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Xiaomi MI-2

http://asia.cnet.com/xiaomi-mi2-quad-core-android-smartphone-announced-62218345.htm
http://miuiandroid.com/community/threads/first-photos-of-the-xiaomi-mi-2.17591/
I think I just found my new phone, upgrading from SGS2. The specs blow away any phone right now.
* Qualcomm 8064 CPU (Quadcore)
* 2GB RAM
* 16GB ROM
* Graphics processing comparable to the XBOX 360 (Adreno 320 graphics chip)
* 2000 mAh 3000 mAh battery upgrades
* 4.3 inches high PPI retina screen, 1280x720 resolution. The touch screen to do (the OGS / TOL), the single glass fit technology, Ultra Narrow design to protect the glass.
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Not sure if it has expandable storage. But by currency conversion it works out: $315/£200!!
Should be released in October. Hope it works in UK

Nice phone! If only we could get it for under $400 shipped in USA. Hopefully works for T-Mobile....

even anand is blown away
Xiaomi Mi-2 - the worlds fastest smartphone with xbox 360 graphics
Impressive specs
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...nnounces-miui-phone-mitwo-with-apq8064-inside
http://www.xiaomi.com/mi2
90fps

I wonder if this will have solid rom AOSP/ROM support... you might imagine so considering it's running MIUI out of the box.
Also, battery life.

Will it have an english MIUI available though?

Great specs, especially love the option for 3000mAh albeit with an extra 2mm thickness. But no mention of an SD card slot?? 16GB inside is fine but not enough for me on the whole.

I want one so bad! Hopefully we can manage to get them here in the US for under $400... It's beautiful.

MicShadow said:
Will it have an english MIUI available though?
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Yes it will.
Just wondering if it will work in the UK

Based on what I've read, don't expect to get your hands on it until the specs are no longer a wow factor.
Apparently this company has some very interesting marketing strategies, the price is apparently more so an initial head turner and far from permanent. Supply is also iffy.
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Only missing feature is NFC, but hard to complain about at that price with those specs. Even if it comes in at $450 or so in the end that's around the Xperia P range so not out of sorts. We'll see if they release the goodies for the devs to tinker with.

Has this gone on sale in China? Maybe one of the Chinese users could clear our queries with regards to this phone. I'm chiefly concerned about the following things:
1. English support (should mostly have)
2. AOSP support (almost certainly might have)
3. Build quality and spares!!
Damn it I live in India and we are China's neighbours. Start selling you phones here guys!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30418051#post30418051

lnfound said:
Based on what I've read, don't expect to get your hands on it until the specs are no longer a wow factor.
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Disagree, for that price it will be a wow factor at that time of release and a few months after release

you can get it here & also post & ask some questions, looks like a reliable dealer
http://www.androidforcheap.com/xiao...creen-wifi-gps-android-40-os-phone-p-464.html
I'm giving this a try :silly:
http://www.androidforcheap.com/note...3-os-wcdma-3g-gps-wifi-smart-phone-p-310.html
or this
http://www.androidforcheap.com/i930...-pixel-camera-micro-sim-card-phone-p-453.html
amazing what they can produce here :cyclops:

don't expect aosp support as they will probably never release the kernel source. the first one was okay... many of my friends have them but.although they get updates every week they still seem to be only about 75 stable.. the new one has me interested from a cheap hardware angle but I like beingable to choose my own Rom

@joshofbass
what do you mean by "they still seem to be only about 75 stable"?
reboots? freeze? I need a dual sim so that i don't have to lug around 3 phones

NFC??
Does anyone know if the MI-2 supports NFC technology?
I have seen many websites which write the specs and other useful information,but none is mentioning whether or not it has a nfc chip.

NFC is not listed in the specs on the official homepage. Neither is microsd support, btw ...

the best phone!

