A while back there was a rumor that the video camera was still in the 8525 but they just covered it up with the new silver bezel - anybody care to dismantle to prove/disprove this rumor?
Why would they cover it?
Seemed silly to me to but there were rumors 3 or 4 weeks ago that's what they did. I think the basics of it was that their network wasn't up to snuff for the video so they covered the camera (being cheaper then redesign?) so people wouldn't complain about the extra camera which they couldn't use. I think it's bunk but curious - I don't recommend anybody tear apart their 8525 - I doubt it's there but if you're feeling reckless and want to destroy your new $600 toy - let me know if you find the camera!
It is possible.
chymmylt said:
Seemed silly to me to but there were rumors 3 or 4 weeks ago that's what they did. I think the basics of it was that their network wasn't up to snuff for the video so they covered the camera (being cheaper then redesign?) so people wouldn't complain about the extra camera which they couldn't use. I think it's bunk but curious - I don't recommend anybody tear apart their 8525 - I doubt it's there but if you're feeling reckless and want to destroy your new $600 toy - let me know if you find the camera!
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Now I'm just wondering whether some of the more expert folks here could work this one out without dismantling. The coolcamera programme can utilise the front camera as a webcam. Obviously there would be no picture if the camera is covered but I wonder what the programme will do if the camera is not present. Clearly a message saying camera not present would be handy but if it freezes or behaves strangely (some error message) that might be another bit of evidence suggesting the camera is absent. Perhaps someone with device could try using coolcamera to see what happens on front camera setting?
Just a thought
Mike
That's a great idea.
I just tried what you guys suggested with the coolcamera app and when I switched the sensor from main to front, I got a black screen. Of course this would make sense since it is covered up but I didn't get any error message.
Today while looking at the phone more closely, I noticed there is sort've a "flatness" or outline on the bezel where the front camera would be.
I'm a believer that the camera is still present on the phone...just disabled and covered up by the metal bezel on the 8525. I also agree with the fact it wouldn't make sense to redesign the phone just to remove the camera. Instead they could do it cosmetically, in this case, with the metal bezel that is on the 8525.
Assuming that the camera is still present, I'm hoping that a third party company (or HTC) can make a replacement bezel with the front camera opening.
That is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't break open those 8525s just yet...
Notice that even when you completely cover the main camera lens, you can still see colors when you cycle through the special effects (sepia, cool, negative). When you switch to the front camera and cycle effects, you get nothing (the screen never changes from black). If the front camera were present, the negative effect at least would be dramatic.
-Sar
Good point Sarumiso. I just tried changing the effects and nothing changed. It could mean that the camera is just disabled, though. Won't know for sure until someone opens up their phone.
cellnut said:
Good point Sarumiso. I just tried changing the effects and nothing changed. It could mean that the camera is just disabled, though. Won't know for sure until someone opens up their phone.
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Good points being made. An error message might at least have suggested camera is not present, unfortunately no errors does not prove things one way or the other.
Mike
so im an avid 8125 guy with my 8525 on the way, will be here tomorrow... anyway, lets pretend for a moment the cam is there, then its more than likely disabled in the cingular rom... would it be possible to flash an actual tytn rom to get the front camera support, then try the testing with the software and cycling through the colors? just a thought
cellnut said:
I just tried what you guys suggested with the coolcamera app and when I switched the sensor from main to front, I got a black screen. Of course this would make sense since it is covered up but I didn't get any error message.
Today while looking at the phone more closely, I noticed there is sort've a "flatness" or outline on the bezel where the front camera would be.
I'm a believer that the camera is still present on the phone...just disabled and covered up by the metal bezel on the 8525. I also agree with the fact it wouldn't make sense to redesign the phone just to remove the camera. Instead they could do it cosmetically, in this case, with the metal bezel that is on the 8525.
Assuming that the camera is still present, I'm hoping that a third party company (or HTC) can make a replacement bezel with the front camera opening.
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Or just take a dremel to it.
here is an idea... is the service manual out there? like one specifically for the 8525, it may tell whether it exists or not. or what company actually does the repairs for the 8525, maybe we contact them and find out... or if all else fails then the manual would give instructions on how to take it apart...
