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EDIT: Well its here. So what do you all think. It comes with at&t bands so we should have access to a lot of important aosp info.
OLD: So u know nothing is confirmed as of yet, and I know that it seems the thing is spring t-mo bands, but wouldn't this device being available be a major win for us as well? I'm figuring most of the docentation would be identical to ours, so we'd have full access to the phones resources, and all of us could just merge proprietary info from our respective carriers into ROMs and the like. Am I off on this or would this be great news, even for those of us without the major funds to buy the "google" version.
Just trying to learn and going for a discussion . Any insight would be associated.
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Not a dev so I can't say for sure but I would think that there would be some benefit for AOSP based ROMs, at least for models that share the same chipset as the "Google Edition" though if there is no new source code released it would mean you'd need to rip binaries from the stock image of the new device to benefit and many devs don't want to go there.
If it turns out that Google (not Samsung) is doing the development work for the device, that it's more like a non-gimped nexus, it could be HUGE but that's not the case for most unskinned ROMs.
If this does happen...I think it would be more like the international version...
Although, either way this would hopefully give us code/drivers for new sensors such as the ir and others...allowing us to possibly bring support for those sensors to aosp...maybe, I'm no dev my self but that what I believe
Either way....I'm very skeptical about this piece of news and think its gonna turn out false...why would Samsung release a Google edition? And if they wanted to release an aosp version why would they do so through Google event? Knowing Samsung they would have their own event
IDK the whole thing seemed to pop up out of no where...and the pieces aren't really fitting in
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If this does happen...I think it would be more like the international version...
Although, either way this would hopefully give us code/drivers for new sensors such as the ir and others...allowing us to possibly bring support for those sensors to aosp...maybe, I'm no dev my self but that what I believe
Either way....I'm very skeptical about this piece of news and think its gonna turn out false...why would Samsung release a Google edition? And if they wanted to release an aosp version why would they do so through Google event? Knowing Samsung they would have their own event
IDK the whole thing seemed to pop up out of no where...and the pieces aren't really fitting in
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Well, its here!! I really hope our bootloader unlock gives us access to some of the great features the google edition will provide!! Im mostly curious about the IR Blaster. Id love to be able to keep my remote control without all the samsung bloat.
Anyone else excited about this?
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Well, its here!! I really hope our bootloader unlock gives us access to some of the great features the google edition will provide!! Im mostly curious about the IR Blaster. Id love to be able to keep my remote control without all the samsung bloat.
Anyone else excited about this?
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Yes I am, assuming that the Google model uses Snapdragon chipset and not the Exynos it means that we could flash the Google Edition ROM on our phones and that potentially there will be a lot better support for the hardware for AOSP based custom ROMs.
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Yes I am, assuming that the Google model uses Snapdragon chipset and not the Exynos it means that we could flash the Google Edition ROM on our phones and that potentially there will be a lot better support for the hardware for AOSP based custom ROMs.
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Man this would be really great news. Im going to stick to your school of thought until told otherwise
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Noob alert : what does this mean? A phone without all the bloat ? Different hardware features?
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Noob alert : what does this mean? A phone without all the bloat ? Different hardware features?
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Bloatware is OEM and Carrier installed apps that takes up precious memory and you can't delete.. OEM= Samsung
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Bloatware is OEM and Carrier installed apps that takes up precious memory and you can't delete.. OEM= Samsung
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I don't think this phone will come with Bloatware. If that were true, my Nexus 10 would've came pre installed with a bunch of Samsung software.
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I understand the development communities interest in this phone. I love flashing and enjoying, with my beer contributions, the dev's hard work.
I was excited and planned on waiting for more news on this phone before deciding which phone I am soon going to buy.
But, after I/O today and being told 16gb only, I think Google/Samsung failed again. For me, a 16gb Flagship phone is unacceptable. I have a One S and find it hard not to run out of memory and I don't game.
Sad news today for some of us. Hopefully the memory size will change before June 26th. But, I doubt it.
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I don't think this phone will come with Bloatware. If that were true, my Nexus 10 would've came pre installed with a bunch of Samsung software.
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Well it definitely wont have bloat, as a "pure nexus experience" has been confirmed. I think the previous poster say providing clarification and/or enlightening the self-proclaimed "noob" who asked about it earlier.
