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AOKP - Requests for development (Th3Bill's rom)

Well guys we have a pretty good chance to include everything (...what is possible) we ever wanted on our Atrix...
in an other thread th3bill (the dev. behind AOKP milestone 6 port) opened there were alot of request for features on the next builds, th3bill offered to open a discusion which include all requests in one place.
** Th3bill, we love your work and your willing to do for others. your private time "wasted" on porting and developing is not ovious and we do appriciate it. keep on the excellent work and again a major thank, us - the users.
since nobody did it so far i'll start:
i whould like the next build to include:
1. call recording option.
2. video call option.
3. webtop interface?
4. google music.
5. led color control in order to customize notifications.
6. o.c kernel.
7. some other cpu governors.
8. google's android jellybean featuers? espacially build-in voice recognition.
things to fix (what i've noticed):
1. video cam - known problem.
2. browser issus (fc when changing ls and portrait).
3. edit custom brightness levels (fc).
4. can't change signal and wifi colors.
5. also battery bar won't show up.
6. wifi direct won't work.
7. wifi hot spot works and immidiatly stops(maybe it's just my device).
-By now your port is the best rom my atrix had so...big thanks !!!
-I know you working too hard already (DON'T FORGET TO HAVE FUN !!, i wrote all of the things i think can be added. with or without them it is still almost perfect.
guys it is your turn now...make some suggestions for improvement:

Hey Everyone!
I'm sure most of you know me by now. Those of you who do not, I am NOT the type of rom porter who gets upset by questions/requests/PMs. Just understand that I build 3 builds of MIUI (Photon, Atrix, Infuse), 2 builds of AOKP (Photon, Atrix), 2 builds of Paranoid Android (Photon, Atrix), as well as help Jokersax11 with various projects, including our Kitchen Sink. That being said, it might take me a little bit to respond...but I will.
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toomaiv said:
Well guys we have a pretty good chance to include everything (...what is possible) we ever wanted on our Atrix...
in an other thread th3bill (the dev. behind AOKP milestone 6 port) opened there were alot of request for features on the next builds, th3bill offered to open a discusion which include all requests in one place.
** Th3bill, we love your work and your willing to do for others. your private time "wasted" on porting and developing is not ovious and we do appriciate it. keep on the excellent work and again a major thank, us - the users.
since nobody did it so far i'll start:
i whould like the next build to include:
1. call recording option.
2. video call option.
3. webtop interface?
4. google music.
5. led color control in order to customize notifications.
6. o.c kernel.
7. some other cpu governors.
8. google's android jellybean featuers? espacially build-in voice recognition.
things to fix (what i've noticed):
1. video cam - known problem.
2. browser issus (fc when changing ls and portrait).
3. edit custom brightness levels (fc).
4. can't change signal and wifi colors.
5. also battery bar won't show up.
6. wifi direct won't work.
7. wifi hot spot works and immidiatly stops(maybe it's just my device).
-By now your port is the best rom my atrix had so...big thanks !!!
-I know you working too hard already (DON'T FORGET TO HAVE FUN !!, i wrote all of the things i think can be added. with or without them it is still almost perfect.
guys it is your turn now...make some suggestions for improvement:
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Enhancements:
1) Call recording, I need to play around with this rom some more...see if it has the capability...maybe I can pull from MIUI...can't guarantee, though
2) That will be tough until Moto gives libs
3) Loki and I have talked at length about this...we're trying to figure out a way to do it, but it will take a hybrid kernel and a lot of work. Not that we won't TRY...
4) This will be in the next release
5) Have an app in mind that I can include? Beauty Aroma is that I can include almost anything
6) I am working with Jokersax11 on making some that are compatible with our base. I know that some are kinda compatible, but not all....
7) By governors, I am assuming you're talking about some form of setcpu?
8) I have the apps on my PC...well some of them.
With respect to fixes, 1 and 2...those won't be till Moto plays nice with me and gives me drivers for ICS.
3) I need a logcat on this one please
4 and 5) Not too sure about these ones. I'll try them with my phone if I get a chance. If you can logcat, that'd be great
6) I think this is an ICS thing. Don't know that any of them do Ad-hoc at the moment
7) You need to forget whatever network you are near if you're connected...and make sure that wifi is ON before beginning tether
Sorry if I am a downer on some of it, but I would rather be honest with everything I tell you all. I have much love for the Android Community

