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Flat PIE or PIEbar

The functionality of the navbar can be modified extensively. You can make it autohide like the dock in OS X or the taskbar in windows, you can add custom buttons to it, change the location of the buttons, change what the buttons do and give them longpress functionality, and so forth.
But you can't make it do the one thing that makes PIE brilliant: be always hidden, and pop up instantly as you slide from an edge onto a button, and simultaneously and instantaneously disappear and activate the button as you lift your finger.
So I like the PIE metaphor, but I don't like its semicircle shape or the fact that you can't customize it. Therefore, how can I give the navbar the functionality that PIE has, underlined above? Or, not as good but still better than default PIE, how can I make PIE flat instead of semicircle?

Personally I hate PIE, find it annoying. I hope it never finds a way into AOSP.

knitler said:
Personally I hate PIE, find it annoying. I hope it never finds a way into AOSP.
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That's fine. It's also completely irrelevant lol... I'm just looking for info on how I can modify the navbar to have PIE functionality (or alternatively, how to change PIE to a flat shape like the navbar).

You're right. I probably shouldn't have posted.

I've been wanting the same thing. Hopefully its possible.
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knitler said:
Personally I hate PIE, find it annoying. I hope it never finds a way into AOSP.
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You know you can disable it right? Even on PA you don't have to use PIE if you don't want to.

why not simply using tablet ui. you get one small combined bar, left side buttons right side status informations and notifications.

personally i love the pie idea *not the flat bar* coz of full screen gaming..

molesarecoming said:
why not simply using tablet ui. you get one small combined bar, left side buttons right side status informations and notifications.
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Because that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. It doesn't feature what I explained above..."the one thing that makes PIE brilliant: be always hidden, and pop up instantly as you slide from an edge onto a button, and simultaneously and instantaneously disappear and activate the button as you lift your finger."
It's the combination of not being on the screen ever except for a split second, and the ability to slide onto a button and lift up to activate it.
You are a developer, do you know what I would have to modify to make the navbar function like this? Or, alternatively, to make PIE in a flat, navbar-like theme instead of sci-fi semicircle?

I think PIE beats any cyonegen ROM functions...PIE will end up being part of android OS in the future, its so simple and clean, it can't be annoying because the blackberry z10 utilizes touch/swipe everything to use the phone..
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androidfoshizzle said:
I think PIE beats any cyonegen ROM functions...PIE will end up being part of android OS in the future, its so simple and clean, it can't be annoying because the blackberry z10 utilizes touch/swipe everything to use the phone..
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Please stay on topic. We are not discussing the merits of pie in here.
OP what you requested should be possible. However, whether someone will step up to the challenge is a different question.
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I think another idea about Pie, would be to have a Navbar that comes up like pie. I mean, that when you drag the finger up from the bottom, rather than having a semicircle (pie) shape, you could have the a rectangular bar with buttons (something like the nav bar). So rather than dragging the finger diagonally to the buttons, the user could drag up(start rectangular pie) and then drag to the left or right.
I know it sounds a bit wonky, but I think it's a neat idea. I would make a few conceptual images later today. IMO pie in it's current form is amazing. I am really looking forward to see where Pie development goes.

I believe AOKP has a navbar option that auto-hides it with a small trigger to bring it back up, similar to the Windows auto-hide taskbar option.

ak700 said:
I think another idea about Pie, would be to have a Navbar that comes up like pie. I mean, that when you drag the finger up from the bottom, rather than having a semicircle (pie) shape, you could have the a rectangular bar with buttons (something like the nav bar). So rather than dragging the finger diagonally to the buttons, the user could drag up(start rectangular pie) and then drag to the left or right
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That's EXACTLY what I'm describing. I love PIE, I don't love the semicircle shape, I prefer a bar shape. At the same time, you can customize the navbar but you can't customize PIE, so I'd like to just give PIE functionality to the navbar.
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I believe AOKP has a navbar option that auto-hides it with a small trigger to bring it back up, similar to the Windows auto-hide taskbar option.
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Ya a lot of ROMs do. It doesn't really accomplish anything like what PIE does (as described in my posts above). That's why I'm trying to give PIE functionality to the navbar.
It doesn't really seem like it would be very complicated to theme PIE into a flat bar shape, to look like the navbar. I'm willing to do the coding if someone can explain what I need to do. Really though, like I've been saying, the navbar is customizable whereas PIE isn't, so I'd prefer to code PIE functionality into the navbar.