Man I'm not even concerned about the bootloader u lock anymore.. I'd rather wait til the Google edition drops anyway, we're talking near-immediate and near-flawless cm/aokp/pa support.
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I wonder how much of that 16gb will be usable without the bloat though. The stock TW ROM is immense. AOSP is going to be much lighter, giving you more of your 16 gigs.
This is great news for anybody with an S4. The devs are going to have a field day with an AOSP ROM designed for this phone, and we will all profit.
When Dans glorious unlock is released, and the Google edition is released, it will completely change this device for the better for anyone willing to take the romming plunge.
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My rooted One S with 16gb internal has 9.93 available. That's coming with Sense as opposed to TW.
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Been reading a lot about their differences and still can't get a clue as which one to buy. Its been more than a month since S4 is released and generally speaking, I am looking to buy S4 not specifically to use 4G, but for general use, mostly apps, a few games (not a hardcore mobile gamer) and also interesting mods.
The other day I came across a game for android specially mentioning it will work only in Adreno GPU. This quite surprised and confused me as to if in future, apps and games will be customised based on CPU/GPU?
Provided the issues that have been reported, mainly the overheating and battery drain, is it wise to wait for a month or two so that Samsung release a second production batch of S4 with these issues fixed? Or there won't any hardware fixes for S4 anymore?
So which model has a better future? (leaving the 4G part).
Hope I get a reply as I am sure the highly knowledgeable and vast users of this forum can help ease my confusion.
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Been reading a lot about their differences and still can't get a clue as which one to buy. Its been more than a month since S4 is released and generally speaking, I am looking to buy S4 not specifically to use 4G, but for general use, mostly apps, a few games (not a hardcore mobile gamer) and also interesting mods.
The other day I came across a game for android specially mentioning it will work only in Adreno GPU. This quite surprised and confused me as to if in future, apps and games will be customised based on CPU/GPU?
Provided the issues that have been reported, mainly the overheating and battery drain, is it wise to wait for a month or two so that Samsung release a second production batch of S4 with these issues fixed? Or there won't any hardware fixes for S4 anymore?
So which model has a better future? (leaving the 4G part).
Hope I get a reply as I am sure the highly knowledgeable and vast users of this forum can help ease my confusion.
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there are 2 more versions of the S4 coming soon i think
the google edition and the snapdragon 800, maybe you could wait for those
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there are 2 more versions of the S4 coming soon i think
the google edition and the snapdragon 800, maybe you could wait for those
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Snapdragon 800? Didn't hear of that until now, thanks for the info Now that is really worth a wait, but for how long
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there are 2 more versions of the S4 coming soon i think
the google edition and the snapdragon 800, maybe you could wait for those
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Don't wait for those, the S5 will be out next year!!
Wait for that instead.
Come on this is ridiculous!
The S4 is a great phone, there will always be better phones just around the corner so just go for the S4.
Either version is good. If you need help making up your mind read one of the hundred threads already on xda about this.
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So which model has a better future? (leaving the 4G part).
Hope I get a reply as I am sure the highly knowledgeable and vast users of this forum can help ease my confusion.
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i9505. Two words, developer support. Oh and 4G LOL
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Is there 4g on tmobile?
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Don't wait for those, the S5 will be out next year!!
Wait for that instead.
Come on this is ridiculous!
The S4 is a great phone, there will always be better phones just around the corner so just go for the S4.
Either version is good. If you need help making up your mind read one of the hundred threads already on xda about this.
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Well, I only planning to buy an S4 and only confused due to different models in S4. And if the Snapdragon 800 model is going to be out in say 2 months or less, I guess its worth the wait?
P.S. No time to wait until S5 launches
my att Note 2 is broken. I know that Moto X will be a google phone and it is coming out soon. should I wait to just get the nexus 4?
N4 bro. Moto x seems to have specs downgraded compared to n4 but I think you should wait for the official announcement.
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For now, the only specs "downgraded" seems to be the CPU (quad-core > dual-core).
Anyway, first let's see the presentation on the 1th of august
Since you're comparing with yet unreleased phones, you might as well include the nexus 5 with it's rumoured specs in the comparison..
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Since you're comparing with yet unreleased phones, you might as well include the nexus 5 with it's rumoured specs in the comparison..
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There are no rumored specs for the N5. There are wishful specs. The Moto X has real specs that have been released by people using the phone and is coming out in a few weeks.
