In-car charging while in navigation - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Phone was at 100%, plugged in car and fired maps.
After 1h I unplugged it a d battery was at 85%.
Car charger is a 2A branded one.

screen brightness, along with always-on screen during Maps nav, slowed my car recharge rate

It sounds like you don't have a Quick Charge 2.0 or 3.0 car charger. The older "regular" 2A chargers can't charge the 6P or other newer phones fast enough to keep up with Navigation's drain.

Which car charger is everyone using, that support quick charge with the 6P?

Nexus 6P doesn't have Qualcomm Quick Charge Technology... If Nexus 6P charge fast (using stock charger) is because the technology build in in USB type C to type C + 3A power brick.
So you need something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Tron...843&sr=1-9&keywords=USB+Type+C+Car+Charger+3a
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DorianX said:
Nexus 6P doesn't have Qualcomm Quick Charge Technology... If Nexus 6P charge fast (using stock charger) is because the technology build in in USB type C to type C + 3A power brick.
So you need something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Tron...843&sr=1-9&keywords=USB+Type+C+Car+Charger+3a
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Thank you very much!

Erikbronx said:
Which car charger is everyone using, that support quick charge with the 6P?
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This one works well for me
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0179HN184/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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[Q] N4 uses battery while connected to a charger?

Hi,
I wanted to know if N4 uses battery or only use AC Power.
While is connected to a charger when:
A) N4 status = "Charging, Nº %".
B) N4 status = "Charged".
Assume for this, chargers....like LG retail travel charger 5V 1.2A or a Samsung Car charger 5V 1.0A.
B.Regards.
I'm not sure if this answers your question but I found this true for any smartphone including the Nexus 4. If you are doing something such as GPS navigation in the car and you do not have a charger that outputs enough current your battery level may still go down. Yes, thats annoying. The solution is to use a charger capable of outputting enough ma. I also stick with the chargers included with each of my devices. Ive had too many problems with using third party chargers.
Just food for thought.
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I think that always is battery powered. When you are charging, if power in > power consumition then the phone chargers.
Regards.
Thanks! I see....
Do you think 1A would be enough for "Google directions" usage (CAR GPS).?
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thesebastian said:
Hi,
I wanted to know if N4 uses battery or only use AC Power.
While is connected to a charger when:
A) N4 status = "Charging, Nº %".
B) N4 status = "Charged".
Assume for this, chargers....like LG retail travel charger 5V 1.2A or a Samsung Car charger 5V 1.0A.
B.Regards.
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Stock charger sucks (attach never unplugged charger)
Mmm i just played a race in ASPHALT 7 and my battery was raised from 91% to 94% on Stock LG Charger...
(Maybe ASPHALT doesn't use too much battery? its the heaviest game i have..).

Motorola "TurboPower" quick charger

Any cheaper or better alternatives to it? It has to be bought separately since it is not included in the box.
For me its include on the box. Its the square one isnt?. When i plug in it says Turbo Chargue on.
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Marco Lomas said:
For me its include on the box. Its the square one isnt?. When i plug in it says Turbo Chargue on.
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Not all of them come with it. Kind of lame on carriers part.
Any Qualcomm 2.0 quick charger should work
Oh i didnt know that :/ i bought it directly from motorola.
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I got the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 charger.
Around 10€ @ Amazon. Works perfect with the MXP.
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So any qualcomm quick 2.0 charger will have the same functionality and speed?
danny.ffm said:
I got the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 charger.
Around 10€ @ Amazon. Works perfect with the MXP.
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Confirm that it's working great
Recommend Tronsmart qc2.0 chargers, They are qualcomm certified, and featured quick charge brand.
I just bought a tronsmart QC charger for my car. How do I know if quick charge is working though? It just displays charging still...
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ephumuris said:
I just bought a tronsmart QC charger for my car. How do I know if quick charge is working though? It just displays charging still...
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On stock, it'll display turbo power connected. If cm, use Ampere from the play store
Hmm OK well I don't think the one I bought is really a quick charger unless my car simply doesn't put enough power out?! It only displays charging and I'm on stock.
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Check using Ampere in market.
Charging time
Hi Guys does ant tested how much time it is taking to fully charged from 0%.
Does any one have turbo 25 charger if yes how much it is taking to fully charged with that turbo 25 charger.
I have the same question as sandeep,
how long does the turbo need to charge the bat?
Does the Turbo charger simply has more power than standard chargers, or is there anything else special or proprietary?
More amperage,my turbo charger is 2.4a, whereas standard ones are 1a I believe
There's more to it than just straight amperage in the charging circuit, here is a good explanation of it
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-explained-563838/
The newer fast charge systems use a stepped system to always give the most amps the battery can take for any given situation. There is actually 3 systems right now (I hate when everyone can't agree)
There is Quick Charge 2.0 (QC 2.0) used by Moto & HTC, 2nd the new USB-C connector has its own spec for fast charge but unfortunately a lot of the USB-C coming on newer devices are only using the old USB 2.0 spec - so no fast charge available. Last but not least One Plus has their own unique fast charge spec.
From what I have read if you have a good USB cable (one designed for charging) and you have USB adapter capable of at least 3.0 amps it might trigger the QC 2.0 circuit in the phone to go into turbo mode but it is not a given fact, more like trial and error.
The phone needs more than 5 hours to charge fully. The quick charger is a must have i my eyes.
I'll order the TurboPower™ 15 now.
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Can I damage the 6P with a MacBook charger?