.psd said:
That's EXACTLY what I'm describing. I love PIE, I don't love the semicircle shape, I prefer a bar shape. At the same time, you can customize the navbar but you can't customize PIE, so I'd like to just give PIE functionality to the navbar.
Ya a lot of ROMs do. It doesn't really accomplish anything like what PIE does (as described in my posts above). That's why I'm trying to give PIE functionality to the navbar.
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I suppose there's some difference. I use LMT to get PIE controls on CM 10.1 (the default implementation is pretty limited) and it's not much different from the AOKP feature I mentioned. I hope you find what you're looking for.

snapper.fishes said:
Please stay on topic. We are not discussing the merits of pie in here.
OP what you requested should be possible. However, whether someone will step up to the challenge is a different question.
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And the topic is about PIE so all things related can be said
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androidfoshizzle said:
And the topic is about PIE so all things related can be said
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No it is not. The topic of this thread is about whether it is possible to create a hybrid of pie and the navbar with the appearance of the navbar but with the functionality of PIE. If you wish to discuss the navbar, you are free to discuss it in your own thread.
Furthermore, this thread is in the Q&A section. OP asked a question, so your post should answer his question. This is not General Discussion.
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.psd said:
That's EXACTLY what I'm describing. I love PIE, I don't love the semicircle shape, I prefer a bar shape. At the same time, you can customize the navbar but you can't customize PIE, so I'd like to just give PIE functionality to the navbar.
Ya a lot of ROMs do. It doesn't really accomplish anything like what PIE does (as described in my posts above). That's why I'm trying to give PIE functionality to the navbar.
It doesn't really seem like it would be very complicated to theme PIE into a flat bar shape, to look like the navbar. I'm willing to do the coding if someone can explain what I need to do. Really though, like I've been saying, the navbar is customizable whereas PIE isn't, so I'd prefer to code PIE functionality into the navbar.
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Why not send an email to the PA developers? The codes should be available, so all you really need to ask is which section of the code affects PIE.
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snapper.fishes said:
No it is not. The topic of this thread is about whether it is possible to create a hybrid of pie and the navbar with the appearance of the navbar but with the functionality of PIE. If you wish to discuss the navbar, you are free to discuss it in your own thread
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Why not send an email to the PA developers? The codes should be available, so all you really need to ask is which section of the code affects PIE.
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You like quoting people I see, how about you quote the person that said they didn't like pie? Its the 2nd or 3rd post..who wants a pie nave bar when its doesn't need to be messed with, don't quote me a 3rd I won't respond
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This mod works on the n4. I used it early on before pie caught on. U can use the full screen toggle app with button savior app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497558
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androidfoshizzle said:
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Please get out of this thread unless, like snapper.fishes said, you have information on how to mod a hybrid with the appearance and customizability of the navbar and the functionality of PIE.
DowntownJeffBrown said:
This mod works on the n4...
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Thanks but it's not at all what I'm trying to accomplish. People have offered up various alternatives so I should be clear:
What PIE does is very unique, and things like hidden navbar and button savior are entirely unlike it. It's the mechanism of sliding from an edge > buttons appear > lift finger > button activates as the menu disappears. It's a very brilliant, modern paradigm, seen in UIs like Ubuntu Phone
snapper.fishes said:
Why not send an email to the PA developers?
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I feel like they wouldn't care what I have to say, though I guess it's worth a shot... Really I thought I could find an answer fairly quick around here but that's not panning out so well lol.

Tablet UI

Is there a way to get the tablet UI on the 2013 Nexus 7 yet????
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Gadzooks1123 said:
Is there a way to get the tablet UI on the 2013 Nexus 7 yet????
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Install the Paranoid Android ROM.
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How about a way on stock ROM? Just a mod or tweak or something?
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Gadzooks1123 said:
How about a way on stock ROM? Just a mod or tweak or something?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418867