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N4 bro. Moto x seems to have specs downgraded compared to n4 but I think you should wait for the official announcement.
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What is downgraded? The CPU tests seem to show some pretty amazing numbers considering what CPU it is using. The Moto X will also have LTE, a better camera, and better battery life. If they sell it for $300-$400, it will be hard to recommend the N4 anymore.
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What is downgraded? The CPU tests seem to show some pretty amazing numbers considering what CPU it is using. The Moto X will also have LTE, a better camera, and better battery life. If they sell it for $300-$400, it will be hard to recommend the N4 anymore.
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I believe the rumor is it's going to be undercutting the Nexus 4 at under $265 even... and even though it's a dualcore it apparently outperforms the N4's quadcore...
So yeah OP, I think the MotoX is probably the better choice. But let's wait for an official announcement before making rash decisions ;P
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There are no rumored specs for the N5. There are wishful specs. The Moto X has real specs that have been released by people using the phone and is coming out in a few weeks.
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What is downgraded? The CPU tests seem to show some pretty amazing numbers considering what CPU it is using. The Moto X will also have LTE, a better camera, and better battery life. If they sell it for $300-$400, it will be hard to recommend the N4 anymore.
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Yeah I guess cores don't matter.
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Yeah I guess cores don't matter.
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Cores matter but per core performance usually matters more...
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Yeah I guess cores don't matter.
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I've read this is a pretty custom CPU that is utilizing cores in a different way. Having more cores doesn't make it faster. Apparently the Moto X has chips that offload some of the processing power (like for voice). So I would expect the experience to be more smooth than the N4.
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until there is an official announcement it's all rumors, be it nexus 5, moto x or whatever. Asking moto X or nexus 4 is a stupid question, you don't know how the phone performs, you don't know the exact hardware (forget the leaks and rumors here), you don't know what features and capabillities it will pack. all you know is those few things seen in that Rogers ad, the always listening google now and camera gesture. So, until the official announcement on August 1st, comparing an older phone (nexus 4 in this case) with rumors, leaks and what not devices is plain silly. Cheers
wait my friend, HTC one mAXX , Galaxy note 3, Galaxy s4 with snapdragon 800, lg optimus g2, sony xperia Z ultra.
patience
Yeah, I would wait just a few weeks to see the official specs on the Moto X before buying any phone, TBH.
Personally, I'm incredibly happy with my Nexus 4 and could care less about any other phone right now... Unless something comes out that is priced so low with insane specs... Then I'd get it as a backup phone and switch between it and my Nexus 4 whenever the mood strikes me but I'm not giving up my Nexus 4 just yet. I love the little thing!
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until there is an official announcement it's all rumors, be it nexus 5, moto x or whatever. Asking moto X or nexus 4 is a stupid question, you don't know how the phone performs, you don't know the exact hardware (forget the leaks and rumors here), you don't know what features and capabillities it will pack. all you know is those few things seen in that Rogers ad, the always listening google now and camera gesture. So, until the official announcement on August 1st, comparing an older phone (nexus 4 in this case) with rumors, leaks and what not devices is plain silly. Cheers
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We already know the Moto X has a better camera and LTE. In my mind, that is all I need to jump ship from the N4 considering it appears to be a mostly stock experience.
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We already know the Moto X has a better camera and LTE. In my mind, that is all I need to jump ship from the N4 considering it appears to be a mostly stock experience.
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But will it have An unlockable bootloader? If it does I may just step away from the nexus line. At least until the next one comes...
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But will it have An unlockable bootloader? If it does I may just step away from the nexus line. At least until the next one comes...
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I think that's a safe bet... but if the rumors that the Moto X will be on Verizon are true I'm sure that version won't have an unlockable bootloader... at least not officially.
Is it going to be GSM? All the Motorola devices are Verizon only.
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Is it going to be GSM? All the Motorola devices are Verizon only.
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that was before google bought them ;P
PhantomGamers said:
that was before google bought them ;P
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So this would be the first gsm Motorola device, right?
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So this would be the first gsm Motorola device, right?
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i do believe they had some global phones such as the droid 2 global which had gsm support... or some gsm support at least.
but it would be the first full blown gsm device i think. im not really sure
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So this would be the first gsm Motorola device, right?
