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Unlocking the boot loader in the new Xperia™ smartphones

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/devel...e-boot-loader-in-the-new-xperia™-smartphones/

Oh wow, I don't think anybody expected that these unbranded ROMable devices might just become -very- popular!

As I said a week ago this was in the works
Wam bam thank you mam SE will rock this year if they keep going this direction

I saw the news -- really good move from S-E!
This and their promise to give the X10 an update to 2.3.3 are signs that S-E is really improving and taking their customers serious, and that they want to win in the Android race!
I'm excited that S-E is showing signs that of wanting to work WITH and FOR their customers (you know, the ones who buy their phones, as opposed to operators) and not AGAINST, as many other manufactures...

One thing I'm wondering is, is this only happening with factory unlocked phones, or will it work if we buy a locked phone first, and then din unlock after
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Straightflush said:
One thing I'm wondering is, is this only happening with factory unlocked phones, or will it work if we buy a locked phone first, and then din unlock after
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All phones will have a locked bootloader by default. Unbranded and simlock-free phones will be unlockable through some tool Sony Ericsson will release (probably).
You can check if your device is unlockable by connecting it to fastboot. If fastboot recognizes your phone, you will be able to unlock it when Sony Ericsson releases its tool.

Hmmm... any Rogers customers got any clues?
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Straightflush said:
Hmmm... any Rogers customers got any clues?
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Does Rogers usually simlock their phones and/or put custom apps on Android devices? If yes: you will not have a permanently locked bootloader. Only unbranded handsets without simlock will be unlockable.

Ambroos said:
Does Rogers usually simlock their phones and/or put custom apps on Android devices? If yes: you will not have a permanently locked bootloader. Only unbranded handsets without simlock will be unlockable.
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Yeah, Rogers usually adds a number of their own apps and they change the bootscreen to some crap Rogers one instead of the stock one.

Well, was on the fence about the Arc, but now I am getting it...
Will jump to dual core later this year, I just love the design of this one ^^
Time to go back to SE it seems!

hopefully it will be possible at some point to make the phone think it is the same as the unlocked ones... I will keep checking, because since I'm using a f'in htc magic right now. My phone is great, running cyanogen and everything, but still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too old, I kinda need one, but want something I can have fun with...

Got this from Sony Ericsson:
To enable this, we will later launch a web service where an unlock boot loader key can be retrieved by entering your IMEI. This key will be used in Fastboot where you perform the actual unlock boot loader sequence. A more detailed instruction will be provided later, when this service is available.
Depending on the original configuration of your phone, it will be either be possible or not possible to unlock the boot loader. No phone updates are required to enable this functionality.
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So, if you provide an IMEI of a permanently locked phone, you will not get an unlock code, and even if you would get one, it wouldn't work. Looks like a pretty foolproof way!

I don't like when SE use the word ''later''...it can be 3 or 6 month ''later''

At least we already have 2.3 and the software seems to be relatively stable and snappy. I don't need a custom rom yet.

It's not only for custom roms but also for mods like camera and audio boost

vegetaleb said:
It's not only for custom roms but also for mods like camera and audio boost
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i want bass boost cause the bass isnt that good to be honest

bobbanj said:
i want bass boost cause the bass isnt that good to be honest
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I think that are your headphones, I have good in-ears from Sony, and I really like the sound of my Arc! Clear, warm sound, at least as good as my Walkman.
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use poweramp =)

I have IE6 earphones and they sound awesome with the phone... better then the iPhone 4

stick to topic anyway

I Don't Believe On The Motorola Promise About That Unlockable Bootloader

hi,
guys, I don't want to dishearten you but did you think a minute about the way motorola will unlock your bootloader in the future update??
as they will release an update.zip like in the past, I'm not really sure if they will include the unlockable bootloader inside it and, not sure also if an android update can flash a bootloader. So I am a little anxious for you guys, mine is already unlocked...

Its unlocked for ever
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Andrew149 said:
Its unlocked for ever
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you mean locked!? right? lol

Er, dude you really need to read a little bit more on Development forum D:...
Its already unlocked!
Cheers

tan G said:
hi,
guys, I don't want to dishearten you but did you think a minute about the way motorola will unlock your bootloader in the future update??
as they will release an update.zip like in the past, I'm not really sure if they will include the unlockable bootloader inside it and, not sure also if an android update can flash a bootloader. So I am a little anxious for you guys, mine is already unlocked...
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Moto said they are going to do it. They already dont it on the leaked future builds, not to mention the one Kenn is running which is an ATT GB. Not to mention this is the same way the did it on the Xoom. Theres nothing to worry about, its unlocked 4 ever.

lol - it's already done.

knigitz said:
lol - it's already done.
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His point is he thinks its going to be removed from the final build. He states he is already unlocked himself.