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you can get it here & also post & ask some questions, looks like a reliable dealer
http://www.androidforcheap.com/xiao...creen-wifi-gps-android-40-os-phone-p-464.html
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Already sold out

New Edgeless Mi Max with SD 821

A new Mi Max (apparently to be called MIX) is to be released in November with an edgeless screen and Snapdragon 821. Link here.
It looks gorgeous, I may have to get one, but I'm hoping that the news about the MIUI9 and N update for the Mi Max isn't specifically for this version and not the existing hydrogen/helium versions. I wonder what the battery will be like with the 821 instead of the 650/652 too? I think it looks a little thicker from the photos, so it will be interesting to see if that is down to the edgeless screen and fitting the internals in or whether it sports a bigger battery!
If anyone has any more info then please post it here, I'm interested

here's some info http://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_teases_mi_mix_concept_with_borderless_display-news-21282.php .thats some innovative stuff.virtually its a concept phone which you can buy.if it transalates to commercial success xiaomi will be seen in a new light as oem that is capable of putting out innovative hardware in a sleek shell.few oem's would dare to market such bold ideas.but im loving it,im tired of seeing the same old boring designs and this is some refreshing stuff.if xiaomi keeps this up, im sure it will be elevated to the status of mainstream oems like samsung,sony etc.actually i bought the mi max a few days back and im enjoying it,for the 250$ i paid it looks and PERFORMS like a 400$ product.only thing i feel lacking is kernel sources,if xiaomi releases them the development would take off and we could put the nice hardware to good use

wingryder said:
here's some info http://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_teases_mi_mix_concept_with_borderless_display-news-21282.php .thats some innovative stuff.virtually its a concept phone which you can buy.if it transalates to commercial success xiaomi will be seen in a new light as oem that is capable of putting out innovative hardware in a sleek shell.few oem's would dare to market such bold ideas.but im loving it,im tired of seeing the same old boring designs and this is some refreshing stuff.if xiaomi keeps this up, im sure it will be elevated to the status of mainstream oems like samsung,sony etc.actually i bought the mi max a few days back and im enjoying it,for the 250$ i paid it looks and PERFORMS like a 400$ product.only thing i feel lacking is kernel sources,if xiaomi releases them the development would take off and we could put the nice hardware to good use
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Thanks for that link, it really does look impressive. I'm also very happy with my current Mi Max but this new MIX looks exceptional, I'm loving it as well... I'm tempted to get one if the first reviews to come in seem good. It's going to be hard resisting the temptation to buy it!

heres a hands on video http://bgr.com/2016/10/26/xiaomi-mi-mix-hands-on-video-shows-off-smartphones-crazy-edgeless-future i think performance isnt going to be a problem as its powered by sd821,battery too is also going to be great coz of the 4400mah capacity.only availability is going be a hindarance as initial reports say its going to be limited to china.heres an article discussing the matter http://m.androidcentral.com/xiaomi-mi-note-2-mi-mix-china . but we have resellers for that

It's going to be in a price bracket double that of the Mi Max so I'm pretty happy with this current model.

Yeah... Double price, less cores, less battery, has no ear speaker... I'll pass...

Apprently that's to scale.
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Looks awesome, and I hope it's the future of the way phones go in terms of bigger devices.
That being said it's not really worth the price compared to a Mi Max - the #1 feature is definitely the form factor but the Mi Max seems like it's a better spec'ed device.

My next phone soon

nijel8 said:
Yeah... Double price, less cores, less battery, has no ear speaker... I'll pass...
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that put my fears to rest , coz if u moved on to a newer device, we would have missed a friend to help us with our device, coz frankly without you and ajsmsg78 a bug free ROM would still be a distant dream,as no one other than you is involved in squashing the bugs

This is not MI MAX, this is MI MIX. Other name, other hardware, other design, just 6.4" too...
BTW beautiful but very expensive device. And maximum 10.000 pieces/month, so it will be difficult to buy.

It is expensive. I'm going to hold off I think too, I've had chance to calm myself down... I'm very bad at impulse decisions/purchases haha. It is very beautiful though, I hope it works well and gets the plaudits it needs to push design forward.