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No, the Motorola Atrix line is GSM and on AT&T
Hi prospective Note 3 owners,
Many Samsung customers and I had bad experience with the Galaxy S3 concern to updates and driver support (exynos one). Since I am a big fan of AOSP, I would be very interested to know how it looks this time or will look like. Moreover, how useful will it be on a device with pen and many android adjustments for it. I really hate touchwiz design, the darkblue and greenish interface. I think, it would be a more coherent feeling, if Samsung would have used holo design.
The question is, if cyanogenmod supports the device, will it get less problems due to the snapdragon 800 and qualcomm driver support? What about the camera and its image stabilizer?
I know it's a speculative question, so please no **** storm
Can't say about official cm / aospa / aokp builds but the fate of exynos is same as of s3/s4 unless.... Sammy follows what it promised to devs...
sent from the state marijuanated muffins are NOT illegal !
Man I really hope development is possible on this thing, moreover the VZW version. I preordered the device so I guess I have 30 days to decide.... C'mon devs, work your magic!!
come on Samsung release workable sources of everything without that people cant work their magic
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With Knox on these phones the freaking bootloader is going to be locked may just wait for
Nexus 5 but want note 3 ..
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With Knox on these phones the freaking bootloader is going to be locked may just wait for
Nexus 5 but want note 3 ..
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The bootloader will get unlocked just like it has every other time...
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The bootloader will get unlocked just like it has every other time...
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The problem is the Knox Warranty status that can't be reset=no warranty in case you will need it
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I think the a time comes in a lifetime when... We the community stop DEPENDING!.........love the device. Root/ unlocking is so..2010 ...if it " comes it comes."
I decided I want this phone that's it.!
But ........................root is nice.
I'm deciding between the LG G2 and the N3 at the moment and I will not buy a phone that cannot properly run AOSP ROMs (like my I9300 S3 which has horrible battery life and flaky camera unless I use a TWiz ROM - and then I get lag, and **** RAM management/multitasking).
I'm presuming that the Snapdragon 800 version of the N3 will get lots of dev support and reliable AOSP ROMs?
This locked bootloader/KNOX business is a bit concerning though, I ain't buying anything with a locked bootloader, full stop.
I really like the look of the G2 and I'm unsure whether N3 is going to be too big for me - but it's hard to ignore that the N3 is a beast, and now there's a phone with 3GB of RAM I don't think I can buy anything less future-proof than that.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/06/galaxy-note-4-android-5-1-1-update-testing-phase.html
It also might be 64bit optimized.. Benchmark spotted
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...-benchmarks-could-be-64-bit-optimized_id70386
Tmobile, are you on it?
twe90kid said:
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/06/galaxy-note-4-android-5-1-1-update-testing-phase.html
It also might be 64bit optimized.. Benchmark spotted
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...-benchmarks-could-be-64-bit-optimized_id70386
Tmobile, are you on it?
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Snapdragon 805 is a 32-bit processor so it won't matter if they optimize it for 64-bit.
Link: http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com/l/424/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-805-MSM8084
This is amazing and I hope it leaks.
Given the last lollipop drop...I thought we all came to an understanding that tmobile will drop the firmware 4 months AFTER everyone elses drop it? This is just going to create a needless anticipation....and if it drop for international, odds of it being ported to tmobile is slim to none. lol...
I'm certainly not holding my breath this time around. My expectation this time is it'll come when it comes.
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Given the last lollipop drop...I thought we all came to an understanding that tmobile will drop the firmware 4 months AFTER everyone elses drop it? This is just going to create a needless anticipation....and if it drop for international, odds of it being ported to tmobile is slim to none. lol...
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+1 BTW the Note 5 will probably launch before we get 5.1 anyway. The way Samsung and TMO are behaving these days I might just look at another phone Manufacturer......
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+1 BTW the Note 5 will probably launch before we get 5.1 anyway. The way Samsung and TMO are behaving these days I might just look at another phone Manufacturer......
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When you find out which, let me know [emoji1] I'm hunting as well...LG out of the question...there is enough drama with the developers and users to set the road for world War 4
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I sure will keep you in the loop.
