather they took a little extra time than see a bunch of people in these threads with bricked phones, or upgrades that didn't work as planned. That can kill an OS. I think the first Feb update showed them they need to be cautious, and that's exactly what they are doing. No, I don't like to wait, I'm as impatient as the next guy, sometimes more, but it will be worth it in the long run.
UPDATE!​
I was concerned that forcing the NoDo update and then using the Windows Recovery Tool had made my phone unable to receive the March NoDo update from ATT.
Well, I'm happy to say that I just plugged my phone in this morning, and I'm RIGHT NOW updating to the "Samsung update for Windows Phone".
WOOHOO!!!! I thought I was hosed...
Now, the question will be, Can I Unlock It? I doubt it, but at least I'm getting the actual Update from ATT. I'm hoping there is a firmware update included also. I'll let you know.
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I'm hoping there is someone quietly working on it without posting their progress so they are not bombarded with questions and questions about when it will be released.
Please don't take offense if you've already done this, but have you already tried the Windows Phone Support Tool to try to get it going again? From what I saw when I ran it, the tool has the ability to download updates, and MAYBE ROM parts? It's just a thought.
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I did try to use the Windows Phone Support Tool, and even disected the code. It still needs signed FFUs from Microsoft to flash to the device. You can't just make it flash your custom ROMs.
It would really be awesome is someone was indeed working on a ROM for Focus right now, because then I would be able to bring my phone back to life. But unfortunately, I've been wating since february and it hasn't happened, and there have been people who have been waiting even longer.
I can't even sell the device to anyone because it doesn't even boot up. Its just a paperweight now. It was a bad decision to buy this phone. Should have gone with the Omnia 7 instead.
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I did try to use the Windows Phone Support Tool, and even disected the code. It still needs signed FFUs from Microsoft to flash to the device. You can't just make it flash your custom ROMs.
It would really be awesome is someone was indeed working on a ROM for Focus right now, because then I would be able to bring my phone back to life. But unfortunately, I've been wating since february and it hasn't happened, and there have been people who have been waiting even longer.
I can't even sell the device to anyone because it doesn't even boot up. Its just a paperweight now. It was a bad decision to buy this phone. Should have gone with the Omnia 7 instead.
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When you tried the Support tool, did it even see the phone? Will your phone even go into Restore Mode (Power/Camera)?
Just throwing ideas out, hoping to stumble across something that makes it light up again...
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I did try to use the Windows Phone Support Tool, and even disected the code. It still needs signed FFUs from Microsoft to flash to the device. You can't just make it flash your custom ROMs.
It would really be awesome is someone was indeed working on a ROM for Focus right now, because then I would be able to bring my phone back to life. But unfortunately, I've been wating since february and it hasn't happened, and there have been people who have been waiting even longer.
I can't even sell the device to anyone because it doesn't even boot up. Its just a paperweight now. It was a bad decision to buy this phone. Should have gone with the Omnia 7 instead.
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I dont understand why you are bashing this phone so badly. I moved from a fuze with win 6.5 plus. I loved the freedom i had with that phone. but, as with any rom and initial release of an op system. there will be bugs. there will be updates. This all takes time. I think this phone is awesome for now. Its very easy to use and is powerful and very fast. The wifi is much faster than what im used to. Just be patient there will be some great improvements to come for this.
The rom posted in the development forum works and is for AT&T Samsung Focus. Read my reply
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There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.
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Why the hell would I do that?? The phone is near perfect as is.
Try this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045968
See if it works for you.
Focus Rom
This maybe a true Focus Rom but the person who is saying it works has not or will not say how he used this rom. The upload tool included with the Rom does not work.
If it really does work why not just tell us what you used to flash the phone?
The other ROM 7004 included in the thread is a AT&T Demo ROM so don't use it.
rrmcco said:
This maybe a true Focus Rom but the person who is saying it works has not or will not say how he used this rom. The upload tool included with the Rom does not work.
