I used to be a rom/kernel flasher daily starting all the way back to Nexus One and Nexus S phones, but eventually jumped ship to the iPhone 5s after the absolute **** audio and build quality of the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 (which I still have factory plastic on).
Since then I have sold and bought the iPhone yearly using Swappa, and now that I am up to the iPhone 6s Plus, I am getting really bored of IOS again. I plan on still keeping my iPhone 6s Plus, but want a second phone to use intermittently when I sell it in July.
I tried windows phone for a day, and said nope, this blows. So my choice is between Nexus 6p and S7 Edge. While the edge hardware looks amazing, I always appreciated the direct from Google updates and the unlocked boot loaders of the Nexus. So here are my questions:
How is the build quality of 6p vs S7 Edge
Is the audio qulality of either phoneup to par with iPhone 6s Plus
Camera Quality Decent?
Are the Screen poorly calibrated still, and are there kernels for that currently
How usefull are the fingerprint readers on Android now?
Can you reccomend cloud apps for this phone to sync with my ipad pro?
I have had all three (now currently with N6P, so here goes point by point):
-Build quality is excellent both on Edge and 6SPlus: equal. Very good on 6P but there are the reports of bending which I have not had an issue with. While premium, the other 2 phones feel a bit more elegant but that isn't a negative.
-Audio quality is very good on 6P (front facing stereo speakers); good on Edge and good on Apple (they both lack stereo speakers. It just sounds better to me on 6P though some say speakers are not as loud).
-Best camera is now Edge; very good to excellent cams on both 6P (major upgrade from prior Nexus devices) and Apple.
-Poor calibrated screen on 6P (I went through 5 of them but a custome kernel fixed that!), gorgeous screen on Edge; Apple is good but lags.
-Fingerprint scanner is excellent on 6P and is much faster than Edge (which is still good!) and Apple (which is also still good!).
-I use Google Drive, Amazon Drive, Dropbox and Box.
I sent the Edge back because of the price (I buy outright) and I am now missing it's 2 greatest features: camera and display. With that, the 6P is also very good and it is serving my purpose, especially since it is 40%+ less in price than Edge and Apple.
Apple was boring to me. I just couldn't take it any longer and that damn home button controls everything. I had it jailbroken which made it better, but I prefer the speed and multitasking capabilities of Android any day (not starting flame wars -- I gave Apple my best shot for 5 months and kept an open mind).
I'm looking at both these phones right now...but the store I'm looking at only has 2 S7s left in stock
There's a $40 cad difference in cost between the two
My #1 priority on a phone is headphone audio quality. #2 is camera quality
This is why I'm struggling so much between the two phones.
The Axon 7 does come with a case/screen protector and pair of Monster npulse headphones as well, which is a nice bonus over the s7 which is just the phone
Which would you get?
Also, I've been reading alot of negativity towards the Axon 7's low light performance. Has anyone tried using manual mode in low light to see if this is still an issue? Based on the images I've seen, it appears to be software using too high of an ISO setting causing much of the problems.
I just got my axon yesterday and camera is average to disappointing. Software is kinda glitchy at times but lighter than TouchWiz though TW has improved. The 640 DPI on axon is maddening and can't really be changed without affecting some apps if that is a concern but move Nova launcher does help to some extent. Battery is average though not stellar. . You can unlock bootloader on axon but it voids warranty if you care about that.
Speakers and screen are very very good.
If you are looking to save money the axon may suffice
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I just got my axon yesterday and camera is average to disappointing. Software is kinda glitchy at times but lighter than TouchWiz though TW has improved. The 640 DPI on axon is maddening and can't really be changed without affecting some apps if that is a concern but move Nova launcher does help to some extent. Battery is average though not stellar. If you are looking to save money the axon may suffice.
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How would you say the audio quality through headphones compares to the S7/Note 7?
I know the speakers on the device are vastly superior...but what about headphones?