I know of you and your builds well Th3Bill, unfortunately I'm just now working on my 10 posts, I have flashed everything for Atrix and Photon.
Much thanks
My Phone

log file
3) I need a logcat on this one please
4 and 5) Not too sure about these ones. I'll try them with my phone if I get a chance. If you can logcat, that'd be great
7) You need to forget whatever network you are near if you're connected...and make sure that wifi is ON before beginning tether
Sorry if I am a downer on some of it, but I would rather be honest with everything I tell you all. I have much love for the Android Community [/QUOTE]
Hi,
3+4+5) attached .txt file. (tried to make it shorter as possible.cleared log then did 3 then 4 then 5 and saved it)
7) you are right - worked.
tomer

really???
hey guys / girls,
there is not a single thing you would like to see on the next builds??
***DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE***
SO COME ON AND MAKE A WISH!!!
p.s
i defenetly would like a mod (or better - a buildin solution) that will trick the google play to show me all apps. (not the ones comptible with my specific device/settings).
tomer

toomaiv said:
hey guys / girls,
there is not a single thing you would like to see on the next builds??
***DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE***
SO COME ON AND MAKE A WISH!!!
p.s
i defenetly would like a mod (or better - a buildin solution) that will trick the google play to show me all apps. (not the ones comptible with my specific device/settings).
tomer
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You can try changing the build I'd in the build.prop...but I'm not sure if that would work even...
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium

Just installed latest build an wanted to say thanks for bill's an jokers hard work..
I personally use the car dock alot an the transitions between audio playing and incoming call tends to be troublesome. When calls answered the phone doesn't port it over the USB. Usually speaker/headset and have to redock in call for it to work... also DSP manager doesn't have effect over the USB audio out. Only reason I revert to original moto rom.
That aside best cm9 based rom yet.
Sent from my MB860 using xda app-developers app

Also AOKP states it now supports adhoc.... tried on 2 different setups and no joy...
This is wifi direct I gather..
LS support also varies through various android tasks.
Sent from my MB860 using xda app-developers app

On paranoid android for the atrix when in tablet mode it won't allow me to make the recent apps the Sense htc style one, is there a fix for this?

Question/Report
Not sure if this is the right place to report issues. My luck, probably not. Here it goes..
I had your build 40. worked great!
updated to milestone 6 7b. worked better (yaay)
tried to update to milestone 6 revision. No wipe, same as previous, sent atrix into bootloop. tried few more times, same thing.
tried again with full wipe. Bootloop. tried again. bootloop. flashed 7b full wipe, works great again (yaay).
Just curious if you have any idea why my phone doesn't like the new one. saw in the rom thread a few others had same issue or similar, no answers there as of yet. i'm hesitant it try again unless you can think of something i could possibly be doing wrong somehow. Anything i can send or tell you that could help, let me know. Thanks
As for requests, i prefer Apex launcher over Nova. Maybe include it? it would be nice if i could uninstall Nova also
You Rock!
*So i tried installing again and it works now. not sure what the problem was*

Closer
hi,
not really worked...users didn't cooporate and besides cm 10 (JB) is already here and not bad, so this is closed!!
i wanna thank Th3Bill for his effort and wish you will continue develop for us.
tomer
CAN CLOSE THREAD

Hello
Hello One asks what is the kernel that I have to install

Call Recording and if possible hardware acceleration

paarkhi said:
Call Recording and if possible hardware acceleration
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Hwa is in the ROM under advanced.
Call recording isn't yet supported by kernel. Funny you posted this as joker and I are discussing how to fix now
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium

Problems
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this. If not, i apologize.
I flashed your AOKP build 3 on my international atrix. The ROM doesn't recognize internal and external storage for me. When my phone boots it says that is safe to remove sd card. I used the two options EMMC and SD with or without build.prop tweaks. Also i flash this with FULL wipe (system, etc) The other thing that i cannot find are GApps. Can I use CM10 GApps for this rom ?
Thanks in advance.

So, are there options for an OCed kernel yet?

