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This is more of a review/comparison thread, as I am switching from RN2 to the Moto G. I gave RN2 a genuine try, used it for 3 months, tried stock ROM, Xiaomi.eu ROM, all Custom Roms but the battery was just bad and I got tired of waiting for kernel sources to assist development. This is not a troll thread, its a really genuine and honest review of the phone and why I switched to Moto G and how does it compare. I am using the Moto G 2015 16GB / 2GB RAM model - XT1550 so it is also dual SIM with SD slot like the RN2.
RN2
Good
- Cameras are excellent, better than Moto G both front and back
- Screen is beautiful and crisp, smooth to touch too it really felt premium.
- Big device but it fit in my hand nicely, was thin and well made, beautiful.
Bad
- Battery life is terrible, both on stock MIUI and on custom ROMs the best I got was about 1 day use and 2.5-3 hours SOT. And typical was about 2 hour SOT in 12 hours use. I am not heavy user but the screen/CPU is huge drain on battery nothing made it better.
- Heats up when gaming (e.g. Boom Beach for 15+ mins) or using GPS navigation in the car. Both use cases can bring battery from 100% to 0% in less than 4 hours. Crazy.
- Kernel sources no where to be found
Moto G
Good
- I find the smaller size to my liking, it fits in my hand nicely and the rubber back gives good grip, no case needed
- Battery is out of this world. I am getting 5 hours SOT over 24 hours use without even trying, if i try to be frugal will push it past 6 hours SOT and on days I don't use phone much I end day with 85% battery left. This is on Lollipop 5.1.1. When I install Marshmallow I expect this to go up even more! I am using all the same apps as the RN2 here. Same number of accounts and everything.
- Kernel sources and healthy dev community means I already have Marshmallow and even stock Android M is rolling out this week or next.
Bad
- Moto G's 720p panel feels like a downgrade, looks terrible compared to RN2 - this made me regret this decision the most but then the battery life reminded me it was still a good decision.
- Not good build quality compared to RN2 definitely feels worse.
Conclusion
- Xiaomi makes excellent phones but Mediatek X10 chip is very power hungry, Idle times were good but when in use battery dropped like a pack of cards. Xiaomi/Mediatek do not release kernel sources either.
- I will NEVER buy a Mediatek chipset phone again and will also avoid Xiaomi until they start releasing their kernel sources on day 1. Look at OnePlus, also a Chinese company but they release their sources immediately.
- I really wanted to like this phone and I did enjoy it but the battery life really killed it for me.
- Moto G is not my dream phone either but at least I no longer worry about battery life and it does not heat up like the RN2 when gaming. I will use it till I find something better. Maybe OnePlus 2 Mini that's coming next year.
Thanks for reading.
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I'm getting a decent 4-5h SoT using RN2 on bule's latest cm so it's not that bad. I never game just browse and youtube and reddit though. I do agree that not having released sources sucks so much but oh well
I got almost the same, from 4 to 5 h even 6:30 a few times in an older miui. The battery drain award goes to the screen, 1080 5,5". Moto g has an smaller hd display, is a real advantage.
Anyway my next phone could be an oneplus X
Ps: sorry for my english.
I have both smartphones and completely agree
I don't agree. RN2 doesn't make excellent photos, but have a good battery life like 4-5h SOT (both on stock MIUI and Custom Roms)
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
It would certainly be nice if Xiaomi supplied the source code, and, of course, they are also legally obligated to do so to some extent. But sadly there are not enough resources to challenge them on this. I wonder if pressure or urging by an organization like Google would help?
Whatever the case, the RN2 is a pretty nice piece of hardware, and certainly the best phone hardware-wise that I have owned personally. But the lack of source code means that we are destined to have mostly cooked roms, or roms that are buggy and not 100% functional because the developers are left guessing. To be honest, on seeing the initial release with 800,000 RN2s sold in 12 hours, and then the subsequent "x millions sold" milestones that were announced, I figured we would be in much better shape by now. But again, without source code, it is quite the folly. The sad part is that there are clearly people who are willing to invest the time/energy on this, but without proper source code, these developers will eventually give up, and turn their efforts elsewhere. Imagine if Xioami were to take advantage of this free workforce...
Like most of you, I also bought the RN2 for the price/performance ratio, which is unbeatable. But yeah, if we never reach top-notch firmware (which, admittedly, means different things to different people...), at what point would it be worth it to pay more for hardware that is completely documented? Before buying the RN2 Prime (I paid ~US$180), I contemplated the Motorola X Pure 32GB (~US$450). But the 2.5x price difference meant the cheapness factor won out. But now, after seeing the situation for a few months, I am reconsidering the investment. Sure, the 2.5x price difference is painful, but imagine having fully-documented hardware from the start like was the case with the Motorola. Certainly, the cheapness factor will be less of a consideration for me with my next phone purchase.
Paying 2.5x more just to have custom ROMs? That's crazy imo. I think I made the best decision when ordering a new phone and choosing this one. It's really fast and snappy, it simply does everything I need flawlessly.
Or you could go with Mi 4c if you wanted a Snapdragon device.
droidaem said:
Paying 2.5x more just to have custom ROMs? That's crazy imo. I think I made the best decision when ordering a new phone and choosing this one. It's really fast and snappy, it simply does everything I need flawlessly.
Or you could go with Mi 4c if you wanted a Snapdragon device.
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I bought the RN2 for AU$225. Managed to snap up the Moto G 2015 for AU$255 during Christmas sales, so I guess not much difference.
I would have kept the RN2 had the battery been good. But.. mine was terrible even though others here say theirs is good. This battery issue is being reported a lot on the MIUI forums it seems only some batches of batteries/phones are affected. I guess I was unlucky?
I've yet to have less than 4 hrs of SoT on my RN2 Prime. Both on MIUI and on CM.
Does the RN2 really have a better camera than the G though?
The G 2015 has a Sony IMX 214, which the OnePlus One, Nexus 6 and Mi Note Pro use.
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Paying 2.5x more just to have custom ROMs? That's crazy imo. I think I made the best decision when ordering a new phone and choosing this one. It's really fast and snappy, it simply does everything I need flawlessly. Or you could go with Mi 4c if you wanted a Snapdragon device.
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Fair enough, and I agree that 2.5x is significant--that's why the cheap side won out! But at some point, time matters, too. If you try rom after rom for months, and things still don't work, isn't that time/energy commitment that you made of some value (be it monetary or some other type of value)? I love tinkering just as much as the next guy, but certainly my perspective has changed through the years, and I don't have nearly as much free, burnable time as in the past!