May be slightly better but I am not one for these processed artificial dolby layers. I found the edge to be quite decent as well as Note 7 if you fiddle with equalizer and it depends on quality of headphones or earbuds. That is more subjective.
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I am selling my Axon for an S7 Edge. I will miss the awesome speakers but feel pretty much everything else is better on the Edge. Camera, screen, battery life, polished UI, etc. But man will i miss the speakers, the little speaker on the edge sounds horrible.
I hear you, no pun intended but any serious listening I use headphones or earbuds. The Edge and Note speaker is good enough for me for phone calls, etc. Would have been nice if they had stereo but everything else is improved over the axon but heck, can't beat that price for what the axon does.
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My #1 priority on a phone is headphone audio quality. #2 is camera quality
This is why I'm struggling so much between the two phones.
The Axon 7 does come with a case/screen protector and pair of Monster npulse headphones as well, which is a nice bonus over the s7 which is just the phone
Which would you get?
Also, I've been reading alot of negativity towards the Axon 7's low light performance. Has anyone tried using manual mode in low light to see if this is still an issue? Based on the images I've seen, it appears to be software using too high of an ISO setting causing much of the problems.
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1.- Speakers the Axon 7 is a beast and with headphones is 2xbeast :silly:, really love the sound from this device.
2.- Camera fails in Low Light ,not like is terrible to no good, but is the only downside I see so far compare to others. But is mostly software and as far as I know ZTE is working for fix, other than that takes good picture
Note : using Manual mode can make things a lot better, most of the reviews uses Auto Mode so FYI.
3.- the skin in the Axon 7 is close to stock + some OEM tweaks here and there, I use Nova prime for my needs and I really have no complains.
4.- having captive nag. Buttons is a big plus,
5.- The design and feels is super b, like it better than G5 or S7 Edge.
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The only area s7 family wins is in waterproof other than that Axon 7 is a pretty nice device , but is just my opinion.
DrakenFX said:
1.- Speakers the Axon 7 is a beast and with headphones is 2xbeast :silly:, really love the sound from this device.
2.- Camera fails in Low Light ,not like is terrible to no good, but is the only downside I see so far compare to others. But is mostly software and as far as I know ZTE is working for fix, other than that takes good picture
Note : using Manual mode can make things a lot better, most of the reviews uses Auto Mode so FYI.
3.- the skin in the Axon 7 is close to stock + some OEM tweaks here and there, I use Nova prime for my needs and I really have no complains.
4.- having captive nag. Buttons is a big plus,
5.- The design and feels is super b, like it better than G5 or S7 Edge.
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The only area s7 family wins is in waterproof other than that Axon 7 is a pretty nice device , but is just my opinion.
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How would you say it compares to the camera on the G4?
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How would you say it compares to the camera on the G4?
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Good question haven't actually compare my G4 to my A7...but what I can tell you using Auto-Mode in both devices, the A7 is better with good lighting conditions (AutoMode) and the G4 is slightly better in Low Light LG have betterxmore polish camera software (AutoMode) , things change a bit more when use Manual more.
Just considering lg is a actual Camera manufacture and have way more experience with camera software.
A lot A7 issues are software related and theoretical could be fixed by software patch. That being said ...if you don't care about rooting I would go with galaxy. Touchwiz has gotten a lot better. Only sacrifice is speakers are better on A7 if you care about that. GS7 has terrible speaker.
Either one is a good choice but headphones will sound close same (very margin better on A7) and camera Iis way better on gs7. Battery life maybe better on g7 till custom ROMs are built for a7.
G7 is better for what you want IMO
And if you are a VZW subscriber, I really doubt the axon will get whitelisted for it to work correctly and fully.
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And if you are a VZW subscriber, I really doubt the axon will get whitelisted for it to work correctly and fully.
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I'm with Rogers in Canada.
Here's a total breakdown of what I'm looking at
Open Box Sprint S7s are going for $621.49 after tax. Adding in $30 for a case and screen protector I'd be looking $650 all in
The Axon 7 comes to a total of $598.97 all in and includes a pair of Monster NPulse headphones with the order.(don't care about the headphones...but I could sell them for ~$100 or just gift them)
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I'm with Rogers in Canada.
