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How is AT&T Detecting my phone?
In my online account management you can select your phone type. Currently I have "AT&T 8525" selected (which is my phone of course). When I go to select "My Device is not listed" or something else, it will remain selected for a while, then when I log in sometime later, "AT&T 8525" is selected again.
How is AT&T figuring my phone type out? What kind of information about my phone is being automatically sent out? Is there a way to block this, or even spoof it?
Is it possible that at&t is just guessing?
I'm using WM6 w/ HardSPL loaded.
I wouldn't sweat it dude, I've had mt 8525 since June and AT&T still has my phone listed as a V3 Razor but, they have my kids phones listed right. OH, I havn't had a razor for almost 2 years.
stesul411 said:
I wouldn't sweat it dude, I've had mt 8525 since June and AT&T still has my phone listed as a V3 Razor but, they have my kids phones listed right. OH, I havn't had a razor for almost 2 years.
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Same. I've had about 3-4 phones since the Razr, mine still says razr
Yeah, it took AT&T three or four months to update mine when I first got the 8525. Once it even had me listed as using one of those old Nokia bricks for like two weeks, then went back to the 8525! Wierd.
Anyway, I could be wrong, but I believe your IMEI is what tells AT&T what kind of phone your using. It just seems to take AT&T's system a while to play catch up when you switch phones.
...and changing/altering your IMEI is a dangerous topic on this board, as it is an illegal practice in most countries.
Anynody else know of how they detect your phone model?
dzelaya18 said:
Anynody else know of how they detect your phone model?
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they have spies......watching you, all the time.......
the IMEI is right. that's how they do it. and the spies help sometimes too
Yes at&t can tell what IMEI is what phone. For that matter most everyone can find it, if you have the IMEI, on the Net if you look hard enough. If you go into a store and register your V3 IMEI on the account the phone should change in the Online managment page. But with the implimentation of their newest system, D.E.R(Device Eligibility Restrictions), they can tell what IMEI is being used with what phone number, even though it may not reflect on the "Online Managment" Site. More importanly, D.E.R restricts certian packages to be allowed for what IMEI is registered on the account.
For example if you have a V3's IMEI registered on your account, then the Media Net package for 15$ unlimited usage will show up and the PDA Connect for 30$ will not. This works in the oposite manor as well. This makes it harder for us to use the lower priced packages. Eventually if D.E.R catches the fact that you are using a PDA phone with the 15$ package or any of the other "Non-PDA" Packages, It may take some time, but the package WILL fall off and credits will not be given out, or atleast that is what i have come to understand.
Hope that clears it all up. I do work for at&t Mobility, im at the bottom of the totem poll (Agent), but one of my larger business accounts has already run into issues with D.E.R and credits were not given out.
I knew it! ...and my suspicions about the spies have been comfirmed... ^.-
I work for house arrest, i want yo know if there's a way for when a offender's box can't use the phone line if i can hook the boxes phone line to my cell phone to upload all that they done to our provider to make sure they haven't done anything or left the house. is there a cable that i can use or anything?
i have a htc fuze.
mark
Apostlemk said:
I work for house arrest, i want yo know if there's a way for when a offender's box can't use the phone line if i can hook the boxes phone line to my cell phone to upload all that they done to our provider to make sure they haven't done anything or left the house. is there a cable that i can use or anything?
i have a htc fuze.
mark
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you mean to use the phone as a modem? I've never seen a connector for it, but it might be possible.
Apparently my post got caught in the chaos.
I would contact the company that makes the box and see if they can make it communicate with your phone/pda. You should be able to emulate a modem and retrieve the file that has the info that you need. Without reprogramming the box I don't see it possible. First off the modem in the box is going to check for a dial tone which your phone is unable to provide. This can be changed but you have to be able to get into the programming in the box and delete the AT code that checks for a dial tone.
check out http://www.amazon.com/Intellitouch-ITC-BT-Xlink-cell-Bluetooth-Gateway/dp/B000S1W7ES
Havn't tried them personally (there are several products like this out there), but they are supposed to connect to phone via bluetooth, and then has a standard phone jack on it. So you simply plug a normal land line phone into the jack and it allows your cell phone to function as a land line. Not sure how well it would work transfering data but probably as close to a solution that I have seen, and wouldn't require some of the other options people are talking about that would require changes to the box.
hey guys, a buddy of mine just had his note stolen. it is a wifi only device and i need to know if there is a way to locate it... i dont have any information of the device available other than a text+ phone number that the device is using. please shoot me a PM if you have any ideas, i have a few people working on it right now but need all and any ideas or input. please send PMs
thanks in advance
All notes have antitheft application built in it, atleast mine has, you need to register the same if you do you can track the phone from Samsung tracker website, it should be able to give you its location and also should be able to lock it, dont know whether it will happen with a wifi version as there is no imei number you can check
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All notes have antitheft application built in it, atleast mine has, you need to register the same if you do you can track the phone from Samsung tracker website, it should be able to give you its location and also should be able to lock it, dont know whether it will happen with a wifi version as there is no imei number you can check
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thank you... very useful... contacting somebody i know at google right now as well.
But... if you did not activate the utrack function (and if you did, you should know), then it will not work.
Found it.. Thanks for the input guys
Before saying it doesnt work (if you will) mind this:
1. It has to be switched on obviously
2. You need to have a working internet connection, meaning if he removes/switches simcard (you may recieve a notification about simcard change) and turn off WiFi, you're toast
3. Its possible he made a factory reset.. If so you're also toast
Personally Im using rooted N8000 and Avast Anti-theft.
Cheers cobraboy for letting us know, most people just leave threads open ended. How did you find it? Be interesting for others to know....
His saving grace was that it was connected to my buddy's WiFi...there were 4 people at the house when it turned up missing...
I got on his main computer at his house, pulled up a list of all the mac IDs connected to their WiFi, identified all 10 devices in the house individually, phones, computers, etc...
His tab should have come up on that list if it was there - it did not. So I confronted the person who I was pretty sure was the only one that would have taken it and told him I knew he had taken it - he came with our other friend..
Showed them all that it was physically missing and not in range of the home network... Even tho it was previously connected... Then told him I was going to call the cops over there if somebody didn't fess up so this was his chance to come clean (as my friends and I don't ****ing steal from each other... Durr) and he admitted to putting it outside while we were all upstairs, then texting another friend of his to come by the house and snagging it.
Got it back. And somebody might have had a bloody nose when all was said and done. Low lifes.
glad you got a result!
i would have emptied there pockets and took anything of value while i was at the nose breaking ceremony
alls well the ends well good you got the note back now activate the tracker
I have had great experience with the Cerberus anti theft app :good:
cobraboy85 said:
His saving grace was that it was connected to my buddy's WiFi...there were 4 people at the house when it turned up missing...
I got on his main computer at his house, pulled up a list of all the mac IDs connected to their WiFi, identified all 10 devices in the house individually, phones, computers, etc...
His tab should have come up on that list if it was there - it did not. So I confronted the person who I was pretty sure was the only one that would have taken it and told him I knew he had taken it - he came with our other friend..
Showed them all that it was physically missing and not in range of the home network... Even tho it was previously connected... Then told him I was going to call the cops over there if somebody didn't fess up so this was his chance to come clean (as my friends and I don't ****ing steal from each other... Durr) and he admitted to putting it outside while we were all upstairs, then texting another friend of his to come by the house and snagging it.
Got it back. And somebody might have had a bloody nose when all was said and done. Low lifes.
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u should had called the police
Glad you got it back. Pretty smart idea!
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You can also write a Tasker code for this kind of stuff. My TF101 used to take a snapshot of the front and back cameras, turn on WIFI, located by GPS and WIFI, then sync the photos and location data to a dropbox. I didn't do more coding because it was inconvenient and I ended up with shots of me taking a ****.. but, you know, if someone wanted to, he could easily turn that into a profile based on location (ie. maybe it won't take snapshots if you're on a recognized wifi or something).
How do you turn on the anti theft......would be interesting to hear from users of N8000, N8010, and N8013 to see IF the process is different for each.
Also, it would be nice to read of users preferred app......
Riki1kenobi said:
How do you turn on the anti theft......would be interesting to hear from users of N8000, N8010, and N8013 to see IF the process is different for each.
Also, it would be nice to read of users preferred app......
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Same here...what is this app thats supposedly built into our note? I have 8013 wifi version. How do we activate this tracker app?
I have the geek squad app from best buy, it will track lock wipe . make noise and take pic
demandarin said:
Same here...what is this app thats supposedly built into our note? I have 8013 wifi version. How do we activate this tracker app?
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It's called Samsung Dive and it's pretty cool beyond just lost device tracking. You (N8000) owners can use it to forward calls and MMS to another device, ring the device (like if you lost it in the house), and, if it's stolen or lost, remote wipe and lock it so it can't be used.
You sign in to the Dive website with your Samsung account. My account's in the UK so I don't how it works in the U.S. I didn't do anything to get my device(s) to appear in Dive other than use my Samsung account when I first set them up.
http://www.samsungdive.com/DiveMain.do
To get Dive to work you have to enable it on your device. It's under Settings>Security>Remote controls if it's available on your particular Note. This is from my N2 but the 10.1's the same.
Just registered with Samsung Dive. N8013, signed in and it automatically recognized the Note. Pretty slick
Hello everyone. I'm on vacation right now and yesterday I found an LG G Watch in the sea. I'm really surprised it's still working, because the fitness app shows no data for the past week, and it's an IP67 device. But anyway:
I wanted to get the phone number of the owner so I could call him and give him back the device. But there's a problem: I don't have a compatible charging cable to pair it to my phone without resetting (through ADB), the Contacts app doesn't allow me to see phone numbers, just contact names, and if I try to start a call or send an SMS the watch says I can't because of course I'm disconnected from any device.
What can I do?
I don't want to give it to the local police, cause last time I returned a smartphone, and two days later the policeman was using it as if it was his own.
P.S.: I wanted to post this on the dedicated LG G Watch subforum, but since there's not much activity and since this is a completely normal Android Wear (1.5) phone, I thought I could reach more people posting here. Thanks for the help!
up... nobody can help?
So there's no way to find the owner huh?
I'd say that you are the new owner. Unless the prior owner put a special app on the watch, given that it is not an LTE device, there is no way to determine who the owner is, even if you charge it up.
You could ask LG if the owner registered it and if they would return it to them ?
or...
Settings - Personalisation - Accounts
does it show an email address ?
Here in Ireland there's a popular radio (FM) show that people call in with unusual little requests and issues with wide coverage. Usually somebody who knows the other person tells them about it within 5-10 mins. Maybe theres something similar in Italy?
If it's got no data for over a week, keep it. Congrats on the find.
Thanks to anyone for the given advice. I tried hardwiring a cut USB cable and pushing a Contacts APK with no success (app instantly crashed). Sent an eMail to LG some days ago and still no response. Also my holiday ended so I'm back to my far away city.. I feel really sorry, but I can't find any other way. Unfortunately there's no radio like that.
I have seen more people get better results on Reddit. Try r/helpmefind subreddit.
you could try this:
go to settings -> known networks
look for a wifi and create at home a new one with no password and the same name. The watch should connect to it and you are able to send a sms or something else.
hi bro
Evolutios said:
you could try this:
go to settings -> known networks
look for a wifi and create at home a new one with no password and the same name. The watch should connect to it and you are able to send a sms or something else.
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bla bla. good luck for you
Title says it all. Anyone else able to enable Volte? I've been using it for a while now. No root needed.
Edit: Hidden menu tool attached in post #3
How?
First and most crucial thing is accessing the hidden menu aka service mode aka dialer code heaven.
It's done by using the hidden menu tool that's linked in this page:
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/c9tovo
It's extremely easy and stupid fast.
Once you've done that you must enable advanced calling in settings. The beauty of it is that it can be done without having to deal with Verizon at all. It's done by accessing IMS settings.
Still with me? If you give a **** beep twice.
Just a reminder/standard Android warning; use the hidden menus with caution. You know this part if you've ever messed with flashing ROMs and all that. There's potential for you to mess up your phone so, you know..
