Flat PIE or PIEbar - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The functionality of the navbar can be modified extensively. You can make it autohide like the dock in OS X or the taskbar in windows, you can add custom buttons to it, change the location of the buttons, change what the buttons do and give them longpress functionality, and so forth.
But you can't make it do the one thing that makes PIE brilliant: be always hidden, and pop up instantly as you slide from an edge onto a button, and simultaneously and instantaneously disappear and activate the button as you lift your finger.
So I like the PIE metaphor, but I don't like its semicircle shape or the fact that you can't customize it. Therefore, how can I give the navbar the functionality that PIE has, underlined above? Or, not as good but still better than default PIE, how can I make PIE flat instead of semicircle?

Personally I hate PIE, find it annoying. I hope it never finds a way into AOSP.

knitler said:
Personally I hate PIE, find it annoying. I hope it never finds a way into AOSP.
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That's fine. It's also completely irrelevant lol... I'm just looking for info on how I can modify the navbar to have PIE functionality (or alternatively, how to change PIE to a flat shape like the navbar).

You're right. I probably shouldn't have posted.

I've been wanting the same thing. Hopefully its possible.
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knitler said:
Personally I hate PIE, find it annoying. I hope it never finds a way into AOSP.
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You know you can disable it right? Even on PA you don't have to use PIE if you don't want to.

why not simply using tablet ui. you get one small combined bar, left side buttons right side status informations and notifications.

personally i love the pie idea *not the flat bar* coz of full screen gaming..

molesarecoming said:
why not simply using tablet ui. you get one small combined bar, left side buttons right side status informations and notifications.
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Because that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. It doesn't feature what I explained above..."the one thing that makes PIE brilliant: be always hidden, and pop up instantly as you slide from an edge onto a button, and simultaneously and instantaneously disappear and activate the button as you lift your finger."
It's the combination of not being on the screen ever except for a split second, and the ability to slide onto a button and lift up to activate it.
You are a developer, do you know what I would have to modify to make the navbar function like this? Or, alternatively, to make PIE in a flat, navbar-like theme instead of sci-fi semicircle?

I think PIE beats any cyonegen ROM functions...PIE will end up being part of android OS in the future, its so simple and clean, it can't be annoying because the blackberry z10 utilizes touch/swipe everything to use the phone..
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androidfoshizzle said:
I think PIE beats any cyonegen ROM functions...PIE will end up being part of android OS in the future, its so simple and clean, it can't be annoying because the blackberry z10 utilizes touch/swipe everything to use the phone..
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Please stay on topic. We are not discussing the merits of pie in here.
OP what you requested should be possible. However, whether someone will step up to the challenge is a different question.
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I think another idea about Pie, would be to have a Navbar that comes up like pie. I mean, that when you drag the finger up from the bottom, rather than having a semicircle (pie) shape, you could have the a rectangular bar with buttons (something like the nav bar). So rather than dragging the finger diagonally to the buttons, the user could drag up(start rectangular pie) and then drag to the left or right.
I know it sounds a bit wonky, but I think it's a neat idea. I would make a few conceptual images later today. IMO pie in it's current form is amazing. I am really looking forward to see where Pie development goes.

I believe AOKP has a navbar option that auto-hides it with a small trigger to bring it back up, similar to the Windows auto-hide taskbar option.

ak700 said:
I think another idea about Pie, would be to have a Navbar that comes up like pie. I mean, that when you drag the finger up from the bottom, rather than having a semicircle (pie) shape, you could have the a rectangular bar with buttons (something like the nav bar). So rather than dragging the finger diagonally to the buttons, the user could drag up(start rectangular pie) and then drag to the left or right
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That's EXACTLY what I'm describing. I love PIE, I don't love the semicircle shape, I prefer a bar shape. At the same time, you can customize the navbar but you can't customize PIE, so I'd like to just give PIE functionality to the navbar.
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I believe AOKP has a navbar option that auto-hides it with a small trigger to bring it back up, similar to the Windows auto-hide taskbar option.
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Ya a lot of ROMs do. It doesn't really accomplish anything like what PIE does (as described in my posts above). That's why I'm trying to give PIE functionality to the navbar.
It doesn't really seem like it would be very complicated to theme PIE into a flat bar shape, to look like the navbar. I'm willing to do the coding if someone can explain what I need to do. Really though, like I've been saying, the navbar is customizable whereas PIE isn't, so I'd prefer to code PIE functionality into the navbar.

.psd said:
That's EXACTLY what I'm describing. I love PIE, I don't love the semicircle shape, I prefer a bar shape. At the same time, you can customize the navbar but you can't customize PIE, so I'd like to just give PIE functionality to the navbar.
Ya a lot of ROMs do. It doesn't really accomplish anything like what PIE does (as described in my posts above). That's why I'm trying to give PIE functionality to the navbar.
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I suppose there's some difference. I use LMT to get PIE controls on CM 10.1 (the default implementation is pretty limited) and it's not much different from the AOKP feature I mentioned. I hope you find what you're looking for.

snapper.fishes said:
Please stay on topic. We are not discussing the merits of pie in here.
OP what you requested should be possible. However, whether someone will step up to the challenge is a different question.
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And the topic is about PIE so all things related can be said
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androidfoshizzle said:
And the topic is about PIE so all things related can be said
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No it is not. The topic of this thread is about whether it is possible to create a hybrid of pie and the navbar with the appearance of the navbar but with the functionality of PIE. If you wish to discuss the navbar, you are free to discuss it in your own thread.
Furthermore, this thread is in the Q&A section. OP asked a question, so your post should answer his question. This is not General Discussion.
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.psd said:
That's EXACTLY what I'm describing. I love PIE, I don't love the semicircle shape, I prefer a bar shape. At the same time, you can customize the navbar but you can't customize PIE, so I'd like to just give PIE functionality to the navbar.
Ya a lot of ROMs do. It doesn't really accomplish anything like what PIE does (as described in my posts above). That's why I'm trying to give PIE functionality to the navbar.
It doesn't really seem like it would be very complicated to theme PIE into a flat bar shape, to look like the navbar. I'm willing to do the coding if someone can explain what I need to do. Really though, like I've been saying, the navbar is customizable whereas PIE isn't, so I'd prefer to code PIE functionality into the navbar.
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Why not send an email to the PA developers? The codes should be available, so all you really need to ask is which section of the code affects PIE.
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snapper.fishes said:
No it is not. The topic of this thread is about whether it is possible to create a hybrid of pie and the navbar with the appearance of the navbar but with the functionality of PIE. If you wish to discuss the navbar, you are free to discuss it in your own thread
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Why not send an email to the PA developers? The codes should be available, so all you really need to ask is which section of the code affects PIE.
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You like quoting people I see, how about you quote the person that said they didn't like pie? Its the 2nd or 3rd post..who wants a pie nave bar when its doesn't need to be messed with, don't quote me a 3rd I won't respond
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This mod works on the n4. I used it early on before pie caught on. U can use the full screen toggle app with button savior app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497558
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androidfoshizzle said:
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Please get out of this thread unless, like snapper.fishes said, you have information on how to mod a hybrid with the appearance and customizability of the navbar and the functionality of PIE.
DowntownJeffBrown said:
This mod works on the n4...
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Thanks but it's not at all what I'm trying to accomplish. People have offered up various alternatives so I should be clear:
What PIE does is very unique, and things like hidden navbar and button savior are entirely unlike it. It's the mechanism of sliding from an edge > buttons appear > lift finger > button activates as the menu disappears. It's a very brilliant, modern paradigm, seen in UIs like Ubuntu Phone
snapper.fishes said:
Why not send an email to the PA developers?
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I feel like they wouldn't care what I have to say, though I guess it's worth a shot... Really I thought I could find an answer fairly quick around here but that's not panning out so well lol.

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What ROMs include pie WITH the last app button

I'm trying to figure out which ROMs have it so I can try them out and see which one of them I like best. Thanks in advance
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Install LMT launcher and you will even have it with the stock or any other rom (root required). Available here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150.
if you want to see pie grow use pa, this is where it comes from anyway and this is where it gets better almost daily. rootbox is developing it as well in their own way, which is cool.
lmt on the other hand is almost a carbon copy, but lacks function where it matters and lacks badly. even bringing it up is silly - on the nexus plattform, where almost all rom have pie because its open source. except cm.
why'd anyone wanna make do with a hack. you know, you dont have to see android progressing, but getting the newest and seeing ideas take shape and form is so much more fun than taking substitutes. thats why we're on nexus, no?
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if you want to see pie grow use pa, this is where it comes from anyway and this is where it gets better almost daily. rootbox is developing it as well in their own way, which is cool.
lmt on the other hand is almost a carbon copy, but lacks function where it matters and lacks badly. even bringing it up is silly - on the nexus plattform, where almost all rom have pie because its open source. except cm.
why'd anyone wanna make do with a hack. you know, you dont have to see android progressing, but getting the newest and seeing ideas take shape and form is so much more fun than taking substitutes. thats why we're on nexus, no?
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Well put, thanks for your hard work but I was under the impression that pie on paranoid didn't have the last app button or am I mistaken?
molesarecoming said:
if you want to see pie grow use pa, this is where it comes from anyway and this is where it gets better almost daily. rootbox is developing it as well in their own way, which is cool.
lmt on the other hand is almost a carbon copy, but lacks function where it matters and lacks badly. even bringing it up is silly - on the nexus plattform, where almost all rom have pie because its open source. except cm.
why'd anyone wanna make do with a hack. you know, you dont have to see android progressing, but getting the newest and seeing ideas take shape and form is so much more fun than taking substitutes. thats why we're on nexus, no?
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Not all rooted users choose to install a custom rom, for those users LMT is a nice solution PA offering Pie control is a well known fact i presume.
afbengochea said:
Well put, thanks for your hard work but I was under the impression that pie on paranoid didn't have the last app button or am I mistaken?
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By that I assume you mean multitasking right? Then yes, yes it does. If it's not enabled by default (which I'm pretty sure it is) then it'll almost certainly be somewhere in the settings.
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By that I assume you mean multitasking right? Then yes, yes it does. If it's not enabled by default (which I'm pretty sure it is) then it'll almost certainly be somewhere in the settings.
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Not the recents button, there's actually a button which switches between the app your on and the last app you were on. Think of like the alt+tab shortcut on windows. Where you switch between two apps back and forth. I know AOKP does it but they don't have pie. Carbon and xylon both seem to have it with pie implemented, I was wondering what other ROMs have it. I've attached a picture of xylon with the last app being the one furthest to the right
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Not the recents button, there's actually a button which switches between the app your on and the last app you were on. Think of like the alt+tab shortcut on windows. Where you switch between two apps back and forth. I know AOKP does it but they don't have pie. Carbon and xylon both seem to have it with pie implemented, I was wondering what other ROMs have it. I've attached a picture of xylon with the last app being the one furthest to the right
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Ah my bad sorry. In that case, unfortunately I think not.
Try rootbox, the latest nightly runs great on this device and has a lot of customizing options for pie control.
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Not the recents button, there's actually a button which switches between the app your on and the last app you were on. Think of like the alt+tab shortcut on windows. Where you switch between two apps back and forth. I know AOKP does it but they don't have pie. Carbon and xylon both seem to have it with pie implemented, I was wondering what other ROMs have it. I've attached a picture of xylon with the last app being the one furthest to the right
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I've never even heard of that.
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Personally I use paranoid android and the only reason is that I like the extended desktop feature which hides the soft keys and whenever you need it you just swipe from the bottom and you get pie
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OP, I THINK E.L.E. has the last app button.
+1 for RootBox.

Transparent navbar all the time.

Hey. I have always wondered, why is it not possible when having transparent navbar in the apps? Just look at LG G2, its transparent in the camera and on the homescreen, so why isnt it possible? Or is it to hard to code?
jabbeboy said:
Hey. I have always wondered, why is it not possible when having transparent navbar in the apps? Just look at LG G2, its transparent in the camera and on the homescreen, so why isnt it possible? Or is it to hard to code?
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I've seen it a few times in custom ROMs - Carbon I think? I remember crdroid used to have it as well, but not on purpose
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Tom540 said:
I've seen it a few times in custom ROMs - Carbon I think? I remember crdroid used to have it as well, but not on purpose
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Ahaa yea i have also seen it in chrome browser with paranoid, but as you say not on purpuse, more a bug.. But i think maybe the people that are more intrested in these codes and things and more experience than me should look in G2s framework and see what the can find Its transparent in the camera as you can see on pictures.
Slimbean and Odyssey have it, that's why I stick to them...I love that feature. It's my alternative to pie, trans navbar and hidden and trans sbar. I'm on Odyssey now and love it just as much as I did illusion on 4.2, illusion was also based on slim. I've attached a pic of my home screen, to give you an idea.
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Slimbean and Odyssey have it, that's why I stick to them...I love that feature. It's my alternative to pie, trans navbar and hidden and trans sbar. I'm on Odyssey now and love it just as much as I did illusion on 4.2, illusion was also based on slim. I've attached a pic of my home screen, to give you an idea.
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Oh sweet But is that only on the homescreen? I have carbon and if its only on the homescreen and statusbar, then i have i also, but i want in the apps
jabbeboy said:
Oh sweet But is that only on the homescreen? I have carbon and if its only on the homescreen and statusbar, then i have i also, but i want in the apps
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I had that feature once, don't remember the Rom but when I enabled it, it made it somewhat harder to navigate because very often the background is white or a very light color. Another option is to change the height of your nav bar in settings, other than that try PIE.
Fwiw, I prefer the lack of transparency on the nav bar in apps.
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3dupunk said:
I had that feature once, don't remember the Rom but when I enabled it, it made it somewhat harder to navigate because very often the background is white or a very light color. Another option is to change the height of your nav bar in settings, other than that try PIE.
Fwiw, I prefer the lack of transparency on the nav bar in apps.
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Okey. Yea i guess that feature is not ment to be working.
I have carbon now, but it hasnt the PIE, so i guess i have to go with the regular bar.
The reason is because most apps do not draw behind the status bar. So even if it is transparent. It will still show as black because there is nothing behind it.
That is why for those with the transparent notification it only works on the launcher, lock screen & a few apps.
On previous phones I have had some modifications include stretching apps out so that they are behind the status bar resulting in a transparent bar always working however I'm not sure I've seen any such mod for the nexus 4
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Quest for "Darkness"