* Moved to development thread. *

I would really love to see an option to "Show only contacts with phone numbers" on Contact list settings...MIUI has this option and this is super usefull for me
MIUI SMS app is great too, but it doesn´t show smileys
Thanks

I have a good one! WebOS and Sense style multitasking (with long press home).
Sent from my MB860 using xda app-developers app

Facebook Sync
If this has been answered then i missed it and i searched first .
Is there a fix for the facebook sync
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MB860 running 4.1.2

Sm-p605 now working as expected

Hi Folks,
This is just an overview about the above mentioned tablet including the probs I had and how I got them solved.
At first startup I was wondering about the sticky rolling through the screens. The typical adjustment inside the developers settings hasn't solved it.
Sometimes it Stücks completely and booted Fa do my by itself and it got worst after installing all the Samsung "Goodies". Sometimes some kind of Bootloop. A recovery reboot was necessary in including wiping of the phone.
What really sets me up was the really annoying WLAN disconnects - switching of the Cell Data doesn't really solved the prob.
Bluetooth seems to work fine just BT Keyboards randomly disconnects.
I tried a lot of Apps and configuration changes with no real help.
Finally I decided to root the Tab and put HAL 9000 on it.
The only recovery which I was able to install was TWRP - Philz I couldn't got installed.
After that the HALL 9000 worked as described in the installation guide.
The first reboot after installation a big wow now the Tab was fast no sticky scrolling apps opens fast and so on - working as expected when buying.
Some useful software we included in the Rom especially X Posed helps fine tuning the tab. Then I changed the launcher to Apex and installed a HD 3 D Theme.
This really personalises the look as you want.
Now on my tab are about 300 hundred Apps the only thing which you need to tune is in Settings for developers ( 7 times build Nr hitting )
The animation settings to 0.5.
It runs smooth all above mentioned problems are solved lucky wise you have to root it to get it perfectly working lol to sammy.
Now it is possible to connect the Apple BT Keyboard and type perfectly with no disconnects.
With this changes you don't loose SPEN or its Apps. The Knox counter will be set to 01 - but it doesn't matter to me.
So far I understand Knox it's just a safe enviroment when taking using the device as a BILD device inside a company. When rooted it MUST change the value, if not you can bring a potentially dangerous device in a security enviroment.
Sofar it should not have any impacts to the hardware warranty.
That's all sofar if any questions feel free to ask if helpful give me a thanks

When did you download HAL? The thread is closed atm and links are disabled.

jinda628 said:
When did you download HAL? The thread is closed atm and links are disabled.
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Thanks for information, downloaded it about a week ago. What's the warez inside ? I thought all was OK with it.
Hopefully there will be other devs providing a rom or a kernel for the 605.

Not really sure what the issue is. And yes, there seems to be so few ROMs out there for P605

warez in HAL 9000
I checked my HAL Rom and i think I found the warez, there 3 extra Apps which are great. I think everybody who has installed it should purchase them. May be that's fair for the developers or uninstall them.
The Apps I found are :
1. Ultimate Dynamic Nav Bar pro. ( really worth the money )
2.LMT Launcher great gesture settings ( i am not using it because got another solution, but would if I had found this App first )
3. Greenify ( a battery saving solution which WORKS ).
4. Screen Recorder Pro. ( deinstalled because I don't need it )
I think buying those apps is fair and the Rom is worth it.

I really want to try this ROM but the links are gone. I wonder if the thread is going to be opened again.
I also dont mind buying the apps if I'm really going to use it.
I hope they resolve the problem soon as we only have few ROMs for P605.

Yeah why is it disabled ? There is not so much rom for 605 and one of them is banned even it is liked ... Interesting
SM-P605 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi

rom news
Hi again
Beside the HAL ROM is now another rom ready for our Tab.
It's called stocky rom (stockyrom.de) it hasn't that much changes in it but I think worth trying and may be when some people giving feedback to the developer it's getting mor sophisticated.
If you guys still interested in Hal rom and going to delete/buy the warez items I got it on dropbox.
I am personally contact the stocky guys and get this rom working as wanted.

Who's going to miss using Xposed on Lollipop?