FACTORY MODE
Enter in calculator
(+ 30012012732+
Diagnostic mode(enter either in calculator or dial pad)
##366633#
VERIZON IOTHIDDENMENU
##433346#
Band select/service mode
*#27663368378#
IMS setting menu
*#467#
IMS Settings
- Hit the more options/three dots on upper right of screen
- Select 'Reset to default'
This should activate 'Advanced Calling' in the settings menu without dealing with Verizon. Keep in mind you might have to restart your phone after you reset the IMS settings to default.
- Go back to IMS settings (*#467#) after Advanced Calling is available(you should see that HD voice and video are enabled)
-Under IMS Setting, tap the first option “IMS Service switch”.
-On the next screen, make sure all the toggles are on. If any toggle is off, turn it on.
-Go back and tap “Self Provisioning”. First two options i.e. Provisioning and EAB should show “Enable”. If they show something else, tap “Toggle Provisioning” to enable them.
-Again go back and tap “IMS information”. Verify that all the settings are enabled on the IMS information screen.
-Restart your device.
>Manually add the IMS APN
1) Create an IMS APN
Settings → Mobile Networks →Access Point Names → Add
Select Settings and Mobile Network
Select Access Point Names, Select Add
2) Input IMS setting
Name: ims
APN: ims
APN type: ims
I have never posted here before but I nearly had to buy a new phone because the information I am about to share was not available anywhere on the entire internet even though I had to use the starting point of the above Gentleman's information. Ok so if your Verizon Galaxy Note 4 (although it may work on other carriers as well) was not previously activated in the actual android OP (within the "advanced calling" Setting) and it happens to be on an MVNO Sim card, then the above strategy will not be enough to activate advanced calling (or WIFI calling) because unfortunately these Note 4's are so old that the OS thinks that it has to connect with a 3G tower to make a handshake with your Verizon account before it can tell your OS to proceed with activating the advanced calling. So since you cannot walk into a verizon store and have an tech guru reprogram it for you without the 3G Tower handshake, what you have to do to get it to work is you have (same with Visual Voicemail by the way) to actually enter into the IOT Hidden menu (via above method and then ##433346#) and then click Data then edit and now you are in the data programming menu and then you just need to hit HDR/1X Selection and then click LTE Only Mode and save. Finally in the IMS Setting (above) you must go into the DM configuration and click the VOLTE_Enabled setting and change the 0 to a 1. Good luck and I will take questions if you need help, and thanks for finding the info above OP!
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I have never posted here before but I nearly had to buy a new phone because the information I am about to share was not available anywhere on the entire internet even though I had to use the starting point of the above Gentleman's information. Ok so if your Verizon Galaxy Note 4 (although it may work on other carriers as well) was not previously activated in the actual android OP (within the "advanced calling" Setting) and it happens to be on an MVNO Sim card, then the above strategy will not be enough to activate advanced calling (or WIFI calling) because unfortunately these Note 4's are so old that the OS thinks that it has to connect with a 3G tower to make a handshake with your Verizon account before it can tell your OS to proceed with activating the advanced calling. So since you cannot walk into a verizon store and have an tech guru reprogram it for you without the 3G Tower handshake, what you have to do to get it to work is you have (same with Visual Voicemail by the way) to actually enter into the IOT Hidden menu (via above method and then ##433346#) and then click Data then edit and now you are in the data programming menu and then you just need to hit HDR/1X Selection and then click LTE Only Mode and save. Finally in the IMS Setting (above) you must go into the DM configuration and click the VOLTE_Enabled setting and change the 0 to a 1. Good luck and I will take questions if you need help, and thanks for finding the info above OP!
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DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is it!!! You are a steely-eyed missile man! I have been trying to reconnect my Note 4 to Verizon since they shut off 3G. I thought maybe my issue was related to not having HD setup prior to losing the 3G connection. As you have pointed out, that is the case. No matter what I did, I could not enable HD through the advanced calling menu. Toggling the bit was the key to the whole thing! I cannot thank you enough. I really like my Note 4. Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones. I understand that someday she will be forced to retire, but not today Verizon.... not today.
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Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones.
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True that. In the same boat. The ONLY things missing from the Note 4 are camera2 api and faster/more consistent GPS lock. Other than that, perfect phone for me. I got VoLTE working on VZW, but their 4G coverage blows in my area, missed/dropped 75% of calls. I have nearly everything working w/ a T-Mobile SIM, except voice calls fall back to 2G/CDMA. I'd LOVE to figure out how to get VoLTE on T-Mobile's towers, but it's still usable, since T-Mobile has great 4G LTE Band 4 coverage here, and decent 2G/GSM. So far, they have not announced end of life for 2G/GSM. I have been a VZW customer since they were Bell Atlantic, like 25 years. Had the grandfathered true unlimited data plan. Their service degradation over the last few years is inexcusable. Driving around last week w/ two identical note 4's, one w/ a T-Mobile SIM, one w/ VZW was an eye opener. Should have done this 10 years ago.
Benovite said:
Just a reminder/standard Android warning; use the hidden menus with caution. You know this part if you've ever messed with flashing ROMs and all that. There's potential for you to mess up your phone so, you know..
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Benovite, thanks for this procedure. Do you know, by any chance,
a) Where these settings are actually stored?
b) Is there a way to back up/restore the settings before messing with them?
Google search has been zero help on this. I don't know if a nandroid(twrp) backup of System/Data would save/restore all the hidden dialer menu settings. Would love to know for sure. Thanks,
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DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is it!!! You are a steely-eyed missile man! I have been trying to reconnect my Note 4 to Verizon since they shut off 3G. I thought maybe my issue was related to not having HD setup prior to losing the 3G connection. As you have pointed out, that is the case. No matter what I did, I could not enable HD through the advanced calling menu. Toggling the bit was the key to the whole thing! I cannot thank you enough. I really like my Note 4. Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones. I understand that someday she will be forced to retire, but not today Verizon.... not today.
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Your very welcome! I was not willing to give up on any of my note 4's either as they have so many features that absolutely no modern phone has such as:
IR blaster, removable battery, option of Qi charging Cover or regular cover, Heart rate, Blood pressure, O2 Level, Can connect to all 4 main GPS systems {GPS/US, GLONASS/Russia, Galileo/EU, BeiDou/China}, it works on almost all GSM & CDMA Networks including the unusual cdma networks in South America which I use every year or two when we visit my wifes family in Colombia and much more. They dont make phones that are swiss army like how this old note is, in fact I have tried other notes (including the last note that samsung made) and I absolutely hated it and took it back!
So because I just dont ever want to give up my note (it does absolutely everything I need in a phone and more) I decided to just keep messing with each value of each setting until I finally found the one that works! It was a little easier for me though because I had my wifes daily note 4 and mine daily note 4 and 2 spares to look at different settings so that when I messed up a setting I could return it to what my wifes note 4 had. The only reason I figured out the value changing thing is because one of my old android 5.1.1. note fours had the advanced calling activated when I retired it and as soon as I stuck my current sim card in it I was able to immediately make VoLte calls, so I knew there had to be a setting somewhere that would toggle it on. If anyone wants to activate Video calling on their note 4's (for free) it is actually done the same way. Simply go in to the IMS settings *#467# (which you can only do once you have unlocked the global hidden menu....see above) and make sure it is toggled on in the service switch setting first under the heading VoLte-Video Then head back into the DM Configuration and change toggle the show all values tab at the top to on and then scroll down until you see "LVC_Enabled" And change the 0 to a 1 and then to unhide the video tab in your dialer you need to keep scrolling down and find the one that says "Options _Enabled" and again change the 0 to a 1 and then scroll down and change the "VCE_Config" from 0 to 1 (it may already be a 1 though, its weird, but make sure it is a 1). Now finally Switch your phone to airplane mode and then back off and go back to the main IMS Screen and scroll down and select ims information and make sure that Video over IP is enabled. If it is not you may need to restart your phone. So what is crazy is that the video calling on this phone never worked on any MVNO's and never even worked when using verizon pre-paid, it only ever worked on this phone when I had verizon Post Paid, so I find it incredible that it can be activated like this. What it makes me wonder is if the Text message Chat feature can get activated the same way (although I havent figure that one out yet)! Anyhow my fellow note 4 lovers, I hope you do enjoy this tid bit of info!
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Benovite, thanks for this procedure. Do you know, by any chance,
a) Where these settings are actually stored?
b) Is there a way to back up/restore the settings before messing with them?
Google search has been zero help on this. I don't know if a nandroid(twrp) backup of System/Data would save/restore all the hidden dialer menu settings. Would love to know for sure. Thanks,
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So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file that you can create through android because I backed up the note 4 phone that had advanced calling activated and then did a factory reset and then used odin to install the latest Stock fw file (the one from 2020 that had the better Modem FW) and as soon as I started it up with the sim card the advanced calling was de-activated and could not be re-activated through the normal channel, but then once I restored the android (or google) backup it was automatically re-enabled after the restore was complete. I suspect it is saved someone in the actually IMS settings app (it is actually a samsung app) which I discovered using activity launcher and apk analyzer. I wonder if you could use activity laucher to figure out if your tmobile version note 4 has this system app in it? If it does have this app, I actually figured out that you can unlock this hidden menu without the verizon program on your PC (you dont even need a PC). All you actually have to do is:
Dial ##366633# on the phone then - Select the enable DM Mode on the phone, and then
After This enter main the main IOTHIDDEN MENU using ##433346# then click
- Data (takes you to Data Programming Screen)
- Edit (Data Programming)
- More (takes you to "Others" Screen)
- Click on Global Hidden Menu Selection & Change to Enabled, and boom done your now have an unlocked IMS Service menu and if you can make it here with your t-mobile phone, then you should be able to copy all the values from someone else's tmobile VoLte working Android phone regardless of what T-Mobile tells you!
Just in case anyone is wondering, I actually tried copying the Carrier Services APK and the IMS Settings APK from my android 6.0.1 phone (my daily driver) to one of my other note 4s that I recently rooted (thank you JKRuse for your ridiculously easy rooting instructions for MM) and installed Lineage 18.1 on (thank you very much Ripee For all your hard work there) to see if I could somehow get these system apps to get VoLte working on lineage (I know it was a ridiculous long shot) and NO JOY
This was a sad thing indeed because that is the only thing about my old notes here is that I cannot use the Samsung Smart things app to see what is in my family hub refrigerator (when I am out at the Grocery store) and I cannot use the sams club Scan and Go app because both of those apps require android 8.0 and above! And if it wasn't for not being able to get SMS over IP and Voice over IP working on lineage, it would be a perfect operating system for the note 4's! The only downside I could find was that I could not get a stable 4k video (which I never use anyway because it takes way too much sd card space) and the Bluetooth is not stable. But other than that it runs sooo sooo good on the note 4! It is 10 times faster than the Stock fw and then we could use modern apps! Man I wish we could all somehow work together to get VoLte on lineage and fix the Bluetooth and then Bang we have our notes for another 6 or 7 years at least (especially now that I discovered Aliexpress has sellers that are still making Note 4 battery's fresh which means they have not degraded in capacity like all the ones on amazon and ebay). Anyhow good luck!
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So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file
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Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
/rantOff
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Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
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Hahaha I laugh because absolutely everything you said there are the things I tell my wife when she asked why we don't 'upgrade' our Asus work Laptops! And then of coarse you are absolutely correct about the phones! It sad because even though everything is continually being dumbed down, it is not in a good / more useful way it is always in a way that causes us the consumers to have to go more often to the mega corps tit to drink! Seriously though Loved the rant, and I appreciate the tip on the Modest Rom, I have not used it but now I will try it out.
mrjoshjohnsmith said:
So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file that you can create through android because I backed up the note 4 phone that had advanced calling activated and then did a factory reset and then used odin to install the latest Stock fw file (the one from 2020 that had the better Modem FW) and as soon as I started it up with the sim card the advanced calling was de-activated and could not be re-activated through the normal channel, but then once I restored the android (or google) backup it was automatically re-enabled after the restore was complete. I suspect it is saved someone in the actually IMS settings app (it is actually a samsung app) which I discovered using activity launcher and apk analyzer. I wonder if you could use activity laucher to figure out if your tmobile version note 4 has this system app in it? If it does have this app, I actually figured out that you can unlock this hidden menu without the verizon program on your PC (you dont even need a PC). All you actually have to do is:
Dial ##366633# on the phone then - Select the enable DM Mode on the phone, and then
After This enter main the main IOTHIDDEN MENU using ##433346# then click
- Data (takes you to Data Programming Screen)
- Edit (Data Programming)
- More (takes you to "Others" Screen)
- Click on Global Hidden Menu Selection & Change to Enabled, and boom done your now have an unlocked IMS Service menu and if you can make it here with your t-mobile phone, then you should be able to copy all the values from someone else's tmobile VoLte working Android phone regardless of what T-Mobile tells you!
Just in case anyone is wondering, I actually tried copying the Carrier Services APK and the IMS Settings APK from my android 6.0.1 phone (my daily driver) to one of my other note 4s that I recently rooted (thank you JKRuse for your ridiculously easy rooting instructions for MM) and installed Lineage 18.1 on (thank you very much Ripee For all your hard work there) to see if I could somehow get these system apps to get VoLte working on lineage (I know it was a ridiculous long shot) and NO JOY
This was a sad thing indeed because that is the only thing about my old notes here is that I cannot use the Samsung Smart things app to see what is in my family hub refrigerator (when I am out at the Grocery store) and I cannot use the sams club Scan and Go app because both of those apps require android 8.0 and above! And if it wasn't for not being able to get SMS over IP and Voice over IP working on lineage, it would be a perfect operating system for the note 4's! The only downside I could find was that I could not get a stable 4k video (which I never use anyway because it takes way too much sd card space) and the Bluetooth is not stable. But other than that it runs sooo sooo good on the note 4! It is 10 times faster than the Stock fw and then we could use modern apps! Man I wish we could all somehow work together to get VoLte on lineage and fix the Bluetooth and then Bang we have our notes for another 6 or 7 years at least (especially now that I discovered Aliexpress has sellers that are still making Note 4 battery's fresh which means they have not degraded in capacity like all the ones on amazon and ebay). Anyhow good luck!
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Link? I noticed Ravpower took down their page selling Note 4 batteries.
ForestCat said:
Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
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I'm still running Kitkat and I hate how the US carriers mess with the Note 4's settings
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Link? I noticed Ravpower took down their page selling Note 4 batteries.
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Dave, the best battery's I have found so far (I have tried about 15-20 different aliexpress brands) are these:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804139675068.html?
Make sure you choose the NFC variety if you want to be able to use your Payment apps and other things (like nearby share). Now keep in mind that these battery's are nowhere near the capacity that they claim. I purchased a high end lithium battery stressor / capacity tester which can stress a battery up to 180watts and I tested each battery from all the different brands I purchased from aliexpress 5 times each (just to make sure I was past the break in stage of each battery) at a Constant Current of .7amps (which I found was the most accurate average that a note 4 will pull if watching videos and or gaming half the time and then just web browsing the other half) and these battery's consistently came out at that amperage with 3200ma - 3400ma capacity. The cutoff voltage was set to 2.8v which is as low as you would want to go during a stress test without damaging the battery. Anyway I say all that to say that they did seem to be the best battery's (better than original actually) even though they lie profusely on their stated capacity. I actually have another brand ordered though that seems to have good feedback so I will let you know how they go (these ones: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832682489559.html?). One final note, I would tell you all is that you will make your phone last longer if you do not have to ever take it apart to replace any components (since that almost always damages the s-pen foil film behind the OLED & motherboard) and the way you do that is you keep multiple spare battery's around and only charge the battery's in a separate charger like this: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832625444390.html?
Which only cost $4.20 a piece so when one finally burns up (they seem to last about a year each when plugged in 24 hours a day) you just plug in a new one and your phones charging port remains untouched! Now, I will admit though that I do not stick to this rule 100% of the time since sometimes I am using my phone as a GPS (which drains the battery hella quick) so I go ahead and plug the phone in to my car charger when I am doing so. Anyhow, I hope that helps