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Hi all,
I do hope I am asking it in the right place (I didn't want to make a new thread at first, but the closest one I found was locked, so...).
I am willing to buy a Xiaomi MI2S phone. I already know it is only be sold in China (that isn't a problem, actually). I am mostly interested in the 32Gb version, it has really awesome specs.
I have been making a lot of research about this phone and, from what I've seen so far, feedback is positive. That is comforting, to me, but on the same page, I am directly addressing towards people who actually own this phone (or at least have tried it), what are its fails ? Is that phone as perfect as it looks ? Are there some serious flaws/inconveniences with it ?
Second, I also know that the device comes with a specific ROm (MIUI, available in both English and Chinese). I am totally fine with that, as I had a previous positive experience with MIUI roms. But I'd also like to know if, actually, it is possible to customize the phone ? I mean bootloader unlock, root ? Are there some custom roms (well I do mean Cyanogen support, or Cyanogen ports) for Xiaomi MI2S ? These aspects remains a bit unclear, and any piece of information would be much appreciated.
Thanks reading.
i'm willing to buy this phone too. When my good old LG O2x wil die (Can happen every minute ) So i also did some research.
In my langauge (Dutch) There is a lot of information about it. there is a topic on tweakers.net with lots of users who own the device. They are all very happy with it. Here you go... Ok, it's dutch.. But with the use of a translator.. I guess you can get some interesting things out of it. If not.. I could translate some pieces of text for you to english. Just PM me. Not the whole forum of course
About the ROM's. For as far as i know.. There are still no roms without MIUI.. But i'm not suprised if there are roms without MIUI. Maybe in china..
That's all i can help you with atm..
Good luck with researching
miui was modify from cm
and no other rom for mi2s now.
Hello,
I know is my first post here, but i own a MI2 (almost same specs as MI2S, last one using krait processor, better camera) since december this year.
So far nothing to complain about:
- with MIUI V5 battery last 2 full days (wi-fi on, push e-mail on, gps on)
- gps accurate about 2-3 meters
- no problem with gsm/3G signal
- display is very sharp, resistant to scratches, maybe some kind of ACG glass (drop it few times on the concrete, last time i forgot it on the top of my car and i go only plastic frame around display deform)
- sometimes it`s shut off by himself (dunno why, maybe i mess around with secondary recovery partition when it was on MIUI V4)
- no laggy at all (over 72 apps instaled)
- overall a good phone, and i like it
- i use it with the native rom and i get via OTA some updates at 2-3 weeks
sorry for my bad english, hope that helps
buy
Hi, on what website can you buy this phone, to make sure it's original an all?
I saw it on aliexpress, but there are so many sellers, I don;t know if it will be ok.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
desdekid said:
Hi, on what website can you buy this phone, to make sure it's original an all?
I saw it on aliexpress, but there are so many sellers, I don;t know if it will be ok.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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According to the people i refered to in my previous post..www.ibuygou.com is the best shop for the Xiaomi Mi2S device, when it comes to shipping. Some people in holland say that it takes only 1 day to ship, others complain that it takes more than 3 weeks. It depends on the amount of devices they have in stock.
The prices are great btw, 300 euro / 400 dollar for the 16gb, 350 euro / 450 dollar for the 32gb variant. And max 20 dollars for import
They also have accesoires like back covers, cases, batteries etc.
How fast is the GPS locking on the Mi2S?
This is really the perfect phone, with the exception it doesnt have LTE (does it?)
I had a mi 2
Its the best smartphone in 4.3" formfactor
Fast, stable
Very good camera
Long lasting akku on (gps wlan,edge)
Out of the box fast and stable no need for custom rom
Beside miui there is a stockandroid rom with english and chinese language
Cons
3g akku drain
Thick and high weight in comparison to s3, htc one
Bad support in fact of defect or something
Sometimes bad reception
Sometimes microphone issues ( mayve only my device)
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for the positive feedback.
Well, Ibuygou seems to be a popular (and good) choice as a way to purchase the phone.
I'll consider that. Thanks for the tip.
Well, I still don't have much information about the second part of the question though. I am looking for information in the actual state-of-art on modding the phone : is there some safe ways for bootloader unlock, phone rooting ? Are there custom roms actually for Xiaomi devices, or at least, devs working on that ?