Are you waiting out on updating for next weeks Tmobile update? At this current moment, w/ Xposed 3.0 Alpha3, we still don't know if we will ever get support (as the dev said). I currently have the phone setup pretty much dependent on Xposed. Not sure how I will setup the phone again without some of the stuff Xposed has to offer.
List of modules:
Complete Action Plus - Used because Samsung's Complete Action feature is a bit gimmickly and this one allows you to properly setup which apps you want by default.
GravityBox - This is used because I want to change/remap my "recent key" to "menu" instead.
Greenify - no need to explain
Network Speed Indicator is perfect for the Notification Box. Yes this can be replaced.
PerAppFonts - Used to change the apps in my chat app... No replacement w/out Xposed
Samsung Camera Fix - Now I can launch Quickpic directly from Camera App
Screen Filter - Used with tasker to kill bluescreen that hurts your eyes
Secure Setting - Paired w/ Tasker since it can control GPS, Radios, Power Saving, and etc
Wanam - too many functions here
XHangouts - To edit Hangout settings
Youtube Adaway - blocks youtube ads
YourTube - Used for automatically selecting 4k stream and changing display menu at launch of Youtube App
God I wish this list wasn't so long that I became dependent.

Nope. I bought the device because I liked it. Not because I liked it and it could run xposed.

MajorTom_ said:
Nope. I bought the device because I liked it. Not because I liked it and it could run xposed.
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I've been using this phone since launch. What i'm trying to say is... will you be holding out on the Lollipop update because Xposed isn't supported..

Dont think anyone will miss it really. You can always go back to kitkat and use xpose so it is not really a thing to "miss"
That is the joy of choices...new update because it got pretty colors and new lockscreen/notification settings? or stay with the old that does EVERYTHING you require from it?

mgbotoe said:
Dont think anyone will miss it really. You can always go back to kitkat and use xpose so it is not really a thing to "miss"
That is the joy of choices...new update because it got pretty colors and new lockscreen/notification settings? or stay with the old that does EVERYTHING you require from it?
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LOL hard choices!

twe90kid said:
LOL hard choices!
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You have to remember...we have several developers who are not lazy to actually modify the roms...check out some of the few lollipop roms laying to see what i mean if you haven't already ...granted, they do not do any of what you listed LMAO!

twe90kid said:
I've been using this phone since launch. What i'm trying to say is... will you be holding out on the Lollipop update because Xposed isn't supported..
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No need to hold out. Xposed is a luxury to me.

mgbotoe said:
You have to remember...we have several developers who are not lazy to actually modify the roms...check out some of the few lollipop roms laying to see what i mean if you haven't already ...granted, they do not do any of what you listed LMAO!
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I've already tried one and flashed back to kitkat.
I'm trying to see if there's replacements to kill off that xposed list.

Not me. Never used it and don't think I ever will
BAD ASS NOTE 4

Actually most of those mods have been manually added into some Lollipop Roms already. So no I won't miss xposed. It's better to have it as a built in for stability purposes

VeNuMuS said:
Actually most of those mods have been manually added into some Lollipop Roms already. So no I won't miss xposed. It's better to have it as a built in for stability purposes
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I just flashed to Lollipop TEKXodus N4 URv1.6
One thing that I use is Greenify GCM push. Seems like you can't use GCM push when Xposed doesn't work.

The only thing I really care about is YouTube adaway and mw manager. I hate youtube ads, and I love that I can shrink any app by sliding from the corner.
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without Xprivacy, the android ecosystem is useless to me personally.
without the ability to keep my data, MY data, I would rather go get a iphone.
I do wish another option was available, a ton of usable mods are being hampered due to one add on (albeit a major one)
certainly not complaining since I can't code, Ill just stick with 4.4.4 and wait.

What about if you update and install dual Boot and run cm12 in the second ROM with xposed and that's it!!

