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Shipped wrong device (8 GB instead of 16 GB)

Just noticed Google Play sent me an 8 GB version instead of 16 GB version...
Label on box reads 16 GB but having checked storage I only have 6 GB total storage available. Anyone else had this issue and how quick was Google to respond/rectify it?

Sdobron said:
Just noticed Google Play sent me an 8 GB version instead of 16 GB version...
Label on box reads 16 GB but having checked storage I only have 6 GB total storage available. Anyone else had this issue and how quick was Google to respond/rectify it?
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The exact same thing happened to me. I called up customer support last Wednesday and I've been waiting for them to ship me a new one since. When I called them up on Friday to see what the hold-up was (on Wednesday they had said it would ship "soon"), they essentially told me to wait until Monday evening and if it still hadn't shipped, call back (though they had no reason to expect it would ship). Which has to be the most useless customer service I've ever experienced.
Anyway, they should send you out a new one. When that will happen is anybody's guess. Google sure as hell doesn't know.

It's odd because from the forum I've seen 8 gb units with 5.92 gb storage, this has 6.02. Wonder if it's correct eMMC with incorrect partition sizes

Sdobron said:
It's odd because from the forum I've seen 8 gb units with 5.92 gb storage, this has 6.02. Wonder if it's correct eMMC with incorrect partition sizes
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Yes, mine has 5.92 gb. Have you reflashed anything? I believe there's a thread in this forum by someone who had tried to reflash to stock using Google's binaries, skipped a step, and ended up with what looked like an 8 gb, but with ever so slightly more space. Fortunately after redoing the process again and doing all the steps they got back to 16 gb.

WTF?!!?? Google messed this up bad!
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I didn't expect google to mess up this bad on their flagship device orders.

Nxxx said:
WTF?!!?? Google messed this up bad!
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Yeah. For the record I finally received an email from Google to set up my replacement shipment. Mind you, that took 4 days, and nothing's actually been shipped yet -- this was purely to confirm my address and get my permission for a temporary charge on my credit card (in case I don't send the old unit back once I receive the new one).
Hopefully they get the order right this time...

Equivariant,
Any idea what thread that's in? Having trouble finding it. Thanks

Sdobron said:
Any idea what thread that's in? Having trouble finding it. Thanks
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Looks like it was
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776860
EDIT: Based off the image attached to that post, it looks like they were seeing 6.02 GB too.

That may have done it...trying now! Thanks for the link.

How's everyone is holding up with the Nexus 4's limited storage.

So this is my first Nexus and my first smartphone where I don't have expandable memory. While I love the phone I'm sure most people including myself wish there was at least a 32gb model. Regardless there's not no sense in beating a dead horse. Just curious on how everyone's making due and what are your solution to the problem. I currently use Dropbox for pics and spotify and Google Music for music. It's working okay so far but apps aren't small these days so they take up some space
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ajoerivera said:
So this is my first Nexus and my first smartphone where I don't have expandable memory. While I love the phone I'm sure most people including myself wish there was at least a 32gb model. Regardless there's not no sense in beating a dead horse. Just curious on how everyone's making due and what are your solution to the problem. I currently use Dropbox for pics and spotify and Google Music for music. It's working okay so far but apps aren't small these days so they take up some space
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My solution was to order a PQI Air Drive and put my 64gb microsd card in it, works like a charm. Was lucky enough to snag one on groupon for 50 bux which came with a 32gb card already.

djkinetic said:
My solution was to order a PQI Air Drive and put my 64gb microsd card in it, works like a charm. Was lucky enough to snag one on groupon for 50 bux which came with a 32gb card already.
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Never heard of it ill have to look it up isn't that basically a cloud though
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I don't even need the 8GB of space.

asawoszc said:
I don't even need the 8GB of space.
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This. I still have 4.2GB free. Local storage is for the birds.
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El Daddy said:
This. I still have 4.2GB free. Local storage is for the birds.
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can you please tell me after everything installed in the 8gb version , how much gb free you have??

mrgold2505 said:
can you please tell me after everything installed in the 8gb version , how much gb free you have??
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5.67GB is the formatted capacity.
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El Daddy said:
5.67GB is the formatted capacity.
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So plaint of space for a old user like me...lol thanks for your fast replay. so i think iam going to by one in ebay...lol

2.99GB free as of now

800mb's free, thank god for the dup backup method in cwm recovery otherwise i'd only be able to keep one backup rather many.

peachpuff said:
800mb's free, thank god for the dup backup method in cwm recovery otherwise i'd only be able to keep one backup rather many.
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Why keep so many backups? I used to keep 2 but I never reverted back to anything except the most recent one. Now I don't even bother with nandroids.