These aspects still remain a bit unclear to me, and i'd like to be enlighten on this.
Thanks in advance.
PS: Well it seems i missed natoleon's answer on that:
miui was modify from cm
and no other rom for mi2s now.
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Anyway, i'll be glad if anyone can expand on this.
Roland_Y said:
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for the positive feedback.
Well, Ibuygou seems to be a popular (and good) choice as a way to purchase the phone.
I'll consider that. Thanks for the tip.
Well, I still don't have much information about the second part of the question though. I am looking for information in the actual state-of-art on modding the phone : is there some safe ways for bootloader unlock, phone rooting ? Are there custom roms actually for Xiaomi devices, or at least, devs working on that ?
These aspects still remain a bit unclear to me, and i'd like to be enlighten on this.
Thanks in advance.
PS: Well it seems i missed natoleon's answer on that:
Anyway, i'll be glad if anyone can expand on this.
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There is no developers support due to lack of source code for the kernel as they refuse to follow the GPL laws. Also. Ok real development team has any respect for the MIUI crew as it is well known they take code from others and don't give anything back. For the these reasons this device will not see any development or forums here.
Wayne Tech Nexus
You can find a AOSP for Xiaomi Mi2/Mi2S here. It uses the same kernel though.
http://miui.es/index.php/topic,6678.0.html
It's a spanish forum, but the rom is multilanguage. You can use Google Translator to get an idea of it's said.
desdekid said:
Hi, on what website can you buy this phone, to make sure it's original an all?
I saw it on aliexpress, but there are so many sellers, I don;t know if it will be ok.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Hi, I just bought in ALEGRECOMPRA (spanish site) is a very serious page, based on the comments in all forums.
This is my firts purchase on this page, Im waiting (about 3weeks) for mi Mi2s
I Bought my xiaomi mi2s 32gb from this seller
http://skeep.en.alibaba.com/product...MP_2MP_Ram_2GB_Rom_16GB_or_32GB_in_Stock.html
I can assure you she is selling 100% original phone cheapest price with great support. If you want you can contact her.
Xiaomi MI2S root after can't read the file after, what reason is this?
Mi-2S vs Mi-2
Does anyone know if the Mi-2s also has dragontrail glass like the Mi-2 ??
which series to choose ?
Hi guys, i dont want to deviate from the topic, i want to ask one question regarding Xiaomi
should i go for Mi2S or Mi2 ?
i am really confused about it. help me... what is the major difference between 2 of them ?
help me in deciding which one to buy soon...
thanks in advance...
plikmuny said:
Hi guys, i dont want to deviate from the topic, i want to ask one question regarding Xiaomi
should i go for Mi2S or Mi2 ?
i am really confused about it. help me... what is the major difference between 2 of them ?
help me in deciding which one to buy soon...
thanks in advance...
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simple answer, get MI2S 32GB, it's better in every way
I have ordered this Friday Mi2S 16GB because of "crazy discount" on ibuygou: http://www.ibuygou.com/crazy-discount/
I am really looking forward for this phone, I love MIUI
Hi, thanks for your prompt reply....
i heard a rumor that Mi3 is getting launched by august 16th... is that true ? also with full HD & octa core CPU ?
above all it is priced at 320$ !!!
I am very excited & i am kind of lets wait no matter even if the earthquake happens.... what should i do man ???
Hi,
I it's up to you.
The question is, do you want BIG and heavy phone (MI3, 5" screen, fullHD) or relatively small but still veeery fast (Mi2S, 4,3" screen, 720p).
Both phones are so fast that rest of parameters doesn't matter, you don't feel the difference....
I am very happy that MI2S have only 4,3" screen, not 4,5" or bigger because I want "compact" but fast phone with 2GB ram.
So I don't care about MI3.
stillka said:
Hi,
I it's up to you.
The question is, do you want BIG and heavy phone (MI3, 5" screen, fullHD) or relatively small but still veeery fast (Mi2S, 4,3" screen, 720p).
Both phones are so fast that rest of parameters doesn't matter, you don't feel the difference....
I am very happy that MI2S have only 4,3" screen, not 4,5" or bigger because I want "compact" but fast phone with 2GB ram.
So I don't care about MI3.
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There you go, thanks for helping me....
now i will go ahead & book Mi2S 32GB version & i will get it from a person who has been shipping this from china to europe since long time.. many have voted him as one of the best....
so i will be placing an order by tomorrow or day after maximum once the chinese boat festival is over....
will update once i get progress regarding this... can i see ur Mi2S ? & which ROM r u using currently ? what r all the must have apps to be installed & what crap wares to be uninstalled ? it is better we chat through PMs.... what do u say ?
Hello,
I'm searching for a new phone and currently I ordered a OP3 but it takes a month to be delivered so I'm considering cancelling and getting the Axon 7 (Eu version).
The single most important thing is how ZTE supports the Dev community. Is the EU version unlockable right now? I've seen some guys saying it but it doesn't seem to be publically available right now? Can we expect ZTE to support CM devs so that it will run without major bugs? Oneplus also considers to help with camera drivers etc which is a huge plus, can we expect something similar from ZTE or will they just be like all the others? Also what other phone features will probably not be supported (fully) by AOSP roms? Will the quickcharge work? Will the Atmos stuff work?
If there is definitely a CM Rom coming to the Axon 7 and it will be working as Daily driver I will walk in a store tomorrow and buy it but I will definitely not do so if I will have to stay on stock rom, or the CM will suck.
Sorry if all of this sounds like I'm being hard on the device but after seeing how some companys patch their devices to **** (looking at you Samsung lel) I just can't stand phones without good custom rom support anymore
The unlock for the EU version is coming shortly. It has not arrived yet on a public release but will be in about a week! I can confirm this as they sent me an unlock early to test
ZTE is working with CM devs to bring CM to axon 7.
ZTE are always working on camera improvements.
Quickcharge will work, atmos should work.
I've only seen this and it doesn't look like Zte really cares about the custom developement: https://community.zteusa.com/thread/12243
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I've only seen this and it doesn't look like Zte really cares about the custom developement: https://community.zteusa.com/thread/12243
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https://community.zteusa.com/message/53450#comment-53450
jyee is ZTE USA's Vice President of Technology or something like that.
I mean it does sound good but it has been two weeks since then and the Dev (Unjustified Dev) here in xda still speaks about reverse engineering. He even says: "Nope Cyngn Inc is closing down as far as I know. " and as far as I understood ZTE will only provide help to official Cyanogen Ports?
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I mean it does sound good but it has been two weeks since then and the Dev (Unjustified Dev) here in xda still speaks about reverse engineering. He even says: "Nope Cyngn Inc is closing down as far as I know. " and as far as I understood ZTE will only provide help to official Cyanogen Ports?
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They're working on it: https://github.com/Hax-on
xtermmin said:
They're working on it: https://github.com/Hax-on
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Although I don't understand any of this, if it's actually what you say it is then it's definitely a proof of some sort. At least something is being worked on
SgtIcetea said:
I mean it does sound good but it has been two weeks since then and the Dev (Unjustified Dev) here in xda still speaks about reverse engineering. He even says: "Nope Cyngn Inc is closing down as far as I know. " and as far as I understood ZTE will only provide help to official Cyanogen Ports?
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Cyanogen Inc is not CyanogenMod...
Think about Cyanogen Inc like a closed door.
While CyanogenMod is an open Window.
But both are benefitting from each other.
Here is a quick google search:
http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogenmod-cyanogen-os-differences-702198/
Also that Cyanogen Inc is closing down is just a rumor mill. What they actually did was to kick out some developers which were under Cyanogen Inc payroll. That of course pissed some devs off and it backfired in rumors.
But like I said ZTE doesn't provide any help to Cyanogenmod devs do they? That would be a major go for the oneplus 3, they even announced to support them with better camera code etc
Today I read that Android 8 goes on a modular structure, and the fact that the system is quietly put from one firmware to several smartphones. Do you think someone will be able to port under our smartphone?
I dont believe this phone is forgoten by its manufacturer Alcatel and I dont see anyone doing something it didnt even had the nougat update
Android 8? Are you crazy bro ??? first 6.1 + 7.0 + 7.1 more more more after 8.0
Alcatel is very bad company, all firmware uptdates impossible.
bad company
I know that now this was my first and my last Alcatel phone I like the phone but Alcatel showed that they don't care about their customers today Samsung announced that his 3 year old S6 phone will get also Android 8 update and so with newer device no upadate's... shame for Alcatel not for us
Oreo added a functionality called Project Treble which makes updating phones easier because it segregates the sections that need to get updated so that Carriers/Manufacturers can update their code quicker. Without that functionality, it is possible to get Oreo, but updates are just as hard to implement as Nougat would be.
In short, no, I don't think that Idol 4S will ever get Oreo. I do think that any future phone should have Oreo (with Project Treble) to potentially avoid this situation in the future.
We can not install any custom roms without opening the bootloader lock! Alcatel is a very dishonest company does not even give us this !! I sent a message to Alcatel over all social media accounts, but they did not even give me one answer. I really like my phone, but it gets so boring like this ...
serif55 said:
We can not install any custom roms without opening the bootloader lock! Alcatel is a very dishonest company does not even give us this !! I sent a message to Alcatel over all social media accounts, but they did not even give me one answer. I really like my phone, but it gets so boring like this ...
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yes truth I like. my phone also Iv write them. evvery day for the same thing and no answer
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ms-along-with-a-suite-of-low-end-google-apps/ google anounced this today do you belive anyone can make a rom while I think alcatel wont do it
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting us and for choosing Alcatel products.
Regarding your request, the IDOL 4 device has been scheduled to take the upgrade until the middle of August 2018 please be patient until the new upgrades will be available for download.
The actual release dates haven't been announced yet.
We will remain at your disposal for any further information and we wish you an excellent day!
Kind regards.
Alexandros
Technical Support Alcatel
dejandoggy1 said:
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting us and for choosing Alcatel products.
Regarding your request, the IDOL 4 device has been scheduled to take the upgrade until the middle of August 2018 please be patient until the new upgrades will be available for download.
The actual release dates haven't been announced yet.
We will remain at your disposal for any further information and we wish you an excellent day!
Kind regards.
Alexandros
Technical Support Alcatel
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This was from Alcatel earlier this year:
dejandoggy1 said:
please do not reply below this line--
Dear valued customer,
Thank you for getting in touch with us.
We have plan to update idol 4 to android 7.0 in this middle of year,but we can't confirm the date for your country.Please keep your eye on following website for the latest update information: was wruten in the mail I got from alcatel customer care.
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Sometimes i just can't believe alcatel's flagship phone(yes i'm aware of the idol 5s) won't receive any major update... No android 7,no android 8, no nothing. Alcatel(Tcl) has become a joke, they only care about releasing as much crappy low budget devices they possibly can, while software support for said devices is non existent. Its a shame really, because every once in a while they can release a good smartphone(idol 4s) that is completely forgotten software wise. No more alcatel for me...
Do not buy Alcatel phones they Will not update the OS, i know for Shure i have bought a lot of their
Phones, none was ever upgraded, even no security patches.
You're a power user. Can the Honor V10 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Honor V10. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I like the mobile myself but I have no idea if this company releases kernel sources or allows unlocked bootloaders easily.
Unfairand said:
Looking at the past experience with devices like Honor 8 still stuck on nougat I don't want to encourage Honor brand owing to its poor developer friendly nature and broken promises
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dude, how many phones did get oreo ? even the recently launched op5t (next to pixel in software updates ) has nougat pre installed . wait for 2018, you will surely get. and believe me, Oreo already has battery drain bug and that's why 8.1 launched recently .
consider famous brands like s8 and note 8 , they are still using nougat.
Of all oreo devices out there now is in beta phase only.
so.. do you want slow update STABLE os or do u want fast update BUGGY os ? believe me, i have used honor 6 and oneplus 3 and i certainly felt like you before switching to oneplus 3 but the weekly or frequent updates made a headache for me. well that's may be just me. but it's also a fact. neither am against a company nor am favouring anyone but i just stated my point
I don't know if everybody here thinks wrong, or I am wrong . Honor v10 comes with Oreo out of the box.
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I don't know if everybody here thinks wrong, or I am wrong . Honor v10 comes with Oreo out of the box.
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lmao yes it does
ben cherian said:
dude, how many phones did get oreo ? even the recently launched op5t (next to pixel in software updates ) has nougat pre installed . wait for 2018, you will surely get. and believe me, Oreo already has battery drain bug and that's why 8.1 launched recently .
consider famous brands like s8 and note 8 , they are still using nougat.