BTW, Mi MIX has awesome price for the specs and design.

it's not a fair comparison btw, the max is a mid-range while the mix is a flagship specs. obviously the price difference is huge. but the innovations in the mix are price worthy and some of those technologies we are gonna see in most of next year's flagship phones.
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JulianJenner said:
This is not MI MAX, this is MI MIX. Other name, other hardware, other design, just 6.4" too...
BTW beautiful but very expensive device. And maximum 10.000 pieces/month, so it will be difficult to buy.
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Hey Julian where did you see that statement of 10000pieces/month ??? if this is true and assuming only 1% of china's population can buy the phone that would come to 1,400,000 people in china alone LOL and with the production of only 10,000 pieces a month, its gonna take us few years to get one
Edit: here it is unfortunately this could be very true:
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/10/25/xiaomi-mi-mix-monthly-production-limited-ceramic-body/

ROIDjoy said:
it's not a fair comparison btw, the max is a mid-range while the mix is a flagship specs. obviously the price difference is huge. but the innovations in the mix are price worthy and some of those technologies we are gonna see in most of next year's flagship phones.
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Hey Julian where did you see that statement of 10000pieces/month ??? if this is true and assuming only 1% of china's population can buy the phone that would come to 1,400,000 people in china alone LOL and with the production of only 10,000 pieces a month, its gonna take us few years to get one
Edit: here it is unfortunately this could be very true:
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/10/25/xiaomi-mi-mix-monthly-production-limited-ceramic-body/
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Kewin Wang's (IHS) Weibo post...
www.gizmochina.com/2016/10/25/xiaomi-mi-mix-monthly-production-limited-ceramic-body/
小米Max*全网通版*3GB/64GB*银色 - Resurrection Remix 5.7.4 build 6.10.25 by ajsmsg78

OMG this reminds me of the hard times during OP1 and the invitation system

The Mi Max does not have:
-AMOLED display
-dual speakers on the rear or front
-IP68 rating
-All 4 Cricket wireless / AT&T LTE bands
Wish it had those things.

[OP3T]What we know so far?[rumour mill]

Name confirmed I guess
https://oneplus.net/hr/3t
Not 404 anymore
- Snapdragon 821 - confirmed by OnePlus and Qualcomm
- 6GB RAM - I guess confirmed
- Full HD 5'5 Optic Amoled - to be confirmed (maybe OP bought Galaxy Note 7 display spare parts so we get 5'7 2k display )
- Sony IMX 398, 16mpx f/1.7 aperture - to be confirmed
- 3300 mAh battery - to be confirmed
- 64/128GB UFS 2.0 storage - to be confirmed
- new darker color - to be confirmed
- some waterproofing - highly unlikely
- Android 7.0 at launch - I guess confirmed - as seen on GitHub it seems it is 6.0.1
Anything else?
Good times. As I said in another thread, I prefer this autumn/winter releases when new version of Android is out so I hope they stick to this schedule in 2017.;2018.;...

I have a hard time deciding:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/upgrading-to-op3t-80-t3498103

I believe it will just be a tablet. Why give a phone name 3T...

MobileTechArena said:
I believe it will just be a tablet. Why give a phone name 3T...
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As in 3 Turbo.. tablet IMHO is highly unlikely

I would appreciate it, if it will become DaydreamVR Support.

7 inch tablet
Optic amoled
821 sd
And yes code name is - ice cream( guessed by tweets by carl pei)

I am only curious to see what camera holds. Heard rumor about rear camera with f/1. 7 aperture, that would be interesting to see.

saurabh40629 said:
I am only curious to see what camera holds. Heard rumor about rear camera with f/1. 7 aperture, that would be interesting to see.
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Added to first post, thanks for reminding
If it really is 16mpx, f/1.7 aperture that would be really amazing

Guys, it'll be a tablet. I heard that Carl Pei said they aren't foing to make a PHONE. So it' going to be a tablet i think

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7 inch tablet
Optic amoled
821 sd
And yes code name is - ice cream( guessed by tweets by carl pei)
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That would be the most stupid product. Selling a 5.5" Handy followed by a 7" phablet. looool :laugh:.
Also developing a tablet without looking for rumor at least 6 months in advance would be one of the biggest marketing mistakes you can do.