13gb:beer:
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I have a Galaxy Tab 7 Plus 16GB and I have at least 10 GB free. I would have got 8GB but we only have 16GB version.
I use it for Web browsing, some music and games.
I agree those who have a lot of media files on their phones will face problems. But an OTG cable will solve the issue.
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I got the 16gb version but have 50gb on my dropbox account so its not issue to me

Just fine, I would have liked the 16gb but it wasn't available so I've made due with the 8gb and it hasn't been much of an issue.

peachpuff said:
800mb's free, thank god for the dup backup method in cwm recovery otherwise i'd only be able to keep one backup rather many.
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no reason to keep backups on your phone at all. store them on your pc or backup drive. should something happen you can always push it to your phone, either manually via abd (push file /sdcard/) or nexus toolkit comfortably.

The space has not effected me very much at all. Compared to my 8 GB iPod Touch my 16 GB Nexus 4 is a luxury.
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about 2gb free on the 8Gb version... I'll admit its a bit annoying at times, but overall not really an issue. The Google music, drive and box account for cloud storage basically take care of everything.
The saving grace is google music.. (did the hack to get it working in canada etc..) without that 8Gb would just not be enough at all.

4.2 gb

My last phone was a gs3 and I had a 32gb sd card in it. It being hooked up to sprint I personally couldn't rely I cloud services like I do now my service was that bad, and mind you I live in NY. having switched to A&tt is a lot better . I guess it just a little weird to look at my phone and only see 5gbs free.
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AT&T S4 not 16gb internal?

Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?

highaltitude said:
Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
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I show 9.62 available on mine. It is kind of odd, but they did add a TON of bloatware. Once we get root and can remove those apps, we should be able to recapture quite a bit back.

highaltitude said:
Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
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Could be like the HOX and have around 10 for whatever storage and 6 dedicated for app storage and software/rom
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Yeah...seems pretty typical for a phone. ..they arent lieing as they never said 16gb useable...
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Yeah mine shows 9.62 total space and 8.48 available after installing my apps from previous phone, kinda sucks but at least there is an SD slot.
I was curious so I checked my old Sprint GNEX 32GB, it also has a chunk missing, about 7.5GB missing, so it is similar.
It would be nice if they listed the missing space as Reserved or System etc. instead of not showing it.

Yup guys 16GB total internal. The ROM and software has to sit somewhere on there. And AT&T has added so much crap to it I'm not surprised. But thats what the SD card slot is for yeah?

The stock apps seem to use up at least 1GB, plus any data they have.
Unsure about the system, but even the system for CyanogenMod 10.1 seemed to be around 600-800MB with all cache/data included. With TouchWIZ on these phones and all the extra bloat, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least another gig in there.

Aou said:
The stock apps seem to use up at least 1GB, plus any data they have.
Unsure about the system, but even the system for CyanogenMod 10.1 seemed to be around 600-800MB with all cache/data included. With TouchWIZ on these phones and all the extra bloat, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least another gig in there.
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Exactly. I heard the ROM file for the S4 was like 1.2 gigs or something like that. That's without cache and whatever else it needs to do.
I remember when I had the S3 the ROM file was like 800 megs for TW. And for AOSP it was like 250.

Even with a debloated rom its gonna be the same as the system partition is already set regardless of whats on it...just so you guys know of course it is posssiboe for a dev to tweak partition amounts...but they typically dont unless necessary
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Not possible to move apps to SD

Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Denomenance said:
Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Hi,
It's a 4.2.2 "Feature"

It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.

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It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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Hi,
Also the "16GB" is actually only 9.15GB on my phone.
The system eats a fair portion of it.

Before 4.2.2 could you move to sd without rooting then? And will it really kill memory card If i rooted and use folder mount
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If you can't install apps on sdcard
How much space is available for applications in phone?
I'm using gs2 now, and it only has 2gmail for appear from internal memory.
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Youre looking at 9Gb for 16
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So what to do now? :-/ I bought the "16" GB phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?

Still taking any and all suggestions...

knowledgeworker said:
So what to do now? :-/ I bought the phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.

Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!

knowledgeworker said:
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Cloudsync syncs your pics etc with Dropbox or its samsung account
Swyped from another galaxy

Thanks, indeed. I deactivated all that cloud-syncing nonsense, which solved my problem for now. Now I have a few weeks or months until I have to think again what to do. :-/
Is "Swyped from another galaxy" that a joke on the Samsung Galaxy keyboard system? lol

You're probably looking at 24gb on the 32gb version so a bunch more memory.
Most people will in fact be fine with 9gb though, power users who download a lot of really inefficient apps that cache a lot of things and require a lot of storage should get the 32gb version. I personally will be fine with the 16gb version.

You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.

Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yeah i am also waiting for the 32GB version because of the same reason.

my htc one s 16gb has 2gb dedicated to apps. for me plenty atm. that's independent of the 9.93 internal sdcard, don't know if s4 is same. however, as mentioned, 16gb phones are too small now days and i won't pay for the s4 till it gets 32gb on att and black--
also don't think i can post links to other forums per xda. but if you google "att 32gb s4", there is a link to an att forum specifically for the 32gb release and an active att moderator--just fyi

Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yea, im waiting 32 gb version. :laugh:
16 gb (9.xgb or 8.8gb) is simply ridiculous
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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Really? cant u save on the sd card by defalut ????

First of all.. If u want to store ur camera photos on sd card use camera zoom fx.. It's a very good camera app and there u can choose where to store the photos
The second.. U have 8,8 gb on stock firmware if u install a custom rom in a few weeks it will be more free space because of some bloatware installed on the stock and files we dont need i think.. Let the dev's do there great job
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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For photos there's a setting in the camera app which let's you select which storage to use. If it's not there use a file explorer to copy your photos across to your sd card.
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[No Rooting Needed] Enabling "Adaptive Storage" Option.

Recently I found a thread where a member could easily enable Marshmallow's adaptive storage feature which was hidden by Samsung. Good news is that you don't need to root your device for that. Just the knowledge of adb will do.
My concern is, that member has tried the method on his Snapdragon variant. So, is there anyone who has tried it with his Exynox device? I would like to know the success rates from you before trying it out myself.
P.S I don't think variants would matter much.

I am very interested but I don't want to format everything. Too much time consuming
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I was considering doing this as I had a new sd card to use, but when I found out how badly this affects the phones read/write speeds I opted to wait for a alternative method.
I don't really wanna sacrifice the phones snappyness
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I did a 50-50 split and it works great! Some apps get the available storage values wrong but this really works well, no speed issues.

jlomoro said:
I was considering doing this as I had a new sd card to use, but when I found out how badly this affects the phones read/write speeds I opted to wait for a alternative method.
I don't really wanna sacrifice the phones snappyness
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Where did you get this information? Show us here...
I think there's no other alternative methods unless Samsung releases an update, unhiding the feature.
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ChadH42 said:
I did a 50-50 split and it works great! Some apps get the available storage values wrong but this really works well, no speed issues.
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Good to know that it worked for you. I had a few questions though:
1. Is your device an Exynox variant?
2. How did you verify that it worked well? As per the article, the storage values shown by default will get messed up. So which file manager app did you try out for verifying the partition made?
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techsammy said:
Good to know that it worked for you. I had a few questions though:
1. Is your device an Exynox variant?
2. How did you verify that it worked well? As per the article, the storage values shown by default will get messed up. So which file manager app did you try out for verifying the partition made?
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I have adaptive storage enabled since day one on my Exynox variant S7 Edge, it will work fine!
I should post too, based on my experience, enabling adaptive storage may reduce the cards lifespan to around 2 years.
Background, I own 5 Sandisk Micro SD cards (128 GB variant.)
The 1st one I purchased was from Amazon on May 2014 and that was purchased for exclusive use with my Galaxy S4, specifically for Foldermount (obb folder to sd) and Link2Sd (apk to sd, allocated a 10 gig partition for moving apps)
My Galaxy S4 retired August this year and and migrated that sd card to the S7 and adaptive storage it. Last night it died
(write protected)
Am I surprised I only got 2 years out of the card? Not really, using it in this manner will significantly increase the number of writes to the card. Will I still be using adaptive storage in the future? Absolutely!! I purchased the card for $120.00, so that means for me it cost $60.00 per year for the extra space I guess that isn't too bad!?
The other thing you may all want to consider, if you have an addiction flashing the latest and the greatest then you may want to steer clear of adaptive storage, each time you flash a new rom you have to re-partition and re-format the Micro SD twice, then restore your files, so with every rom upgrade, you may significantly wear your card. Something to think about...

120 USD!!!????