Of all oreo devices out there now is in beta phase only.
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dude, what about Nokias, HTC U11, U11+, some Honors already, Xperia XZ1, Compact, Xiaomi, and many others, not mentioning all with Android One program? And "consider famous brands like s8 and note 8 , they are still using nougat..." Well, thats just Samsung, never been so fast with updates, nor it's a famous brand, the s8 or note 8 (but you've meant models, not brand, right?).
Honor v10 comes with oreo and treble support, so you can't even compare that to pre oreo phones that were born with nougat. In theory the treble support and the fact that Huawei released the kernel sources for this phone straight away, should allow for some decent community development
On top of that, I think Huawei was just giving out 100 free devices to willing developers because they want to strenghth the custom rom community for this phone
I think honor really trying to compete with one plus by helping developers by providing all the hardware details and documentation to develop custom Roms for the Honor View 10 and with the treble support soon we will get many custom Roms. I hope developers will take interest in this device.
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so.. do you want slow update STABLE os or do u want fast update BUGGY os ? believe me, i have used honor 6 and oneplus 3 and i certainly felt like you before switching to oneplus 3 but the weekly or frequent updates made a headache for me. well that's may be just me. but it's also a fact. neither am against a company nor am favouring anyone but i just stated my point
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What stable os are you talking about..
I bought the view 10 recently .. it was all good till i got the recent face unlock update..
The touch lag is pathetic ( couple of other member's here pointed it out too )
Before the update it was fantastic , but now for a person who types fast its very annoying..
adzn said:
What stable os are you talking about..
I bought the view 10 recently .. it was all good till i got the recent face unlock update..
The touch lag is pathetic ( couple of other member's here pointed it out too )
Before the update it was fantastic , but now for a person who types fast its very annoying..
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Me too have bought same view 10 and got updated os. No touch lag problem for me. Did you do format after the update ?
ben cherian said:
Me too have bought same view 10 and got updated os. No touch lag problem for me. Did you do format after the update ?
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Yes , wiped chache and even full reset , still i can notice the lag .
I thought it was just my mobile but found out in this forum couple of other guys too have the same issue ..
Can anyone post their touch latency figure's ?
If anyone could do before and after update it would be highly appreciated
Which community? Since the bootloader is locked this device is crap for me. I will replace my Honor view 10 with an OnePlus . Cu
Dead.. Community development is bad.
Broken recoveries.
Difficult and buggy flash procedures that render different results.
What works on one phone isn'tguaranteed to work on the next of the same make and model.
Really nice hardware.. Just tedious flash procedures.
Many other companies willingly help developers... While honor steals improvements and then locks down their phones.
If you really want a flash friendly phone.. Huawei and honor isn't.
My next phone will be a Samsung Galaxy note 10 international version.
If you're looking for a development-friendly phone, Honor is not the solution for you. We do have a program where we give out bootloader unlock codes to a select number of people every once in a while, but there is no official support for unlocking your bootloader. This results is a very small development community.
If we could get Lineage OS for Redmi 7a and a good working GCAM then this phone for 6400(INR)/90$ is absolute amazing for an average person as daily driver.
As long as you're not a hardcore gamer. This is good enough for You.
Is there any dev working on it?
keenofhiphop said:
Hello,
waiting for my model currently
As to the question about when there will be custom roms - the phone was announced only months ago and we will need to wait until it spreads in usage to someone able to develop and maintain custom roms for it. Or some developer not in possession of the device does it, but these projects - in my experience - often lack quality and support.
However the device is globally available (afaik) and extremely attractive with its low price tag while overall good specs, so it's gotta be only a matter of (imo short) time until the userbase has grown so much that some people will put together something...
And yes, I also like to see some roms on it for data security reasons - surely not the only one .
P.S.: watch this if you want to know why it is so cheap
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Can only repeat.
I strolled through a russian forum a while back, they seemed to have a few things up like TWRP, but no sight of a ROM.
Unfortunately I don't know where the chinese forums are at but may take a look at chinese official mi forum later.
keenofhiphop said:
Can only repeat.
I strolled through a russian forum a while back, they seemed to have a few things up like TWRP, but no sight of a ROM.
Unfortunately I don't know where the chinese forums are at but may take a look at chinese official mi forum later.
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Thank YOU!