Having read a few reviews, it looks like we can expect some good battery life and SOT with the 3T compared to the 3.
I was expecting a slight increment on endurance and wasn't quite prepared for the 3T's epic stamina. It lasted 16 hours and seven minutes on Engadget's battery test, which involves looping an HD video with the screen set to 50 percent brightness until the device conks out. That's almost six hours more than the OnePlus 3's runtime, and two hours longer than the Google Pixel XL, which has a 3,450mAh bank.
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https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/21/oneplus-3t-review/#performanceandbatterylife
That is why a 1080p doesn't bother me at all. I'll take that extra performance and battery life at the expense of a worse VR experience.
I always wonder how they make these tests, when i play a video on lowest brightness with no apps installed it doesn't lasts longer than 7 hours lol
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I always wonder how they make these tests, when i play a video on lowest brightness with no apps installed it doesn't lasts longer than 7 hours lol
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Is this better than OnePlus 3?
OP2 owner here, I jumped to a Moto G4 Play for size and battery reasons, its working quite well once I bought a better quality 64GB SD card.
The OP3 wasnt enough of a benefit to me to upgrade, but the battery life of the OP3T looks interesting. Looking for more real world battery tests.
Given the SD821 is so similar to the SD820 and 3400mah is only 13% more than the 3000mah, sure most of this much better battery life is software changes?
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Given the SD821 is so similar to the SD820 and 3400mah is only 13% more than the 3000mah, sure most of this much better battery life is software changes?
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From what I understand, there is a few key different from SD820 to SD821. and not just speed but power/thermal efficiency as well. Many people look at benchmark to see how well the CPU/GPU are under the same condition. But that's not a full story. Sure Benchmark do stress the CPU and GPU, but imagine you are running a game. Even if the game is not as stressful as a benchmark software, but benchmarking only run for a few minutes but you maybe running game for half an hour to an hour. What happened then? For the SD820, many of the power get transfer into heat, while on SD821 because it's more efficient and also in the case of OP3T, it has slightly larger battery capacity, this lead to the phone running cooler and last longer. You can see on Engadget that it can run loop of video six hours longer than OP3 even though it only has 13% more battery capacity. I would also speculate that this means playing game over a period of time, it would be less jumpy compared to OP3 as well.
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From what I understand, there is a few key different from SD820 to SD821. and not just speed but power/thermal efficiency as well. Many people look at benchmark to see how well the CPU/GPU are under the same condition. But that's not a full story. Sure Benchmark do stress the CPU and GPU, but imagine you are running a game. Even if the game is not as stressful as a benchmark software, but benchmarking only run for a few minutes but you maybe running game for half an hour to an hour. What happened then? For the SD820, many of the power get transfer into heat, while on SD821 because it's more efficient and also in the case of OP3T, it has slightly larger battery capacity, this lead to the phone running cooler and last longer. You can see on Engadget that it can run loop of video six hours longer than OP3 even though it only has 13% more battery capacity. I would also speculate that this means playing game over a period of time, it would be less jumpy compared to OP3 as well.
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So are you claiming that as real-world load doesn't stress the hardware to its maximum, if you make the hardware faster it runs slower so more efficient?
The benchmarks coming out seem unbelievably better. Wondering why and also looking for more benchmarks.
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So are you claiming that as real-world load doesn't stress the hardware to its maximum, if you make the hardware faster it runs slower so more efficient?
The benchmarks coming out seem unbelievably better. Wondering why and also looking for more benchmarks.
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Not exactly, Benchmark only tell what the CPU/GPU is capable off at peak, but it's not a real world scenario. What matter to us is what would the phone do in the real world. Even what Engadget did for doing a video marathon test is not a real world scenario, but I wouldn't be surprise if a parent lent their child a phone to watch YouTube/cartoon for half a day on a long commute . Combining all these test result would point us to the right direction as to what would happened in the situation that suit us best.
In my opinion, if you are not stressing your phone all the time, in term of battery life it probably not matter between OP3 and OP3T. Seriously, at the end of the day you would have like half the battery left, most of you can plug it in the car or at home. If all you do is web surfing all day, then battery different will not be much, as most of the power will be consumed largely by screen and wifi/cell. But for some something that do stress the phone quite a bit to a lot, like watching video and playing games for a period of time, then the difference in battery life would be more significant, and that would be due to both the difference in battery and SoC (not just battery alone).
In my first two battery cycles with OP3T (from 100% to 8% (1st run) / 11% (2nd run) I got 6-6,5 hours of SOT. Love it. The only thing that could be better is the speed in which the home button reacts when tapping home button to get out of an application to home screen (before I had iphone 7 from which I upgraded to OP3T (definitely an upgrade ..android in general is just way more enjoyable!!!), I had xiaomi mi5 which had way more responsive capacitive home button in regard of how fast it reacts..here its a little bit slow, but I am probably just too picky).
Mostly these apps throughout the whole day for random period of time:
1. Whatsapp;
2. Chrome;
3. Youtube;
4. Gmail;
5. Spotify (streaming to car audio system through BT for ~1 hour in each cycle)
Throughout those 2 cycles I was constantly on moble data (4G) (never on WIFI), Sync: ON, location - OFF, Bluetooth - on (no wifi). Very impressed with OxygenOS 3.5.1. and OP3T so far.
My last 4 phones -> nexus 5x, galaxy s6, xiaomi mi5, iphone 7..
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In my first two battery cycles with OP3T (from 100% to 8% (1st run) / 11% (2nd run) I got 6-6,5 hours of SOT. Love it. The only thing that could be better is the speed in which the home button reacts when tapping home button to get out of an application to home screen (before I had iphone 7 from which I upgraded to OP3T (definitely an upgrade ..android in general is just way more enjoyable!!!), I had xiaomi mi5 which had way more responsive capacitive home button in regard of how fast it reacts..here its a little bit slow, but I am probably just too picky).
Mostly these apps throughout the whole day for random period of time:
1. Whatsapp;
2. Chrome;
3. Youtube;
4. Gmail;
5. Spotify (streaming to car audio system through BT for ~1 hour in each cycle)
Throughout those 2 cycles I was constantly on moble data (4G) (never on WIFI), Sync: ON, location - OFF, Bluetooth - on (no wifi). Very impressed with OxygenOS 3.5.1. and OP3T so far.
My last 4 phones -> nexus 5x, galaxy s6, xiaomi mi5, iphone 7..
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Do you have anything setup for home button double press shortcut? In general, setting a short cut for home button double press slows down home button response....
ram4ufriends said:
Do you have anything setup for home button double press shortcut? In general, setting a short cut for home button double press slows does home button response....
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Thanks man. You were right. I changed double tap action to none and it's as responsive as it needs be. :good: It actually makes so much sense - in order to enable double tap function on the same button which was a set action on single tap you have include a time gap in order to allow the 2nd tap to occur! Considering that there are still 2 more capacitive buttons which include double tap/long press actions I don't see it as a major flaw.
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Thanks man. You were right. I changed double tap action to none and it's as responsive as it needs be. :good: It actually makes so much sense - in order to enable double tap function on the same button which was a set action on single tap you have include a time gap in order to allow the 2nd tap to occur! Considering that there are still 2 more capacitive buttons which include double tap/long press actions I don't see it as a major flaw.
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Yes, software has to wait to see if it is single tap or double tap..but if you disable it, it always going to perform single tap action without waiting
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Do you have anything setup for home button double press shortcut? In general, setting a short cut for home button double press slows down home button response....
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ram4ufriends said:
Yes, software has to wait to see if it is single tap or double tap..but if you disable it, it always going to perform single tap action without waiting
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Right, that makes sense.
Btw, (1) do you know if its possible to remove vibration when double tapping to wake the device and (2) what app if any do you use to edit led notifications ? Whatsapp and textra allows you to chose the color of led notificaton, but for instance, Gmail app, Default Dialer app does not have the option to change color of led notification.
jemeljsh said:
Right, that makes sense.
Btw, (1) do you know if its possible to remove vibration when double tapping to wake the device and (2) what app if any do you use to edit led notifications ? Whatsapp and textra allows you to chose the color of led notificaton, but for instance, Gmail app, Default Dialer app does not have the option to change color of led notification.
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Light flow is probably going to be the best app to change the color of the led.
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From what I understand, there is a few key different from SD820 to SD821. and not just speed but power/thermal efficiency as well. Many people look at benchmark to see how well the CPU/GPU are under the same condition. But that's not a full story. Sure Benchmark do stress the CPU and GPU, but imagine you are running a game. Even if the game is not as stressful as a benchmark software, but benchmarking only run for a few minutes but you maybe running game for half an hour to an hour. What happened then? For the SD820, many of the power get transfer into heat, while on SD821 because it's more efficient and also in the case of OP3T, it has slightly larger battery capacity, this lead to the phone running cooler and last longer. You can see on Engadget that it can run loop of video six hours longer than OP3 even though it only has 13% more battery capacity. I would also speculate that this means playing game over a period of time, it would be less jumpy compared to OP3 as well.
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How do you know it runs cooler?
According to technobuffalo it gets more warm than the 3
weroliera said:
How do you know it runs cooler?
According to technobuffalo it gets more warm than the 3
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According to XDA article here,
[FONT="]as we’ve run our 3DMark and GFXBench endurance tests under controlled conditions on both devices at the same time and found that, overall, temperature remained nearly identical with a fluctuating difference of about ±0.5°C, and overall throttling was also similar and below 5% on both devices. [/FONT][FONT="]The OnePlus 3T did ultimately sustain a higher score in these tests, as expected, meaning that the extra bump in graphics performance doesn’t vanish the moment you stress the processor. In fact, they typically throttle at about the same point, and even when throttled the OnePlus 3T performs better than the OnePlus 3 at its peak. [/FONT]
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On previous posts is mentioned that setting the home button to launch a shortcut or to open an app make it laggy......is this correct?....
I'm planning to order op3t but this makes me worrying a little bit.....
Setting an action for double tap will make it a little less responsive because after first tap it will have a short time gate in which it will wait for that possible second tap.
cultofluna said:
On previous posts is mentioned that setting the home button to launch a shortcut or to open an app make it laggy......is this correct?....
I'm planning to order op3t but this makes me worrying a little bit.....
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It is with every phone...if you setup some short cut for home button double press, home button response will be little delayed...
jemeljsh said:
In my first two battery cycles with OP3T (from 100% to 8% (1st run) / 11% (2nd run) I got 6-6,5 hours of SOT. Love it. The only thing that could be better is the speed in which the home button reacts when tapping home button to get out of an application to home screen (before I had iphone 7 from which I upgraded to OP3T (definitely an upgrade ..android in general is just way more enjoyable!!!), I had xiaomi mi5 which had way more responsive capacitive home button in regard of how fast it reacts..here its a little bit slow, but I am probably just too picky).
Mostly these apps throughout the whole day for random period of time:
1. Whatsapp;
2. Chrome;
3. Youtube;
4. Gmail;
5. Spotify (streaming to car audio system through BT for ~1 hour in each cycle)
Throughout those 2 cycles I was constantly on moble data (4G) (never on WIFI), Sync: ON, location - OFF, Bluetooth - on (no wifi). Very impressed with OxygenOS 3.5.1. and OP3T so far.
My last 4 phones -> nexus 5x, galaxy s6, xiaomi mi5, iphone 7..
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3rd cycle (from 11-100%) was pretty much the same. 6hours of sot easy maybe even more. Today no car audio (spotify through bt).
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Ive spent the last few days fiddling and testing stuff to increase battery life. Here is what i have learnt...
(Im running R2BA026)
Firstly, personally i do not want to lose any functionality/performance in order to gain battery life. I think that if you are going to spend the money to get a phone with awesome hardware it should be able to run at full whack.
This guide will not be useful to all, but hopefully it will be handy to those in my situation.
This is a guide for what i have found to be the best compromise between battery life and user experience, with the emphasis being on user experience.
My specific goals are:
- I do not want to lose any performance i.e cause any slowdown/choppiness.
- I am only looking for a 24h battery life as i can charge every night.
- I want to be able to use my phone without worrying about battery. Specifically I never want to think "i shouldnt do that it might run down my battery". I should be able to use all the features on my phone without questioning if i can afford to.
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In my experience using a task killer resulted in only minimal gains to battery life but it meant that opening up apps could be a lot slower and apps could be choppy just after opening them.
Additionally the idea of setCPU is a good one however when coming out of sleep or opening an app it takes a little while to get back up to speed. This also causes choppiness. Personally I find lag/choppiness a real pet peeve, it irritates me alot, so I do not use setCPU either. It is true that with careful set up the lag can be minimised but then the battery life gains are also minimal, so I choose to keep full performance and dispense with setCPU. Bear in mind that the hardware platform is already very efficient and well optimised so a software solution will pretty much be a straight trade of performance for battery life.
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With those two common options out of the way, what else can be done to save juice?