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Fair enough, and I agree that 2.5x is significant--that's why the cheap side won out! But at some point, time matters, too. If you try rom after rom for months, and things still don't work, isn't that time/energy commitment that you made of some value (be it monetary or some other type of value)? I love tinkering just as much as the next guy, but certainly my perspective has changed through the years, and I don't have nearly as much free, burnable time as in the past!
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I'm honestly wondering, what did you find wrong in Bule's builds? They worked great for me, but I went to MIUI for its features.
I have not used Bule's builds at all--I admit it. I have just been following along on the weekly sMIUI builds until all the wrinkles get ironed out of the various CM options. It seems like they are almost there except for a few niggles like the notification light, the vibration, the issue with the sim slots, etc.. Once everything is working, I will migrate over. I find MIUI ok, but I would prefer something much lighter weight.
Camera is rubbish on RN2 and battery I agree if using it drains fast but I had let the phone sit there for days before with just the odd text I think the most I have gotten is 4-5 days the same with other phones if you start to play games or use gps it drains fast this is how smart phones are now but I do agree with mediatek are annoying not allowing people to have access to do more I bet so much could be done with kernal released
Angels and Demons ROM gives best SOT
You can install Angels and Demons ROM on your Redmi Note 2. It has over 5 hours Screen On Time.
Hello guys. İ want to buy note 4.
Whixh edition do you suggest?
Sdragon or exynos?
And can you tell me pros and cons for phone? İ read reviews buy i want real users feedback.
Do you suggest it for today? 2016 april.
Yes, I completely suggest it for today, in this time, especially the price is pretty cheap now.
Pros for me:
- Great camera in daylight, above average in low light
- Incredible display
- Superb call quality
- Very good built, though the metal edges will scratch in no time, but that's metal for you
- TouchWiz is okay-ish. Not bad, but not that good either, but with MM released things will get better I am sure
- Excellent battery backup, with MM
Cons:
- Samsung's shoddy update policy for different variants
- Camera in low light, can't compete in that level with nowadays phones like S7, Note 5 etc., but its still close
- Rear mounting speaker!
- Screen to body ratio
- Meh Fingerprint scanner
PS: You can go for either model, Exy or SD, both have very good support from XDA. I heard that Exynos is better for gaming, while SD is better for overall optimisation and battery life, can't be sure about that myself as I only have one variant, SD.
İ didnt understand update part. What about front camera?
İ am using nexus 5 , is it worth upgrade? And how much it cost now?
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Yes, I completely suggest it for today, in this time, especially the price is pretty cheap now.
Pros for me:
- Great camera in daylight, above average in low light
- Incredible display
- Superb call quality
- Very good built, though the metal edges will scratch in no time, but that's metal for you
- TouchWiz is okay-ish. Not bad, but not that good either, but with MM released things will get better I am sure
- Excellent battery backup, with MM
Cons:
- Samsung's shoddy update policy for different variants
- Camera in low light, can't compete in that level with nowadays phones like S7, Note 5 etc., but its still close
- Rear mounting speaker!
- Screen to body ratio
- Meh Fingerprint scanner
PS: You can go for either model, Exy or SD, both have very good support from XDA. I heard that Exynos is better for gaming, while SD is better for overall optimisation and battery life, can't be sure about that myself as I only have one variant, SD.
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Ehmedhemidli said:
İ didnt understand update part. What about front camera?
İ am using nexus 5 , is it worth upgrade? And how much it cost now?
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I don't use Front cam at all mate, so can't comment. Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned, I can't even put both the phones in same sentence, no offence.
Note 4 32 gigs cost around 32-33k INR here, but very often it sells around 30k or something.
Then i will go for note 4. And there is on more same price phone galaxy s6. İ dont know s6 is good too or not. İ hrard battery life is bad on s6
ithehappy said:
I don't use Front cam at all mate, so can't comment. Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned, I can't even put both the phones in same sentence, no offence.
Note 4 32 gigs cost around 32-33k INR here, but very often it sells around 30k or something.
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Both snap and exynos are powerfull. But in fact, through a lot of benchmark, exynos is better than snap, but just alittle bit. I'm also use the exynos version too. If you want to play game, should buy snap version. And if u want something for work, exynos is great.
P/s: one more thing u should no, exynos version is cooler than snap, snap is too hot after using for a while, and the battery of exynos version also better than snap version. Hope that you buy the phone suit for u.
ithehappy said:
I don't use Front cam at all mate, so can't comment. Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned, I can't even put both the phones in same sentence, no offence.
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Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned
What do you mean exactly?? because im a happy owner of a nexus 5 for 2plus years now and i can tell you for sure that i wont replace this crude diamond not even for a future s15 edge or anything.
Now for our friend's question. as u can see i allready own a nexus 5 like you, and i bought a N910c (thats the exynos) about 2 months ago. I DIDNT got this as a replacement for nexus,as the matter of fact i use it without sim. anyway my previous samsung device was back in 2012 with the NOTE 10.1 wifi... well after this i swore to myself that i wont buy a samsung again. But here i am after 4 years breaking that promise with spending 400euros to a piece of.......... imnot going to analyse this, do a better research to have lower chances to regret a purchase.(not like me)
My personal advice is to do your self a favor and dont buy this device or perhaps any mobile device from that company. -not for the hardware but for the software.-
and for your info nexus 5 runs way smoother than the exynos. maybe the snapdragon would be a better choice if u insist buying the note
lekou said:
Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned
What do you mean exactly?? because im a happy owner of a nexus 5 for 2plus years now and i can tell you for sure that i wont replace this crude diamond not even for a future s15 edge or anything.
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Shouldn't bother replying to a person who would prefer a decade old phone over a newer one, but still replying just so someone "new" and "uninformed" can actually see what Nexus 5 really is.
By nightmarish hardware I meant:
- It is one of the most awfully built device out there. Kudos LG.
- The call quality of the phone is awful, as well as the reception. I have never had a phone with as terrible reception as that, and please don't even bother wasting your time by saying I live in an industrial area or something where reception is poor, rather its very opposite.
- The display. No comments.
- The camera. No comments.
- The external speakerphone. No comments.
Shall I go on?
Nexus is Nexus because of its SOFTWARE ONLY, period, and no exception is Nexus 5.
lekou said:
Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned
What do you mean exactly?? because im a happy owner of a nexus 5 for 2plus years now and i can tell you for sure that i wont replace this crude diamond not even for a future s15 edge or anything.