Here's a total breakdown of what I'm looking at
Open Box Sprint S7s are going for $621.49 after tax. Adding in $30 for a case and screen protector I'd be looking $650 all in
The Axon 7 comes to a total of $598.97 all in and includes a pair of Monster NPulse headphones with the order.(don't care about the headphones...but I could sell them for ~$100 or just gift them)
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At those price points, S7 (edge???) is really a much better option. Sound can be EQd and Camera runs laps around this one, i am not as optimistic in ZTE getting it much more better. Manual mode is nice but it takes dialing in. If we ever get full API2 then a proper camera app maybe can do better. The waterproofing is also nice thing to have, it expands usage of the phone. For $50 diff it's a no brainier and it even has root-ability for now i think, so you can run customize it to extent with xposed. The only drawback would be if you are not into all that glass.
if they dont fix this camera im out. better take best camera from market than stereo speakers.
Had s7e exynos and hated it. Couldn't stand glass body soap shape, easily dirty, full of fingerprints (i do like metal unibody phones). Also TW is nasty, audio thru headphones really dissapointing (there is also a thread in s7e section). Only camera was impressive, i mean incredible fast auto focus. Besides photos look amazing at phone, but when i watched them on tv or PC they were over sharpened, too agressive post produced. I felt relief selling this overpriced shiny piece of crap.
Don't forget screen gonna piss you off cause of accidental touches of this nonsense edges.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone! I found someone selling an S7 locally today for too good of a deal to pass up, so it made my decision easy
S7 is a better phone, no question about it. I have s7 active for work.
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hello,
i´ve compared the volume output with 3 different headphones (shure se215, sennheiser cx685 and teufel turn) and my old honor 7 is much louder and punchy compared with the axon 7. (no matter if dolby atmos is on or off) i am really disappointed about this thing because i hope the a7 is an improvment. maybe is the loudness of the a7 limited?
with the honor 7 i can´t listen for a long time a full volume because its too loud... (with the shure/ sennheiser)
the sound quality is good on the a7 but also on the honor 7 there is no distortion at high levels (the speakers on the a7 are plainly better!)
i tested it on both devices with the stock player, soundcloud and youtube. (mp3s with 320kbit)
is something wrong with my a7?
other "problems": no lte connection in austria
no wifi connection possible
I already created a thread for it. Also I'm really disappointed, lucky also have axon 7 from USA besides EU version. American axon 7 is awesome in audio aspects.
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If you choose a custom Dolby equalizer setting it gets louder. If you then adjust it, it gets even louder.
Let's email German ZTE about issues. European customers should get the same product as Americans, more we pay, less we get. Not fair
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nathasnajperowa said:
Let's email German ZTE about issues. European customers should get the same product as Americans, more we pay, less we get. Not fair
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Definitely agree! They need to know what's up. Because what's the point of making it less loud with default eq and louder with custom eq. Doesn't make sense at all.
Do you still think the V20 is worth getting in 2017 in the context of S8/+ that's here & coming Essential phone, Pixel 2s, Note 8, V30 none of which are expected to have a user replaceable battery it seems (could this be the last high end model with a user replaceable battery after the Samsung Note 4) & its current <$400 price?
So what do you still like about your V20, what don't you like & is there a best model to get for updates or other factors?:good:
My initial impressions/background: I liked the V20 when it first came out for its removable battery, expandable storage, bright IPS sharp display, fingerprint reader & power button in a very sensible location, the secondary screen & IR blaster but didn't think it was worth the $800 price without front facing stereo speakers & wasn't particularly impressed by the cameras especially front facing but now it can be had for <$400 & hate my Nexus 6P battery life at this point while loving my Samsung Note 4 quick swappable battery. I also have a Moto X Pure I got a great deal on ~18 months ago with its great front facing stereo speakers & bright IPS display & expandable storage but it's battery life also is weak without a user replaceable battery.