Well generally the biggest consumer of energy is the screen. The simplest option is just to turn it down to minimum brightness, but in my opinion that is not a good solution, its too nice a screen to have dimmed all the time. Thankfully the auto-brightness does a pretty good job of keeping the back light at a good level. It can be a bit disconcerting if you enable it when using full brightness as the drop can seem somewhat dramatic but don't let that put you off, give at 1/2 a day or so and you wont even notice.
Other easy but important things you can do are turning the screen timeout to minimum and always turning off the screen (power button) as soon as you are finished. They are tiny changes but really do make a big difference.
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Onto wifi...
I think there may be a bug with the firmware because if I disable wifi I get a HUGE increase in battery life when Im at home. I have good 3g coverage here and a 3GB allowance so I only need to turn on wifi when Im browsing the web or market, seeing as it takes seconds with the widget this option suits me fine.
I suspect that when the phone is connected to wifi it doesn't sleep properly so drains very fast.
Only turning on wifi when i want it made by far the biggest difference to me, and as it doesn't affect my user experience in any appreciable way I am happy to do it.
I think its a good idea to mention app/widget updates and refreshes here, personally i have all my widgets and apps set to refresh only once a day, that suits me fine because I can refresh them all manually very easily if I want to to be absolutely up to date and I'm not a twitter or facebook addict Most of my widgets are news/article based so once a day is perfect.
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GPS, again this is rather obvious, if you don't use it, turn it off. Personally i use latitude so I have it turned on all the time. Android seems very good about only using it when it is needed and the phone seems to get a fix very quickly so in reality it doesn't spend much of the day being active.
Same goes for bluetooth, although I don't use it so it stays off.
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Nothing i have said here is particularly revelatory mostly common sense but I have always had battery issues often with the battery lasting ~12 hours before asking to be charged.
Updating to 026 made a big difference and following these rules means my battery drains on average 2-2.5% an hour under normal use.
Normal use for me:
-Wifi Off
-GPS on (With latitude widget)
-Gtalk always running
-3 news widgets + timescape
-frequent texting
-moderate calls
-frequent fiddling
The phone is very very snappy, everything apart from timescape opens as near to instant as makes no odds, the phone is a pleasure to use. My battery life has comfortably doubled without the use of any apps or any loss of performance.
Mission Accomplished
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Cheers for that. Very interesting .
I definitely agree about the task killer apps, the OS does a perfect job at running itself!
One question, Am i correct in presuming you have 3g always running? Network mode set to GSM/WCDMA preferred? Ive been afraid to do this as i have it in my head that 3g eats up my battery for fun! I'll have to try it out.
Thanks again!
I bought an extended battery for my X10 the sloping sides stop it looking like a brick. The G1 always looked like a brick with an extended battery but the X10 sloping sides do serve a purpose.
helliewm said:
I bought an extended battery for my X10 the sloping sides stop it looking like a brick. The G1 always looked like a brick with an extended battery but the X10 sloping sides do serve a purpose.
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Cheers for that. Very interesting .
I definitely agree about the task killer apps, the OS does a perfect job at running itself!
One question, Am i correct in presuming you have 3g always running? Network mode set to GSM/WCDMA preferred? Ive been afraid to do this as i have it in my head that 3g eats up my battery for fun! I'll have to try it out.
Thanks again!
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Yep, thats correct With the 3g on it seems to stay in 2g when sleeping then switch to 3g when you wake it, you can see the change in the status bar about a second after waking. Pure speculation though ...
Well, let us know how you get on with 3g active all the time
helliewm said:
I bought an extended battery for my X10 the sloping sides stop it looking like a brick. The G1 always looked like a brick with an extended battery but the X10 sloping sides do serve a purpose.
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I love how slim the x10 is, that combined with the fact that the 3rd party backs are ugly and can be poor fitting mean an extended battery isnt really an option for me, whatever suits though ^^
iead1 said:
I prefer this:
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Nice one where i can get one.
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I certainly plan on getting a pair of bluetooth headphones, will be interesting to see how they affect battery life...
TechGuru_x10 said:
Nice one where i can get one.
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It's from Sanyo. It's being released in Japan in October, but, I'm sure it will come out internationally as well.
James thanks u were helpful
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Some additional tips based on my personal experience:
-Using a third-party task launcher helps too. Some may not agree, but it works for me.
-Use a third-party digital clock widget instead of the stock one. Again, YMMV.
-Use a third-party(AGAIN!) MP3 player instead of Mediascape. I'm using Meridian, and notice an increase in battery life when playing MP3s.
I like having some control so I run task killer but there's no auto-kill enabled and if I know the phone is just going to turn it back on in 5min, I don't bother killing those apps. Maybe I should just remove it altogether, but it seems convenient to be able to kill an app at will (I do it with windows sometimes).
mmsbludhound said:
-Use a third-party digital clock widget instead of the stock one. Again, YMMV.
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I think the reason why you find that the stock one drains your battery is due to the "use network provided values" being checked in the date and time settings.
Interesting article. I am running 024 and my battery is life is poor. I managed to get seven hours use yesterday after a full charge. My usage throughout the day wasn't anything too crazy. Where I work I get only a standard signal (no 3G). I seem to get a better battery life.
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I agree battery life is horrible. It makes me really miss my blackberry.
Even when battery life is low, charging it takes FOREVER, not to mention if you plug it in and play with it at the same time, it charges even slower.
My Blackberry Tour charged fully in what seemed like 45 mins from less than 10% batt life. I know they are different phones, but it just really sucks to me.
I'm debating going back to a blackberry now. The X10 and other android phones (and Iphone), are more toys than anything else.
/end rant.
hehe sorry
Thats odd, my phone charges pretty damn fast, just a few days ago i was pleasantly surprised that it charged from completely empty (id forgotten to charge it) to ~80% in less than an hour.
Ballfuzz said:
Even when battery life is low, charging it takes FOREVER, not to mention if you plug it in and play with it at the same time, it charges even slower.
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Hmm, mine charges from <10% to 100% within 1 - 2 hours.
Make sure you are charging by AC, charging by USB does indeed take forever.
mmsbludhound said:
Hmm, mine charges from <10% to 100% within 1 - 2 hours.
Make sure you are charging by AC, charging by USB does indeed take forever.
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Yeah I agree by USB takes forever.
JamesBarnes said:
Additionally the idea of setCPU is a good one however when coming out of sleep or opening an app it takes a little while to get back up to speed. This also causes choppiness. Personally I find lag/choppiness a real pet peeve, it irritates me alot, so I do not use setCPU either. It is true that with careful set up the lag can be minimised but then the battery life gains are also minimal, so I choose to keep full performance and dispense with setCPU. Bear in mind that the hardware platform is already very efficient and well optimised so a software solution will pretty much be a straight trade of performance for battery life.
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Quite interesting for me, I decided to add some statistical experiment about it.
Under my situation and environment. (I won't go in detail, sorry about that)
With SetCPU were 2.32% per hour without any usage.
W/O SetCPU were 3.18% per hour without any usage.
or approximately 7% maximum saving per day time. (for me)
My SetCPU only effected sleep state.
Not a big deal but still significant different, but it could survive for whole day anyhow.
I'm more interested about Killing app. I might try after this as I see many argument about it.
Cebees said:
Quite interesting for me, I decided to add some statistical experiment about it.
Under my situation and environment. (I won't go in detail, sorry about that)
With SetCPU were 2.32% per hour without any usage.
W/O SetCPU were 3.18% per hour without any usage.
or approximately 7% maximum saving per day time. (for me)
My SetCPU only effected sleep state.
Not a big deal but still significant different, but it could survive for whole day anyhow.
I'm more interested about Killing app. I might try after this as I see many argument about it.
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Ohh figures, good stuff! Always better to have some numbers to work with.
Do you not find that for a few seconds after waking up the phone gets choppy?
I would definitely be interested in seeing the stats with a task killer
Do you guys leave internet/gps on or something? I get 3 hours/percent on idle.
JamesBarnes said:
Ohh figures, good stuff! Always better to have some numbers to work with.
Do you not find that for a few seconds after waking up the phone gets choppy?
I would definitely be interested in seeing the stats with a task killer
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Yup, with SetCPU for sleep state, it was 'choppy' for a few sec, mostly effect lock screen and screen switching.
So i'll cut to the chase, Battery has been ok with stock rom, after freezing the **** out of some apps, BUT, with VillainRom the phone is working perfect + battery life is amazing.
What is amazing?
53 Hours and 30 minutes since full charge.
I did charge it in the car for very short periods while using GPS and screen on full brightness.
How was the phone configured?
- Wifi/3G Data on at all times
- Push GMAIL and What'sapp
- Screen Brightness on full and the "Adjust screen power" option ticket off.
- Lookout installed and running in background.
- Bluetooth always on, not always connected though.
- 3 Hours of display usage
- 1.5 Hours of calls
- Some gaming, browsing etc.
Don't believe me?
Here are screenshots!
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Thats really good but i couldn't get anywhere near that, not even without using the phone. I average no more than 10 hours.
Well done mate i wish i could manage it myself.
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Screen Brightness on full and the "Adjust screen power" option ticket off.
- Lookout installed and running in background.
- Bluetooth always on, not always connected though.
- 3 Hours of display usage
- 1.5 Hours of calls
- Some gaming, browsing etc.
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Screen brightness full???no way..in ur dreams boy..
only 3 hours you used ur phone out of 53??well that says it..in sleep all the time..
and the "ups" in ur screenshot show charging..
anyways let it sleep in peace..
I'm addicted to gaming on this thing, unfortunately that chews through the battery
so many "charging" peaks lol
isnt that the guy who posted the same thing 1 day ago ? XD
bilboa1 said:
so many "charging" peaks lol
isnt that the guy who posted the same thing 1 day ago ? XD
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This one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142540
Anyway still don't understand what's good about this battery stats ...
@sumeshd,
You know, I don't get money from Samsung or anyone else for posting this? Why would I lie? Anyway, believe what you what, I really don't care that much.
I'll just say again, brightness is @ FULL.
3 Hours, is not ONLY, that's my usage, and you don't have to like it or not.
@bilboa1,
If I wanted, I can charge the phone almost 24/7 I got a charger my car, at home, at work, and even a portable solar one.
The charging peaks you see are mainly USB file transfers for a few minutes, and the long ones are around 30 minutes while driving with GPS + Screen at full brightness.
So the consumption on those moments is rather high, which means the battery isn't charging all that much.
@Mittaa,
You take a 4.3" Smartphone that does everything, and get 53 hours out of it, it's not enough??
if the little charging peaks were not there i'd still get around 46 hours from the phone, is that not enough???
Anyway the information I posted was to help people who are trying to choose a ROM, chose this one, or other people who are having battery problems have a reference.
eitama dont bother posting let this thread die please .
Two reasons one you will find certain users insist you have poor gps yellow screen bad battery life etc . Not worth bothering with if you are happy with your phone .
Reason two is a bit selfish as posting VR great battery life means we are going to get hundreds of numptys posting in VR rom thread who wont read and cannot follow instructions .
jje
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eitama dont bother posting let this thread die please .
Two reasons one you will find certain users insist you have poor gps yellow screen bad battery life etc . Not worth bothering with if you are happy with your phone .
Reason two is a bit selfish as posting VR great battery life means we are going to get hundreds of numptys posting in VR rom thread who wont read and cannot follow instructions .
jje
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I hear ya buddy, but if iv'e helped even 5 people choose Villain and get good results, then I've done my job
I'm tempted to swap over
Having a superb battery life with VR 1.4...just over 10 hours with more than 6 hours screen on time..in a crappy signal area..this is a 100% increase compared to my desire HD with same pattern of usage..
Brightness in auto/ gps when needed/ bluetooth when needed/ wifi when needed/ auto sync & bckgnd sync enable..
Heavy use includes
Whatsapp
Instant messaging
Ebook reading
Music
Browsing
Gmail push email
And some phone calls texting etc etc..
Seriously im loving this phone
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iznee said:
Having a superb battery life with VR 1.4...just over 10 hours with more than 6 hours screen on time..in a crappy signal area..this is a 100% increase compared to my desire HD with same pattern of usage..
Brightness in auto/ gps when needed/ bluetooth when needed/ wifi when needed/ auto sync & bckgnd sync enable..
Heavy use includes
Whatsapp
Instant messaging
Ebook reading
Music
Browsing
Gmail push email
And some phone calls texting etc etc..
Seriously im loving this phone
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Nice to hear that your happy with your phone ... i'm happy too
I also understand that this is way better than your old desire HD (same for me moving from my old HTC Touch HD)
But I can't understand what this have to do with "whatever Vanilla Rom" ...
Lots of people can get this kind of battery live using stock unmodified, non rooted SGS2!
It could be very usefull if someone made a exact compare between two SGS2 running different ROMs.
First same configuration (screen brightness, auto update, widgets etc) then full charge.
Then 15 min GPS (same route), 15 min browsing WIFI (same websites), 15 min gaming (same game), 15 min talking (same person (sorry bad joke)).
Al together 1 hour of heavy identical usage.
Finally screenshots of battery stats and post here on XDA so we all can clap our hands for the best bettery saving ROM of the week
Well I tried to drain the battery on vr playing games etc to calibrate, and struggled, like noonski did.
I could drain stock rom with ease, but can't do it nearly as easily on vr.
The general consensus from reliable members like nobnut and jje seems to concur with it being better
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I hear ya buddy, but if iv'e helped even 5 people choose Villain and get good results, then I've done my job
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well as I said I have tried all the roms..
I have tried vr4..for many days..it gave me 9+ hrs..
good u r supporting vr but not good that u r filling threads with "anything"
this is my battery with batista70 rom..and I m happiest with it..
PS: note the screen wake time bfor commenting..(its awake most of the time bcoz my heavy txting and use)..
and I am on 3g/h network with data active all the time..
this is the best I could get till now(with my usage)
no hard feelings..
People seem to be getting time between charges that vary wildly, but for me the biggest indication of battery life is obviously 'display on' time, and this seems to be roughly the same for the vast majority. Best I've seen so far is 4 hours, and that was mainly 3G/HSPDA browsing. My most recent however was slightly over 2 hours with VR 1.4, and again that was mainly browsing with data.
So while a screenie showing over 2 days may look impressive, it's how much actual use the user got that's important. The post above that showed over 6 hours was certainly impressive, but how much 3G browsing was done? How many 3D games played? GPS? etc etc
<shamed> - sorry for long post!!!
@ OP - you had a few minutes under 3hrs of charging. That is in excess of a full charge of the battery! And a total screen of a a few hours.. Nothing impressive at all. Saying you had on GPS and screen on full brightness negates the charging is just silly. It is usage, and usage is what we're interested in.
@ mittaa + Zedwings: Completely agree with both. Even display on (IMO the most accurate comparison) is a long way from the full truth for comparison in testing and a very fixed test environment would be needed to test a pattern of usage. I started to think about this like mitaa suggests (and when you do, you realise it is virtually impossible to co-ordinate without resetting back to factory) and there are still variables.
And anyway, it's kind of irrelevant at that point. You wouldn't consider doing it unless you're battery life is not meeting your hopes or needs. but your usage is your usage and you'll be happy or not.
Unless you are prepared to compromise on screen time, game playing, widgets, sync settings, live wallpaper etc, then what does it matter? You must find the balance between battery life and customisation that YOU can live with.
Personally, I do this by running my phone in 'full fat' mode. All radios on (this inc. GPS), synch on full, screen set to about 75% (no auto), the widgets I want, high spec live wallpaper (like Galaxies!) that make my £500 phone look like a £500 phone. I settle into my daily usage pattern, charging whenever I need to charge. This is why I bought my phone, not to immediately turn everything off and play the 'longest, littlest' game!
After about two weeks and this has settled into a fairly regular pattern, I start to switch off the things that mean least to me, one by one, day by day until after a numbers of days I find the balance that I can live with.
Personally I start with turning into perm 2G mode as I have wi-fi almost everywhere I go and I live in an area where 2G and 3G is on the cusp. This is extremely draining to batteries (I deal with none phone GSM equipment every day where battery life is key) and I know signal stregnth on the band you're using, constantly cylcing between band (and the variance in antenna power) is the single biggest thing to affect battery life asside from screen. It may not reflect this in stats, but trust me on this... If I lived and worked in a strong signal area, it would drop a few places down the list, extra call quality is nice as well as data.
For those of you living and working in London for example, but mostly out and away from Wi-fi, then consider leaving 3G on, and turning Wi-fi off.
Wi-fi scanning for networks constantly is another big drain.I have noticed this about Android, it allows you background apps to work leaner than the iPhone in power consumption when you have lots of widgets and synch etc. However the iPhone actually uses GSM to perform background tasks when the phone is off (shutting down wi-fi radio which reconnects as soon as you unlock the screen). This means that if you're out and away from a friendly hotspot all day, battery is less affected than an android.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, but hope you all have luck in finding your 'sweet spot' in usage / customisation.
Peter
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People seem to be getting time between charges that vary wildly, but for me the biggest indication of battery life is obviously 'display on' time, and this seems to be roughly the same for the vast majority. Best I've seen so far is 4 hours, and that was mainly 3G/HSPDA browsing. My most recent however was slightly over 2 hours with VR 1.4, and again that was mainly browsing with data.
So while a screenie showing over 2 days may look impressive, it's how much actual use the user got that's important. The post above that showed over 6 hours was certainly impressive, but how much 3G browsing was done? How many 3D games played? GPS? etc etc
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the 3g data was on all the time and I browsed xda or dolphin or market etc..overall aprox 3 hrs of browsing out of 15..and more than 4 hrs screen was on..in auto brightness..(I wont fool any1 saying full brightness )wifi tether was done for 20 mins or so..and 2 hrs of phone calls and msging like crazzzzyyyy..hence 15+hrs battery..and I m v happy..thnx to snakes for batista70 rom
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the 3g data was on all the time and I browsed xda or dolphin or market etc..overall aprox 3 hrs of browsing out of 15..and more than 4 hrs screen was on..in auto brightness..(I wont fool any1 saying full brightness )wifi tether was done for 20 mins or so..and 2 hrs of phone calls and msging like crazzzzyyyy..hence 15+hrs battery..and I m v happy..thnx to snakes for batista70 rom
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Well, that's good. Recently I got a total of 16 hours including 57minutes screen on time.
3h screen time on is nothing, on 2-3 days it's called very light usage.
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I got 56 minutes screen on time from my last full charge. Using VR 1.4.
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I came across some strange CPU behavior on my Exynos Note 4, and I wanted to see if there's a pattern between the SD805 and Exynos versions.
First, I used this app A1 cpu tool to get a real-time measure of cpu clocks. I installed it on both my Note 2 and Note 4.
Now, when I hover my s-pen over the screen (enough for the cursor to show) OR touch the screen, the CPU jumps up to 1300mhz (max power). On my Note 2, it will only get up to 800mhz (half of it's max CPU speed), which leads me to believe that the Note 4 is being too aggressive with CPU scaling, and it's resulting in poor screen on times.
I'd like to hear from both SD805 and Exynos users to see if they exhibit the same behavior. There should be no reason why Sammy is cranking the CPU up full tilt just to keep the s-pen cursor on the screen - or to handle touch events without anything major happening on the screen itself.
Hmm.. good observation and findings chap.. lets see what samsung has to say er... or any devs
Interesting, but if you have poor SoT, this is not the cause.
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Interesting, but if you have poor SoT, this is not the cause.
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It certainly could be if my device use involves a lot of screen touch events (i.e. not watching movies). I type a lot on my phone, and if the CPU is running a full power for each key press, it can certainly cause more drain than it needs to.
EDIT : I will add that bench marking for battery life WITHOUT touching the screen gives me very respectable times. SEE SCREENSHOT
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It certainly could be if my device use involves a lot of screen touch events (i.e. not watching movies). I type a lot on my phone, and if the CPU is running a full power for each key press, it can certainly cause more drain than it needs to.
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There have been more people complaining about poor SoT - the probability that all of them are using the stylus in such an intensive way seems small.
I can testify that I also use the stylus taking notes during meetings, sometimes as long as 2 hours. I never noticed a SoT reduction because of this.
However, it may be useful for you to post your battery usage stats. We could get a better understanding of the root cause. BTW, are you rooted?
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There have been more people complaining about poor SoT - the probability that all of them are using the stylus in such an intensive way seems small.
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Interestingly, simply hovering the s-pen over the screen will ramp up the CPU too... I have a hard time believing that it wouldn't impact battery life.
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I can testify that I also use the stylus taking notes during meetings, sometimes as long as 2 hours. I never noticed a SoT reduction because of this.
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Are you measuring the consumption, like in drain per hour or something like that? I notice drain between 12% - 20% per hour simply depending on very minor differences in usage (i.e web browsing vs. tweeting). I tend to use the stylus a lot.
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However, it may be useful for you to post your battery usage stats. We could get a better understanding of the root cause. BTW, are you rooted?
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I am rooted and get good standby time and expected battery life (i.e with gaming). But regular SOT sucks and I barely pull 4h most days.
I'm hoping that Snapdragon users can confirm whether their device ramps up the CPU on touches too, or if it's just Exynos models (that could explain why people are experiencing such a variation in SOT between the two chips).
I wonder what happens if you still type a lot, but without using the stylus. That would measure if it's the touch events themselves or the stylus hovering.
When I said before that I don't see a SoT reduction while using the stylus it was just a subjective impression. I didn't actually measure it simply because I didn't feel it's worth measuring.
If you're right about this, I really hope Samsung comes out with a solution.
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I wonder what happens if you still type a lot, but without using the stylus. That would measure if it's the touch events themselves or the stylus hovering.
When I said before that I don't see a SoT reduction while using the stylus it was just a subjective impression. I didn't actually measure it simply because I didn't feel it's worth measuring.
If you're right about this, I really hope Samsung comes out with a solution.
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Benchmarking with actual touch events would be very time consuming, but if I could disable CPU throttling for touch events, I could test with general use.
I read somewhere that this could be done, but I haven't seen any cpu control apps that do it on my stock Note 4 kernel. Perhaps it needs to be custom (or changed by Samsung)?
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So, this is what I was talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532422
"input_boost_freq = Boost CPU speed to this frequency on touch screen events. Measured in MHz."
I would LOVE to be able to adjust that on the Note 4! I believe there's either a bug or an over-aggressive use of this function.
I ordered the ZF2 from NewEgg when it released in the US.
I now had it for 4 days and generally feel good about the upgrade from a Nexus 5, but there are some things that really bother me with this phone:
1. Heat. This phone seems to heat up pretty bad when charging and doing something on the phone. When I just got it and was doing updates connected to power it actually gave out an error saying it overheated and needs to shut down.
2. Capacitive buttons are laggy. It takes about a second to register the press of the home button along with back and recent buttons. The Nexus 5 onscreen buttons so much faster.
3. The Zen Keyboard is laggy. Had to download and install the stock google keyboard.
4. Benchmarks are weak. Highest I got was 45k on Antutu. I have seen others getting over 48k. Its a minor gripe as the general performance is really good.
5. The plastic ridge that surrounds the screen seems to be very weak. It already has dings in it. Very sad about this.
6. Camera is not compatible with Hypwrlapse or ManualCamera app. I hope that those apps get updated and start supporting ZF2.
7. I don't know what's going on with this battery. Maybe its the apps that I have. But it feels weak. Woke up today at 8am. Its 5:30 now. I'm at 38% with 2 hours and 30 minutes screen on time.
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I ordered the ZF2 from NewEgg when it released in the US.
I now had it for 4 days and generally feel good about the upgrade from a Nexus 5, but there are some things that really bother me with this phone:
1. Heat. This phone seems to heat up pretty bad when charging and doing something on the phone. When I just got it and was doing updates connected to power it actually gave out an error saying it overheated and needs to shut down.
2. Capacitive buttons are laggy. It takes about a second to register the press of the home button along with back and recent buttons. The Nexus 5 onscreen buttons so much faster.
3. The Zen Keyboard is laggy. Had to download and install the stock google keyboard.
4. Benchmarks are weak. Highest I got was 45k on Antutu. I have seen others getting over 48k. Its a minor gripe as the general performance is really good.
5. The plastic ridge that surrounds the screen seems to be very weak. It already has dings in it. Very sad about this.
6. Camera is not compatible with Hypwrlapse or ManualCamera app. I hope that those apps get updated and start supporting ZF2.
7. I don't know what's going on with this battery. Maybe its the apps that I have. But it feels weak. Woke up today at 8am. Its 5:30 now. I'm at 38% with 2 hours and 30 minutes screen on time.
If anyone else has any thoughts about the phone, please chime in.
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1. Mine barely gets warm, and I have yet to see it get as warm as my G2 yet. It gets warm during charge but every device heats up during that process. Temps jump between 3x-4x℃.
2. I'm not having this issue, so not sure what the cause is.
3. The keyboard is smooth like the LG keyboard, and seems just as responsive as my N9 was.
4. I have the 2GB, so 42K seems to be the ceiling in antutu.
5. I've had mine for roughly a week and there aren't any signs of use on it, such as dings.
7. With my 2GB variant I reach ~2.5-3hrs for SOT at roughly 65-50%. I charge the battery to 85/80% and end up with 4-5hrs for SOT consistently. For me Android OS is really hurting battery performance.
"I'd Totally Hug You, If That Was Something I Did"
Something is seriously wrong with the battery of Zenfone 2, 550 ml. It automatically comes down to around 30% in 8-10 hours, even without any active use at all!
i was one who got early units of 550 ml...mines is performing very well......i dont have any issues too what so ever based on your reports above...standby time for 7 hours only reduce to 4 % batterry consumption for me....return your unit if its got warranty so you can sleep better
The battery and 5.0 are a problem. I've had wifi turned off for the past 3 days and the battery app is still reporting that wif is using 20-25% of the battery. The saving grace is standby which is outstanding. Left it off charge all night and it lost 8% in 11 hours. Once I start to use the phone the battery dies very quickly.
Do the rom upgrade
coolmaster121 said:
I ordered the ZF2 from NewEgg when it released in the US.
I now had it for 4 days and generally feel good about the upgrade from a Nexus 5, but there are some things that really bother me with this phone:
1. Heat. This phone seems to heat up pretty bad when charging and doing something on the phone. When I just got it and was doing updates connected to power it actually gave out an error saying it overheated and needs to shut down.
2. Capacitive buttons are laggy. It takes about a second to register the press of the home button along with back and recent buttons. The Nexus 5 onscreen buttons so much faster.
3. The Zen Keyboard is laggy. Had to download and install the stock google keyboard.
4. Benchmarks are weak. Highest I got was 45k on Antutu. I have seen others getting over 48k. Its a minor gripe as the general performance is really good.
5. The plastic ridge that surrounds the screen seems to be very weak. It already has dings in it. Very sad about this.
6. Camera is not compatible with Hypwrlapse or ManualCamera app. I hope that those apps get updated and start supporting ZF2.
7. I don't know what's going on with this battery. Maybe its the apps that I have. But it feels weak. Woke up today at 8am. Its 5:30 now. I'm at 38% with 2 hours and 30 minutes screen on time.
If anyone else has any thoughts about the phone, please chime in.
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I have the ZF2 which I bought at initial launch from ASUS France. I can tell that I don't have all the issues you are reporting.
1. The phone does heat when charging or making lengthy calls but it doesn't bother me since while charging it's normal and I don't make as many long calls but this has not happened since the last FW update.
2. The buttons are working alright. I haven't noticed any lags. If anything they are more sensitive for me. Takes a screenshot every now and then if I hold my recent app key for a fraction of a second.
3. I always used Google KB on all my android devices so again can't tell but initially I was using the ASUS KB and didn't face any major issues.
4. I haven't done any benchmarks so can't report on that yet.
5. No dings whatsoever. I am also using a case so I barely touch the device.
6. The device has to be supported by devs. I know that the beta Microsoft Hyperlapse does not support it right now but it should do once they add support for it.
7. Well battery has been a concern for most on this forum but with the last FW I am getting 5 hours of SOT with 4G enabled all day. That's not bad at all compared to 2.5 or ~3 hours when I first started using the phone so it has been optimized and if ASUS is serious about this device (I hope they are) then it should only get better.
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Do the rom upgrade
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I'm on the latest firmware.?
iancjc said:
I'm on the latest firmware.?
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i am on last firmware and do not have any issue
coolmaster121 said:
I ordered the ZF2 from NewEgg when it released in the US.
2. Capacitive buttons are laggy. It takes about a second to register the press of the home button along with back and recent buttons. The Nexus 5 onscreen buttons so much faster.
If anyone else has any thoughts about the phone, please chime in.
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Had the same issue with the capacitive buttons, did a factory reset and cleared the cache and they are now pretty much instantaneous when you press them.
iancjc said:
The battery and 5.0 are a problem. I've had wifi turned off for the past 3 days and the battery app is still reporting that wif is using 20-25% of the battery. The saving grace is standby which is outstanding. Left it off charge all night and it lost 8% in 11 hours. Once I start to use the phone the battery dies very quickly.
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turn off the allow wifi scanning when off option .. its probably google play location services killing your battery
Thanks never thought of that. Will let you know how it goes tomorrow.
iancjc said:
The battery and 5.0 are a problem. I've had wifi turned off for the past 3 days and the battery app is still reporting that wif is using 20-25% of the battery. The saving grace is standby which is outstanding. Left it off charge all night and it lost 8% in 11 hours. Once I start to use the phone the battery dies very quickly.
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Go to Wi-Fi Advanced Settings and turn off "scanning always available". That will fix the Wi-Fi consistently on even when turned 'off'.
There's at least a few threads similar to this one already going in this device section. Like this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/zenfone-2-worth-buy-t3113954
Don't need more the same. It just clutters the section and spreads the talk on the subject out between threads. Join the discussion in the one above, or another. :good:
Thanks! Thread closed.
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Im sorry if I do something wrong, I'm new at this. I have had my mxp for a while now and I never got great battery life but recently it has been terrible, when I unplug it I lose 5% in a couple minutes without even using it! I updated to Android 7.0 to see if that would help at all sadly it hasn't. I also turned wifi and Bluetooth scanning off and location is on battery saver. I haven't gotten 2 hours of sot in forever even with lite use, I swear I'm always plugged in. I included screenshots of my battery usage from an average day, is there anything I can do to fix/help it?
Thank you for your time
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If you have poor standby time, and you have root you can try better battery stats. It should help you nail down if your phone isn't getting into deep sleep, and what is keeping it awake. Without root you can still get a feel for how much the device is awake by looking at the details you get when you touch the trend in Settings -> Battery.
You could try booting into safe mode and seeing if your battery life improves. That will disable everything but system apps. Do it by long pressing Power Off after holding the power button to bring up the power menu. It won't tell you what app is the problem, but it will let you know if you have a rogue app you installed causing battery drain.
Sorry but the images are broken!
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If you have poor standby time, and you have root you can try better battery stats. It should help you nail down if your phone isn't getting into deep sleep, and what is keeping it awake. Without root you can still get a feel for how much the device is awake by looking at the details you get when you touch the trend in Settings -> Battery.
You could try booting into safe mode and seeing if your battery life improves. That will disable everything but system apps. Do it by long pressing Power Off after holding the power button to bring up the power menu. It won't tell you what app is the problem, but it will let you know if you have a rogue app you installed causing battery drain.
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My phone was at 48% and I restarted it and it turned back on with 5% battery any idea how that can happen? I rebooted it again to see if it was a mistake but came up as 4% I wish I could include the screenshot but I'm too new I guess.
Your battery is failing. Theres nothing other than a battery replacement.
Dylanburns said:
My phone was at 48% and I restarted it and it turned back on with 5% battery any idea how that can happen? I rebooted it again to see if it was a mistake but came up as 4% I wish I could include the screenshot but I'm too new I guess.
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My phone started doing this almost 4 month ago, when i updated to nougat. Normaly for me the problem is with the battery meter but not the battery. That means that the phone still have 46% and if you use it you will see the battery get stuck at 4%. Just don't restart your phone. Also after charging your phone power it off and on, if you see a jump in battery just keep charging and repeat the process until there is no change! There is a big chance that also your battery is almost dead but if you not add screenshots of your use there is no much more we can do for you!