LOL Someone needs to read through the forums. Bootloader is unlocked already.

Agree with Jay ... some one needs to read the OP ^_^ LOL
I, maybe just optimistically, think they will. The backlash, *****ing, low sales, the fact they said they would, and the fact that we have it already all points, IMO, to them releasing it. Motorola exec. - "Well the kids already have it so lets release it and make us look good." If they are on our side, at least give us what we want, they sell more. DROID - ground breaking - unlockable - sold like hot cakes. ATRIX - ground breaking - locked - not so much
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Does it really matter? For those that actually want an unlocked bootloader, they can get it in the dev forum. For the average user who will still get the OTA update, they probably didn't care about the bootloader to begin with.

Yaotl said:
Does it really matter? For those that actually want an unlocked bootloader, they can get it in the dev forum. For the average user who will still get the OTA update, they probably didn't care about the bootloader to begin with.
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yup and average users will not probably bother coming to xda.
@OP
you are 2-3 months late regarding the creation of this topic.

madnav said:
yup and average users will not probably bother coming to xda.
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I'm guess i'm still an 'average user' when it comes to android, but this is where I came to become a superuser (pun intended). I don't think i'm ready to mess with the HK build yet, but I definitely plan to flash a few ROMs when the official unlocked GB update comes through. And if it gets yanked before the final release, hopefully i'll know enough by then to use kenneth's version, or if worst comes to worst, the HK build.

zoso28 said:
I'm guess i'm still an 'average user' when it comes to android, but this is where I came to become a superuser (pun intended). I don't think i'm ready to mess with the HK build yet, but I definitely plan to flash a few ROMs when the official unlocked GB update comes through. And if it gets yanked before the final release, hopefully i'll know enough by then to use kenneth's version, or if worst comes to worst, the HK build.
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It's not like the HKTW build is as unstable as the build TBH gave us. The only things that don't work is the front facing camera, and fingerprint sensor.
I just didn't restore from a backup, and you can fix the WebTop. So my phone is running fine, and it seems even more stable than FroYo (Besides the obvious bugs)

tan G said:
hi,
guys, I don't want to dishearten you but did you think a minute about the way motorola will unlock your bootloader in the future update??
as they will release an update.zip like in the past, I'm not really sure if they will include the unlockable bootloader inside it and, not sure also if an android update can flash a bootloader. So I am a little anxious for you guys, mine is already unlocked...
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It really dose not matter if thay include the unlockable bootloader in every update or not. As long as their is a way for it to be done. Thats all the matters. Really only the N1 could be unlocked without much of any hassle. You just needed to know what commands to run,
Once its unlocked. Its unlocked. Cant go back. And just because you flash back to 1.57 or 1.83 and it no longer says "Unlocked" at the top. It is. All you need to do is flash the pudding and it will put those little words back.

pmcnano said:
Er, dude you really need to read a little bit more on Development forum D:...
Its already unlocked!
Cheers
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this is not the case for other atrix versions than att

JayRolla said:
Moto said they are going to do it. They already dont it on the leaked future builds, not to mention the one Kenn is running which is an ATT GB. Not to mention this is the same way the did it on the Xoom. Theres nothing to worry about, its unlocked 4 ever.
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that build is a build for developer and developer devices, there is no garantee that it will be the same for user-end releases, anyway I really hope for all people that you're right.
the sbf used to unlock our phone now (att) has been packed by someone in the dev team may by eval or 2dc... or both

JayRolla said:
His point is he thinks its going to be removed from the final build. He states he is already unlocked himself.
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thumbs up! that's what I said

I will always have an unlocked bootloader

tan G said:
thumbs up! that's what I said
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tang no matter what update motorola does in the future they wont be able to take away the unlock already created. with that said this post is useless, and a mod should close it, this will give the wrong idea to anyone coming to the forum looking for the unlock. who knows what motorola will bring in the future, fact remains, is unlocked and it aint going back.
"Pandora dosnt go back in the box man - he only comes out!!!!"

Dont feed the troll!!!!!!