Now for our friend's question. as u can see i allready own a nexus 5 like you, and i bought a N910c (thats the exynos) about 2 months ago. I DIDNT got this as a replacement for nexus,as the matter of fact i use it without sim. anyway my previous samsung device was back in 2012 with the NOTE 10.1 wifi... well after this i swore to myself that i wont buy a samsung again. But here i am after 4 years breaking that promise with spending 400euros to a piece of.......... imnot going to analyse this, do a better research to have lower chances to regret a purchase.(not like me)
My personal advice is to do your self a favor and dont buy this device or perhaps any mobile device from that company. -not for the hardware but for the software.-
and for your info nexus 5 runs way smoother than the exynos. maybe the snapdragon would be a better choice if u insist buying the note
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My nexus 5 is in very nad condition (glass broken, frame got big cracks, back cover damaged) battery life is 1.2-2 hours of on screen. Camera is very bad. İ cant take proper pictures.
And yes İt is smoother
sontran_vietnam said:
Both snap and exynos are powerfull. But in fact, through a lot of benchmark, exynos is better than snap, but just alittle bit. I'm also use the exynos version too. If you want to play game, should buy snap version. And if u want something for work, exynos is great.
P/s: one more thing u should no, exynos version is cooler than snap, snap is too hot after using for a while, and the battery of exynos version also better than snap version. Hope that you buy the phone suit for u.
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İ use phone taking photos, heavy use of messenger and facebook, whatsapp, chrome. Sometimes gaming.
Actually my nexus 5 will stay . i wont sell it.
İ will buy new note 4 exynos or whatever for daily use. Nexus 5 will be always like testing roms improving developing skills
Ehmedhemidli said:
İ use phone taking photos, heavy use of messenger and facebook, whatsapp, chrome. Sometimes gaming.
Actually my nexus 5 will stay . i wont sell it.
İ will buy new note 4 exynos or whatever for daily use. Nexus 5 will be always like testing roms improving developing skills
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Note 4 Exynos will be the best choice you can have, it's better than Snap one. ^^
Ehmedhemidli said:
Hello guys. İ want to buy note 4.
Whixh edition do you suggest?
Sdragon or exynos?.
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I would say you should wait until the Note 6 or 7. Or whatever comes next.
This one is still very expensive, and will not get any support whatsoever from now on.
It's a good device, NOW, but it costs so much you could just buy a Nexus 6P for example.
Or a Z5, M10, whatever. You get the point.
BUT, if you are some fanboy, here goes nothing...
Sdragon:
+ Faster 3D performance, better for gaming basically.
+ More roms/kernels. (though none of them will be as complete as stock)
Exynos:
+ Better battery life
+ Faster 2D performance
+ Faster performance (single, multi core)
- Games have crap framerates, see below.
I picked Exynos because I rarely play games.
If you check comparisons on Youtube, it beats Snapdragon by miles in any task, except 3D.
Framerate: Like Asphalt got... 20 or something it's real console like (eww). Modern Combat is also around 25 or so.
Too bad games on Android cannot scale down to 1080p or 720p, there is absolutely no point in having such a huge resolution for a game.
Other points - affects all Note 4:
Screen protectors are hard to find, you have to buy these "full display protectors", because of the curved glass. Just buy it on eBay and you are good.
Do NOT spend too much on cases. I bought Spigen, I bought all kinds of fancy cases. And guess what? The cheapest eBay case is the best. Not even kidding.
Metal cases, even if ONLY the frame is metal/aluminium, WILL BLOCK GPS signal. Not kidding.
When buying a case, make sure it protects the camera bulge.
Cases should have a WIDE left hole on bottom, because the microphone there can be on two positions. Mine is on the right. (SM-N910C)
No updates. MM is the last, we all know that. Even MM will take months to arrive to people.
There is no Theme Store or any new features that came with S6 and so on.
Battery life is not the best, it's around 1 days.
Bonus, you can use extended batteries. But then you lose the thinness of the device, which helps a lot when you carry it around. I have a ZL 10k mAh pack with the belt clip, it's a hassle to use.
Rooting is out of question if you want warranty. And all my Samsung Galaxy/Note devices had issues within the two first years, so I suggest you don't do it. Or get some nice insurance on your device, that might cover you. Or just save up some money, lol.
The list: S3 LTE, Note 2, S4, S4 Mini, Note 2014 10.1, Note 4.
One more thing. You may be able to buy the Snapdragon variant much cheaper. It's around 470$ here, but it's from the "gray market". It's boxed, new, but they only offer repairs by themselves, like you don't send it back to Samsung, but to the shop you bought it from.
Compared to this, the Exynos is 700$ or so. But this one comes with 2 years of original Samsung warranty.
Again, it's not the best solution, but there is a good chance you will not need a warranty repair.
h8Aramex said:
I would say you should wait until the Note 6 or 7. Or whatever comes next.
This one is still very expensive, and will not get any support whatsoever from now on.
It's a good device, NOW, but it costs so much you could just buy a Nexus 6P for example.
Or a Z5, M10, whatever. You get the point.
BUT, if you are some fanboy, here goes nothing...
Sdragon:
+ Faster 3D performance, better for gaming basically.
+ More roms/kernels. (though none of them will be as complete as stock)
Exynos:
+ Better battery life
+ Faster 2D performance
+ Faster performance (single, multi core)
- Games have crap framerates, see below.
I picked Exynos because I rarely play games.
If you check comparisons on Youtube, it beats Snapdragon by miles in any task, except 3D.
Framerate: Like Asphalt got... 20 or something it's real console like (eww). Modern Combat is also around 25 or so.
Too bad games on Android cannot scale down to 1080p or 720p, there is absolutely no point in having such a huge resolution for a game.
Other points - affects all Note 4:
Screen protectors are hard to find, you have to buy these "full display protectors", because of the curved glass. Just buy it on eBay and you are good.
Do NOT spend too much on cases. I bought Spigen, I bought all kinds of fancy cases. And guess what? The cheapest eBay case is the best. Not even kidding.
Metal cases, even if ONLY the frame is metal/aluminium, WILL BLOCK GPS signal. Not kidding.
When buying a case, make sure it protects the camera bulge.
Cases should have a WIDE left hole on bottom, because the microphone there can be on two positions. Mine is on the right. (SM-N910C)
No updates. MM is the last, we all know that. Even MM will take months to arrive to people.
There is no Theme Store or any new features that came with S6 and so on.
Battery life is not the best, it's around 1 days.
Bonus, you can use extended batteries. But then you lose the thinness of the device, which helps a lot when you carry it around. I have a ZL 10k mAh pack with the belt clip, it's a hassle to use.
Rooting is out of question if you want warranty. And all my Samsung Galaxy/Note devices had issues within the two first years, so I suggest you don't do it. Or get some nice insurance on your device, that might cover you. Or just save up some money, lol.
The list: S3 LTE, Note 2, S4, S4 Mini, Note 2014 10.1, Note 4.