Gadzooks1123 said:
Is there a way to get the tablet UI on the 2013 Nexus 7 yet????
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The Nexus 7 comes with a tablet UI, unless you are talking about the old UI from HoneyComb that was depreciated a while ago. I don't understand why people are still hung up on legacy layouts.
"It's very clear what Google is doing - keeping users' attention on two general parts of the homescreen UI. The search / voice / notification area, and the app drawer / nav button area. Just like a modern Android phone. It makes sense - the experience across all [stock-ish] devices is now extremely consistent."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...just-like-a-giant-phones-and-thats-fantastic/

rmkilc said:
The Nexus 7 comes with a tablet UI, unless you are talking about the old UI from HoneyComb that was depreciated a while ago. I don't understand why people are still hung up on legacy layouts.
"It's very clear what Google is doing - keeping users' attention on two general parts of the homescreen UI. The search / voice / notification area, and the app drawer / nav button area. Just like a modern Android phone. It makes sense - the experience across all [stock-ish] devices is now extremely consistent."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...just-like-a-giant-phones-and-thats-fantastic/
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Except that that is simply not the case.
On phones the navigation buttons never leave the short side of the screen leaving them easily accessible with your right thumb while in landscape. On tablets the nav bar is terrible with the buttons spread out across the bottom while holding your device in landscape. The centred buttons are barely reachable on a 7" tablet like this. On 10" devices unless you are some kind of mutant, bred to be a piano virtuoso, good luck getting your thumbs where they need to go while cradling the tablet in 2 hands. Similarly the top-of-screen based notification pull down is simply not an ergonomic solution to something that you will be doing thousands of times with your device. Again this is not so bad on a device of this size, but is seriously ridiculous on large tablets.
It is all well and good for Google to say that they want users to have the same user experience across all devices, but they do not deliver on that. Given no other option, I would far rather use this tablet in full phone mode, with navigation buttons that never leave the short edge of the screen, than use the new "Tablet UI". I have actually clicked the DPI up to 340 and find the phone UI much easier to use than the default one, with the obvious exception of the full screen notification shade (which just looks ugly on this device). At least though, this configuration would be more condusive to one handed landscape navigation.
So, for me, I am going to keep using the old tablet UI as long as Google leaves the code in there for me to use and hope that they come to their senses one day over at the AOSP and realize that they've actually taken a step backwards in terms of user friendliness.
No need for nay-sayers to jump in when someone asks for a customized user experience. That's the beauty of Android! It isn't a one size fits all, apple-corer OS. The only limit is your imagination, and how much time you want to spend learning and tweaking. I say tweak on, young man, tweak on!

rmkilc said:
The Nexus 7 comes with a tablet UI, unless you are talking about the old UI from HoneyComb that was depreciated a while ago. I don't understand why people are still hung up on legacy layouts.
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Because it's functional. The notification area is always visible even when apps are running full screen.
I can see the clock. I can see if the downloading is finished. I can see if a new email has come in.
The new Mod for tablet UI is working nicely.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/tablet-ui-mod-for-the-2013-nexus-7-on-stock-rooted-jss15q/

The ipad has a tablet ui too and its really useful. Less pressing on the back button when navigating thru the settings ap
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csrow said:
Because it's functional. The notification area is always visible even when apps are running full screen.
I can see the clock. I can see if the downloading is finished. I can see if a new email has come in.
The new Mod for tablet UI is working nicely.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/tablet-ui-mod-for-the-2013-nexus-7-on-stock-rooted-jss15q/
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The new UI is much better looking, to be fair. And the notification area on the old one felt a bit rushed - for example, if a notification came in, it hijacked the entire notification area so you couldn't get to other notifications until it was gone - or at least, that's what I thought until I figured out that (for whatever reason), notifications could be cancelled by pressing somewhere else on the navbar (in other words, that 'feature' was a nuisance and user unfriendly in many ways).
I had plenty of moments where I went to get an email by opening the notification drawer when something else suddenly notified me and I ended up somewhere I didn't want to be like Appy Geek instead.
Also, the fact that it was a tap to open instead of at least a swipe upwards made no sense at all.
I get that you power users are happy to have to practice using your technology like it's some sort of art form, but please save the rest of us the bother.

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The new UI is much better looking, to be fair. And the notification area on the old one felt a bit rushed - for example, if a notification came in, it hijacked the entire notification area so you couldn't get to other notifications until it was gone - or at least, that's what I thought until I figured out that (for whatever reason), notifications could be cancelled by pressing somewhere else on the navbar (in other words, that 'feature' was a nuisance and user unfriendly in many ways).
I had plenty of moments where I went to get an email by opening the notification drawer when something else suddenly notified me and I ended up somewhere I didn't want to be like Appy Geek instead.
Also, the fact that it was a tap to open instead of at least a swipe upwards made no sense at all.
I get that you power users are happy to have to practice using your technology like it's some sort of art form, but please save the rest of us the bother.
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Agreed, it was a very inconsistent experience. Also, trying to get expandable notifications to work properly with gestures was a pain.