VeNuMuS said:
Actually most of those mods have been manually added into some Lollipop Roms already. So no I won't miss xposed. It's better to have it as a built in for stability purposes
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Thanks buddy, very good to know Regarding stability, no question that your statement is fact. Shines some bright light on this news, posted by @rovo89 today along with news of a new LP alpha...
Regarding Samsung ROMs: No progress. No ETA. No promise that it will be supported, although I don't exclude it either. It's simply unclear what further differences between their and AOSP's ART variant come up.
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I will personally miss the ability to use Xposed mainly due to the vast amount of customization options that it offers to users. While it is certainly preferable that various mods are baked into ROMs, there are some incredibly powerful modules that either can't or are highly unlikely to be included in any custom ROMs. I decided to go through the modules that I'm using and (attempt) to evaluate the likelihood/possibility that their effects could/would be included in a custom ROM (or replicated by non-xposed dependent apps). Here's my take, would love to hear the thoughts of others :good:
Amplify: Surely. Most ROMs improve battery life vs. stock anyway. Wakelocks/services/alarms can be "tamed" by other means.
CPU Freq in Statusbar: Maybe not in the statusbar, but Dynamic (Kat at least, have yet to try Pop) has it as well as the CPU gov in the notification panel. Better than "good enough"
Coolify: A newer module that I don't think many people are aware of... but absolutely should be! Giving it a look in the Play store will give you a better idea of what it does than a brief description. Really a fantastic app/module... frequently updated and each new version works better than the last! I also like that it shows the battery temp in the status bar. If I were crazy greedy, would prefer that it showed CPU core 0 temp, but I'm not, so happy to keep an eye on the battery I doubt that the full effect would be implemented in a ROM, but I'd think that it could be to some degree.
Greenify: Similar effect built into a ROM? Sounds like a TON of work... will be missed.
No lock home: Was very happy to learn that this is built into LP itself... good call!
PlayPermissionsXposed: A module I consider quite important but wouldn't expect to see it in a ROM. AppOps (already baked into ROMs) is far more useful though anyway.
UnbelovedHosts (paid version): Similar to AdAway, and KILLER as an addition to it. It's very rare that I see an ad of any kind on my phone. The unlock key allows to blocked hosts lists to be auto-updated. Will be missed.
Unicon: Purely cosmetic but I love this module. IMO it's the ultimate "UI consistency" tool. Along with my icon pack of choice (Velur, hands down) my (Nova Prime backed) UI looks... appealing Too "specialized" to be baked into a ROM I would imagine. Will really miss this one.
Xposed Additions (pro): Please tell me that there are LP ROMS that enable key remapping... PLEASE! (Can't handle menu key = recents. It's WRONG I tells ya! WRONG!!!)
XuiMod: Another strictly cosmetic effect, but SO SWEET! Allows you to use animations from various ROMs, so.... yeah.
Huge thanks @VeNuMuS for allowing me to view to inability to use Xposed in a different light. LP, here I come :good:

@jazzmachine
Not having Greenify paid options is going to suck bad. Especially GCM push

If you guys miss Screen Filter you could always download Twighlight from the play store

I do not plan on moving off my current setup until/if Xposed is fully up & functional with TouchWiz & Lollipop.
Unless T-Mobile is making Lollipop make my phone have secks w/ me... Nope, nah ah. Can't live without Xposed! :silly:

Don't use exposed. Don't see the value. Never have, never will
Sent from my SM-N910T using XDA Free mobile app

jazzmachine said:
Xposed Additions (pro): Please tell me that there are LP ROMS that enable key remapping... PLEASE! (Can't handle menu key = recents. It's WRONG I tells
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Found out how to change this..
You can use Root Explorer:
Make sure you grant root and Mount R/W
Then go to /system/usr/keylayout
Modify file Generic.kl
Look for "Key 254"
Change it to Menu, Save, exit, and reboot.
Now I need to figure out how to change double press home to launch recent apps.

New Ultra headed my way!

Should have it by the 17th. Really looking forward to it.
There looks to be a lot more info here on Remix in general ...looks good! ?
One thing is I am hoping for is a way to safely increase the ram. Seems I read that the Ultra is already rooted, so hopefully there is an easy way to do this!
OH... The Ultra is on sale at Amazon for $199 ...says it includes keyboard! Sweet!
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It's not rooted. But its easy to flash a custom recovery and install the su binary.

BamaPanda said:
Should have it by the 17th. Really looking forward to it.
There looks to be a lot more info here on Remix in general ...looks good!
One thing is I am hoping for is a way to safely increase the ram. Seems I read that the Ultra is already rooted, so hopefully there is an easy way to do thd
OH... The Ultra is on sale at Amazon for $199 ...says it includes keyboard! Sweet!
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If you can find the Cyanogen Mod recovery then you can download the supersu from the market. Boot into recovery and then apply the supersu as an update. Once done you cannot get OTA updates, but supersu lets you unroot and then you can repeate the process of replacing the recovery and rooting. Very easy to do and much easier than using other root tools out there.

Got it early. Ordered Friday... delivered Monday.
Already updated to 2.0, which changed the settings app. Then the mouse stopped working on the keyboard, so I may be looking to reset the tab and start over... not that big of a deal.
Unless someone chimes in here with an idea to get the trackpad working again.
Neat tab. Made a video I may post later.
Thanks for any helpful input.