Accessories are beginning to pop up on Amazon. It's not a tablet.

_MartyMan_ said:
Guys, it'll be a tablet. I heard that Carl Pei said they aren't foing to make a PHONE. So it' going to be a tablet i think
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when and where did he say this?

destz0r said:
when and where did he say this?
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I don't know if it's true or not, OnePlus made a post on Facebook and someone commented that Carl Pei said in a talking that they aren't going to make another phone.

LELBOT said:
7 inch tablet
Optic amoled
821 sd
And yes code name is - ice cream( guessed by tweets by carl pei)
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7 = nougat

Let's hope OP are smart enough to include more APAC friendly BANDS of 4G LTE FDD. Their biggest problem was that and the poor quality screen. Update those, throw in the confirmed 'upgrades' and they'll have a great phone...
With Qualcomm beating them to the punch, I have no idea why they didn't push the announcement ahead of schedule and let the 'hype' build for longer..??
RoOSTA

If it's really a refreshed 1+3 I'm kinda mad, because I bought mine two months ago. I'm happy with it, except no sd card slot.
Tablet would be cool, because nobody would expect that. But I doubt it.
We'll see.

roosta said:
Let's hope OP are smart enough to include more APAC friendly BANDS of 4G LTE FDD. Their biggest problem was that and the poor quality screen. Update those, throw in the confirmed 'upgrades' and they'll have a great phone...
With Qualcomm beating them to the punch, I have no idea why they didn't push the announcement ahead of schedule and let the 'hype' build for longer..??
RoOSTA
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This is exactly what I'm hoping for. 100% buying it if it has a nicer screen and supports more LTE bands.

Sir Backe said:
That would be the most stupid product. Selling a 5.5" Handy followed by a 7" phablet. looool :laugh:.
Also developing a tablet without looking for rumor at least 6 months in advance would be one of the biggest marketing mistakes you can do.
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we will talk about this after 15 nov.
i6rb said:
7 = nougat
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yeh i forgot to mentioned that.

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I hope it comes in an all matte black color like the Iphone 7 has....not glossy black or gun metal black but BLACK I like how the new pixel is called quite black when its no where near black, its gray

Verizon has S8 and S8 plus on display

Went to play with them. I still think the note series is nicer. they both feel too small to me.
The weird thing about them is that its not really fair to call them 5.8 and 6.2 inches (even though mathematically correct). really they should be called WIDE 5.3 and 5.5 inch screens. i mean, if it was stretched to 10 inches yet only once inch tall, it would be an 11 inch screen, but that wouldnt make it a better viewing experience.
They just feel like iterative changes to the s7.
Camera is good, but pixel still better IMHO.
the worst thing, by far, IMHO is the single firing speaker. I have always had notes, but after the last fiasco went through every device on the market and especially loved the mate 9 and iphone 7 plus (sorry to all here). Once you have stereo speakers you cant go back. thats now become a must have for me. I hope they add to the Note 8.
I wanted to get a new device. Now I dont know what to do!!!

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The weird thing about them is that its not really fair to call them 5.8 and 6.2 inches (even though mathematically correct). really they should be called WIDE 5.3 and 5.5 inch screens. i mean, if it was stretched to 10 inches yet only once inch tall, it would be an 11 inch screen, but that wouldnt make it a better viewing experience.
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For the Plus I'm looking at the extra screen real estate as a bonus. I've got a screen the same width as my long dead Note7 but extra screen length which is good for reading and other scrolling type content. In landscape you get extra width. It is 100% beneficial when you have two apps open at the same time which I do frequently. So nothing lost over my 5.7" Note7 and something gained.
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They just feel like iterative changes to the s7.
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People on the Note7 forum made the S7 Edge appear to be a Model T in comparison when deciding on a Note7 alternative. If the Note7 wasn't perceived as iterative to the S7-Series how can the S8 be? At the end of the day whether Samsung or someone else what's left to do to a rectangular glass-fronted slab that's new and novel? As evolutions go the S8's are far more different based on their lack of bezels and their edge displays. Huawei is doing edge screens and LG is doing bezel-less. Soon there will be multiple bezel-less edge screened phones. Then what? I guess that's why Samsung's working on foldable.
Camera is good, but pixel still better IMHO.
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Based on? Both the Exmor and ISOCELL sensors in the S8 are newer versions and it appears Samsung's done some major work on the underlying s/w. We'll see what that brings when more detailed comparisons to other current phones are published.
The worst thing, by far, IMHO is the single firing speaker.
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That's a use case thing. 90% of my speaker use is conference calls and dual speakers and sound enhancements hurt more than they help. My content playback is typically the occasional YouTube video imbedded in a news article or an ad. For serious content I have BT speakers ranging from the pocketable IconX to some pretty high end over the ear BT cans. The value of mobile speakers is very individual and a YMMV.