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When you find out which, let me know [emoji1] I'm hunting as well...LG out of the question...there is enough drama with the developers and users to set the road for world War 4
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Apparently only the international LG G4 has an unlocked bootloader. I was considering this phone, but given the direction Samsung seems to be headed (no expandable storage/ removable battery); not any more.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-supports-the-g4-for-the-eu-open-market-h815/
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+1 BTW the Note 5 will probably launch before we get 5.1 anyway. The way Samsung and TMO are behaving these days I might just look at another phone Manufacturer......
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Same here. I love my Note 4, but thinking of jumping ship at the next nexus release.
I highly doubt they'll remove the micro SD card slot and removable battery. A lot of people in the technology news believe that note will be a pro line for us power users. They're going to keep the S line for the lame end user. Anyway look like the current state of rumors are the note5 is not coming this year and Samsung is going with S6plus variant.
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Note 5 is definitely coming this year, the s6 plus could never replace the note line. It will release a month or two before note 5 launch.
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http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/06/galaxy-note-4-android-5-1-1-update-testing-phase.html
It also might be 64bit optimized.. Benchmark spotted
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...-benchmarks-could-be-64-bit-optimized_id70386
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Snapdragon 805 is a 32-bit processor so it won't matter if they optimize it for 64-bit.
Link: http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com/l/424/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-805-MSM8084
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Yes, the update maybe 64-bit optimized but 90% of Note 4s have Snapdragon 805 which is only 32-bit and won't be 64-bit, ever. The only 64-bit Note 4 in the world has the Exynos 5433, which wasn't enabled until Lollipop was released.
S5 was just updated to 5.1.1 on tmobile
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S5 was just updated to 5.1.1 on tmobile
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Guess it should be any day now for the Note 4.
Yea, I was just about to post that. Here we go again with the same ****. As much I I love my N4 the 5.0.1 update, even on custom roms drains the battery faster then 4.4.4. Skipped again and I'm sure it won't be for a while before it comes to the N4. I'll be keeping this phone for 2 years but when it's time to switch I'll be looking at a different company.
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Yea, I was just about to post that. Here we go again with the same ****. As much I I love my N4 the 5.0.1 update, even on custom roms drains the battery faster then 4.4.4. Skipped again and I'm sure it won't be for a while before it comes to the N4. I'll be keeping this phone for 2 years but when it's time to switch I'll be looking at a different company.
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I and many others disagree with the [bolded] as in above quote. Personally, due to possibly selecting a good lollipop base, following the instructions, selecting a decent kernel, doing research & setting up the kernel to maximize both performance & battery, along with the addition of a nifty little add-on Mod (found here on XDA) - Lspeed, I am very pleased with Lollipop and won't be looking backwards and look forward to further improvements if that is even possible as again, I am more than satisfied with my current setup. :good::good::good:
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Yea, I was just about to post that. Here we go again with the same ****. As much I I love my N4 the 5.0.1 update, even on custom roms drains the battery faster then 4.4.4. Skipped again and I'm sure it won't be for a while before it comes to the N4. I'll be keeping this phone for 2 years but when it's time to switch I'll be looking at a different company.
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I don't know what you did to your phone. I'm on stock rooted deodexed 5.0.1 with a few XPosed modules and my battery life is EXACTLY the same as it was on 4.4.2.
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I and many others disagree with the [bolded] as in above quote. Personally, due to possibly selecting a good lollipop base, following the instructions, selecting a decent kernel, doing research & setting up the kernel to maximize both performance & battery, along with the addition of a nifty little add-on Mod (found here on XDA) - Lspeed, I am very pleased with Lollipop and won't be looking backwards and look forward to further improvements if that is even possible as again, I am more than satisfied with my current setup. :good::good::good:
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I and many others are very happy for you but as 99.7% of Note 4 owners haven't a clue how to modify their phones, I'll have to say 5.0 sucks balls for that vast majority of owner.
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I and many others are very happy for you but as 99.7% of Note 4 owners haven't a clue how to modify their phones, I'll have to say 5.0 sucks balls for that vast majority of owner.
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I won't argue your opinion as I don't have the facts as to what percentage of Note 4 owners don't understand how to modify their phones.
Actually when I post here on XDA, beings it's a "developers" site with most conversation in relevance to those that do learn and like to root, unlock, Rom, mod, ect... their devices, I guess I assume too much that I am representing my experiences and opinion to a relevant audience.
My apologies if my reply was not appropriate or factual enough. :cyclops: