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Does that amazon video or prime work still once rooted? If not is there a way to work around it? I really want the android market but don't want to lose my month trial for prime which I'm using now.
How do you get vod or amazon prime video to work once rooted? I'm not rooted yet but taking the plunge tonight. BTW, What thread should I follow to root my KF and then install all the google apps?
Have a few more questions.
What launchers work on the KF? ADW, LP,etc.?
All keyboards work?
Is there any way to text on the kindle? That would help me so much.
What email apps do you reccomend, the stock email app is not agreeing with me.
Last.is there anyway to print from the kindle to my wireless printer?
There are tons of threads already answering most of these questions. Try a search first.
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bal1985 said:
How do you get vod or amazon prime video to work once rooted? I'm not rooted yet but taking the plunge tonight. BTW, What thread should I follow to root my KF and then install all the google apps?
Have a few more questions.
What launchers work on the KF? ADW, LP,etc.?
All keyboards work?
Is there any way to text on the kindle? That would help me so much.
What email apps do you reccomend, the stock email app is not agreeing with me.
Last.is there anyway to print from the kindle to my wireless printer?
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Amazon videos do not work while rooted. Simply keep your kindle fire unrooted when you're using it, as it won't affect your ability to use apps and settings configured during root.
No keyboards work currently. The fire has no official Bluetooth, though a there does seem to be a Bluetooth radio on the board. No one is sure at this time if it can be activated.
No one has been able to make Skype work for voice yet, but I believe you can text using it. I have not tested it though.
I think most of the launchers work though I only have experience with go launcher ex, which works great.
if you aren't rooted, you can use Kaiten Mail for most of your pop accounts. I use touchdown for my outlook mail but its a paid app. If you have rooted, you can install the standard Gmail app.
I have side loaded both the HP eprint local app and an app called Cloud Print that can use Google's cloud print service. Both work fine on my fire.
I installed "ota rootkeeper" via android market.. it makes a backup of your root in case an ota update deroots you. also it has a function where it can temporarily deroot you.. I used that and rebooted the kindle once and now I can play amazon prime videos again. and the apps I installed via android market all still work
After you temp deroot, You don't need to reboot the Kindle Fire to do that. Just stop the VOD service (Amazon Video), and it will work then.
After you restart the Amazon Video app, you can even reroot using the OTA Rootkeeper app and the Video will still work. This will probably work until the Video app is restarted or the Kindle is restarted -- whichever comes first.
I am a total newbie, so please bear with me. I had never heard of rooting a phone until I got the Galaxy S4 i337. I saw that the Golden Eye was good for starters, so that is what I put on my phone. I followed directions to the letter and it worked perfectly!!! So thanks for that. Anyway, now that I have it rooted, I noticed a couple things that don't work. The screen mirroring is one of them. I have a friend with an unrooted S4 Active that can see me on the network (I was sitting right next to him) but when he tried to connect, it failed. He also could mirror his phone to the TV. When I pull up screen mirroring, it says that there are no devices to connect to. I didn't know if that was right with this rom, or maybe a setting I haven't found yet. I also have the active apps widget and Greenify to let me know what apps are running, but when I go into the ram manager and hit clear memory, it tells me anywhere from 20-35 apps were killed, and this is when I am not even using the phone. I can do it again 10 minutes later and it says it still killed a bunch of apps. I thought rooting my phone was supposed to help with that, no? And if not, what would you recommend for an app to help. Maybe a different rom would be better? My concern has been with the battery not lasting very long. Thanks!!!
traderkat64 said:
I am a total newbie, so please bear with me. I had never heard of rooting a phone until I got the Galaxy S4 i337. I saw that the Golden Eye was good for starters, so that is what I put on my phone. I followed directions to the letter and it worked perfectly!!! So thanks for that. Anyway, now that I have it rooted, I noticed a couple things that don't work. The screen mirroring is one of them. I have a friend with an unrooted S4 Active that can see me on the network (I was sitting right next to him) but when he tried to connect, it failed. He also could mirror his phone to the TV. When I pull up screen mirroring, it says that there are no devices to connect to. I didn't know if that was right with this rom, or maybe a setting I haven't found yet. I also have the active apps widget and Greenify to let me know what apps are running, but when I go into the ram manager and hit clear memory, it tells me anywhere from 20-35 apps were killed, and this is when I am not even using the phone. I can do it again 10 minutes later and it says it still killed a bunch of apps. I thought rooting my phone was supposed to help with that, no? And if not, what would you recommend for an app to help. Maybe a different rom would be better? My concern has been with the battery not lasting very long. Thanks!!!
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Goldeneye is a very good rom for beginners & vets alike. I would recommend it to anyone as far as that goes. But to answer your question you would need to install the addons called Samsung crap pack in the addon section in op. He took out those apk's because a lot of people prefer not to have all those features for whatever reasons so he just added a flashable zip in the addons for those that do.
Now as far as apps running in the background you would need apps like greenify or titanium backup to freeze those apps that u don't want running in background. Or if there are apps that you simply don't even want you can just delete them with tb or app called Nobloat in play store. Just an FYI, I would freeze them first for a little while to make sure they don't interfere or cause issues with rom. Also can do the same with the CP zip after install use nobloat to delete extra Samsung apks you don't want or use.
Hope this helps you out man & Great choice for a rom btw, you will be pleased with it :thumbup:
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Thanks!!! I didn't know the screen mirroring was a Samsung app since it was still on my phone.
I have Greenify, but it only allows me to hibernate a few apps. I have done that to all of the ones allowed and still get 20-30 apps killed when I hit the clear memory on the other app. I will try the other one you mentioned and see if that works better. Again, thanks!!!! I have been enjoying the Golden Eye so far!
traderkat64 said:
Thanks!!! I didn't know the screen mirroring was a Samsung app since it was still on my phone.
I have Greenify, but it only allows me to hibernate a few apps. I have done that to all of the ones allowed and still get 20-30 apps killed when I hit the clear memory on the other app. I will try the other one you mentioned and see if that works better. Again, thanks!!!! I have been enjoying the Golden Eye so far!
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GoldenEye is a GREAT ROM, and yes you need the Samsung Crappack addons for some features to work. I also recommend Titanium Backup Pro; its worth the dough. Below is a full list of services you can safely freeze (originally from UCUAMDL AT&T firmware, but many services are still in Goldeneye), anything Samsung is in the Crappack. Just freeze whatever you dont use.
Great choice again.
Titanium Backup Freeze list...
AllShare ControlShare Service
AllShare FileShare Service
AT&T DriveMode
AT&T FamilyMap
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Locker
AT&T Navigator
AT&T Smart Wi-Fi
DirectShare Manager
EasyMode
EpsonPrintService
FaceUnlock
FlipBoard
Gmail (i use K-9 to get them from my own servers)
Google Play Books
Google Play Magazines
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Play services
Google Search 1.0 (widget bar icon)
Google Search 2.5.8xxx (big blue 'G' icon)
Google+
Group Play
HolaARM6
HP Print Service
Kies via Wi-Fi
Mobile Print
Mobile TV
MobilePrintSvc_CUPS
MobilePrintSvc_CUPS_Backend
MyAT&T
S Health
S Voice
Samsung Apps
Samsung Apps Widget
Samsung Calender SyncAdapter
Samsung Cloud Data Relay
Samsung Cloud Quota
Samsung Contact SyncAdapter
Samsung Games
Samsung Knox
Samsung Music
Samsung Keyboard
Samsung Print Service
Samsung Push Service
Samsung WatchOn
SNS (facebook, i dont use it)
Swype
TouchWiz Home (use another launcher first!)
Wallet (doesn't work on mine and nowhere to use it)
Yahoo! Finance
Yahoo! News
YP Mobile
Wow! Thanks for that list. I am going to download Titanium now. Thanks again you all have been a huge help!! :victory:
What is this? What does it do?
I've used my free time to create a noob friendly program to complete task. It can uninstall all Amazon Bloatware. It can also Install Google, Google Chrome, and Google photos. It can install Launcher hijack as well with Nova Launcher WITH widgets WORKING. This has been tested MANY times and confirmed to work on the Fire 7. This can also remove special offers
.
WARNING
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE. A FACTORY RESET WILL UNDO ALL CHANGES MADE.
Please do not PM me. Post in the forum and quote me if you need help. This way, everybody will receive the information.
Compatibility
This is for Windows only. I have no interest whatsoever do code this for Linux. If you want to port it, go ahead!
Please use Root Junky's Super Tool to install Amazon Drivers on Windows if it isn't working for you. I didn't need to install but you may need to. Click here to download it.
Why Google Photos and Google App?
This tool will install Google Photos because the remove Amazon Bloatware option will uninstall Amazon Photos. You will be using Google Photos instead. In the Camera app, in the bottom right corner where there is a preview, if you press it, it will go right to the Google Photos app if you used the uninstall Amazon Bloat Option.
This also installs the Google App too. Why? In Nova Launcher when you press the Quick Search bar, It will go to the Google App. Only if you use the uninstall Amazon Bloat option. How? It will uninstall the Unified Search package, so it will go to the Google app.
This no longer works on Fire OS 5.4.0.1 unfortunately, the uninstall method has been patched
Click here for the download link
There has been an article featuring my tool. If you want to check it out - link is here.
https://liliputing.com/2017/07/fire-tablet-tool-makes-hacking-amazons-2017-tablets-easier.html
Also I want you to know, if you choose to remove bloat, it will remove every Amazon app exept for the Camera, meaning you will be left with Camera and Settings left on your home screen.
Works, thanks.
Few comments:
If Windows doesn't have the amazon drivers, it won't work.
Installing Google Play Services and Chrome was expected, but it also added Google Photos and Google App.
Either mention it or don't include the last two.
Also, why are you saying to re-install Google Play Services even if they've been installed before?
worked on 5.4.0.0
thanks!
Robius said:
Works, thanks.
Few comments:
If Windows doesn't have the amazon drivers, it won't work.
Installing Google Play Services and Chrome was expected, but it also added Google Photos and Google App.
Either mention it or don't include the last two.
Also, why are you saying to re-install Google Play Services even if they've been installed before?
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I am sorry. It installes Google Photos because the camera app is still there after uninstall. It uninstalls Amazon Photos and you need a photos app to veiw the pictures you took.
It won't reinstall the Google Play apps but it will install Google for you
It installs the Google App because it removes unified search which means on Nova Launcher the Google Search bar actually goes to Google Now instead of the Amazon Search. I am sorry for not mentioning it. I will edit the post.
Thanks!!! used to install google play apps, and installed nova launcher, but the home button is broken though. I wonder if there's any fix for that...
(Gen 5 amazon fire 7, running 5.4.0)
ravenchaser210 said:
Thanks!!! used to install google play apps, and installed nova launcher, but the home button is broken though. I wonder if there's any fix for that...
(Gen 5 amazon fire 7, running 5.4.0)
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Really? I tested this and my homebutton is fine, Are you sure you are on the Fire 5th Generation?
Check in settings > device options > and find where it says device model.
Does it say "Fire (5th Generation" without quotes? it yes, please factory reset and try again.
savvytechwinner said:
Really? I tested this and my homebutton is fine, Are you sure you are on the Fire 5th Generation?
Check in settings > device options > and find where it says device model.
Does it say "Fire (5th Generation" without quotes? it yes, please factory reset and try again.
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thanks, factory reset and it's working perfectly now, thanks!!
savvytechwinner said:
What is this? What does it do?
I've used my free time to create a noob friendly program to complete task. It can uninstall all Amazon Bloatware. It can also Install Google, Google Chrome, and Google photos. It can install Launcher hijack as well with Nova Launcher WITH widgets WORKING. This has been tested MANY times and confirmed to work on the Fire 7. This can also remove special offers
.
WARNING
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE. A FACTORY RESET WILL UNDO ALL CHANGES MADE.
Please do not PM me. Post in the forum and quote me if you need help. This way, everybody will receive the information.
Compatibility
This is for Windows only. I have no interest whatsoever do code this for Linux. If you want to port it, go ahead!
Please use Root Junky's Super Tool to install Amazon Drivers on Windows if it isn't working for you. I didn't need to install but you may need to. Click here to download it.
Why Google Photos and Google App?
This tool will install Google Photos because the remove Amazon Bloatware option will uninstall Amazon Photos. You will be using Google Photos instead. In the Camera app, in the bottom right corner where there is a preview, if you press it, it will go right to the Google Photos app if you used the uninstall Amazon Bloat Option.
This also installs the Google App too. Why? In Nova Launcher when you press the Quick Search bar, It will go to the Google App. Only if you use the uninstall Amazon Bloat option. How? It will uninstall the Unified Search package, so it will go to the Google app.
Download Link
Since the Files are 101 MB I am posting a Google Drive Link shared to the public. Here is the link.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4GUCBOVtmvPeGtwQ3kxWjdHSWs
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v5.3.2.1 tested. Work ok, but go back to original after factory reset.
Just got my 8" with 5.4.0 in the mail yesterday. Updated 9 system updates first, then used this tool.
Everything worked fine. Nova works, google playstore and apps working. No ads on the lockscreen.
The bloat removal actually removed more things than I wanted it to, so I did a factory reset and went into the bat and took out some of the apps that I wanted to stay. Works like a charm.
theflathead said:
Just got my 8" with 5.4.0 in the mail yesterday. Updated 9 system updates first, then used this tool.
Everything worked fine. Nova works, google playstore and apps working. No ads on the lockscreen.
The bloat removal actually removed more things than I wanted it to, so I did a factory reset and went into the bat and took out some of the apps that I wanted to stay. Works like a charm.
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Keep in mind this tool doesn't actually remove system (most preinstalled) apps; it simply makes them unavailable and thus invisible to the current user. Akin to drawing the shades when you don't like the weather. The actions are reversible...albeit unlikely if OTA updates are blocked unless Amazon has another back-channel communication mechanism.
Davey126 said:
...albeit unlikely if OTA updates are blocked unless Amazon has another back-channel communication mechanism.
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Ahem...Guest account
DragonFire1024 said:
Ahem...Guest account
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Oh...
On the Fire 7 there is no guest account, it listed the accounts, no guest one for me
You are using the FIRE 8 HD which does have it I think
I agree, as I say in the tool, OTA REMOVAL is not confirmed.
savvytechwinner said:
Boi...
On the Fire 7 there is no guest account, it listed the accounts, NO guest one.
YOU are using the FIRE 8 HD which does have it.
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That makes no sense to not have one then and have one now.
DragonFire1024 said:
That makes no sense to not have one then and have one now.
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On your Fire 8 HD there is a guess account
on the Fire 7 (5th Generation) there isn't a guest account
at least on my tablet, plus I don't even think the guest account is active. But it could be, no garentee
savvytechwinner said:
On your Fire 8 HD there is a guess account
on the Fire 7 (5th Generation) there isn't a guest account
at least on my tablet, plus I don't even think the guest account is active. But it could be, no garentee
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It's under settings, users in activity launcher. Something activated it and I don't know what. Perhaps it's only available before everything is disabled. Either way, I see it in the user list, but I haven't been able to activate it again or for that matter disable it. Im likely to do another reset in the next day or so now that the kinks are being worked out. Hopefully the last one for a bit.
Back to wallpapers...the permission to run live wallpapers is already active in at least my tablet, of course in the damn system. I don't get Amazon. They don't want us to use them, but give the permission to, just not the APKs. They basically consider widgets a sin, but give you the activation script in front of your face. Makes me wonder if they really are sloppy, or there's a silent revolt going on internally. Either way those are pretty lame mistakes. I wonder how they're taking this being able to disable their apps.
DragonFire1024 said:
Back to wallpapers...the permission to run live wallpapers is already active in at least my tablet, of course in the damn system. I don't get Amazon. They don't want us to use them, but give the permission to, just not the APKs. They basically consider widgets a sin, but give you the activation script in front of your face. Makes me wonder if they really are sloppy, or there's a silent revolt going on internally. Either way those are pretty lame mistakes. I wonder how they're taking this being able to disable their apps.
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- this is an Amazon centric appliance - not a general purpose Android device
- 'good enough' probably comes into play (time/budget constraints)
- a minute sliver of Fire 7 owners will attempt to uninstall core Amazon apps unless it becomes bulletproof w/substantial advantages and no side effects
Love posts like this that pit a virtual army of heroic XDA script kiddies against evil Amazon engineers in an epic battle to control a dime store gizmo. Magnify the real business impact 1000X and you might score a footnote in some unread briefing.
Davey126 said:
- this is an Amazon centric appliance - not a general purpose Android device
- 'good enough' probably comes into play (time/budget constraints)
- a minute sliver of Fire 7 owners will attempt to uninstall core Amazon apps unless it becomes bulletproof w/substantial advantages and no side effects
Love posts like this that pit a virtual army of heroic XDA script kiddies against evil Amazon engineers in an epic battle to control a dime store gizmo. Magnify the real business impact 1000X and you might score a footnote in some unread briefing.
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Who ever said anything about being a hero much less anything about Amazon being evil? Dime store or 5th Avenue...what difference does it make? I believe we should have the freedom to control what we rightfully own. Whatever comes of this, or that, or whatever we do, so be it. If it makes a dozen or so people a lot happier with a product they own, and that's considered 'heroic', then ok. Call it what you like. I can't count the times I've stated this is fun for me and a learning experience.
But hey, you have a good story line in a plot that goes beyond Amazon. Sounds like something I'd want to read about anyways. It's one of many battles. Small as it may be, a win is a win.
EDIT: Amazon just customized it. Within a matter of days, we've but thrown out much of that customization. When, or if we ever get root, I'd much like to spend time actually customizing it myself. Much of it can be undone by simple edits if you know where to make them. I've learned a lot in the past week, where many of those edits can be made.
theflathead, is your new Fire 8 the 7th Gen Fire HD 8?
theflathead said:
Just got my 8" with 5.4.0 in the mail yesterday. Updated 9 system updates first, then used this tool.
Everything worked fine. Nova works, google playstore and apps working. No ads on the lockscreen.
The bloat removal actually removed more things than I wanted it to, so I did a factory reset and went into the bat and took out some of the apps that I wanted to stay. Works like a charm.
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Did you do this on a NEW FIRE HD 8, 7th Generation???
You said you just got it, and so did I, got the OS upgrade to 5.4.0, and hoping I can use this approach. Thanks in advance. . .
Paul
I just did it on my 7th Gen, blue 7" Amazon Kindle and everything worked. You have to read the directions and go to accessbility settings and enable detecting home button press, otherwise the home button won't work on the launcher.
I woke up today to find my tablet on the table with the screen on and a weird new lockscreen with some spam about hints on how to use Alexa. I guess my tablet had updated a few minutes before I got up and so the screen was on.
Because my tablet was previously rooted and I disabled the stock launcher and was using Nova, I was unable to get out of the lock screen. Pressing home did nothing nor did swiping from any direction. Funny enough too, the lockscreen was saying how to use Alexa but on my device purchased in Japan, Alexa i completely missing even from a stock install which is just insult to injury.
Anyway, I am looking for a way to remedy this hopefully without a reinstall. My initial thought was to re-root and re-disable the stock launcher giving Nova control again, if possible. However, I am unsure if the usual rooting method works on this version. I can't even re-enable the stock launcher without root (I think) so I guess if I lost root I will have to do a reinstall to get back to stock?
Does yours have your home buttons/top bar? Mine disappeared with the update and now the only way to get back to my home screen is to reboot my fire entirely!
taiyoko said:
Does yours have your home buttons/top bar?
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Yes. I was still able to use the device with those functions but it's incredibly inconvenient. Would a reboot help with anything?
I was looking at another thread in the help section, and apparently my nav/notification bars being missing is some sort of compatibility problem with 5.6.2.0 and Nova Launcher.
uninstall nova via adb
I think I figured it out but this won't work for everyone. After opening settings using the pull down notification menu, this reenabled the recent apps which allowed me to open Nova launcher. I rerooted using the offline method here https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-offline-rooting-t3734860 which thankfully still works. After that I was able to use Titanium backup to freeze the new "Launcher 1.0........".
Everything is now running like before the update.
yoflo said:
I think I figured it out but this won't work for everyone. After opening settings using the pull down notification menu, this reenabled the recent apps which allowed me to open Nova launcher. I rerooted using the offline method here https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-offline-rooting-t3734860 which thankfully still works. After that I was able to use Titanium backup to freeze the new "Launcher 1.0........".
Everything is now running like before the update.
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Not able to disable the stock launcher with the old method, pm disable, once you have root?
EDIT: Was finally able to try some stuff on my tablet. I was able to get root due to your method you linked, which BIG thank you by the way as that method is way less fishy than Kingroot nonsense, and was able to disable the launcher with the "pm disable com.amazon.paladin" command. Seems like they gave their new launcher the name Paladin.
And I'm back to Nova launcher! Thanks so much.
REMOVED
I'm just hoping the new version doesn't make it even harder to root the 8. It's already seeming hopeless. I had updates blocked at the router level. It updated at work.
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stew1411 said:
I'm just hoping the new version doesn't make it even harder to root the 8. It's already seeming hopeless. I had updates blocked at the router level. It updated at work.
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DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk will update the tablet even if blocked at that level. Amazon uses several IPs which change often. You have to disable that apk or completely removed it. You can try NetGuard firewall. You have to buy the features, but it allows you to block individual IPs. On my HD 8, before I posted a guide on how to disable system apps on 5.4.0.0, at one point I had a dozen or more IPs blocked through NetGuard. It will take time to tinker with all it's features, but I don't regret buying them.
Ugh, me too!
No notification bar.
I'm unclear as to what I can do to remedy this.
I have Nova Launcher running and I am a novice.
Can someone please tell me what to do?
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OK, update...
So, I restarted a couple of times, and like the third time I restarted, another update applied and a video about "Show Mode" displayed. I sped to the end of it.
I also (previously) turned off "Show Mode" on the lockscreen.
Then, I backed-up my Nova and shared it via Gmail.
Suddenly, the navigation buttons on the bottom appeared and the notification bar showed.
Does that mean it got fixed (somehow) with that orange-screened update that showed upon restarting?
Also, how can I halt any further updates?
When I received the 5.6.2.0 update, I had the same problem of no pull-down menu and no navigation buttons. I had previously installed Google Play, Nova and LauncherHijack. I did not have root. I called Amazon tech support and the guy connected with their MayDay remote assistance program, so I'm sure he could see I was running Google and Nova. We went thru several reboots and checked settings, but he was still stumped. Finally we did a factory reset and reapplied the 5.6.2.0. update and it started working. I have since reinstall Google Play, Nova and LauncherHijack and everything is running fine. My suspicion is that LauncherHijack is blocking the complete install. I read another post that exactly described this issue. In that case the user uninstalled Nova and LauncherHijack and powered off and back on. The installation then continued and when completed, the Show Mode video ran. I contacted the author of LauncherHijack and he said he would check it when he got the update.
Bottom line--if your tablet updates to 5.6.2.0 but the Show Mode video does not appear, the installation has failed/hung before it completed (even if it says the update completed). If you have LauncherHijack installed, try uninstalling it, cycle power and see if that fixes the problem.
I know this won't work for everyone but I was lucky enough to manage to access the Play Store when I noticed this happened on my HD10 and saw that the last app updated was amazon alexa under "Recently Updated" in the "My Apps and Games" section. I hit uninstall and rebooted. Show mode setup then came up normally after reboot and after the setup process for that everything worked normally again. Re-updated alexa and everything is working perfectly now. This worked for me so it's worth a shot but I might have just gotten lucky.
I got the orange screen, rebooted, still had it, tried several times locking and unlocking and kinda fiddling around, from the lock screen pulled the little "tag" icon (swipe for offers I think?)
At some point I was able to get into my email client (type mail) but only had a back button, no home or task buttons. Restarted again, same kind of fiddling around, and somehow it ended up playing the video. Skipped to the end, disabled Alexa when prompted and ended up on my normal home screen with all three nav buttons. Everything seems to be back to normal now. FYI, I'm running Nova, launcher hijack, all the standard Google apps including play store, and I didn't have to uninstall anything. I wish I knew the exact sequence that got it to work, but I'm really not sure... Maybe it wasn't even anything I did? Maybe it was just taking time downloading that obnoxious video?
It is nerve-wracking when something like this comes up knowing that they could push an update that messes everything up and there's basically nothing we can do about it.
I really really hope we can get root on this device
NFSP G35 said:
I really really hope we can get root on this device
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You can just re-root it.
autobulb said:
You can just re-root it.
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I thought there wasn't any root on the HD 8? Did I miss something???
NFSP G35 said:
I thought there wasn't any root on the HD 8? Did I miss something???
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Ah sorry, my device is the HD10. You're right, HD8 doesn't have root.
autobulb said:
Ah sorry, my device is the HD10. You're right, HD8 doesn't have root.
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Why are these devices lumped together when they are clearly very different?
n3wt said:
Why are these devices lumped together when they are clearly very different?
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That's just the way the XDA forum was set up unfortunately. Sometimes similar devices are put together in the same forum and the users are expected to be clear about which device they are talking about.
A Solution - At Least For Me!
autobulb said:
I woke up today to find my tablet on the table with the screen on and a weird new lockscreen with some spam about hints on how to use Alexa. I guess my tablet had updated a few minutes before I got up and so the screen was on.
Because my tablet was previously rooted and I disabled the stock launcher and was using Nova, I was unable to get out of the lock screen. Pressing home did nothing nor did swiping from any direction. Funny enough too, the lockscreen was saying how to use Alexa but on my device purchased in Japan, Alexa i completely missing even from a stock install which is just insult to injury.
Anyway, I am looking for a way to remedy this hopefully without a reinstall. My initial thought was to re-root and re-disable the stock launcher giving Nova control again, if possible. However, I am unsure if the usual rooting method works on this version. I can't even re-enable the stock launcher without root (I think) so I guess if I lost root I will have to do a reinstall to get back to stock?
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I found a simple way around it - if rooted.
I had to re-root, but that wasn't too difficult using existing resources.
Through some trial and error I figured out "com.amazon.paladin" is linked to the Alexa/Show Launcher (that's what I'm calling it at this point).
You can disable it with the following via ADB. It should revert back to your default launcher.
I also had Nova Launcher installed, so I disabled the stock launcher (the second pm line below).
Code:
adb shell
$ su
# pm disable com.amazon.paladin
# pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher
I bought a Fire HD 8 (2018) for my mother, she basically uses her phone/tablet for YouTube, Gmail, browsing, pictures. What is she really going to miss out on if I give her the tablet with stock firmware? Is sideloading not an option at all on stock? I'm looking at the steps for modding the device, seems like too much trouble for how she would use it. Any insight is appreciated.
Rooting for her use sounds like it'd create more problems than it'd fix.
I'd recommend sideloading the playstore, and disabling any of the Amazon features she won't use that use system resources. You can see what's using memory in settings. I'd also recommend disabling the lockscreen ads. The windows fire toolbox can help get this all done quickly.
You could also use launcher hijack to use Nova Launcher instead of fire launcher to give a more familiar homescreen.
Sideloading works fine in the stock Fire OS. It just helps to have a file manager installed, but that can be done later.
I agree with just adding the Play Store to give her the apps not available in the Amazon App Store - like the YouTube app. Just follow the instructions for downloading through the Silk Browser and install from the notification pulldown.
In fact, I wouldn't bother doing anything else to the tablet related to the Amazon stuff. Just leave it as is. The interface, while not typical for android in general, is not difficult to navigate. It's really easy. In fact, I'm pretty sure you can add her Gmail account to the stock Amazon Email app.
My wife's HD8 (7th Gen) is stock Fire OS with just the Play Store added. Works fine.
Now, for my HD8 (8th Gen), I did add use LauncherHijack to use the Nova Launcher, but that's just me. I haven't disabled anything else Amazon related. I did add the BlackBerry Hub+ suite to use for my email, calendar, contacts and notes.
Thanks for the input. We have the Canadian model of the tablet which I believe is ad-free already. Installing Nova Launcher would be good since that's what she's used to on her phone.
fattest said:
Thanks for the input. We have the Canadian model of the tablet which I believe is ad-free already. Installing Nova Launcher would be good since that's what she's used to on her phone.
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Based on what you wrote, it seems the best solution is:
(1). Install Nova Launcher
(2). Disable Fire Launcher after obtaining a temporary root. After Fire Launcher is disabled, the newly install Nova Launcher will be the default launcher.
Here is the guide to obtain a temporary root:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd...xperimental-software-root-hd-8-hd-10-t3904595
All you really need is to install LauncherHijack and then set it for Nova Launcher. No need for any root... temporary or otherwise.
The thread on it is the following...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/launcher-root-launcher-hijack-v2-t3561026
Although, Amazon apparently sent updates to their tablets to block that app early last month, but it didn't go out all at once. It finally disabled mine just last weekend.
But, one user was able to rename the package to get it working again. Check post #395 in that thread to get the modified package app if the latest original doesn't work.
Thanks everyone, will try this today.