Reset the tablet, all is well for the trackpad.
So this is supposed to be a multi-tasker, but for the life of me I cannot find the feature that was on version 1.5 ....the ability to have phone sized windows.
Where did that feature go? Anyone know?
Thanks.

BamaPanda said:
Reset the tablet, all is well for the trackpad.
So this is supposed to be a multi-tasker, but for the life of me I cannot find the feature that was on version 1.5 ....the ability to have phone sized windows.
Where did that feature go? Anyone know?
Thanks.
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Try under settings / applications and see if open in full screen mode is checked.

tomlogan1 said:
Try under settings / applications and see if open in full screen mode is checked.
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Thank you. I found it and it is un-checked.
I have since found a few apps, like calculator and another I installed ...Ccleaner, do open in smaller or larger windows, and can be moved about on the screen.
Still none of my larger apps, that I use for business ...like Polaris, seem to have any options to change.
I am thinking I am going to have to carefully check my apps and look for those which may work and fit with the Remix multi windows setup. So far there are not many.
Not quite what I expected, but I will keep working with it.
Thanks again!

I mentioned this in another post here. It applies to version 2.0.
The way to determine if the app being used can be brought down to a phone sized/smaller window is to swipe down with your finger from the top. To the right will be the option to expand or contract the app. Works on some apps, not on others, but at least now I know where the option is.
Hope this helps.

App Freezing
Anyone having problems with apps freezing, mouse still working, but cant scroll or select on apps.
Giving me trouble in facebook messenger and google drive

oh yeah. i have to hard-reboot mine at least once a day. video is usually the culprit, specifically youtube.
support didn't have any advice so i've just gotten used to it.

Its an ongoing problem. Video is the first notification of it you'll notice, but I've seen it in games too, specifically Alto's Adventure and The Room 3.
According to the errors I've captured with logcat its an issue caused by the nvidia drivers.

yes, i have noticed that in logcat too. is it that NVIDIA is not meant to work with android? surely there are other android devices on their chips... it is so frustrating.

Microwear H5 MT6737M Android 6

Very scarce info everywhere, but quite a few people already use this $80 super-powerful watch including me (which is basically a micro-smartphone).
Many video reviews already.
I personally think that such powerful watch (much more powerful than my cheap 2016 tablet on previous Mediatek chip with less RAM) is a such small smartphone with illusion like it’s watch made by very modified version of Circle launcher with edited Android 6. I don’t see any limitations on this watch to run full stock Android OS here from the M6737M series smartphones, if ported. Even now all full-featured apps from Google store made for smartphones are perfectly runs here, including very big navigation apps and even the full “battery saver” function present from smartphones (first one which I see on Android watch ever). The only limitation which I noticed is very small display (specific apps cannot fit) and badly edited Android OS (like completely deleted status bar from OS, any 3rd-party status bar apps are installing fine but crashing on settings). Most 3rd-party launchers from Google store and open sources are installing here (only with few exceptions) - the most stable one I’ve found is open source “Essential Launcher” ver. 1.3.
My feeling from “lift wrist turn on” function with “swipe pages” makes almost iPhone X experience here, no any buttons needed, very stable power on only by view and swiping windows (including closing them by swiping to the right) makes very good feedback to the user.
Everything spoiled only by edited OS - awful work with fonts, too many illogical Menu lists, deleted functions like not present “Storage” in OS settings(only shortcut to file explorer) - the USB storage media not adding because of edits on OS level, considering normal micro-USB & even if you turn on “usb media” in developer settings.
Very few watch-faces with no way to install any others, it’s obviously fake feature to make you feel and use them as watch.
So, what I think many would be glad to see here - the root is the most important goal for now(developer menu allows bootloader unlock-not sure if it’s true because USB media settings there not works), maybe putting the normal Android is the next goal.
The root is very needed to firewall for very shady apps here, it’s very powerful device so it have full smartphone spyware, like notorious MTK Logger & Thermal Manager, which can work at sleep mode (it is almost suspicious that they broke USB media function so user can’t bypass network connection for installs). Root needed to work with display resolution and etc.
Edit: the processor by Aida app recognized as MT6737M but on Aliexpress you can find watch easily by search term processor "MTK6737M" (only like 7 sellers total).

I have the H5 as well, and you're correct! The main draw back is the stripped down OS, for example the call forwarding features are missing..

Ordered one of these a few weeks ago, should be getting delivery soon. Interesting to see how it performs, my last android watches have been mt6572 & mt6580, both of these I ported full Android versions to, I may give it a go at porting a full Android version to this in the future

Check this also:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sm...dorid-6-0-finow-q1-pro-smartwatch-4g-t3745271

Well I got mine today, seems good so far. As for alternative launchers tried a few that work OK, if you want to change the clockskins for now I have found that Universal Launcher New Gen works just fine (you add clockskin folder +clockskins)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ricktop.ClockSkinCoco

I use mine at least 2 weeks maybe. Without root (which I plan to do but don't have time right now) I do not connect them to any Internet, so I'm using them as just watch (it's my first smartwatch). Files I'm sending through bluetooth from my Android phone, quite neat that you can install apps from bluetooth menu right away.
About battery - very good, if you don't connect them to networks at all, with battery Saver on & "wrist move activation" off they can work whole week on 1 charge (this includes some extensive using in 2 days on winter street with GPS apps, camera-video, constant time checking and etc.). They CAN HOLD MORE days, after the full charge, watch calculated the battery to the 15 days of work - which is believable, as I see now if you will check only time manually they can easily save 1 charge to 12-13 days. I use charger with them only once at week, it's quite shocking to read Apple Watch forums where people making that every 2-3 days.
They're quite powerful - making the zip archive internally from 250Mb photos/videos takes something like 2 minutes.
Because the step-counter here work always (even if you take them to the other room) - this device is just made for the SmartNavi (open source navigation app which use mainly step-counter with rare or no GPS connection for battery saving).

Can't wait for a custom recovery to be made for it, so I can root it. Tried all the rooting apps out on the web and none work so far.

Well I have managed to get Root access, using Magisk, and flashing patched boot image, struggling to create a TWRP recovery. Hoping someone out there can come up with a custom recovery.

Managed to port TWRP to it, but it is in miniature! going to have a play around with it to see if I can make it usable. Anyone with suggestions be grateful - well gave up on trying to amend TWRP resolution, and installed flashify - just flashed an AOSP ROM to the H5, happy days!

Well done stevea76
A step by step or point in the right directions kinda 'guide' would be really appreciated, cos the H5 with its stock funos is far from fun... sure its usable but no fun.

Wizard2004 said:
Well done stevea76
A step by step or point in the right directions kinda 'guide' would be really appreciated, cos the H5 with its stock funos is far from fun... sure its usable but no fun.
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I will put something together at the weekend, by then I should have something usable, don't want people breaking their new toys!

stevea76 said:
I will put something together at the weekend, by then I should have something usable, don't want people breaking their new toys!
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It would be interesting to find if there's any "recovery mode" on stock ROM image at all, considering that there's only 1 button. On similar watches from Samsung and etc they have quite awkward way to enter recovery - like some swipe to the left in time of logo showing and etc. I tried to repeat any swiping during boot - nothing...
Also, by the usual use of watch (almost a month now) I can say that in my case of use the battery holding 1 full charge for 7 days, so a week, the same amount calculated by OS also. That's the battery regime or mode which is now constant in my case (it can be different in situation of other people).

The battery here can be saved even more for a week - I managed to notice that "sleep stat" function are working here at all times and cannot be turned off like step counter in this Android OS, at the night time it randomly turning on the pulse checker light even if you not wearing them, which using the battery (not a big deal, but using some).