That's what's great about Android on a Nexus device. You get to choose what you like and everyone will be happy.
No one option is better than another. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean someone else should not be using it.

The OP simply wanted to know if it was possible to use Table UI on the N7 v2 and everyone is on a full blown discussion of who prefers what.
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45084692
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I recommend trying out LMT (better than the pie control in paranoid/CM). I find it much better than having this blasted button bar using space all the time)
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Apex launcher has a tablet ui setting. For the most part is seems stock just bring the app icons to the bottom in landscape mode along with the app drawer in the upper right corner.

Quest for "Darkness"

Okay, maybe not as dramatic as the thread title suggests, but this is regarding the possibility of transforming the menu screens of our G2s to black.
I'm sure I'm not the only one out there, but I'm a big fan of black menus on my gadgets and computer systems. Howevevr, we have no such luck with the default LG UI on our G2s. As we all know, the default LG UI is predominantly white. Things like the settings menu, gallery, pop up notification windows, etc are all in white.
We have a bunch of talented modders here who have done some amazing work on navbars and status bars and icons, so I'd just like to know the possibilities of including a feature to turn all the system UI menus to black instead of white. I know that AOSP ROMs like CM already have that feature, but I'm not quite ready to switch over yet, without sacrificing some of the LG-exclusive features.
Just throwing out a request on behalf of the black menu lovers out there, and have an awesome weekend everyone!

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Okay, maybe not as dramatic as the thread title suggests, but this is regarding the possibility of transforming the menu screens of our G2s to black.
I'm sure I'm not the only one out there, but I'm a big fan of black menus on my gadgets and computer systems. Howevevr, we have no such luck with the default LG UI on our G2s. As we all know, the default LG UI is predominantly white. Things like the settings menu, gallery, pop up notification windows, etc are all in white.
We have a bunch of talented modders here who have done some amazing work on navbars and status bars and icons, so I'd just like to know the possibilities of including a feature to turn all the system UI menus to black instead of white. I know that AOSP ROMs like CM already have that feature, but I'm not quite ready to switch over yet, without sacrificing some of the LG-exclusive features.
Just throwing out a request on behalf of the black menu lovers out there, and have an awesome weekend everyone!
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Oh yes, please!

Nitroglycerine anyone??

I believe in a thing called love, just listen to the rhythm of my heart- The Darkness.
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C'mon dudes, Breaking Bad and musical tastes aside, it would be nice if we can have dark menus. I'm sure they would fit in nicely in a lot of custom themes we have going in our phones, more so than the boring white ones.
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I'm Ll for the dark side. The inverted vibe looks much better. Checkout team blackout apps also.
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i been lobbying to get malladus in a blacked out version...

Sepulture said:
C'mon dudes, Breaking Bad and musical tastes aside, it would be nice if we can have dark menus. I'm sure they would fit in nicely in a lot of custom themes we have going in our phones, more so than the boring white ones.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nItTOnnp_c&desktop_uri=/watch?v=3nItTOnnp_c&app=desktop
And on topic: coming from the asylum I too want everything in black. Hadn't I lost the remote by doing so I had flashed cm with the black betterbean theme.

I'll dig in to the settings, contacts and phones apks and see how hard it'll be, and either put out a mod (for VZW deodexed users), or strictly for malladus.

stetsonaw said:
I'll dig in to the settings, contacts and phones apks and see how hard it'll be, and either put out a mod (for VZW deodexed users), or strictly for malladus.
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This would be fantastic! Thanks!

once you go black...

Jakeday on rootz mentioned interest in building a blacked out malladus
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masri1987 said:
Jakeday on rootz mentioned interest in building a blacked out malladus
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Sweet. Malladus is pretty awesome so far, Blacked out would be even better, if for nothing else than the Settings and Phone/Contacts apps. I started digging around, it'll take me a bit. changed a bunch of styles in phone and contacts and all it got me was some nice looking black tabs. I didn't dig much further than that though tonight.

stetsonaw said:
Sweet. Malladus is pretty awesome so far, Blacked out would be even better, if for nothing else than the Settings and Phone/Contacts apps. I started digging around, it'll take me a bit. changed a bunch of styles in phone and contacts and all it got me was some nice looking black tabs. I didn't dig much further than that though tonight.
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pm him, see if there can be a collab or somethin

stetsonaw said:
Sweet. Malladus is pretty awesome so far, Blacked out would be even better, if for nothing else than the Settings and Phone/Contacts apps. I started digging around, it'll take me a bit. changed a bunch of styles in phone and contacts and all it got me was some nice looking black tabs. I didn't dig much further than that though tonight.
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I'm sure it's going to be a pain in the a$$ just like it was for stock Droid X (GingerBlur). Even though in the end I did end up getting it all blacked out, I hated working on that thing for that exact reason. There's so many things to change, and in so many different places. Plus, back then I had a lot more motivation, and it helped that I had some collaboration with travp624, unkleduke, and kirbnite, but that was almost 3 years ago...lol
I hope you guys get it figured out; I wouldn't mind trying it out. I'd most likely just end up going back to CM10.2 since I like stock-like Android better than I do skinned Android, but that's just me. Once I got the Gnex, I just couldn't go back to skinned android

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I'm sure it's going to be a pain in the a$$ just like it was for stock Droid X (GingerBlur). Even though in the end I did end up getting it all blacked out, I hated working on that thing for that exact reason. There's so many things to change, and in so many different places. Plus, back then I had a lot more motivation, and it helped that I had some collaboration with travp624, unkleduke, and kirbnite, but that was almost 3 years ago...lol
I hope you guys get it figured out; I wouldn't mind trying it out. I'd most likely just end up going back to CM10.2 since I like stock-like Android better than I do skinned Android, but that's just me. Once I got the Gnex, I just couldn't go back to skinned android
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I would jump to Carbon right now, but i would have to be dragged kicking and screaming away from knock-off and the OIS camera. And the "put the phone to ear whilst ringing to answer" gesture.

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I would jump to Carbon right now, but i would have to be dragged kicking and screaming away from knock-off and the OIS camera. And the "put the phone to ear whilst ringing to answer" gesture.
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I could help you out with the "knock off" portion, but the other two points, you're on your own with those...lol

bouchigo said:
I could help you out with the "knock off" portion, but the other two points, you're on your own with those...lol
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Please tell me you have something other than a toggle in the quick settings for "screen off/lock". i like not having to look at the screen, and just knowing where the status bar is to double tap. Although, i could survive with a long press option for the Recents button though.

stetsonaw said:
Please tell me you have something other than a toggle in the quick settings for "screen off/lock". i like not having to look at the screen, and just knowing where the status bar is to double tap. Although, i could survive with a long press option for the Recents button though.
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It's not a toggle, I would be annoyed by that too...lol
It requires running a third party launcher though. I myself run Nova launcher. You can create a task with Tasker, or if you don't want to pay for Tasker, or don't already own it, you can use "Screen Off and Lock" from the Play Store.
Once you set either Tasker or Screen Off and Lock, you can set the action as a gesture in the Launcher. I have mine setup with a double tap anywhere on the screen to "knock off"; It works really well.

bouchigo said:
It's not a toggle, I would be annoyed by that too...lol
It requires running a third party launcher though. I myself run Nova launcher. You can create a task with Tasker, or if you don't want to pay for Tasker, or don't already own it, you can use "Screen Off and Lock" from the Play Store.
Once you set either Tasker or Screen Off and Lock, you can set the action as a gesture in the Launcher. I have mine setup with a double tap anywhere on the screen to "knock off"; It works really well.
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Bad part is, that only works when you are on the launcher. I own Nova prime (or whatever the premium version is), and Tasker as well, but right now I'm completely hooked on Aviate. Eventually CM will port/create "double tap statusbar to turn screen off/lock". They already have knock on, which you would think would be the hardest one, ensuring that there is a listener when the screen is off and such.

First impressions of motox by previous S3/note2 owner

I've been interested in the Motox ever since I saw the touchless control (we are getting closer and closer to the star trek computer).
My 3 year experience with Android has been 99% Samsung. Today I went into Rogers to see how the Motox feels in the hand and they had a working display unit. And I have to say, although I'm not that impressed with the physical feel of the phone. The responsiveness is amazing. I can't believe there are no jitters or Jerkiness or lag when swiping between home pages. And a true indicator of the speed of this phone is the app drawer when transitioning between apps and widgets I every Samsung device there's a stutter when doing this. Not so on the Motox.
I did the mange to open any apps because I was in a rush.
Very impressed I'm looking for a used one. But not any are up for sale.
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Check swappa.com, I just bought one from there
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I too came from an s3 and spent the vast majority of my time on android with Samsung. This phone is, simply, amazing in comparison to my old s3... The s3 doesn't even compare to the moto x.
Moto X rocking 4.4

Same, made the switch to a dev edition and never looked back.
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I'm glad t to see these posts. I'm an S3 user currently, but plan on leaving Sprint for Verizon in the next week or so and this is the phone I've been thinking of getting. Thanks for helping me make up my mind :beer:
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So I ended up buying a slightly used Motox and I'm so glad. Some of my first impressions:
Cons
*no Control panel in the notification shade
*I liked the settings key on my S3, very handy. why do we need the all apps key.
*No Physical home key. Although I am getting use to the onscreen buttons.
*Wireless charging. I got use to this on my S3. I don't know why manufactures aren't including this.
*No letters in the contacts, when I open the contacts app on the S3 it had the letters on the right so you can quickly scroll to the name you want.
*Can't delete or add home screens. What the heck?
*I don't like the Carrier name in the notification shade
*Gallery app, not as good as the Samsung app. In the Samsung app you could drag and drop pictures into other folders (very useful)
Pros
*Smoothness
*touches control
*Transitions between app drawer and widgets is fantastic no lag
*Opening up the play store and pressing the menu, also no lag. Samsung should take notes.
*scrolling Smoothness is unreal.
*Speed of the device, everything opens up so much faster and with no lag, compared to my galaxy S3. This phone really proves you don't need high specs to run smooth. Just less bloat (touchwiz)
Notes
Screen size. Would have been better as a 4.8" screen. I don't care much about 720 vs 1080. But a slightly bigger screen would have been nice
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Jamolah said:
So I ended up buying a slightly used Motox and I'm so glad. Some of my first impressions:
Cons
*no Control panel in the notification shade
*I liked the settings key on my S3, very handy. why do we need the all apps key.
*No Physical home key. Although I am getting use to the onscreen buttons.
*Wireless charging. I got use to this on my S3. I don't know why manufactures aren't including this.
*No letters in the contacts, when I open the contacts app on the S3 it had the letters on the right so you can quickly scroll to the name you want.
*Can't delete or add home screens. What the heck?
*I don't like the Carrier name in the notification shade
*Gallery app, not as good as the Samsung app. In the Samsung app you could drag and drop pictures into other folders (very useful)
Pros
*Smoothness
*touches control
*Transitions between app drawer and widgets is fantastic no lag
*Opening up the play store and pressing the menu, also no lag. Samsung should take notes.
*scrolling Smoothness is unreal.
*Speed of the device, everything opens up so much faster and with no lag, compared to my galaxy S3. This phone really proves you don't need high specs to run smooth. Just less bloat (touchwiz)
Notes
Screen size. Would have been better as a 4.8" screen. I don't care much about 720 vs 1080. But a slightly bigger screen would have been nice
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There are controls in the shade. Either pull down with two fingers or hit the icon in top right hand corner when shade is pulled down. There are tour toggles. As you use the phone more or have things on ie bluetooth it adds to the shade.
As for settings key I'm not sure what you're talking about. Maybe the menu button?
Although not idea, you can download a third party launcher. That will allow you to change amount of home screens. 4.4 will have this baked in though.
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Another thing you might not have realized but in contacts, if you scroll your finger down the right hand side, letters pop up and move quickly through your contacts.
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icon123 said:
Another thing you might not have realized but in contacts, if you scroll your finger down the right hand side, letters pop up and move quickly through your contacts.
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Wow...learned something new today.

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There are controls in the shade. Either pull down with two fingers or hit the icon in top right hand corner when shade is pulled down. There are tour toggles. As you use the phone more or have things on ie bluetooth it adds to the shade.
As for settings key I'm not sure what you're talking about. Maybe the menu button?
Although not idea, you can download a third party launcher. That will allow you to change amount of home screens. 4.4 will have this baked in though.
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Yes I know you can pull it down with two fingers but a lot of times I am in the car using it with 1 hand and with Samsung (touchwiz) it was one swipe down gave you access to common controls
Yes that's what I meant a menu button. It's a lot handier than the all apps button, no?!
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Yes I know you can pull it down with two fingers but a lot of times I am in the car using it with 1 hand and with Samsung (touchwiz) it was one swipe down gave you access to common controls
Yes that's what I meant a menu button. It's a lot handier than the all apps button, no?!
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I use Nova Launcher Prime and set a swipe up gesture to bring up the control panel.

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Yes I know you can pull it down with two fingers but a lot of times I am in the car using it with 1 hand and with Samsung (touchwiz) it was one swipe down gave you access to common controls
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when you have the notification shade pulled down, tap the top right corner of the screen.

One other pet peeve with the motox is volume control. With touchwiz when you press the volume buttons you get a little settings icon which you can press to adjust different volumes(media, ringer, alarms) it was very handy. Wish the X had that. It's a little thing, but very useful.
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Jamolah said:
One other pet peeve with the motox is volume control. With touchwiz when you press the volume buttons you get a little settings icon which you can press to adjust different volumes(media, ringer, alarms) it was very handy. Wish the X had that. It's a little thing, but very useful.
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If you root and download xposed you can enable it.
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bd1212 said:
If you root and download xposed you can enable it.
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Sorry, what's Xposed?

The menu button has been obsolete for a while now. Apps will have a menu button showing, or one will show up on the on navigation bar. I will not buy a phone with physical buttons anymore.
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T-Keith said:
The menu button has been obsolete for a while now. Apps will have a menu button showing, or one will show up on the on navigation bar. I will not buy a phone with physical buttons anymore.
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It's easier to press anything on the lower half of the screen with 1 hand than at the very top corners. To me, the settings button is not obsolete for 1 hand use that doesn't require stretching or shifting my hand around.

Currently have an HTC one been looking at Moto x and LG g2
Moto obviously has the best radios in the biz and that's the main factor for moto x
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I'm coming from an S3 aswell and I have to say that the menu button was indeed very handy. It's easier than having to find the icon that takes different places in each app, also saves screen space.
2. The physical/sensitive buttons are a lot better than the virtual ones. Although I'm getting used to it, the physical ones do never takes screen space. Some apps don't handle the virtual buttons very well. Also, it was easier when the phone was at the table or somewhere and I could just press the home button to check battery level and the time. With Moto X I need to grab it and press the power button.
3. I have some favorites in the contacts list and the scroll doens't seem to show over them, I have to scroll down a little till the numbers and then only after I can use the right side scroll through letters. Very annoying.
4. I took like 100 photos with the camera and some I couldn't even recognize the people in it. The focus is very slow, and the quality is terrible.
5. I live in Brazil and the touchless control/google now is useless here. It's only useful to check weather and search the web, as the other commands are not available in portuguese.
Beside those, and the touchless control not being available, and the camera, the Moto X is much nicer than the S3. It's impressively fast and smooth; the sound (in my opinion) is much better, without trembles; the hardware seems much more well finished; the battery is impressively better, with the Moto X I could get a day and 5 hours and on the S3 I could barely get 22 hours; it seems to charge a lot faster aswell;
And that's it! For future people coming from S3, if you don't care for the camera that much, move on to Moto X and will be a good upgrade. I do miss the S3 camera where it was only point and shot, and 90% of the time it was a great picture. With Moto X I get to shoot 10 to get 1 good to use. But that's it, the rest is great.

Nexus 6 Improved One Handed Use Mods & Apps

So, the Nexus 6 is huge. That is not exactly a bad thing, but one handed use difficult. The screen is gorgeous but makes the device hard to use in one hand for the majority of its owners. Since the Nexus 6 runs stock Lollipop, it doesn't come with any features that make one handed use any easier when you need it. I made this thread with one goal in mind: A place to share any mods or apps that you know of that improve one handed use. Please leave a post in this thread with any mods that you know of and I'll update my post with a list of all the mods mentioned. Also, please mention if the mod or app requires root or not. The whole Nexus 6 community thanks you for your help. :victory:
APPS
LMT Launcher (Root/No Root) - Gesture based homescreen launcher.
SwiftKey Keyboard (No Root) - Keyboard with compact mode for one handed typing.
Swype Keyboard (No Root) - Same as SwiftKey.
Pie Control (Root/No Root) - Navigation bar that you can use by swiping in from any side. Has many settings that can be configured.
MODS
LiquidSmooth ROM - Allows you to rearrange the navigation bar icons, letting you position the icons towards one side for easier one handed use.

elvintopalov said:
So, the Nexus 6 is huge. That is not exactly a bad thing, but one handed use difficult. The screen is gorgeous but makes the device hard to use in one hand for the majority of its owners. Since the Nexus 6 runs stock Lollipop, it doesn't come with any features that make one handed use any easier when you need it. I made this thread with one goal in mind: A place to share any mods such as xposed modules or apps that you know of that improve one handed use. Please leave a post in this thread with any mods that you know of and I'll update my post with a list of all the mods mentioned. Also, please mention if the mod requires root or not. The whole Nexus 6 community thanks you for your help. :victory:
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xposed doesnt work on lollipop, and probably never will. as lollipop runs on art and not dalvik. besides, ive used the past 3 nexus phones with two hands, not one hand. and its much more convenient that way

simms22 said:
xposed doesnt work on lollipop, and probably never will. as lollipop runs on art and not dalvik. besides, ive used the past 3 nexus phones with two hands, not one hand. and its much more convenient that way
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Thanks for the information, I'll update the post. And I understand 2 hands is much more convenient, but sometimes there is the occasion where you need to use one hand, such as in school.

elvintopalov said:
Thanks for the information, I'll update the post. And I understand 2 hands is much more convenient, but sometimes there is the occasion where you need to use one hand, such as in school.
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not here. been out of school for 25 years
but multi-windows would be cool. the middle of last year, i saw that google was working on it, and thought that it would be included into the nexus 6. i guess its not ready yet.

simms22 said:
not here. been out of school for 25 years
but multi-windows would be cool. the middle of last year, i saw that google was working on it, and thought that it would be included into the nexus 6. i guess its not ready yet.
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Maybe it will be unveiled with the next version of Android? I hope so.

elvintopalov said:
Maybe it will be unveiled with the next version of Android? I hope so.
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hope so. as for the screen size, multi-windows on a nexus 6 could be very handy.

elvintopalov said:
So, the Nexus 6 is huge. That is not exactly a bad thing, but one handed use difficult. The screen is gorgeous but makes the device hard to use in one hand for the majority of its owners. Since the Nexus 6 runs stock Lollipop, it doesn't come with any features that make one handed use any easier when you need it. I made this thread with one goal in mind: A place to share any mods or apps that you know of that improve one handed use. Please leave a post in this thread with any mods that you know of and I'll update my post with a list of all the mods mentioned. Also, please mention if the mod requires root or not. The whole Nexus 6 community thanks you for your help. :victory:
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Swiftkey may have a feature that makes the keyboard smaller for typing with one hand. I know the feature exists for tablets, not sure if it also exists for phones.

Use lmt launcher. Works without root too

Swiftkey and Swype both offer a reduction in keyboard size for the N6.

Use Pie Control. Doesn't require root. You swipe from the side of screen to a set of preconfigured settings. Pretty good

I managed to learn how to type one handed with mine and I have small hands. The only issue for me is trying to reach the back or multitasking button depending on which hand is holding the phone. If I could move that closer, I'd be beyond happy. The only way I can reach is now is sliding my hand down and holding it on the bottom. I just get nervous doing that one handed as I really don't want to see if my case will protect my phone if I drop it.

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I managed to learn how to type one handed with mine and I have small hands. The only issue for me is trying to reach the back or multitasking button depending on which hand is holding the phone. If I could move that closer, I'd be beyond happy. The only way I can reach is now is sliding my hand down and holding it on the bottom. I just get nervous doing that one handed as I really don't want to see if my case will protect my phone if I drop it.
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In liquid smooth you can change the position of the buttons by inserting menu button to the LEFT side (still appears on the right). Helps a lot don't know if other ROMs have this also.

I use extended desktop and pie controls on the right side of the phone

Thanks for the recommendations everyone! I just updated my post to include the lists of mods and apps that you all gave.:good:

dont forget the MCR Mod Pack! allows you to swap your nav keys around and toggle left/right handed use. comes bundled with double tap to wake and notification light use. First thing i'd download onto my nexus tbh, dispenses with all that messing around for individual mods

simms22 said:
xposed doesnt work on lollipop, and probably never will. as lollipop runs on art and not dalvik. besides, ive used the past 3 nexus phones with two hands, not one hand. and its much more convenient that way
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I haven't tried it yet, but I think there's now a Lollipop/art-compatible version of Xposed. Not all the modules work, so I don't if whatever Xposed-based solution the OP had in mind would work, but it might.

Flygrip

Try PAC-ROM. It has a app circle bar that is fully customizable and allows you to tap a particular are on the side of your screen to get a 'pie-ish' circle app launcher!

Since xposed is working now, you can use "Niwatori" and "one hand mode" modules. these will re-size the whole screen according to your liking. And MCR modpack has the one sided nav bar