I have the new MacBook with USB-C next to my bed. It would be very convenient to use that charger for 6P at night, but wonder if the 6P will regulate what it needs or if I can cause damage. MacBook charger is 29W but maybe the 6P can handle it.
I'd check the output amperage on the power brick of the macbook and compare that to the nexus 6p charger.
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It will work fine, the phone controls how many amps it draws, not the other way around. I don't know the specs of the macbook charger so it might not be able to "fast charge" the phone if it can't do 5V 3A.
Only if you start beating your phone with it.
The 29W Apple USB-C can provide up to either [email protected] for devices that comply with USB PD spec or up to [email protected] for everything else.
So yeah, use it to your hearts content, just it won't be quite as fast as the [email protected] charger.
Different charger, but the charger for my Chromebook Pixel works well with the 5x. Charges just as fast as the charger included with the phone.
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Thanks to all for your helpful replies. I'll be plugging it in for overnight charging so the speed doesn't matter.
Charge Nexus 6P from Macbook
orange-man1 said:
I have the new MacBook with USB-C next to my bed. It would be very convenient to use that charger for 6P at night, but wonder if the 6P will regulate what it needs or if I can cause damage. MacBook charger is 29W but maybe the 6P can handle it.
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Hi, It might not be relevant but I'm curious can you charge you nexus 6p from your macbook? Macbook have USB Type-C and so is on Nexus 6P. also how fast it charges.. also when you connect to your Macbook can you open system information. and looking at USB info how much it giving power?
lagittaja said:
The 29W Apple USB-C can provide up to either [email protected] for devices that comply with USB PD spec or up to [email protected] for everything else.
So yeah, use it to your hearts content, just it won't be quite as fast as the [email protected] charger.
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I still don't get it, if the macbook charger has more "power" why does it charge slower aka it does not support fast charge?
Tried to charge Huawei Honor 8 with Macbook pro charger (20v/9v/5v). It's alive, but doesn't support fast-charge with default usb-c to usb-c macbook cord.
Chad_Petree said:
I still don't get it, if the macbook charger has more "power" why does it charge slower aka it does not support fast charge?
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A basic explanation would be that the volts are the power that the charger has, the amps are how fast it can transfer that power. As mentioned earlier, the phone decides how much power it draws from the charger. The charger can supply more power, but that doesn't matter since the phone will cap the power it draws from it. So whether you're using a stock 6P charger or one that has 3 times the voltage, the same amount of power is reaching the phone. So with volts being even between both chargers, you look to the amps. The Mac chargers have lower amperage, which means it can't move those volts as fast as the 6P charger can. As such, it's not high enough to support rapid charging.

Quick Charging OnePlus 2 possible with Nexus 6P charger?

Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
No, op2 doesn't have quickcharge built in. You might break your battery.
Energy don't work that way.
Think of your opt charge circuit as if it is a water hose, battery is a little container, charger is the big container.
It doesn't matter how big is the charger container the hose will take the same time to fill the small container.
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fburgos said:
Energy don't work that way.
Think of your opt charge circuit as if it is a water hose, battery is a little container, charger is the big container.
It doesn't matter how big is the charger container the hose will take the same time to fill the small container.
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Couldn't have said it better myself
Quick charge is a built in feature which is not included in op2. So it's not possible to charge it that way.
I believe the snapdragon 810 supports quick charge, however, the OP2 designers chose not to implement it, probably due to the increase in cost associated with upgraded current handling for some parts, but that's a guess on my part.
There's usually no problem with using a larger capacity charger with your phone because they're almost always self regulating. However, it will probably not accelerate charging unless the device supports it.
No it doesn't support it.
My OP2 charges in 1hr50mins to full.. I am satisfied with it.
nielsscholte said:
Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
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The nexus devices don't quick charge, they however charge quickly (called fast charging) with the new type C connection via a 15w 5v/3a charger. It's a non proprietary open standard and not a Qualcomm certified type of deal. The question is legit, you could be able to get a quicker charge with the nexus charger.
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robstunner said:
The nexus devices don't quick charge, they however charge quickly (called fast charging) with the new type C connection via a 15w 5v/3a charger. It's a non proprietary open standard and not a Qualcomm certified type of deal. The question is legit, you could be able to get a quicker charge with the nexus charger.
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Yes I know that they don't use Qualcomm Quick Charge but some fast charging that's possible because of USB Type C. So that's why I asked if the OnePlus 2 could also use the ''Fast Charging'' capability from the 6P
nielsscholte said:
Yes I know that they don't use Qualcomm Quick Charge but some fast charging that's possible because of USB Type C. So that's why I asked if the OnePlus 2 could also use the ''Fast Charging'' capability from the 6P
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Right, I'm supporting your question as it seems everyone else doesn't seem to understand that....
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robstunner said:
Right, I'm supporting your question as it seems everyone else doesn't seem to understand that....
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Well maybe I should grab a 6P charger and test it
Quick charge/fast charge whatever you want to call it won't work, opt circuit/controller is designed for 1A current, it won't demand any more than that.
You can have a custom kernel that tells the controller to not "shutdown" with more than 1A but is your risk and probably won't speed up the charging process by much.
Opt charger is 2A and should be enough to test a kennel tweak, again changing just the charger won't work.
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I wonder if it is possible to some how forcefully enable quick charging somehow.
fburgos said:
Quick charge/fast charge whatever you want to call it won't work, opt circuit/controller is designed for 1A current, it won't demand any more than that.
You can have a custom kernel that tells the controller to not "shutdown" with more than 1A but is your risk and probably won't speed up the charging process by much.
Opt charger is 2A and should be enough to test a kennel tweak, again changing just the charger won't work.
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How is OPT circuit designed for 1A?? then why would they make a 2A charger, that makes no sense.
Fast charging on nexus devices is a capability of usb-c, not snapdragon quickcharge.
So I think we need to reevaluate this..
Somebody needs to test with a 3A nexus charger and run ampere.
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I might be wrong in something.
I used ampere to "measure" the current always tops at 1090mA but with screen on, which also drains juice from charger.
Any way you need a custom kernel like boeffla to change the mA to charge I remember it tops at 2200mA
But a 3A charger like nexus will only supply what the device is demanding (2200 mA)
Fast charging on nexus it's a feature of charger and charger circuit, remember to have a puppies a ***** (female dog) needs to mate with a dog not a cat. You might force different species they could mate but won't breed.
You need any race of dog to have puppies.
The same you need any brand of 5V/3A charger for a nexus and you will have fast charge.
Opt don't have fast charge won't harm to try but don't buy the charger just to test borrow someone's
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Opt supports 5v 2amp charging on screen off.
Quick charge (Qualcomm quick charge®) is achieved raising voltage and not amperage (up to 20 volts, in qc3) and should be both hardware-supported and software-enabled since is the phone that asks the charger for a specific power level (volts-amps couple).
The real question is: is qc hardware supported on opt, and, if yes, could it be software enabled in some way in a custom kernel or so?
nielsscholte said:
Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
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You might blast your USB port if you are overcharging more than 2A.
demongokul said:
You might blast your USB port if you are overcharging more than 2A.
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thanks God someone replied, it's a shame that this does not contribute to the discussion in any way
I found an article that says that you need Qualcomm PMI8994 Power Management IC and SMB1351 (as well as snap 810 SoC) to get quick charge working... I can find the first in many teardown but I can't find the second, any idea? Maybe it has been replaced by another component or is it missing at all?
krishna442 said:
My OP2 charges in 1hr50mins to full.. I am satisfied with it.
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just 1hr 50 mins???.For me it is around 3 hrs to charge from 0 to 100%

Aukey PowerBank on Nexus 6p

I bought a powerbank aukey with quick charger. It hasn't a usb type C. Can I use this powerbank to charger the nexus without problems?
http://www.aukey.com/product/PB-T4 This is my powerBank
Yes you can it's what I use although when I first used it quick charge would work charge dead phone in an hour now 3 don't know if Android didn't like it having quick charge or that all three of my aukey chargers don't work even have used new certified cords.
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