[Q] Bootloader unlock in comparison to other manufacturers

has anyone experience in the hassl of unlocking bootloader from the g2 or LG phones in comparison to other devices?
how is LGs policy for giving kernel source and unlocking bootloader?
i am a long time htc user and those things are very important to me. as i think about getting a new phone and switching from htc i want to know in advance and i have not found anything
thx

donky kong 017 said:
has anyone experience in the hassl of unlocking bootloader from the g2 or LG phones in comparison to other devices?
how is LGs policy for giving kernel source and unlocking bootloader?
i am a long time htc user and those things are very important to me. as i think about getting a new phone and switching from htc i want to know in advance and i have not found anything
thx
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A little late to the party on this one, LG released a few of its sources for the G2, we already have custom kernel development that just started brewing here lately.
As far as the bootloader, this device has a work around using Loki and it works fine. As evidence points that we can flash pretty much anything worth flashing including custom kernels.

Walter21026 said:
A little late to the party on this one, LG released a few of its sources for the G2, we already have custom kernel development that just started brewing here lately.
As far as the bootloader, this device has a work around using Loki and it works fine. As evidence points that we can flash pretty much anything worth flashing including custom kernels.
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thx i just wanted to know how the overall situation is. cause htc makes it a little difficult to unlock bootloader via htc dev website and there is no s-off . is there s-off on the g2?
with samsung its another story with odin and there are other problems.
i want to get an overall picture for the different manufacturers

donky kong 017 said:
thx i just wanted to know how the overall situation is. cause htc makes it a little difficult to unlock bootloader via htc dev website and there is no s-off . is there s-off on the g2?
with samsung its another story with odin and there are other problems.
i want to get an overall picture for the different manufacturers
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What I would tell you personally is dont delay, carriers will likely be pushing security patches to keep out hackers and make it very difficult for devs to work around in the near future.
No need to worry about s-off, its never been discussed here which tells me it must not exits on this device. I have seen it on almost all HTC devices though.

Walter21026 said:
What I would tell you personally is dont delay, carriers will likely be pushing security patches to keep out hackers and make it very difficult for devs to work around in the near future.
No need to worry about s-off, its never been discussed here which tells me it must not exits on this device. I have seen it on almost all HTC devices though.
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thx. i guess thats just ridiculous. i want steady updates for a year or so as i switch to a new phone after a year. the last year was just horrible on my htc onex+ with so little development and s-on
the carriers would not bother me as im on a contact free carrier, the problem is development is affected. and this is something i have on every phone i buy.
im vacillating between nexus 5 and g2 now

donky kong 017 said:
thx. i guess thats just ridiculous. i want steady updates for a year or so as i switch to a new phone after a year. the last year was just horrible on my htc onex+ with so little development and s-on
the carriers would not bother me as im on a contact free carrier, the problem is development is affected. and this is something i have on every phone i buy.
im vacillating between nexus 5 and g2 now
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I'd go with The N5. Huge developer support.
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Jposton said:
I'd go with The N5. Huge developer support.
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thx
i just compared the 2 forums N4-G2 and came to the same conclusion. development is even more important than hardware for me now

Jcase and RootNinja could finally be close to cracking Motorola’s bootloaders

Lets Hope!
http://phandroid.com/2015/08/14/motorola-bootloaders-cracked/

Would be nice to feel like I owned my phone instead of Verizon.

This is unexpected I didn't think k case was even considering working on Moto phones again.
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romma1 said:
Lets Hope!
http://phandroid.com/2015/08/14/motorola-bootloaders-cracked/
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Was waiting for someone to say something after I seen this tweet:
https://twitter.com/TheRootNinja/status/632228149334405120

no luck for the ultra/maxx/mini
https://twitter.com/TheRootNinja/status/632339179305742336
but this might convince me to buy a turbo if it will unlock turbo bootloader

pizmak said:
no luck for the ultra/maxx/mini
https://twitter.com/TheRootNinja/status/632339179305742336
but this might convince me to buy a turbo if it will unlock turbo bootloader
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Yes, I easily seen that maxx/turbo/ultra isn't supported, but they did say the word "YET" :::::HIGH HOPES:::::

pizmak said:
no luck for the ultra/maxx/mini
https://twitter.com/TheRootNinja/status/632339179305742336
but this might convince me to buy a turbo if it will unlock turbo bootloader
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My main problem with the turbo is that it can become very hot, i think the design choise with the droid maxx to put in the X8 processor was a very good one, but not so popular because it did not look so great on paper.
The droid turbo had the best processor available at that time, meaning it looked great on paper but somehow it has to heat up also when navigating for example
So strange that the droid maxx can navigate without any stutters and only get slightly warm, while the turbo and many other phones get very hot, and after a couple hours of driving in a warm climate even get overheating warnings.
Lets hope this years droid will be better (not on paper but in reality)

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My main problem with the turbo is that it can become very hot, i think the design choise with the droid maxx to put in the X8 processor was a very good one, but not so popular because it did not look so great on paper.
The droid turbo had the best processor available at that time, meaning it looked great on paper but somehow it has to heat up also when navigating for example
So strange that the droid maxx can navigate without any stutters and only get slightly warm, while the turbo and many other phones get very hot, and after a couple hours of driving in a warm climate even get overheating warnings.
Lets hope this years droid will be better (not on paper but in reality)
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I think it's the qualcom chips they all heat up especially the 810.
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Woot!
Sent from my locked but not stocked XT1080.

Just tried Sunshine. Didn't work. But you can see the progress they're making. Still waiting for the "Yet"

I must've got lucky with a Mini (XT1030) off fleabay that still had 4.2.2 on it. $25 in BTC to jcase and Sunshine open-sesame'd the bootloader without issue.
I haven't done any downgrading on a Motorola, but I did pull the stock boot.img/recovery.img/system.img of this Mini before flashing TWRP. Then immediately made a TWRP backup folder of the stock system. Not sure if these could get a locked 4.4+ backwards to where it could be unlocked, but I can provide upon request.

downtimeguy said:
I must've got lucky with a Mini (XT1030) off fleabay that still had 4.2.2 on it. $25 in BTC to jcase and Sunshine open-sesame'd the bootloader without issue.
I haven't done any downgrading on a Motorola, but I did pull the stock boot.img/recovery.img/system.img of this Mini before flashing TWRP. Then immediately made a TWRP backup folder of the stock system. Not sure if these could get a locked 4.4+ backwards to where it could be unlocked, but I can provide upon request.
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I'm interesting in trying to downgrade to try to unlock. What do you need from me?

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I'm interesting in trying to downgrade to try to unlock.
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Oh how I wish that were possible!
However, all I have heard and read says that it is not possible to downgrade from 4.4.4 to anything else lower. But if there is a way I would be willing to try.

classic757 said:
Oh how I wish that were possible!
However, all I have heard and read says that it is not possible to downgrade from 4.4.4 to anything else lower. But if there is a way I would be willing to try.
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What I can provide access to are the following:
> boot.img / recovery.img / system.img files extracted from Droid Mini 4.2.2 over adb
> TWRP backup folder containing Data/System/Boot from Droid Mini 4.2.2 prior to flashing new firmware
I have no idea if any of these could be manipulated into allowing 4.2.2 to boot. I assume root access can be managed in 4.4.4 but I have no idea if that's enough to manually modify the system. But if someone wants to experiment then I'll upload them onto a file site somewhere.

downtimeguy said:
What I can provide access to are the following:
> boot.img / recovery.img / system.img files extracted from Droid Mini 4.2.2 over adb
> TWRP backup folder containing Data/System/Boot from Droid Mini 4.2.2 prior to flashing new firmware
I have no idea if any of these could be manipulated into allowing 4.2.2 to boot. I assume root access can be managed in 4.4.4 but I have no idea if that's enough to manually modify the system. But if someone wants to experiment then I'll upload them onto a file site somewhere.
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Thanks. Not sure either if any of that would work. I do know that root access is possible on 4.4.4 with @CrashXXL's root method but unfortunately it does not disable write protection so I do not think any modifications can be made to the system.
However, you can still upload the files you have if you want.
You can PM me the site info if you don't feel comfortable putting that info on here. :good:

Artimunor said:
My main problem with the turbo is that it can become very hot, i think the design choise with the droid maxx to put in the X8 processor was a very good one, but not so popular because it did not look so great on paper.
The droid turbo had the best processor available at that time, meaning it looked great on paper but somehow it has to heat up also when navigating for example
So strange that the droid maxx can navigate without any stutters and only get slightly warm, while the turbo and many other phones get very hot, and after a couple hours of driving in a warm climate even get overheating warnings.
Lets hope this years droid will be better (not on paper but in reality)
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in the same way, i think moto staying away from the 800 series of processor for the dmaxx 2 will pay off nicely. Just have to wait for sunshine to support it before i hop on it from my dmaxx, which has been an amazing phone.

mistermojorizin said:
in the same way, i think moto staying away from the 800 series of processor for the dmaxx 2 will pay off nicely. Just have to wait for sunshine to support it before i hop on it from my dmaxx, which has been an amazing phone.
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well sadly the 615 is still 28nm tech, was hoping for a really powerefficient 14nm processor, it's not like those are not out there yet...