"...anyway, lets pretend for a moment the cam is there, then its more than likely disabled in the cingular rom... would it be possible to flash an actual tytn rom to get the front camera support, then try the testing with the software and cycling through the colors?..."
shogunmark---will you be testing this theory of yours? I would try this myself but I'm too much of a nb to even attempt changing the ROM. Have to read up on all the how to threads. =)
well, i probably will, but its gonna a little while before i can do that, i havent even gotten my 8525 yet, fedex says it will be here tomorrow... i have alot more reading to do though... i am very familiar with cooking roms for my 8125, but from what i read so far it seems like the 8525 is a different animal entirely, so with my busy life its gonna take at least a week or 2 of reading before i make the venture
I've removed the two screws from the other side of the screen. Pried open the display case and bottom of it to about 1/8" and I could see that my phone does NOT have the front facing camera. It has the place for it, but definitely no camera. Would be nice to compare the Tytn's ie/mail/led pcb with the 8525s to see how they differ.
already done: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284384
I've created a full housing swap to include the fron camera on my 8525. Tutorial includes full instructions with pictures included. See link below
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1152710&page=1&pp=15
so im an avid 8125 guy with my 8525 on the way, will be here tomorrow... anyway, lets pretend for a moment the cam is there, then its more than likely disabled in the cingular rom... would it be possible to flash an actual tytn rom to get the front camera support, then try the testing with the software and cycling through the colors? just a thought
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I have everything ready to do this. Camera installed and all. I have unlocked my phone to update to any rom. I'm willing to give this a shot. I just need to know if I where to get the ROm to download. Tis swap is a compete resemblance of the Japanese versionof my 8525, its the htc Z from Japan. http://www.japan.htc.com/product_htcz.htm . I dont know if there is an english versionof this rom to download. I'm ready to do this for everyone I just need direction
It's a shame that those of us that do have the front facing camera that the phone lacks a front facing flash or LED. Would be very handy otherwise those times when the urge comes for yet another self portrait and it happens to be night . . .
(We do not have 3G here in Oman.)
I am thinking of giving my Tilt, with camera, to a friend when I upgrade.
His work doesn't allow camera phones so I need a battery cover for the non camera model to cover the camera.
Does anyone have one for sale or know where to buy one?
Thanks
You might have trouble finding those--the non camera phones are rare enough, let alone extra backplates. You could always cut out/patch/tape over the camera area, although that would not look too attractive I have an extra regular one, but no plain one, sorry
Thanks for the reply.
My friend found a used no camera model (8900).
The only problem is that it came with the normal camera back cover so it still looks like it has a camera.
Hi ! I`ve dropped my S4 on the floor the other day and since then i noticed that my front camera fails to focus. It`s something like 1/4 of the image is being focused while the rest is blurry. The whole image does become clearer if i put an object in front of the camera at about 2-4cm.
Is there a possibility that the little flex cable jumped out of its socket? Or is the camera broken ?
Either way i`m hoping that someone could PM me with a few links on sites like ebay.com or ebay.co.uk with what i should buy to replace or fix the camera.
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Anyone ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-New-Fro...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item19e04a4e4c
For a start...
I need a new camera module/replacement. Got my note 4 and the rear camera is just wtf. Wont focus at all past a few inches and is horribly blurry. Read on androidforums.com a lot of people had the same problem but simply got a device swap from their carrier. Seeing as I got it from amazon (for AT&T service) I cant take it back to the store and honestly would rather replace it than go through that hassle. So where can I find a legit sony 16mp back cam for it and also are there any instructions on how to replace it?
NexusS4gFreak said:
I need a new camera module/replacement. Got my note 4 and the rear camera is just wtf. Wont focus at all past a few inches and is horribly blurry. Read on androidforums.com a lot of people had the same problem but simply got a device swap from their carrier. Seeing as I got it from amazon (for AT&T service) I cant take it back to the store and honestly would rather replace it than go through that hassle. So where can I find a legit sony 16mp back cam for it and also are there any instructions on how to replace it?
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My Ph-1 was very broken. However after spending some time in a draw I decided to give it a new lease of life. Last piece of the puzzle is the rear cameras. I've looked everywhere I can think and even started looking at other phones that use the same image sensor to see if it uses the same part.
I imagine the answer is no. But does anyone know anywhere selling a replacement for the rear camera?
Ibanez33 said:
My Ph-1 was very broken. However after spending some time in a draw I decided to give it a new lease of life. Last piece of the puzzle is the rear cameras. I've looked everywhere I can think and even started looking at other phones that use the same image sensor to see if it uses the same part.
I imagine the answer is no. But does anyone know anywhere selling a replacement for the rear camera?
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you maye have luck on amazon. ebays probably a better bet tho.
g.l.