If it really does work why not just tell us what you used to flash the phone?
The other ROM 7004 included in the thread is a AT&T Demo ROM so don't use it.
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I don't think so. On any of the claims.
He has clearly stated how he did it, the tool as well, but nobody actually verified. Unless someone actually tries those with a Focus, all rest are suppositions. Including mine.
So unless someone actually tries them, I have to say what the original poster (Chinese) said they are:
There are 3 roms posted there now:
-UCKC3
-UCKC3 mod/custom 7004 (no idea what that means)
-AT&T Demo
The last 2 have been posted by me in that order in the Focus UCKC3 rom thread.
does anyone know how to use this? i need an instruction
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I don't think so. On any of the claims.
He has clearly stated how he did it, the tool as well, but nobody actually verified. Unless someone actually tries those with a Focus, all rest are suppositions. Including mine.
So unless someone actually tries them, I have to say what the original poster (Chinese) said they are:
There are 3 roms posted there now:
-UCKC3
-UCKC3 mod/custom 7004 (no idea what that means)
-AT&T Demo
The last 2 have been posted by me in that order in the Focus UCKC3 rom thread.
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I have a Samsung Focus and I did try the ROM's mentioned in the Chinese site both are the AT&T ROMS.
The UCKC3 ROM I can not use with the tool to update.
EnderPsp said:
I don't think so. On any of the claims.
He has clearly stated how he did it, the tool as well, but nobody actually verified. Unless someone actually tries those with a Focus, all rest are suppositions. Including mine.
So unless someone actually tries them, I have to say what the original poster (Chinese) said they are:
There are 3 roms posted there now:
-UCKC3
-UCKC3 mod/custom 7004 (no idea what that means)
-AT&T Demo
The last 2 have been posted by me in that order in the Focus UCKC3 rom thread.
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I am not 100% sure but i believe he stated the tool worked for him. But I had already posted this comment.
I'm not here to say bad things, I just had not sean a coment on how he was able to use the ROM, and was hoping somebody would say how they did it. And yes he did.
Did you find it cleared multi-touch issues or improved it at all? Some people say Cyanogenmod fixed things, but I'd just like more confirmation that it'd make a difference
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Did you find it cleared multi-touch issues or improved it at all? Some people say Cyanogenmod fixed things, but I'd just like more confirmation that it'd make a difference
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I also have this problem. Tomorrow planning to flash on ParanoidAndroid or Cyanogenmod. Tomorrow otpishus the results.
**Menos** said:
I also have this problem. Tomorrow planning to flash on ParanoidAndroid or Cyanogenmod. Tomorrow otpishus the results.
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I've never tried flashing a ROM before, my device is already unlocked/rooted. What do you do exactly to flash Cyanogenmod?
Just installed Cyanogenmod and saw that the problem is not solved. I fear starting to appear that the problem is hardware. Now have to wait for an update from Google.
IIRC, the screen issue is due to a firmware config that cannot be addressed by flashing a new ROM. An updated firmware package will have to be pushed via Google.
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IIRC, the screen issue is due to a firmware config that cannot be addressed by flashing a new ROM. An updated firmware package will have to be pushed via Google.
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Did Google confirm this was the problem? I just need to make sure it is their problem before I go and swap it out since I have 1 more week to decide
fedreta said:
Did Google confirm this was the problem? I just need to make sure it is their problem before I go and swap it out since I have 1 more week to decide
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From what I have seen, google is aware of all the big bugs and is working on a big update. Looks like screen flicker, multitouch, overheating, corrupted images on startup, gps, wifi performance etc are going to be fixed in a bugfix update. All the nexus devices start their lives like this, one of the few annoying things about being a nexus fanboy, you get to enjoy the bugs before anyone else gets to.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/13/2013-nexus-7-multitouch-bug/
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Did Google confirm this was the problem? I just need to make sure it is their problem before I go and swap it out since I have 1 more week to decide
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I'm trying to remember the source of my information. But it was stated a few times that the second OTA is what causes the screen issues after powering your device up for the first time.