Rooting the Hydrogen One

I've received my phone and contrary to the review sites, it's a very cool and unique device with an incredible screen as well as a huge battery!
As a long time power user who has always rooted his phones, I've gone through and tried to unlock the bootloader but so far to no avail
My hope is to get into fastboot and then OEM unlock the bootloader at least, then get into sideloading Magisk at a minimum and hopefully down the line, get TWRP on there and then a custom ROM such as AEX to give me all the tweaks I'm missing compared to my Oneplus 3T with AEX on it! Look forward to the discussion and hopefully someone with good skills can get hold of the phone to make it happen! Thx

I have enabled Developer Mode and OEM unlock is an option so it's most definitely rootable. But the chances of this phone getting near a big enough user database to get dev's working on it is unlikely. But here's to hoping

RLKirk said:
I have enabled Developer Mode and OEM unlock is an option so it's most definitely rootable. But the chances of this phone getting near a big enough user database to get dev's working on it is unlikely. But here's to hoping
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Yes, the OEM Unlock gives me hope. I haven't been able to get to the fastboot system to try it though. Did you manage to get there? The usual volume up plus power on boot doesn't work.

I don't think this will be a rootable phone, you can get as far as fastboot but it requires a hash-code for unlocking. Unless a third party can decode it Red will not share I have asked. Unfortunately this really sucks because there are definitely some things that could be fixed with a few hacks ie. back light, audio levels, scrolling responsiveness.
<----Bummed

That really sucks that Red won't give us an unlock code. I love the 4V but without root I really can't use the phone as a daily driver. As you say, too many things which could be fixed but won't be without root.

Fingers crossed for someone in the US getting the phone through AT&T et al who is also good at hacking. Otherwise I think I may end up selling the phone at an unfortunate loss

visceralpsyche said:
Fingers crossed for someone in the US getting the phone through AT&T et al who is also good at hacking. Otherwise I think I may end up selling the phone at an unfortunate loss
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Yeah I like the 4V display but that is the only thing the phone has going for it.and it makes it quite boring for me. (I'm used to HTC and Samsung). Also the screen size is a turn off and the huge bezels everywhere. Believe it or not I would rather have the pixel 3 with its horrendous notch. Which is the most upsetting phone edition since apple. I would say this phone would be great with root and roms and if that happens I may give it another go. But for now I think I'm just going to let it go...

Great news! Red has responded to me on Facebook saying they are open to unlocking the bootloader for non-carrier devices (ie those bought directly from Red).
So there's hope!

visceralpsyche said:
Great news! Red has responded to me on Facebook saying they are open to unlocking the bootloader for non-carrier devices (ie those bought directly from Red).
So there's hope!
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Yes, they told me they would do this. But they won't give you a code if you have a carrier phone.

StormCell said:
Yes, they told me they would do this. But they won't give you a code if you have a carrier phone.
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Yes but that's pretty much standard ops for carriers due to their onerous rules. Buy unlocked from Red directly if you plan to root ?

Nice
Thats nice to hear as it s an mandatory point for an loot of user.
Me too after 3 years i want replace my lg g4 white the titanium version.
Another good think i found after request is the phone support aptx hd
h4v.com/faq (thx for censoring any new member from free spech and links)
Yes, Bluetooth™ 5.0, A2DP, LE, aptX HD
Now i need information about usb 3.1 and quickcharge 3.0 + (is the snapdragon 835 not mandatory this ?) and if it worked in eu band (germany) if i imported it

GaliumOrderatum said:
Now i need information about usb 3.1 and quickcharge 3.0 + (is the snapdragon 835 not mandatory this ?) and if it worked in eu band (germany) if i imported it
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Yes it works fine in the EU. I'm in the Netherlands ?
It has USB-C and QC3.0 as well.

USB-C means 3.1 + ??
Somebody have information about an eu release ?? The damm tax for importing is extrem ......
If i calculate it for the titan version you can buy an V30 ore higher 512 gb micro sd for thats burning money ..............

There's a new thread on h4vuser for rooting stuff. So if you are interested in rooting please comment there where Red staff can see it ??
https://h4vuser.net/t/rooting-unlocking-bootloader/5972

visceralpsyche said:
Yes it works fine in the EU. I'm in the Netherlands
It has USB-C and QC3.0 as well.
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works fine in belgium to

Hi, how i find this option , unlock OEM

visceralpsyche said:
Great news! Red has responded to me on Facebook saying they are open to unlocking the bootloader for non-carrier devices (ie those bought directly from Red).
So there's hope!
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Did you ever get that unlock code?

No, they went radio silent
I've posted at h4vuser.net several times but no one seems interested. I love the H4V but can't use it as a daily driver without being in charge of my own device.

I have successfully unlocked my bootloader but im not a developer so i dont know how to compile a TWRP for it but but if any one does know how i really would like to assist in getting this device rooted i have been trying since they day it was released

What was your method to unlock the bootloader?