I posted it in an other topic with simillar topic , it might be useful :
I had this weird problem with my battery too! MXPE on stock nougat , as soon as I charged my phone to 100% and plug out it used to drop below 80 in 2 minutes ! and then when the percentage hit ~20% It used to turn off showing that white screen you mentioned, however when I plugged the phone in it would start charging at ~15% ! so I tried recalibrating my battery and it is surprisingly effective !
here is the method:
1) drain your phone battery until it shuts down.
2)power it on again and you will see that white battery low picture. plug the charger for 3 or more seconds and out, it will boot up again but as soon as the Rom boots up the phone will die again . do it multiple times.
3)charge the phone while it is off until 100%. turn it on and drain the battery as fast as possible (max brightness, volume, streaming videos on cellular data and running benchmarks will do ) till the phone dies again.
4) repeat (2)
5) charge the phone up to 100% while it is off ! and there you go your battery is recalibrated and good to go!
Obviously, this will shorten the batteries lifespan but since I believe you have it for a long time It won't be an important matter!
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My phone started doing this almost 4 month ago, when i updated to nougat. Normaly for me the problem is with the battery meter but not the battery. That means that the phone still have 46% and if you use it you will see the battery get stuck at 4%. Just don't restart your phone. Also after charging your phone power it off and on, if you see a jump in battery just keep charging and repeat the process until there is no change! There is a big chance that also your battery is almost dead but if you not add screenshots of your use there is no much more we can do for you!
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Can you see these images?
Yes, it seems that your battery es dead. You can try one last thing if you want. Try to use the phone in safe mode and check how much Screen on time you got. To enter safe mode press the power button until the power off prompt appear. Then maintan the turn off pressed and the device will reboot to safe mode.
Better battery stats will work fine with non rooted phones you just have to run some commands in adb.
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Yes, it seems that your battery es dead. You can try one last thing if you want. Try to use the phone in safe mode and check how much Screen on time you got. To enter safe mode press the power button until the power off prompt appear. Then maintan the turn off pressed and the device will reboot to safe mode.
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I tried safe mode and battery still drains super fast. What is Motorola's policy on replacing batteries or is there not one?
Dylanburns said:
I tried safe mode and battery still drains super fast. What is Motorola's policy on replacing batteries or is there not one?
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If the phone is under warranty they must replace your battery. If the phone isn't then you have to ask and see what happens and how much they will charge you.
Also it is not dificult to do it yourself. You will need a really good T4 screw driver, a heatgun, doble sided tape or a sticker to put the back agin. Finally a good battery replacement. You can search in the section for battery replacement and search youtube for tutorials. Good Luck with that!
Battery is now consistently dieing around 30 percent now, I think it's time for a new phone sadly.
Nearly a month now that battery dying at around 25-30% and hardly see the battery saver mode anymore. Also SOT hardly gets more then 1.5 hours so i think my battery life time is gone too.
Update: Strange behaviour today. After nearly a full charge got a auto power off some minutes after and when opened again it has gone directly at 3%
Will give it a try with a normal charger just to make sure the problem isnt with the turbo one!
Any suggestions for a replacement for my MXP? I'm looking at the $300 price range and headphone jack is a must!
Onward is the only way forward.
Dylanburns said:
Any suggestions for a replacement for my MXP? I'm looking at the $300 price range and headphone jack is a must!
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Moto X Pure Edition... 64GB edition . HTCs from that time period are said to be good all-around as well, but run even more expensive than the Pure Edition already does (and it seems to be holding its value somewhat better than expected). Personally, if my Pure Edition doesn't pull through, then I might just find another one, but the Nexus 6 has been a decent temporary replacement (aside from that screen).
Dylanburns said:
Any suggestions for a replacement for my MXP? I'm looking at the $300 price range and headphone jack is a must!
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Moto G5 Plus or G5S Plus... Or Honor 7x
To be honest, these are the only phones in the $200-$300 price range I would look at right now... Either will increase battery life 2-4 times, include SD card support, have a traditional headphone jack, and at least as much horsepower. Most other things like camera is a wash, the main drawback of any of these is they do not have NFC and sound quality can be a bit lacking, but few phones under $300 do with similar features.
A budget alternative (under $200) is the ZTE Axon 7 Mini at $169.99 from B&H Photo, it is an extremely under-rated device and although it is pushing just over a year old, it's features are hard to deny for the price, including NFC and truly amazing sound quality from both headphones and the stereo speakers. When this phone released it was $300.
TBH though, if I had to buy a device today and I had $200~$250 available... It would be the Honor 7x. Even pushing $350 to near $400, I would still go this route but once you hit $400 the choices I would make change a bit.
acejavelin said:
Moto G5 Plus or G5S Plus... Or Honor 7x
To be honest, these are the only phones in the $200-$300 price range I would look at right now... Either will increase battery life 2-4 times, include SD card support, have a traditional headphone jack, and at least as much horsepower. Most other things like camera is a wash, the main drawback of any of these is they do not have NFC and sound quality can be a bit lacking, but few phones under $300 do with similar features.
A budget alternative (under $200) is the ZTE Axon 7 Mini at $169.99 from B&H Photo, it is an extremely under-rated device and although it is pushing just over a year old, it's features are hard to deny for the price, including NFC and truly amazing sound quality from both headphones and the stereo speakers. When this phone released it was $300.
TBH though, if I had to buy a device today and I had $200~$250 available... It would be the Honor 7x. Even pushing $350 to near $400, I would still go this route but once you hit $400 the choices I would make change a bit.
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I have been looking at the Honor 7x and seems like a good phone, do you think the LG V20 is worth the extra 120$ over the 7x?
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I have been looking at the Honor 7x and seems like a good phone, do you think the LG V20 is worth the extra 120$ over the 7x?
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Honestly... I haven't liked LG devices since the G2 when I had a bad experience with it, but many people do like them... My issue here would be your paying ~$320 for a phone that is 15 months old, there isn't much argument about it's capabilities, most people like it. I would hop over to the XDA group for that device and read up some of the threads over the last view months and see what kind of issues people have been having, just silently skim for a bit and you will get a better feel for the device. On the good side it has a removable/replaceable battery, that would be a huge plus for this device. Your call on this one.
Personally, I just don't see the cost/benefit of most phones over $300 anymore... You can get a reasonable device for $200-$300 and in general to get much more you need to double or triple that amount now days but it isn't 2-3 times better.