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I'm trying to remember the source of my information. But it was stated a few times that the second OTA is what causes the screen issues after powering your device up for the first time.
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Yeah I remember this too, something about the kernel supplying not enough voltage to the touchscreen in an attempt to improve battery life. This has to be a kernel bug.
Try flashing a different kernel as that is what bridges hardware and software.
Aren't all kernels based on stock?
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From what I have seen, google is aware of all the big bugs and is working on a big update. Looks like screen flicker, multitouch, overheating, corrupted images on startup, gps, wifi performance etc are going to be fixed in a bugfix update.
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I would love to see that happen, but where do you see Google acknowledged and commited to fix all those problems?
If it is just speculation, that doesn't help folks who are within their return period and can get out instead of playing guinea pig.
sfhub said:
I would love to see that happen, but where do you see Google acknowledged and commited to fix all those problems?
If it is just speculation, that doesn't help folks who are within their return period and can get out instead of playing guinea pig.
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According to the minions on their google+ "they are working on these issues". I by no means know that google is in fact going to be able to fix all of these issues, nor am I able to guarantee what they do, but I don't see that by repeating what their reps are saying is pure speculation. I think that judging by past examples anyone who has bought a nexus device at launch has either knowingly or unknowingly already agreed to be a guinea pig. In the end I am one of the last people to say that someone shouldn't return a defective piece of hardware, but it seems a lot of the issues people are having are being misdiagnosed as hardware issues when in fact they can (and most likely will) be fixed by an OTA.
I can dare to say that the issue is present in Android 4.3 affecting any device running it even Custom Roms I'm on CyanogenMod 10.2 on my d2spr (S3 Sprint) and the issue is present there too. Also that causes reboots too. I could be wrong too.
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Also the jss build is giving problems in the nexus 4 thread
Sent 4rm my Nexus 7 FLO... Only thing missing is O.G. N7's development...
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Looks like screen flicker, multitouch, overheating, corrupted images on startup, gps, wifi performance etc are going to be fixed in a bugfix update.
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uprightbass360 said:
According to the minions on their google+ "they are working on these issues". I by no means know that google is in fact going to be able to fix all of these issues, nor am I able to guarantee what they do, but I don't see that by repeating what their reps are saying is pure speculation.
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No problem with repeating what they are saying, but you seem to have commited them to more than they are saying in their personal comments, not those as official reps.
IMO everyone should get accurate information so they can evaluate for themselves whether it is worth the risk to keep it or just to return the unit.
Personally I think the random reboots and GPS can be addressed in software and the multi-touch is probably 50/50 something that can be worked around in software, but everyone has their own tolerance levels for these kind of issues and "are looking into it or are working on it" and "going to be fixed" are quite different levels of commitment.
I'm sorry but what issues are you having because I exchanged my first n7 because I was having multitouch stuttering and issues with unresponsiveness which made the device unusable. The new device is okay.
Hey all,
I am new to this forums in terms of an account, but I browse around a lot. Recently, I had the guts to root my new HDX, and now want a ROM on it. I have done ROMS before, but on phones. For this tablet, I have done root using towel root on 4.2.2(NOT SANGRIA). Problem is, I cannot find any ROMS for this tablet, or any documentation of making one. Can someone point me to a ROM that is AOSP- based. Thanks
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Hey all,
I am new to this forums in terms of an account, but I browse around a lot. Recently, I had the guts to root my new HDX, and now want a ROM on it. I have done ROMS before, but on phones. For this tablet, I have done root using towel root on 4.2.2(NOT SANGRIA). Problem is, I cannot find any ROMS for this tablet, or any documentation of making one. Can someone point me to a ROM that is AOSP- based. Thanks
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There's really only one ROM for this device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/development/apollo-nexus-v1-1-t2835838
So nothing newer than jelly bean? I was gOing to be an idiot and try to get 5.0 on this, like an idiot. Thank god there is at least a Rom though
XxD34THxX said:
So nothing newer than jelly bean? I was gOing to be an idiot and try to get 5.0 on this, like an idiot. Thank god there is at least a Rom though
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Good chance you will see nothing more. Device has drawn little interest over the past year. Too bad..excellent hardware..
Tomen8r said:
Good chance you will see nothing more. Device has drawn little interest over the past year. Too bad..excellent hardware..
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Damn, too bad it's a pain to navigate the android site(and to actually build a kernel and stuffs for a phone), otherwise I'd try to port 5.0 myself I'm still doing Linux and C++/Java, and just finished VB..
XxD34THxX said:
Damn, too bad it's a pain to navigate the android site(and to actually build a kernel and stuffs for a phone), otherwise I'd try to port 5.0 myself I'm still doing Linux and C++/Java, and just finished VB..
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The real reason behind the lack of development for this device is the locked bootloader. It would be impossible to do so.
EncryptedCurse said:
The real reason behind the lack of development for this device is the locked bootloader. It would be impossible to do so.
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Yup, the reason I sold my HDX for the Tab Pro 8.4. I'm sure the device will have a unlock in the future. (I'm looking at other devices that are unlocked using the same chipset.) I fell in love with my new tablet tho. unlocked + sd card slot + nice screen + gps - crappy battery life won me over to the dark side of sammy sung .
Mine was a gift.
Received the update to Android 7.0 NRD90M (from Preview 5) last night.
Wifi or LTE?
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I enrolled my Nexus 9 LTE in the Beta program and got DP5 yesterday. Today I got the update to full Android 7.0.
I did the same (beta program) 2 hours ago for my N9 WiFi, received the full Android 7 and installed; then removed from beta with no need to reinstall all (I agreed to receive the OTA for a official Android version but nothing is arrived...).
Nexus 9 (WIFI) factory image : https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/volantis-nrd90m-factory-b718f71b.tgz
Nexus 9 (WIFI) OTA image : https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/volantis-ota-nrd90m-5468c87c.zip
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glockman4519 said:
Has any of you awesome followers with more android skill than I, made a TWRP flashable zip with this update?
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not that i've come across but why would you need one? stock img is available from google
edit: you could even take the extremely lazy route (as long as you're on fully stock) and sign into the beta program for N, it updates almost immediately
My device is not recognised for the beta program. Any ideas why. I flashed the full version any way but just curious. Nexus 9 wi-fi.
Gold Ribbed said:
My device is not recognised for the beta program. Any ideas why. I flashed the full version any way but just curious. Nexus 9 wi-fi.
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Nexus 9 wifi latest factory image already available on Google developer site.
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damngood98 said:
not that i've come across but why would you need one? stock img is available from google
edit: you could even take the extremely lazy route (as long as you're on fully stock) and sign into the beta program for N, it updates almost immediately
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It has nothing to do with being lazy... Lol..... It has to do with ADB. I know that I can use ADB and side load this from my PC using TWRP. But usually there is a rooted version out hours after Google releases a new OS. I was just checking to see of anyone made one yet. That's all. I see now that there isn't one so I will wait until one is made and shared. Thank you though for replying to my post.
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Actually .. if you're waiting for someone to post a zip flashable version that's already rooted, instead of just flashing the files with fastboot, then flashing superSu, I'd call that pretty lazy too. Lol
dictionary said:
Actually .. if you're waiting for someone to post a zip flashable version that's already rooted, instead of just flashing the files with fastboot, then flashing superSu, I'd call that pretty lazy too. Lol
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Call it what you will. I am not going to argue with you. I already have it on and rooted, so I'm not lazy. I do video reviews and a large portion of my subs are new to android. I just wanted to try and find an easy to flash, one step process for them to follow but you cant even ask for something like that here without someone doing exactly this. Its a shame really and its no wonder that some people find it hard to enjoy this side of Android. Thank you again for you response.
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Going to have to disagree with you on this one. If you are doing any of this stuff to your device, it's best you know how to fix it if it doesn't work out. IMHO, if you are on the Nexus line, you should be adb/fastboot proficient.
I can understand why people don't like responses like ours, but honestly the world has become way too coddled. People want everything NOW. Answer my question, I don't want to search. For the people who have been around for a while, that gets old. I have no qualms helping people out, but people are overly sensitive to everything. I'm not trying to argue either. Wasn't trying to come off negative, was just being playful. If that gets misconstrued as something that would make people not want to visit this site, then I say they seriously need a dose of reality.
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Going to have to disagree with you on this one. If you are doing any of this stuff to your device, it's best you know how to fix it if it doesn't work out. IMHO, if you are on the Nexus line, you should be adb/fastboot proficient.
I can understand why people don't like responses like ours, but honestly the world has become way too coddled. People want everything NOW. Answer my question, I don't want to search. For the people who have been around for a a while, that gets old. I have no qualms helping people out, but people are overly sensitive to everything. I'm not trying to argue either. Wasn't trying to come off negative either, was just being playful. If that gets misconstrued as something that would make people not want to visit this site, then I say they seriously need a dose of reality.
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Just don't bother saying anything at all then this thread won't get filled up with your disagreements... Or at least just private message them:good:
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Agreed to disagree. I wasn't asking for anything right away or demanding of anything of the sort. I simply asked a question. I searched and did what was required on my part. And I didn't ask you personally for you're help. It was a simple question asked in general. Either there is a yes response or no response at all.
I have also been around for a while and am not new to this forum or android. I know the rules and before I posted I checked. All I'm saying is if there is no help or answer to my question, and there isn't, I go my mary way with no response and I keep searching on my own. I get it. Look at my posts, I don't treaty people like idiots. If I don't have an answer for a post, I Just don't reply. I am not going to waist my day in argument over something this trivial. I am sorry to have disturbed you or anyone one else for that matter in this thread and I sincerely apologize, it's just a shame that it's needed, but I'll respect that since I wasn't the one to start this thread. Again thank you for your reply.
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Was referring to the people you were trying to instruct in your video, not you.
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Just don't bother saying anything at all then this thread won't get filled up with your disagreements... Or at least just private message them:good:
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Not replying has also had people come back to threads mad that nobody replied, lol. It's a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't type situation. *shrug* oh well I guess.
glockman4519 said:
Call it what you will. I am not going to argue with you. I already have it on and rooted, so I'm not lazy. I do video reviews and a large portion of my subs are new to android. I just wanted to try and find an easy to flash, one step process for them to follow but you cant even ask for something like that here without someone doing exactly this. Its a shame really and its no wonder that some people find it hard to enjoy this side of Android. Thank you again for you response.
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Just thinking out loud, but maybe you are not best placed to pass on your "knowledge" to beginners if you yourself don't know much/enough about the subject?
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Got my update yesterday via OTA . I must say I am slightly underwhelmed by the performance now. Especially Chrome feels much more laggy and sluggish. Scrolling was smoother before.
Anyone else with the same experience?
yahooooo said:
Got my update yesterday via OTA . I must say I am slightly underwhelmed by the performance now. Especially Chrome feels much more laggy and sluggish. Scrolling was smoother before.
Anyone else with the same experience?
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I haven't updated yet, so I don't know if the following applies to N, and, since you took the OTA you're probably not interested in a custom kernel, and, I don't even know what kernels are available, but, what the hell, just in case: Chrome was extremely slow for me, too, until I installed ElementalX and set Readahead to 128.
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I haven't updated yet, so I don't know if the following applies to N, and, since you took the OTA you're probably not interested in a custom kernel, and, I don't even know what kernels are available, but, what the hell, just in case: Chrome was extremely slow for me, too, until I installed ElementalX and set Readahead to 128.
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Something went wrong !!
Try factory reset !
Reflash everything via fastboot
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Something when wrong !!
Try factory reset !
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I'm afraid that I don't understand your comment.
Anyone hear if they are going to be developed friendly our like Samsung locked down?
I'm a Nexus user for years & running the great Android O beta rooted already.
eturk01 said:
Anyone hear if they are going to be developed friendly our like Samsung locked down?
I'm a Nexus user for years & running the great Android O beta rooted already.
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Bump. I wonder the same. Running with my old OnePlus one, all custom software, but have a preorder on a white PH-1....
Given its an unlocked phone, I'd assume the intention is to provide ROOT and encourage development
I really hope so. ??
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I guess we're still waiting on the kernel source and that's why?
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Anyone hear if they are going to be developed friendly our like Samsung locked down?
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Given its an unlocked phone, I'd assume the intention is to provide ROOT and encourage development
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It's carrier unlocked. I haven't heard anything about bootloader unlocked. Which i'm sure it's not, but probably able to unlock easily with "oem unlock" command (hoping anyway). I expect this phone to be easy to unlock, get root, and have a plethora of development. Although it could take some time to get rolling depending on how many devs buy it.
BTW- this thread should be in Discussion or Q & A.
https://www.xda-developers.com/essential-phone-will-have-an-unlockable-bootloader/
Bootloader will be unlockable
The biggest thing is that no one has the phones yet. To really start development we need the phones to extract the firmware and start messing around with the software. Patience, mods will come.
This runs almost completely stock Android, which means we will be abel to do ROMs just like any Nexus/Pixel phone does assuming Essential didnt lock down the "oem unlock" ability. Though they have said in a not 100% official capacity that it will be bootloader unlockable so we should have full ROM and kernel capability .
The bootloader unlock sounds pretty guaranteed, however the roms for Pixel/Nexus devices are built using the official source and kernels released from Google. I wonder how close to stock Essential will run that either they will release sources hopefully close to Google's schedule (which I sort of doubt considering they are launching with 7.1.1 and not 7.1.2) and how much modification their roms may need to run the wireless addon feature and camera on this device. I am hoping we can install and get full functionality out of the Google camera on this device as the stock one does look, limiting, however the wireless addons hopefully will be an easy addon that can be ported to whatever OS builds come down the line..
But like said above, only time and actual hands on can tell.
This thread really doesn't belong in the development section since it's a question it would belong in the Q&A
Anybody getting worried..lol
I'm just hoping for TWRP and Root soon... I'm not in a big hurry for any custom roms.
I'm just hoping that someone could make a custom kernel with gesture support such as dt2w/s2w and wave to activate ambient display.
If this phone doesn't get rooted within my return window, I'm going to be forced to send it back. I can't get by without titanium
Cowbell_Guy said:
If this phone doesn't get rooted within my return window, I'm going to be forced to send it back. I can't get by without titanium
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All we need is twrp to get root. Hopefully soon.
NeonHD said:
I'm just hoping that someone could make a custom kernel with gesture support such as dt2w/s2w and wave to activate ambient display.
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YES. Would love this.
Cowbell_Guy said:
If this phone doesn't get rooted within my return window, I'm going to be forced to send it back. I can't get by without titanium
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Rubin's doing an AMA on Thursday so hopefully we get an answer.
I think we need to wait for the Q&A from Andy tomorrow. That is when we can find out a timeline for when we can get source code to start doing things such as rooting and other modding/ ROM making. Just need to have patience and this phone will take off I think.
Cowbell_Guy said:
If this phone doesn't get rooted within my return window, I'm going to be forced to send it back. I can't get by without titanium
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This is akin to putting the cart before the horse. Wouldn't it have made more sense to get the phone WHEN root and etc was available for it?
The phone isn't going anywhere..