Wizard2004 said:
Well done stevea76
A step by step or point in the right directions kinda 'guide' would be really appreciated, cos the H5 with its stock funos is far from fun... sure its usable but no fun.
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Here is the link to the AOSP ROM I ported to the H5.
I must express it is a long winded way to flash it as I am not technically minded, just playing at it, and only do this if you have the stock ROM downloaded as a backup to revert back to and don't mind the possibility of wrecking your toy!, the only reason for me doing it this way is that the recovery TWRP I ported is functional, but not set for the screen size for the H5 so unless you have bionic eyes it is nearly impossible to use, hence the reason for my 'workaround' (note: If anyone can make the TWRP scaled for the watch, just flash the ROM in the usual way)
Here is a 'sort of' guide and link to files.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=252561
1. Flash
Microwear_Magisk_Patched_Boot_IMG using splash tool, reboot device.
2. Install Magisk Manager from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445/page4
Open Magisk manager and go to settings, set default action to 'Grant'
You now have root.
3. Flash
Microwear_H5_Recovery_TWRP using spflashtool.
4. Install
Flashify (for root users) from the Playstore.
5. Download directly to the watch (or to Computer and transfer to the watch) Microwear_H5_AOSP ROM AND the GAPPS of your choice (Open Gapps arm64 nano was my choice)
6. Use Flashify to install zip(s) making sure you click TWRP as recovery option and also tick the wipe cache, data etc (add the Gapps as well if you want Google)
Click Reboot on flashify.
Hopefully the watch boots to recovery and installs the ROM and gapps!
First boot sticks on boot animation, so if not starting after 3 or 4 minutes power off the watch and reboot, after another 5 to 10 minutes you should see 'android is starting'
Nav Bar is by default on permanently, to make this and notification bar 'hide' (fully Immersive) I used this method.
1. install on pc ADB (Guide below)
2. Enable developer options and USB debugging on watch.
3. connect watch (switched on)
4. Open ADB on pc.
5. Type: adb devices (click enter)
(should see you device is connected)
6. Then type: adb shell - (click enter)
7. Then type this line:
settings put global policy_control immersive.full=*
Now the navigation bar will pop up when you pull down or up slightly on the screen and will auto hide after a couple of seconds.
As for sensors I don't think any are working.
I have included 3 launchers on this ROM, so make your choice!
Please, please, please DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS if you don't know how to revert back to stock rom. I bear no responsibility for broken toys!

Guys, who already have a scatter file for this watch, i really want to make a backup of current ROM before checking for any new updates (which is quite good version from January and there's nowhere on Internet any firmware files for this watch, so saving and sharing ROM is important). If i manage to download ROM i will post it on Google drive.
I wanted to force watch go into it's own recovery but my ADB installation don't see this watch connected - there's a primitive subsystem on watch beside Android OS, it can be seen when you turn Android OS "power off" and connect USB for charging - it will show the battery, i'm puzzled how to enter into any settings of that subsystem.

The stock firmware is on the Microwear Website.
http://m.microweartech.com/en/MicrowearFirmware.html

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The stock firmware is on the Microwear Website.
http://m.microweartech.com/en/MicrowearFirmware.html
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Yeah, i noticed only now, strangely but i remember that a month ago there was nothing about H5 model on their site when i searched…maybe because they just released it.
Also the firmware have the same scatter file - the first one which i found myself for some cheap smartphone on 6737 chip, as i remember i found it on reddit.
As i seen no updates of firmware for now.

crustier said:
Yeah, i noticed only now, strangely but i remember that a month ago there was nothing about H5 model on their site when i searched…maybe because they just released it.
Also the firmware have the same scatter file - the first one which i found myself for some cheap smartphone on 6737 chip, as i remember i found it on reddit.
As i seen no updates of firmware for now.
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No updates as yet. I have ported an AOSP version, pretty much stock Android to the H5, it is basic, but I like the 'stock experience' on a square watch. Not got the sensors set up, but not really bothered about how many steps I have done on any given day or my heart rate for that matter.
Also if you want fancy clockskins then Eric's launcher works just fine on it.

stevea76 said:
No updates as yet. I have ported an AOSP version, pretty much stock Android to the H5, it is basic, but I like the 'stock experience' on a square watch. Not got the sensors set up, but not really bothered about how many steps I have done on any given day or my heart rate for that matter.
Also if you want fancy clockskins then Eric's launcher works just fine on it.
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As i understand correctly - here they simulated or just copied clock skins from Apple watch?
Where to find Eric launcher?
For everyone else i will write again link to the firmware from Microwear site here – https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WaktAl-cjCTE1l0jffA7BnevzESdlCwc?usp=sharing
because chinese support is very short in time and can vanish with website very easily (for example to find an older firmwares to my Onyx Boox ereader i used "webarchive" service, thanks gods we have it - only from this saved archived copies of pages i found the sharing links to the older firmwares, still i cannot find the first version of RemixOS release for KitKat-if anyone have the alpha - please message me)

Eric's launcher is here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ricktop.ClockSkinCoco
All about the clockskins mainly for round Full Android watches here:
https://plus.google.com/communities/109827242607524552712
For square Full Android Watches here:
https://plus.google.com/communities/118413074291213420811
A useful forum for Full Android watches (round) with guides how to install custom watch faces:
http://roundandroidwatches.proboards.com