I will take another look at the V20 at its current price, is there are difference between unlocked http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan & T-Mobile http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H918-Titan-v20 (which I could unlock if needed) with warranty & international LG V20 H990DS Unlocked International Model-No Warranty model in terms of updates or other factors because I've read that the Unlocked US996 model has not been getting updates while I'm wondering if the T-Mobile or International gets updates..?
Despite Quad DAC, I was disappointed by the V20 speaker but have since found https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HEYIPGK impressive headphone jack speaker & https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XYBWXG1 cool compact floating bluetooth waterproof speaker that will make it easier to bypass that weakness & could use another phone I have if the front facing camera continues to disappoint. I also saw some impressive V20 video optical image stabilization footage.
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I watched a lot of reviews before getting the v20. Coming from the Note 4 edge I can say I'm happy with it. I just got sick of Samsungs bloatware.
I would say if you're not an audiophile and use your camera in auto mode then there is little going for the v20
k.dos said:
I watched a lot of reviews before getting the v20. Coming from the Note 4 edge I can say I'm happy with it. I just got sick of Samsungs bloatware.
I would say if you're not an audiophile and use your camera in auto mode then there is little going for the v20
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Interesting since I have the Note 4 & love the battery swapability, I'm going to watch more video reviews before a decision. I am an audiophile so its single downward speaker was a deal breaker at it original 2x asking price compared to my Nexus 6P & Moto X Pure front facing stereo speakers but just would likely use external speakers (headphones-bluetooth speakers) with it. I'll test out the camera manual mode features when I take another look, I like options as long as it doesn't take too long to get through them.
Do you have the unlocked or a carrier model-do you care about the updates issue?
If a removable battery is a high priority then the v20 would be worth it on that alone because I think this phone is the last of the removable battery featured in a high end phone. V30 looks to be going the way of the G6.
Really sucks I am disappointed with smart phones trend to go the non-removable, glass enclosed and stupid 30 minute water resistance.
Its an excellent phone and I think it's a better value than the G6 is.
Samsung is just bloated garbage, so much junkware I would not pick an s8. Samsung has this idea that their phones are worth more than the competition and their continued trend of increasing phone prices is something I do not support.
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Another nice feature is the second screen, set it to "always on" (still turns off in your pocket etc) and you can see the time and notifications without having to touch the phone at all.
The v20 is just a bit taller then the Note 4 but slightly thinner, it fits just a well in my hand and feels better due to its all metal back. If you like the size of the Note you'll have no problem with the v20
My biggest complaint is the glass has a slight curve at the top and bottom that make full tempered glass screen proctors nearly impossible. I have noticeable scratches in my screen because I didnt want to use a plastic screen protector!!!
Also the power button on the back to me is a bit weird and I miss the physical home buttons.
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If a removable battery is a high priority then the v20 would be worth it on that alone because I think this phone is the last of the removable battery featured in a high end phone. V30 looks to be going the way of the G6.
Really sucks I am disappointed with smart phones trend to go the non-removable, glass enclosed and stupid 30 minute water resistance.
Its an excellent phone and I think it's a better value than the G6 is.
Samsung is just bloated garbage, so much junkware I would not pick an s8. Samsung has this idea that their phones are worth more than the competition and their continued trend of increasing phone prices is something I do not support.
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I do find it ironic that Samsung moved away from the Note 4's removable battery to subsequently have enclosed battery defects overheat-explode costing them billions which could have been avoided if they just stuck with the removable batteries that had made consumers-power users happy. Also why not just have an Active/Sport model or even Samsung designed cases for those who want manufacture certified water resistance..?
I did know before I got the Nexus 6P that its enclosed battery would cause issues but not as bad or quick as it did which only reinforces my appreciation for removable batteries. I will likely still go through the hassle of replacing its enclosed battery but I've had to carry around and depend on external batteries with a sense of dread over the N6P's degrading internal battery life. I may ask the Essential phone team for example why they & Google no longer care about removable batteries or headphone jacks (is it to conform to Apple proprietary "curator" ways instead of empowering the actual end users)?
I'd be willing to pay the high prices if there weren't such compromises..
k.dos said:
Another nice feature is the second screen, set it to "always on" (still turns off in your pocket etc) and you can see the time and notifications without having to touch the phone at all.
The v20 is just a bit taller then the Note 4 but slightly thinner, it fits just a well in my hand and feels better due to its all metal back. If you like the size of the Note you'll have no problem with the v20
My biggest complaint is the glass has a slight curve at the top and bottom that make full tempered glass screen proctors nearly impossible. I have noticeable scratches in my screen because I didnt want to use a plastic screen protector!!!
Also the power button on the back to me is a bit weird and I miss the physical home buttons.
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I typically use a case (with a lip to protect the screen) like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5M72E0 without screen protectors & have never had screen damage. Gorilla glass 4 with case lip not enough?
I like its fingerprint-power button location & hope it will cause less accidental power offs than on sides near volume controls & I haven't personally missed the physical home button. Regarding the kind of control the user has over the secondary screen I found the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yInN7OV4M3k useful.
When I take another look at the V20 this week I will run through all the options but always appreciate owner experience feedback
So no difference between the US996 Unlocked model vs carrier/T-mobile model in terms of updates (or Wi-Fi Calling calling)?
SMARTPHONEPC said:
I am an audiophile so its single downward speaker was a deal breaker at it original 2x asking price compared to my Nexus 6P & Moto X Pure front facing stereo speakers but just would likely use external speakers (headphones-bluetooth speakers) with it.
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Sorry, but an audiophile would not be interested in the quality of the speakers even if there were two of them.
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I purchased an unlocked G4 which was supposed to have been comparable with all my T-mobile carrier bands. But I later learned in a Redditt post that it in fact was missing an important one which resulted in connectivity problems. So when the prices dropped on the V20, I made sure to get the carrier model. Now I have much better reception as well as Wifi Calling and FM radio, neither of which are available through the unlocked version.
jian said:
Sorry, but an audiophile would not be interested in the quality of the speakers even if there were two of them.
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OK jian I'll let you the true audiophile define what sounds good to me in every practical circumstance.. I'll also give up bluetooth forever only to buy your brand of wired equipment to live in your good graces..
I profusely apologize that I can appreciate handheld dual front facing stereo speakers as offered in my Nexus 6P & Moto X Pure.
Sarcasm aside, I won't make excuses for LGs easily muffled V20's uninspiring single downward firing mono speaker.
BTW, is there a failing speaker issue https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+v20+speaker+issue or is it the speaker grille according to https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...eaker-sound-with-simple-hardware-mod-0176333/ & https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/enable-dual-speaker-stereo-sound-your-lg-v20-0176433/ ?
Lg v20 DS990 is below $400 on ebay. Great price. Standby is amazing, manual mode and audio superb. Battery drains 15% or more per hour with screen on, but batteries are cheap. Auto camera mode is poor, including autofocus. Great build quality, no bootloops. So if you are okay with these things, go for it! It's crazy paying 800 for Samsung, made from effing glass! And this comes with screen protector already applied. Dropped it once with Spiegel cash (must have case), no problems. Phone is fast and I love secondary screen.
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I purchased an unlocked G4 which was supposed to have been comparable with all my T-mobile carrier bands. But I later learned in a Redditt post that it in fact was missing an important one which resulted in connectivity problems. So when the prices dropped on the V20, I made sure to get the carrier model. Now I have much better reception as well as Wifi Calling and FM radio, neither of which are available through the unlocked version.
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Thanks Medevac1 but that's comparing 2 different devices, has anyone compared or experienced the unlocked US996 model vs the T-mobile H918 model on T-Mobile?