I thought they had dual/stereo speakers? Using the headset speaker as the 2nd speaker. That has been reported at many sites as a spec. If not, I am disappointed in not having dual speakers especially when it can easily be done with a software tweak.

Few questions about OP5.

1. Camera has 1080p/60fps? (with EIS possible?)
2. Is this device somehow waterproff? I can't believe that high-end smartphone don't have any protection.
3. How to root this thing? It will be my first OxygenOS phone
4. It have SDcard slot? (128GB version)?
5. How can I get something like silicone case? I'm living in the EU/Poland
I should receive it this friday

KamilKiri said:
1. Camera has 1080p/60fps? (with EIS possible?)
2. Is this device somehow waterproff? I can't believe that high-end smartphone don't have any protection.
3. How to root this thing? It will be my first OxygenOS phone
4. It have SDcard slot? (128GB version)?
5. How can I get something like silicone case? I'm living in the EU/Poland
I should receive it this friday
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https://oneplus.net/5/specs

Oh, my bad! I didn't saw that expanded specification.
So only 3 and 5 questions left! About root and silicon case.
Thank you @SysAdmNj
Also! Will OP5 charge on this charging pad that left after my S7?
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KamilKiri said:
Oh, my bad! I didn't saw that expanded specification.
So only 3 and 5 questions left! About root and silicon case.
Thank you @SysAdmNj
Also! Will OP5 charge on this charging pad that left after my S7?
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3. Root should be available shortly, just stay tuned to these forums. Same way we've rooted previous oneplus devices.
5. Right now, you either have to wait for oneplus to get them back in stock or keep searching amazon until silicone cases start showing up.
I'm also looking for a case like that but they arent out yet.
No wireless charging.

I read on some reviews that OP's CEO said that it can resist water splash or even some immersion, they just didn't spend money to certificate that

I wouldnt buy this phone, so overrated and now they cheat in benchmarks,,,
Good points
Sd835
Dual camera
Slim design
LPDDR4X RAM
UFS 2.1
Decent price ($300 less than iPhone )
Bad points
Smaller battery than OP3T
Low resolution display compared to flagships
Huge bezels
No waterproofing
No stereo speakers.
No OIS
No 3D touch
No wireless charging ( also absent in iPhone 7)
No expandable storage (64 GB would be too less in 1-2 years)
They should have priced it at $400 then it would be super hit all over the world.

mortuus82 said:
I wouldnt buy this phone, so overrated and now they cheat in benchmarks,,,
Good points
Sd835
Dual camera
Slim design
LPDDR4X RAM
UFS 2.1
Decent price ($300 less than iPhone )
Bad points
Smaller battery than OP3T
Low resolution display compared to flagships
Huge bezels
No waterproofing
No stereo speakers.
No OIS
No 3D touch
No wireless charging ( also absent in iPhone 7)
No expandable storage (64 GB would be too less in 1-2 years)
They should have priced it at $400 then it would be super hit all over the world.
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You can't really compare to an iPhone... You're better off comparing to another Android phone.
64gb is way plenty for most people (they have a 128gb option) I have had a oneplus one for 3 years with 64gb and have barely breached half that (with many apps/music backups, etc)
Smaller battery (barely) but better battery consumption.
The only real letdown is the screen resolution imo