Okay, maybe not as dramatic as the thread title suggests, but this is regarding the possibility of transforming the menu screens of our G2s to black.
I'm sure I'm not the only one out there, but I'm a big fan of black menus on my gadgets and computer systems. Howevevr, we have no such luck with the default LG UI on our G2s. As we all know, the default LG UI is predominantly white. Things like the settings menu, gallery, pop up notification windows, etc are all in white.
We have a bunch of talented modders here who have done some amazing work on navbars and status bars and icons, so I'd just like to know the possibilities of including a feature to turn all the system UI menus to black instead of white. I know that AOSP ROMs like CM already have that feature, but I'm not quite ready to switch over yet, without sacrificing some of the LG-exclusive features.
Just throwing out a request on behalf of the black menu lovers out there, and have an awesome weekend everyone!
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Okay, maybe not as dramatic as the thread title suggests, but this is regarding the possibility of transforming the menu screens of our G2s to black.
I'm sure I'm not the only one out there, but I'm a big fan of black menus on my gadgets and computer systems. Howevevr, we have no such luck with the default LG UI on our G2s. As we all know, the default LG UI is predominantly white. Things like the settings menu, gallery, pop up notification windows, etc are all in white.
We have a bunch of talented modders here who have done some amazing work on navbars and status bars and icons, so I'd just like to know the possibilities of including a feature to turn all the system UI menus to black instead of white. I know that AOSP ROMs like CM already have that feature, but I'm not quite ready to switch over yet, without sacrificing some of the LG-exclusive features.
Just throwing out a request on behalf of the black menu lovers out there, and have an awesome weekend everyone!
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Oh yes, please!
Nitroglycerine anyone??
I believe in a thing called love, just listen to the rhythm of my heart- The Darkness.
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C'mon dudes, Breaking Bad and musical tastes aside, it would be nice if we can have dark menus. I'm sure they would fit in nicely in a lot of custom themes we have going in our phones, more so than the boring white ones.
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I'm Ll for the dark side. The inverted vibe looks much better. Checkout team blackout apps also.
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i been lobbying to get malladus in a blacked out version...
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C'mon dudes, Breaking Bad and musical tastes aside, it would be nice if we can have dark menus. I'm sure they would fit in nicely in a lot of custom themes we have going in our phones, more so than the boring white ones.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nItTOnnp_c&desktop_uri=/watch?v=3nItTOnnp_c&app=desktop
And on topic: coming from the asylum I too want everything in black. Hadn't I lost the remote by doing so I had flashed cm with the black betterbean theme.
I'll dig in to the settings, contacts and phones apks and see how hard it'll be, and either put out a mod (for VZW deodexed users), or strictly for malladus.
stetsonaw said:
I'll dig in to the settings, contacts and phones apks and see how hard it'll be, and either put out a mod (for VZW deodexed users), or strictly for malladus.
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This would be fantastic! Thanks!
once you go black...
Jakeday on rootz mentioned interest in building a blacked out malladus
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masri1987 said:
Jakeday on rootz mentioned interest in building a blacked out malladus
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Sweet. Malladus is pretty awesome so far, Blacked out would be even better, if for nothing else than the Settings and Phone/Contacts apps. I started digging around, it'll take me a bit. changed a bunch of styles in phone and contacts and all it got me was some nice looking black tabs. I didn't dig much further than that though tonight.
stetsonaw said:
Sweet. Malladus is pretty awesome so far, Blacked out would be even better, if for nothing else than the Settings and Phone/Contacts apps. I started digging around, it'll take me a bit. changed a bunch of styles in phone and contacts and all it got me was some nice looking black tabs. I didn't dig much further than that though tonight.
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pm him, see if there can be a collab or somethin
stetsonaw said:
Sweet. Malladus is pretty awesome so far, Blacked out would be even better, if for nothing else than the Settings and Phone/Contacts apps. I started digging around, it'll take me a bit. changed a bunch of styles in phone and contacts and all it got me was some nice looking black tabs. I didn't dig much further than that though tonight.
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I'm sure it's going to be a pain in the a$$ just like it was for stock Droid X (GingerBlur). Even though in the end I did end up getting it all blacked out, I hated working on that thing for that exact reason. There's so many things to change, and in so many different places. Plus, back then I had a lot more motivation, and it helped that I had some collaboration with travp624, unkleduke, and kirbnite, but that was almost 3 years ago...lol
I hope you guys get it figured out; I wouldn't mind trying it out. I'd most likely just end up going back to CM10.2 since I like stock-like Android better than I do skinned Android, but that's just me. Once I got the Gnex, I just couldn't go back to skinned android
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I'm sure it's going to be a pain in the a$$ just like it was for stock Droid X (GingerBlur). Even though in the end I did end up getting it all blacked out, I hated working on that thing for that exact reason. There's so many things to change, and in so many different places. Plus, back then I had a lot more motivation, and it helped that I had some collaboration with travp624, unkleduke, and kirbnite, but that was almost 3 years ago...lol
I hope you guys get it figured out; I wouldn't mind trying it out. I'd most likely just end up going back to CM10.2 since I like stock-like Android better than I do skinned Android, but that's just me. Once I got the Gnex, I just couldn't go back to skinned android
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I would jump to Carbon right now, but i would have to be dragged kicking and screaming away from knock-off and the OIS camera. And the "put the phone to ear whilst ringing to answer" gesture.
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I would jump to Carbon right now, but i would have to be dragged kicking and screaming away from knock-off and the OIS camera. And the "put the phone to ear whilst ringing to answer" gesture.
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I could help you out with the "knock off" portion, but the other two points, you're on your own with those...lol
bouchigo said:
I could help you out with the "knock off" portion, but the other two points, you're on your own with those...lol
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Please tell me you have something other than a toggle in the quick settings for "screen off/lock". i like not having to look at the screen, and just knowing where the status bar is to double tap. Although, i could survive with a long press option for the Recents button though.
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Please tell me you have something other than a toggle in the quick settings for "screen off/lock". i like not having to look at the screen, and just knowing where the status bar is to double tap. Although, i could survive with a long press option for the Recents button though.
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It's not a toggle, I would be annoyed by that too...lol
It requires running a third party launcher though. I myself run Nova launcher. You can create a task with Tasker, or if you don't want to pay for Tasker, or don't already own it, you can use "Screen Off and Lock" from the Play Store.
Once you set either Tasker or Screen Off and Lock, you can set the action as a gesture in the Launcher. I have mine setup with a double tap anywhere on the screen to "knock off"; It works really well.
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It's not a toggle, I would be annoyed by that too...lol
It requires running a third party launcher though. I myself run Nova launcher. You can create a task with Tasker, or if you don't want to pay for Tasker, or don't already own it, you can use "Screen Off and Lock" from the Play Store.
Once you set either Tasker or Screen Off and Lock, you can set the action as a gesture in the Launcher. I have mine setup with a double tap anywhere on the screen to "knock off"; It works really well.
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Bad part is, that only works when you are on the launcher. I own Nova prime (or whatever the premium version is), and Tasker as well, but right now I'm completely hooked on Aviate. Eventually CM will port/create "double tap statusbar to turn screen off/lock". They already have knock on, which you would think would be the hardest one, ensuring that there is a listener when the screen is off and such.

Double tap+slide down from status bar opens QS with one swipe

I accidentally stumbled upon this today, wasn't sure how I did it, kept tapping and swiping till it happened again. In addition to this, I've also found that swiping up from on or below the nav bar hides QS and/or notifications with just one swipe. However I can't seem to reproduce this 100% of the time.
Edit: ...The reason I went with "double-tap + swipe-down" was mainly due to a few popular apps using the term for gestures and that's how they word it. So yeah - 2 short rapid fire tap-swipes(down) on the status bar will produce the same outcome as "double-tap + swipe-down"....
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I accidentally stumbled upon this today, wasn't sure how I did it, kept tapping and swiping till it happened again. In addition to this, I've also found that swiping up from on or below the nav bar hides QS and/or notifications with just one swipe. However I can't seem to reproduce this 100% of the time.
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Nice find. Quick pull down was a special feature on many ROMs on my Nexus 5. What I found when playing:
You can do it slowly in two full swipes:
Pull down notification. Pull down QS tiles.
Or quickly as you've discovered:
"Throw" down notification with a quick downward tap and quickly lift finger, land on the QS bar and down slide the tiles.
If that is easy to understand, maybe you can make it work more reliably. It is more like two short slides for me than two taps..
Longer sentence but actually very quick...settings!
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Update: I find two taps does work but it does seem a bit more prone to not working
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nednednerb said:
Nice find. Quick pull down was a special feature on many ROMs on my Nexus 5. What I found when playing:
You can do it slowly in two full swipes:
Pull down notification. Pull down QS tiles.
Or quickly as you've discovered:
"Throw" down notification with a quick downward tap and quickly lift finger, land on the QS bar and down slide the tiles.
If that is easy to understand, maybe you can make it work more reliably. It is more like two short slides for me than two taps..
Longer sentence but actually very quick...settings!
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Update: I find two taps does work but it does seem a bit more prone to not working
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You know, how you described it is exactly how I do it...just 2 quick little swipe-taps on the status bar! and I'll be honest, I'm really glad this is a thing now. I didn't enjoy the long swipes, twice for QS. Plus the 2 finger stuff is awkward and unnatural, I usually use my thumbs instead of fingers
The reason I went with "double-tap + swipe-down" was mainly due to a few popular apps using gestures and that's how they word it. So yeah, 2 short rapid fire tap-swipes on the status bar will produce the same outcome as "double-tap + swipe-down". I might edit OP and add this... credit where it's due, right? Thanks for this!
cptkian said:
You know, how you described it is exactly how I do it...just 2 quick little swipe-taps on the status bar! and I'll be honest, I'm really glad this is a thing now. I didn't enjoy the long swipes, twice for QS. Plus the 2 finger stuff is awkward and unnatural, I usually use my thumbs instead of fingers
The reason I went with "double-tap + swipe-down" was mainly due to a few popular apps using gestures and that's how they word it. So yeah, 2 short rapid fire tap-swipes on the status bar will produce the same outcome as "double-tap + swipe-down". I might edit OP and add this... credit where it's due, right? Thanks for this!
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Yah, "2 short swipes"
Hah, sounds like a comedy sketch
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I have used the 2 swipe method on the finger sensor to get to the QS menu. I also realized a 2 finger swipe will go directly to the QS menu also.
Quick Tap then swipe is the fastest way to QS. No need for double tap, and the first hit doesn't need to be a swipe.
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Quick Tap then swipe is the fastest way to QS. No need for double tap, and the first hit doesn't need to be a swipe.
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I mentioned this somewhere, but I didn't really mean double-tap and then swipe-down. That's just how I've always seen it worded, so I went with what I thought the masses would get...I'm starting to think that wasn't the best way to go. And you're right, and I've actually been doing what you are saying the entire time, tap, then kind of a tap swipe all on one motion. But I'm only swiping my thumb down less than 1/10" for it to recognize and open QS. There is more on the Pixel XL. It appears to be way more active in all categories over there. It'd be nice to merge the two. I think a lot of info gets missed between the two threads that would benefit each other.
ElementalX already has a dual Pixel/ XL installer.
If ROM development can do a dual installer as the most usual standard, I would think combining forums is good.
Otherwise, I think separation is the was to go.
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ElementalX already has a dual Pixel/ XL installer.
If ROM development can do a dual installer as the most usual standard, I would think combining forums is good.
Otherwise, I think separation is the was to go.
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It pains me to say this, but I think I disagree. I have read a lot of useful information on the XL forum that I have applied to my phone, information that wasn't even mentioned over here, and vice versa. It appears to be twice as active as this thread. I'm actually surprised how much more the pixel xl sold compared to the pixel. i'm losing focus here.
is there a way to combine forums here like you can subreddits on reddit just by typing in a specific url? two birds, one stone.
Yes, I agree. I browse both forums. Very useful info in each.
However, IF installers for ROMs can't be generalized and newbs would be more distraught, separate threads on separate forums makes more sense. Big disclaimers: "5 inch Pixel ONLY" or "5.5 inch XL version ONLY"
They are the same "brand" and most of the same hardware, but in absolute terms, they are unique devices, not only variants. So XDA standards apply.
I doooo agree it would be convenient for me to read one set of subforums instead of two, but it is okay so far.
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IOS like gesture navigation animation.

Hey y'all
I just got the Google Q beta 3 on my pixel and with the full navigation mode you get the IOS like animations. I say IOS like for lack of a better term as they were the first to offer a polished version of gesture animations (to my knowledge, don't want to debate that).
I know that my oneplus 6t and Huawei Mate 20 pro also had that same animation style.
What I mean is that when you swipe up to go home the app animation goes back into the app icon itself, funny enough one ui has a similar animation for when you close a folder.
I'm surprised that our phones don't have it. It makes the whole gesture thing seem like an after thought. I asked Samsung and they told me to download a different theme...
So here are my questions
1- Is there a name for that animation style?
2-Is there an actual theme that would enable it or maybe a launcher?
I'm just a bit surprised that my $1700 phone would have such an unfinished gesture navigation implementation.
Not debating but informing you that WebOS was gesture navigation based before everyone else.
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Not debating but informing you that WebOS was gesture navigation based before everyone else.
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????? That has absolutely nothing to do with my question hence why I didn't want to debate that fact, but thanks for your input. ?
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XDAs gesture navigation is probably the closest to ios you will find
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XDAs gesture navigation is probably the closest to ios you will find
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I'm fine with Samsung navigation, I actually like it very much. It's really the navigation transition animations and more specifically the apps. The way that they kind of pop back into the actual app icon. As opposed to the just fading out.
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