One more thing. You may be able to buy the Snapdragon variant much cheaper. It's around 470$ here, but it's from the "gray market". It's boxed, new, but they only offer repairs by themselves, like you don't send it back to Samsung, but to the shop you bought it from.
Compared to this, the Exynos is 700$ or so. But this one comes with 2 years of original Samsung warranty.
Again, it's not the best solution, but there is a good chance you will not need a warranty repair.
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Whoa thanks for information. Look note 4 exynos is 430 dollar for us i think. İ cant wait for note 6 7 because they will be more expensive. And there is one more option to buy galaxy s6 (same price) . i hate sony devices same for htc.
My love is for nexus and samsung. 6p is expensive too.
Right now i got this choices(i am limited on money) (i will buy phone in july)
Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro 3gb
Galaxy Note 4 exynos
Galaxy s6
İ need battery peeformance , camera, multitasking . i dont care about games anyway (i got nexus 5 i can play games on them)
İ dont care about roms too.
Ao which choice should i take?
Ehmedhemidli said:
Whoa thanks for information.
Right now i got this choices(i am limited on money) (i will buy phone in july)
Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro 3gb
Galaxy Note 4 exynos
Galaxy s6
Ao which choice should i take?
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Well, update wise, anything is better than Samsung. (Just check Sammobile's comment section.)
Uhm... I would not buy a Xiaomi because of the bloated interface. That's the problem I have with Lenovo and other Chinese/cheap eastern devices. Like Lenovo put 4gb of ram into their device, made it very affordable, and killed it with a megabighuge UI. I don't know why.
What about the LG G4? (G5 is way too expensive.)
Flagships there receive updates for quite some time, and it's got a removable battery.
Just asking. Don't know about the SD808 performance.
By the way Sony used SD801 Pro in their Z3 series and that thing flies. It feels faster than my Exynos Note 4.
Again if you don't mind the no updates, you might be fine with the Note 4.
Remember years are A LOT of time in the smartphone world, especially if it's not a Nexus that gets updates, can be rooted, can be modded tons of ways.
There are a few roms for Exynos as well if you check the forum - mostly backported Note 5 ones, but I can't remember when was the time I ever used a stable rom. Maybe CM9 with the stable release - was kinda stable. But that's it. To me, it's a big letdown.
Like I am on the street, I have to make an emergency call, and I can't make calls.
I am on the road, need to make a quick map check, but can't because there is no GPS atm.
Want to browse some website real quick, it would be real important, can't because the mobile data is down currently.
And these happened at the most inconvenient times.
Ps.: If you are not real tech savvy, like my father, he is fine on KK. There is a newer update for his device, but on LL the call recorder crashed sometimes, phone lagged, etc. But he does not care, you know, he is totally fine with KK.
h8Aramex said:
Well, update wise, anything is better than Samsung. (Just check Sammobile's comment section.)
Uhm... I would not buy a Xiaomi because of the bloated interface. That's the problem I have with Lenovo and other Chinese/cheap eastern devices. Like Lenovo put 4gb of ram into their device, made it very affordable, and killed it with a megabighuge UI. I don't know why.
What about the LG G4? (G5 is way too expensive.)
Flagships there receive updates for quite some time, and it's got a removable battery.
Just asking. Don't know about the SD808 performance.
By the way Sony used SD801 Pro in their Z3 series and that thing flies. It feels faster than my Exynos Note 4.
Again if you don't mind the no updates, you might be fine with the Note 4.
Remember years are A LOT of time in the smartphone world, especially if it's not a Nexus that gets updates, can be rooted, can be modded tons of ways.
There are a few roms for Exynos as well if you check the forum - mostly backported Note 5 ones, but I can't remember when was the time I ever used a stable rom. Maybe CM9 with the stable release - was kinda stable. But that's it. To me, it's a big letdown.
Like I am on the street, I have to make an emergency call, and I can't make calls.
I am on the road, need to make a quick map check, but can't because there is no GPS atm.
Want to browse some website real quick, it would be real important, can't because the mobile data is down currently.
And these happened at the most inconvenient times.
Ps.: If you are not real tech savvy, like my father, he is fine on KK. There is a newer update for his device, but on LL the call recorder crashed sometimes, phone lagged, etc. But he does not care, you know, he is totally fine with KK.
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İ am confused.
Look. İ need bigger screen.
1 day full battery life (i charge it night, leave gome morning come back home night)
Camera quality
Multitasking without lag
İ dont care bloats or kitkat lollipop small bugs.
There is no phone with bugs anyway
Ehmedhemidli said:
İ am confused.
Look. İ need bigger screen.
1 day full battery life (i charge it night, leave gome morning come back home night)
Camera quality
Multitasking without lag
İ dont care bloats or kitkat lollipop small bugs.
There is no phone with bugs anyway
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Probably get a note 4 exynos and don't upgrade it, stay at kitkat 4.4.x
yesteryearisoverhere said:
Probably get a note 4 exynos and don't upgrade it, stay at kitkat 4.4.x
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Thanks. That will do
Hello,
I'm currently using the OP2 and was Planning to Upgrade to the Pixel.
But at that price point and with those huge bezels it is not a valid option anymore.
The OP2 is okay atm, but for my usage the battery life is horrible.
So i was thinking about buying the 6P or the OP3.
The OP3 has obviously better Specs but after owning the OP2 and seeing how they handle "Old" devices i dont know if i want to still support them.
So at the current price point is the 6P still a good device to buy?
Or do you guys have any other Suggestions in the price range 300-800€?
Thank You
Yes yes and yes. I bought one for 340 euros few days ago. Nice screen good camera stereo speakers and a nice metallic build for this price is a no-brainer. I won't even mention you can get many Pixel candies running on the 6P plus custom ROMs availability and all the goodness you can find here in XDA.
I recently switched back from a Huawei Mate 8( Screen cracked) and couldnt be happier. Especially if you were interested in the Pixel. You can turn your nexus devices and many more into a pixel outside of camera.
I got a 128gb for around 400 graphite color. Phone is still a beast. Sounds weird but I have to get use to 4hrs of sot again.
It will hold its value a couple more months. Plently of phones releasing next few months also.
I already have a 32go 6P, and I am on the fence to get myself a 128go for travels when I cannot count on the cloud for backups. I use the camera a lot every day, and I guess traveling abroad more frequently makes this purchase adequate. I don't see any reason why I should buy a Pixel XL as the price of the 6P was already high last year. And I already have a oneplus 3 with the SD820 & uefs 2.0. Ok it is noticeable, fast and all but the 810 chip isn't that bad as it has been described. I remember reading from Anandtech that it was the best implementation of this chipset, and it is true. Yeah it has turned hot, at times of heavy usage, lot of photography editing and pictures taking, but that's expected. So... I'd still recommend one, at least, one gets a wonderful 5.7 inches wide screen plus two front facing speakers and soon the same features thanks to the XDA community.