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan
"US996 Unlocked Technical Specifications:
Technology CDMA, WCDMA, GSM, UMTS, LTE
Network CDMA, GSM, LTE Multi-Band/Multi-Mode
Frequencies CDMA 1.9 GHz CDMA PCS/800 MHz CDMA; GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; LTE Bands 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25
Data Transmission EVDO, EVDO Rev A, 1xRTT, LTE, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+, HSPA
Connectivity:
4G LTE Network* Yes
Mobile Hotspot** Share a 4G LTE data connection with 8 other compatible wireless devices***
* 4G LTE network not available everywhere
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
** Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability."
Vs.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H918-Titan-v20
"T-Mobile H918 Technical Specifications:
Technology GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Network GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Frequencies GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, LTE Bands 2/4/12/66, Roaming 1/3/5/7/13/20, WCDMA Bands B2/B4, WCDMA Roaming B1/B5
Data Transmission GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/LTE
Connectivity:
T-Mobile 4G LTE Network* Yes
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
VoLTE Capability Enables HD Voice****** and enhanced communications over the cellular network***
* T-Mobile’s 4G LTE Network not available everywhere
** T-Mobile Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability. Additional charges may apply.
*** Depends on network availability.
Where I usually am T-Mobile is best at the moment (speed tested all carriers but not with this device) but that could change over time or obviously when traveling where T-Mobile is far less reliably good so shouldn't I get the unlocked US996 model..?
T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling (& FM radio) can not be enabled in the unlocked US996 model?
herrzeba said:
Lg v20 DS990 is below $400 on ebay. Great price. Standby is amazing, manual mode and audio superb. Battery drains 15% or more per hour with screen on, but batteries are cheap. Auto camera mode is poor, including autofocus. Great build quality, no bootloops. So if you are okay with these things, go for it! It's crazy paying 800 for Samsung, made from effing glass! And this comes with screen protector already applied. Dropped it once with Spiegel cash (must have case), no problems. Phone is fast and I love secondary screen.
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Anyone here in the US using the LG V20 H990DS 64GB Dual Sim, GSM Unlocked International Model, No Warranty model on T-Mobile or any carrier?
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks Medevac1 but that's comparing 2 different devices, has anyone compared or experienced the unlocked US996 model vs the T-mobile H918 model on T-Mobile?
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan
"US996 Unlocked Technical Specifications:
Technology CDMA, WCDMA, GSM, UMTS, LTE
Network CDMA, GSM, LTE Multi-Band/Multi-Mode
Frequencies CDMA 1.9 GHz CDMA PCS/800 MHz CDMA; GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; LTE Bands 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25
Data Transmission EVDO, EVDO Rev A, 1xRTT, LTE, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+, HSPA
Connectivity:
4G LTE Network* Yes
Mobile Hotspot** Share a 4G LTE data connection with 8 other compatible wireless devices***
* 4G LTE network not available everywhere
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
** Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability."
Vs.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H918-Titan-v20
"T-Mobile H918 Technical Specifications:
Technology GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Network GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Frequencies GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, LTE Bands 2/4/12/66, Roaming 1/3/5/7/13/20, WCDMA Bands B2/B4, WCDMA Roaming B1/B5
Data Transmission GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/LTE
Connectivity:
T-Mobile 4G LTE Network* Yes
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
VoLTE Capability Enables HD Voice****** and enhanced communications over the cellular network***
* T-Mobile’s 4G LTE Network not available everywhere
** T-Mobile Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability. Additional charges may apply.
*** Depends on network availability.
Where I usually am T-Mobile is best at the moment (speed tested all carriers but not with this device) but that could change over time or obviously when traveling where T-Mobile is far less reliably good so shouldn't I get the unlocked US996 model..?
T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling (& FM radio) can not be enabled in the unlocked US996 model?
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Why can't GM radio be enable I think what US unlocked version?
My post was more a comparison of experiences rather than phone to phone. Both the LG 4 unlocked and the V20 were US996 models which were originally designed to work for US Cellular phones. I was just pointing out that given this there are certain trade offs with using these phones on the TMO network.