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I recently switched back from a Huawei Mate 8( Screen cracked) and couldnt be happier. Especially if you were interested in the Pixel. You can turn your nexus devices and many more into a pixel outside of camera.
I got a 128gb for around 400 graphite color. Phone is still a beast. Sounds weird but I have to get use to 4hrs of sot again.
It will hold its value a couple more months. Plently of phones releasing next few months also.
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At the end of the day how much battery do you have left with normal usage? (reply to messages, web and daily tasks)
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At the end of the day how much battery do you have left with normal usage? (reply to messages, web and daily tasks)
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Normal day would get me through a work day easily.
I am a heavy media/web user. On my off days easily 7am till 10pm(typically when I'm sitting still) without a charge.
My work days are what I test. Unplug at 6am stream music/podcast/YouTube from 9-6 off and on using bluetooth. Lots of regular everyday browsing and 1-2hrs of talk time. Normally last %15 around 6pm. Haven't died on me yet while out and about but I adjust my usage naturally.
My usage is heavier at moment, renovating a house so I'm non stop browsing looking for ideals and deals. Birthdays, trip upcoming and holidays so every things ramped up. Nothing beats the mate 8 but I get home with more battery than my wife's note 5 and she's on wifi while out.
As of now im at %54 with 2 hrs of sot. Phones been off charger since 5am.
I forgot about these damn speakers. I always forget to charge my lg headset and was doomed with previous phone. I put the 6p in a metal bowl and speakers are loud and clear with music.
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More then Ever. Get it.
It's a fantastic phone. Only one I've liked better is Note 7, and you can't go that route. The camera is really, really good, I think it lacks credit there because of previous Nexus phones. The rest is crazy ROM selection, mods that will bring you Pixel goodness at less price and nougat. What's not to like?
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The Nexus6P has a lot of longevity left in it! Happy flashing...
Yes it is. My old G3 died late last month and I replaced it with a 128GB P6. I couldn't be happier with it; and given the crazy price points on the Pixel, I'm glad the G3 died when it did.
I got mine on the note 7 recall day and im loving it! Almost forgot about the s-pen
So did you bought the nexus 6p?
I'm currently in the same situation as you. I'm getting tired of my one plus 2. Found one Nexus 6P for 300€ with light usage, and I'm seriously thinking in buying it. Should I go for it?
I also want to buy one but I'm afraid of bootloop and battery errors. Please advise me! Thanks so murch.
I currently have a Nextbit Robin and am looking for an upgrade. My biggest issue with the Robin is battery, so obviously this phone caught my eye with its cheap price, great specs, and huge battery. Is it worth it, especially with most of these devices being new in box for 200-?
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I currently have a Nextbit Robin and am looking for an upgrade. My biggest issue with the Robin is battery, so obviously this phone caught my eye with its cheap price, great specs, and huge battery. Is it worth it, especially with most of these devices being new in box for 200-?
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Only if you're willing to run custom firmware, LeEco made the interface literally to sell "Chinese Netflix" and other LeEco services and it's as atrocious as that sounds.
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Yeah, you'll probably want to flash Lineage or any other ROM on it if you're coming from the Robin, which is running actually good software compared to eUI. Even MIUI and EMUI are better than eUI, IMO. Just be careful where you buy the phone from, because you're buying a phone from an essentially dead company that has since left North America. You won't get a good warranty on any LeEco phone unless you're buying it from an official vendor (LeEco US, Flipkart, etc.)
If you want a phone similar to the Robin but with decent specs (let's face it, the 808 is a horrdenous chipset), get a Mi A1 (stock Android), or a G5S Plus if you're in the U.S. Both can be had for $200 USD or slightly more.
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Yeah, you'll probably want to flash Lineage or any other ROM on it if you're coming from the Robin, which is running actually good software compared to eUI. Even MIUI and EMUI are better than eUI, IMO. Just be careful where you buy the phone from, because you're buying a phone from an essentially dead company that has since left North America. You won't get a good warranty on any LeEco phone unless you're buying it from an official vendor (LeEco US, Flipkart, etc.)
If you want a phone similar to the Robin but with decent specs (let's face it, the 808 is a horrdenous chipset), get a Mi A1 (stock Android), or a G5S Plus if you're in the U.S. Both can be had for $200 USD or slightly more.
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I'd pick something else besides Lineage, because kernel development and ROM optimization gives you better battery life on some other ROMs. If he's switching devices for battery life, Lineage will nix that quite a bit. I'm grateful that they are always first with a new android version though.
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You can buy a coolpad changer s1 that is the same phone of lepro3 but with a coolpad software
venezolano69 said:
You can buy a coolpad changer s1 that is the same phone of lepro3 but with a coolpad software
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The S1 is around 2x the price of the LePro3 where I am and also does not support any of the US LTE bands.
If you want a phone with big battery I recomand Lenovo P2 with 5000 mah it will last you like a week if you use it light or around 3 days normal use.
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If you want a phone with big battery I recomand Lenovo P2 with 5000 mah it will last you like a week if you use it light or around 3 days normal use.
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You offering a guy bigger, wider, fatter phone, with way less proccessing power, worse camera and arguably design, all this for extra 1000mah? No thank you, 4000 is more than enough for me
The guy said he wants a phone with a big battery. If he doesn't want a phone with a powerful cpu made by a company that is almost bankrupt and is possible that we don't see any upgrade to nougat, that lenovo is the best battery phone on gsmarena and for a normal people is ok. Not everybody is a gamer or capable to install custom roms. Maybe he wants a phone with ota updates. I change in my le pro 3 like 15 times the rom and I didn't find a perfect one.
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The guy said he wants a phone with a big battery. If he doesn't want a phone with a powerful cpu made by a company that is almost bankrupt and is possible that we don't see any upgrade to nougat, that lenovo is the best battery phone on gsmarena and for a normal people is ok. Not everybody is a gamer or capable to install custom roms. Maybe he wants a phone with ota updates. I change in my le pro 3 like 15 times the rom and I didn't find a perfect one.
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I completely understand where youre coming from, but to be 100% honest I definitely wouldn't go for that phone. I am perfectly fine with installing a custom ROM, because ATM it's the only way to be stable on the Robin. But as the person before you said, I'm not willing to get even less performance than my current device just for battery that lasts 3 days instead of 2. All I really need is a phone that can get 3rs of SOT with my usage, and my Robin can barely get 1.75 hours.
+I wouldnt be able to get the P2 in the first place, only supports 1 of T-Mobile's LTE bands, and the band it supports isn't widely available in my area.
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The guy said he wants a phone with a big battery. If he doesn't want a phone with a powerful cpu made by a company that is almost bankrupt and is possible that we don't see any upgrade to nougat, that lenovo is the best battery phone on gsmarena and for a normal people is ok. Not everybody is a gamer or capable to install custom roms. Maybe he wants a phone with ota updates. I change in my le pro 3 like 15 times the rom and I didn't find a perfect one.
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The guy said he wants a phone with good specs, cheap price and big battery. Maybe you should read better
Phones with good specs, cheap and big batteries... humm... and I want a beautiful girl, with good looks, and a big perfect round pack of batteries that stays young forever. But it doesnt exist. Why do you think that big companies doesnt make flagships with big batteries? Is bad for business. If such phone exist people would keep them longer and wouldn't buy new phones. So they make phones with small batteries. They die in less then 2 years and you would buy a new phone. Phones today even does't have changeble batteries.
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Phones with good specs, cheap and big batteries... humm... and I want a beautiful girl, with good looks, and a big perfect round pack of batteries that stays young forever. But it doesnt exist. Why do you think that big companies doesnt make flagships with big batteries? Is bad for business. If such phone exist people would keep them longer and wouldn't buy new phones. So they make phones with small batteries. They die in less then 2 years and you would buy a new phone. Phones today even does't have changeble batteries.
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I dont even know what are you talking about here. But le pro 3 IS cheap, last generation soc flagship, and huge battery.
le pro 3 is cheap, agree, last generation specs, no way, 2 generations behind, 835 and 845 that will come. huge battery? no. is a normal battery for a 5.5 inch phonein my oppinion. huge battery would mean 5-6-7000 mah. And don't forget the cherry, no support from manufactor. Even phones with really bad specs like 1 gb ram and some poor mtk soc and they have nougat or even programmed to oreo. I was stuck on my last phone a Lenovo many years with a kitcat and i really dont like companies that do hit and run. they sell you a good phone and forget about you and the support.
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le pro 3 is cheap, agree, last generation specs, no way, 2 generations behind, 835 and 845 that will come. huge battery? no. is a normal battery for a 5.5 inch phonein my oppinion. huge battery would mean 5-6-7000 mah. And don't forget the cherry, no support from manufactor. Even phones with really bad specs like 1 gb ram and some poor mtk soc and they have nougat or even programmed to oreo. I was stuck on my last phone a Lenovo many years with a kitcat and i really dont like companies that do hit and run. they sell you a good phone and forget about you and the support.
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Its only your speculation so far, nothing constructive. Spec wise it IS last generation as i said, because only newer soc from qualcomm is 835, yes 845, 855 and so on will come, but as of this moment it is last generation. About battery again, it is big, huge whatever you call it, because no phone fom current flagships has such capacity, most 5.5 inchers range from 3000 to 3600, look at pixels, lg, galaxies and so on. Anyways this is pointless, cause all you do here is bash leeco, like you have some personal agenda against it. No one talked about after sales support or said it was important factor
I din't said that my le pro 3 is bad. But It has it's own good points, and bad points. When someone wants to buy it, it should know what are those points.
This brick has a huge battery. All curent flagships from Iphone to samsung and miaomi have small bateries. Le pro 3 has normal battery for a phone with snapdragon 821 and 5.5 screen.
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I din't said that my le pro 3 is bad. But It has it's own good points, and bad points. When someone wants to buy it, it should know what are those points.
This brick has a huge battery. All curent flagships from Iphone to samsung and miaomi have small bateries. Le pro 3 has normal battery for a phone with snapdragon 821 and 5.5 screen.
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If over 90% of smartphones this size have upto 3600mah batteries, then its not small, its industry standart, and if you have a bigger one, that means your battery is big, not normal. Just because some chinese crap has 6000 or 10000mah doesnt mean that 4000mah suddenly becomes only "normal".
Hold on a second, this may be a dumb question, but is the bootloader on the LEX727 unlockable?
Since I'm in the US and the 727 is the only model that supports all 3 of T-Mobile's bands, it's really my only option. I just dug up a old post that says the bootloader can't be unlocked, and if that's true it looks like I'll be getting a different phone.
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Hold on a second, this may be a dumb question, but is the bootloader on the LEX727 unlockable?
Since I'm in the US and the 727 is the only model that supports all 3 of T-Mobile's bands, it's really my only option. I just dug up a old post that says the bootloader can't be unlocked, and if that's true it looks like I'll be getting a different phone.
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It can be unlocked now. Out of the box it's locked but it's fairly simple to unlock after flashing a file...
Coming from the Robin is definitely a nice upgrade, X727 works great at TMO, all 3 bands plus wifi-calling, havent looked at VOLTE since I install PA, butl the custom ROMs available have some type of little issue mostly with audio, my USB cable gave me problems right out of the box. Choosing a new phone I'd definitely go 820/821 chipset or higher.
Which phone will be more long lasting in terms that it will not slow down after Android or Interface (Samsung Experience, One UI) upgrades?
I'm looking between these 2 phones for the one that will have a better CHANCE for lasting 5 years being as quick and as “battery life good” AS POSSIBLE.
I think all of us know that the OEMs make our phones slower by patches, upgrades with attached algorithms to slowly month after month (so we couldn’t notice) shorten the battery life, slower the speed and make battery consumption bigger with sole intention for us to buy a new model next year or in the next 2 years.
BTW I don’t need the Pen and I don’t play any games and I don’t need a super good cam. EDIT: no rooting and no custom romming for me on that device for ever.
If I don't need the Pen why to bother with Note you may ask?
Well, I hope that Note being the business phone is going to be treated better by Samsung in the above terms than a Galaxy S phone, but maybe it’s the other way around?
What do You think?
No Android phone will last you 5 years without feeling crippled.
Besides that, you don't sound like you need a Note at all and the Note doesn't get any specific treatment from Samsung, it has older components, it is less popular, it is worse in literally everything by being a generation behind.
I don't know your prices, but if price is not an issue then get the S10+ and stop worrying for at least 3 years, I'm easily getting 12-14h SoT whenever I want to, the battery is great and we still have to get plenty of updates.
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No Android phone will last you 5 years without feeling crippled.
Besides that, you don't sound like you need a Note at all and the Note doesn't get any specific treatment from Samsung, it has older components, it is less popular, it is worse in literally everything by being a generation behind.
I don't know your prices, but if price is not an issue then get the S10+ and stop worrying for at least 3 years, I'm easily getting 12-14h SoT whenever I want to, the battery is great and we still have to get plenty of updates.
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Thank You
I value Your opinion but during years I saw plenty of comments and sellers claiming that Note is better cause aimed for business. The comparison was always like this :Galaxy S(gen) with Note(gen-1)
From the beginning till Note8 it the above scenario Note was always more expensive on premiere day.
But this year S10+ prices was 26 USD more than Note's 9 on premiere day - sad to say (for Note fans) maybe somethings wrong is about to go down like no more busyness phone treatment for Note series.
But I still do believe that Note is somehow treated better but after that price reversal I wanted toread what You think.
What do You think about that dangerous Pie+oneUI update (dangerous because look what it did to my S8)? - that's in Note 9 case.
PLEASE USERS tell me what You think of all of this???
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Thank You
I value Your opinion but during years I saw plenty of comments and sellers claiming that Note is better cause aimed for business. The comparison was always like this :Galaxy S(gen) with Note(gen-1)
From the beginning till Note8 it the above scenario Note was always more expensive on premiere day.
But this year S10+ prices was 26 USD more than Note's 9 on premiere day - sad to say (for Note fans) maybe somethings wrong is about to go down like no more busyness phone treatment for Note series.
But I still do believe that Note is somehow treated better but after that price reversal I wanted toread what You think.
What do You think about that dangerous Pie+oneUI update (dangerous because look what it did to my S8)? - that's in Note 9 case.
PLEASE USERS tell me what You think of all of this???
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What happened to your S8?
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What happened to your S8?
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When I updated trough OTA from Android 8.0 with Samsung Exp. to Android 9 Pie + One UI the pros: battery consumption went at least 3 times(!!!) the cons: S8 started lagging, microfreezing, isntt as smooth and speedy as its used to be, despite:
- very low amount of foreign apps that I installed since buying
- frequent restarts of phone as recommended
- phone has never been rooter or custom rommed
I use a phone as a main work tool, replaced a lap top a long time ago.
The note has one advantage, in meetings you are writing on your phone and no one bats an eye lid, use an S9 and use your finger to tap on it you are stared at horribly, like you are the devil
As for this deliberate slowing down of phones, well it's massively exaggerated imo and it's obvious older phones with less memory and slower CPUs will struggle with large updates. This is now a myth imo, relevant at some point but you are still using an Iphone3 are you? You move on and with 8gb memory and fast CPU it will still be going strong before you can say S15 yes please
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Davey Dual Sim said:
I use a phone as a main work tool, replaced a lap top a long time ago.
The not has one advantage, in meetings you are writing on your phone and no one bats an eye lid, use an S9 and use your finger to tap on it you are stared at horribly, like you are the devil
As for this deliberate slowing down of phones, well it's massively exaggerated imo and it's obvious older phones with less memory and slower CPUs will struggle with large updates. This is now a myth imo, relevant at some point but you are still using an Iphone3 are you? You move on and with 8gb memory and fast CPU it will still be going strong before you can say S15 yes please
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+! thanks points! for You!
The info about Note and S9 and eye-stare will be helpful.
How about when I use a S9 with a stylus pen instead of a finger?
As for deliberate slowing down pf phones..... I like Your attitude although I don't agree with your point of view cause when You really look at the bigger picture not only from Samsung's stand point but other brands, Google as Android manufactuer, the early 1900's story of bulbs, modern cars, everything and you return later form this wide picture to Samsung''s perspective with all that's been happening everywhere a person that is well oriented in mobile stuff and can even do some tests by himself can CLEARly see that phones are deliberately being slown down. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge for instance could handle Android Pie with ease as well much more next ones if it weren't for that sad practice - of course AS LONG AS there would be no new hardware required new software feature(s) without which the Android future release would loose it's main event special funcionality.
However. I would like to hear what You and other have to say about it, cause I can see that people here make very interesting points and not often a major myth is being discovered thanks to our conversations.
Please enjoy and come in everyone
BTW is norma S10 without PLUS even a contender for Note9?
Kind people of XDA hellp me make a decision please. Write what you think
Ohh I forgot to mention this will be a snack for these users that want 2 phones S10+ and Note9, here it is:
due to debut of S10 and finished preorder selling (mainly due to that) and perhaps the Huawei danger of P30/P30 Pro Samsung decided to:
- lower the price of Note 9,
- sell it with payback in some areas and/or other bonuses
- all color versions are acceptable
- the normal model with 128 GB of internal storage is 100% under the obove rules I don't know if the special ones are.
Can You help me pick up a winner in this fight. Every reply is welcome. Every argument is needed! Please respond!
I have both devices. Battery better on the S10+. Screen better. Speed faster. Unlocks quicker and easier for me, lighter, thinner, sound is much louder , camera gas the wife mode, selfie is better. The only thing I am [not] missing is the s pen.
I had the note 9, and just got my s10 plus yesterday. There is absolutely no comparison camera wise. My note 9 was horrendous, and in any sunny out door setting it would blow out the highlights and over expose. The hdr function was **** too. S10 plus is the best phone I've ever used
I have both also but Ive only had the S10 plus for a few days so I cant make a detailed comparison yet.
What I will say is the ultrasonic fingerprint scanner on the S10 needs more development..its terrible.
Hardly ever unlocks the first try and is slow when it does unlock. My Note 9 unlocks the first time every time and is instant.
Im sure sammy will improve the function with software updates but even after a few days the S10 plus is annoying me due to this.
I also miss being able to use face unlock on the S10 due to having to wear surgical gloves at work it is handy at tines, they really should have left the retina scanner on the device.
Unlocking your phone is a basic function and should work flawlessly, its just not there yet on the S10 IMO.
@ekerbuddyeker @sstanton86 @force70
You folks literaly came from thy sky for me with your outstanding answers (You all get +1 T of course).
I am now in a serious peril: S10+ costs the same from the day of pre-order, Note9's price is still significant but it dropped to 90% of it's launch price plus it has a payback promotion making the price drop to the 80% of Note9's premiere price.
I also found a shop with the last new Note8s for 51% launch price of Note9.
I'm so confused now, what would you advice me in this situation?
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@[email protected]@force70
You folks literaly came from thy sky for me with your outstanding answers (You all get +1 T of course).
I am now in a serious peril: S10+ costs the same from the day of pre-order, Note9's price is still significant but it dropped to 90% of it's launch price plus it has a payback promotion making the price drop to the 80% of Note9's premiere price.
I also found a shop with the last new Note8s for 51% launch price of Note9.
I'm so confused now, what would you advice me in this situation?
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Id rule out the the note 8, i had an S8 plus but the fingerprint scanner was in an absolutely idiotic place beside the camera, Note 8 isn't much better. Also it does not have stereo speakers.
For me at the moment I prefer my Note 9 still to the S10 plus and if in a few weeks I'm still not liking the S10 plus ill get rid of it.
In favour of the S10 plus is the camera set up, louder speakers and it is more comfortable in hand. Newer hardware as well of course.
I mean you really cannot go wrong with either and Im nitpicking the S10 plus really lol.
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Id rule out the the note 8, i had an S8 plus but the fingerprint scanner was in an absolutely idiotic place beside the camera, Note 8 isn't much better. Also it does not have stereo speakers.
For me at the moment I prefer my Note 9 still to the S10 plus and if in a few weeks I'm still not liking the S10 plus ill get rid of it.
In favour of the S10 plus is the camera set up, louder speakers and it is more comfortable in hand. Newer hardware as well of course.
I mean you really cannot go wrong with either and Im nitpicking the S10 plus really lol.
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"nitpicking" - maybe you thought of not picking.
The reason I mentioned Note8 is that I just want to expriance that phone for a while and probably sell it after 3 months or who knows, everyone claims that I could get addicted to Note and never buy anything else....
I will test a bunch of flagships from many brands like Huawei, Samsung, LG, Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo and then decide which is the one for me. I bet it could be a Note vs. S10+ vs. a ..... Xiaomi (!!!!)
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Ohh I forgot to mention this will be a snack for these users that want 2 phones S10+ and Note9, here it is:
due to debut of S10 and finished preorder selling (mainly due to that) and perhaps the Huawei danger of P30/P30 Pro Samsung decided to:
- lower the price of Note 9,
- sell it with payback in some areas and/or other bonuses
- all color versions are acceptable
- the normal model with 128 GB of internal storage is 100% under the obove rules I don't know if the special ones are.
Can You help me pick up a winner in this fight. Every reply is welcome. Every argument is needed! Please respond!
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Well man the Note 9 is now 7 months old and it is about £300 cheaper than the S10+
I don't think any 2018 Exynos device is good for that price, the SoC was just badly made, they tried to fix it with Pie but there's not much left to be done.
If we rule out the Note 9 for it being an older device and overall a worse deal, the S10+ wins for:
Thinner
Better cameras
Better power management
Better thermals
Subjectively better design
Superior panel and HDR+
SoC that isn't bad at all, and has plenty of software improvement room
More RAM on base models
Will soon get dedicated night mode and 25W charging if you care about that
Could be one of the last flagships with a headphone jack
AI implementation to adapt the phone to your usage
Gorilla Glass 6
Safer fingerprint authentication that can't be physically hacked with glue
You can get it for £800 as a student
I was very tempted to buy the Note 9 when it came out, right now it feels like a stupid choice, I'd feel bad for owning it knowing I gave up on all those improvements from the next generation.
Mobile phones can be seen as a remote extension of our nervous system due to all the things they allow us to do better and faster, I would never cheap out on such day to day element, the Note 9 isn't bad but it feels wrong to me.
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Well man the Note 9 is now 7 months old and it is about £300 cheaper than the S10+
I don't think any 2018 Exynos device is good for that price, the SoC was just badly made, they tried to fix it with Pie but there's not much left to be done.
If we rule out the Note 9 for it being an older device and overall a worse deal, the S10+ wins for:
Thinner
Better cameras
Better power management
Better thermals
Subjectively better design
Superior panel and HDR+
SoC that isn't bad at all, and has plenty of software improvement room
More RAM on base models
Will soon get dedicated night mode and 25W charging if you care about that
Could be one of the last flagships with a headphone jack
AI implementation to adapt the phone to your usage
Gorilla Glass 6
Safer fingerprint authentication that can't be physically hacked with glue
You can get it for £800 as a student
I was very tempted to buy the Note 9 when it came out, right now it feels like a stupid choice, I'd feel bad for owning it knowing I gave up on all those improvements from the next generation.
Mobile phones can be seen as a remote extension of our nervous system due to all the things they allow us to do better and faster, I would never cheap out on such day to day element, the Note 9 isn't bad but it feels wrong to me.
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+ 1 Thanks!
1. It's amazing how we agree on the importance of a smartphone. I always tell the people who don't want to "waste" their money for a flagship that the phone is like a third hand, you need to have it as good as possible.
2. I feel being now really drawn more and more after each reply in this S10+ Forum.
3. So You think that Note9 has a bad Exynos?
4. How about Note8 that I could have for 51% of the launch prize of Note9?
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+ 1 Thanks!
1. It's amazing how we agree on the importance of a smartphone. I always tell the people who don't want to "waste" their money for a flagship that the phone is like a third hand, you need to have it as good as possible.
2. I feel being now really drawn more and more after each reply in this S10+ Forum.
3. So You think that Note9 has a bad Exynos?
4. How about Note8 that I could have for 51% of the launch prize of Note9?
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That Exynos is quite bad, yeah.
The Note 8 on the other hand is not just slower than that Exynos, sure it's cheaper but they easily get burn-in, I saw many S8 and Note 8 screens having burned notification and nav bars, sometimes the whole facebook interface was there :laugh: it's also reaching end of life regarding major software updates, Pie is its last stop.
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That Exynos is quite bad, yeah.
The Note 8 on the other hand is not just slower than that Exynos, sure it's cheaper but they easily get burn-in, I saw many S8 and Note 8 screens having burned notification and nav bars, sometimes the whole facebook interface was there :laugh: it's also reaching end of life regarding major software updates, Pie is its last stop.
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1. Since Note's are business phones I think Samsung will give them longer time for security patches and probably +1 more Android update in compare with the Galaxy S series.
2. Note's are for businessman and You might think that they will change it every September for a new one cause they can simply afford it but I strangely enough they somehow get used to one and stay on him. I witnessed a guy that came down to the mall's electronic shop with the best Samsung device ever (Note 4) and with sad face told the sellers that he thinks it's time to change his Note4 for a newer Note because ........ damn I can't remember that cause I was so shocked.
3. Business man don't really care about having the best or latest phone. The don't have the teens or women's addiction to shopping and having everything new.
4. Businessman have a lot more on their heads than worry about a phone and I think that Samsung realizes it and that's why a Note would win in terms of longevity with a Galaxy S.
5. I am the kind of man that will not get screen burned out - too long story. Just believe me that this argument is not for me.
6.. Now it's up to which Note shall I buy. Cause S10+ will be bought eventually during 12to24 months.
7. Note8 is so cheap that I could make my dreams come true and test every brand like I mentioned a couple of posts before.
8. Please don't give up and try to fight for Note9 or Note8 or against them., cause if I don't buy any of them I could quicker roll over the competition phones by saving the money that I have for Note8/Note9.