Pretty sure I'm getting one just because of the replaceable battery.
Just can't decide between the unlocked US version and Verizon version.
LG just announced they were making the bootloader unlock app available for all Unlocked models of those phones.
I think the VZW version may have been updated to eliminate the unlocking capability.
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Pretty sure I'm getting one just because of the replaceable battery.
Just can't decide between the unlocked US version and Verizon version.
LG just announced they were making the bootloader unlock app available for all Unlocked models of those phones.
I think the VZW version may have been updated to eliminate the unlocking capability.
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Wait really? so that means i can root my sprint lg v20 which is on zv6?
kel29738 said:
Wait really? so that means i can root my sprint lg v20 which is on zv6?
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The following phones can now have their bootloader's unlocked by LG unlocking tool.
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
• LG G6: US997.USA for the U.S. open market
• LG G6: H870 for the European market
• LG V20: US996.USA for the U.S. open market
• LG V10: H960A for the European market and Android M (Except France)
• LG G5 SE: H840 for the European market
• LG G5: RS988 for the U.S. open market
• LG G5: H850 for the European market
• LG G4: H815 for the European market
So this makes the unlocked version a plus.
Checked out the V20 again Monday night in an AT&T store but only had like 20 minutes where it was next to the G6 & not too far away from the Samsung S8+. Issues I'd like to be able to resolve before hitting a buy button even at this lower price:
1) If I bought the V20 it would be the worst built in speaker I've ever put up with (maybe this unit was defective but I shouldn't assume so). Beyond videos, music however brief, voicecalls, I'd frankly like everything to sound acceptable without external speakers so I'd have to try How To Fix/Improve LG V20 Speaker Sound Quality. That YouTube video unfortunately does not demonstrate before-after, has anyone done this "simple hardware mod" described at https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/improve-your-lg-v20s-speaker-sound-with-simple-hardware-mod-0176333 with what results?
I could comment that the G6 speaker did sound more acceptable in a brief test (but still not impressive) & when I looked at the same downward firing speaker location on the G6 it did not appear to have any or at least the same thick crowded speaker grill that could be muffling the V20 sound so perhaps it could be improved..
2) Screen is too blue as reported at https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/color-calibration-screen-to-6504k-v20-t3484489 so I'd have to try https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/arent-satisfied-v20-screen-color-temp-t3492061 - https://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-v20/739129-how-adjustlg-v20-screen-color-calibration.html , has anyone done this?
The AT&T store model does not let me get into settings so as is the V20 screen was not as good as my Moto X Pure (colors or brightness) but the V20's brightness spectrum seemed acceptable & hopefully the aforementioned color adjustment can be improved while my Nexus 6P whites are comparatively yellowish. The Samsung S8+ colors & brightness were impressive but still didn't feel the need to get it overall especially without a removable battery.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Checked out the V20 again Monday night in an AT&T store but only had like 20 minutes where it was next to the G6 & not too far away from the Samsung S8+. Issues I'd like to be able to resolve before hitting a buy button even at this lower price:
1) If I bought the V20 it would be the worst built in speaker I've ever put up with (maybe this unit was defective but I shouldn't assume so). Beyond videos, music however brief, voicecalls, I'd frankly like everything to sound acceptable without external speakers so I'd have to try How To Fix/Improve LG V20 Speaker Sound Quality. That YouTube video unfortunately does not demonstrate before-after, has anyone done this "simple hardware mod" described at https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/improve-your-lg-v20s-speaker-sound-with-simple-hardware-mod-0176333 with what results?
I could comment that the G6 speaker did sound more acceptable in a brief test (but still not impressive) & when I looked at the same downward firing speaker location on the G6 it did not appear to have any or at least the same thick crowded speaker grill that could be muffling the V20 sound so perhaps it could be improved..
2) Screen is too blue as reported at https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/color-calibration-screen-to-6504k-v20-t3484489 so I'd have to try https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/arent-satisfied-v20-screen-color-temp-t3492061 - https://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-v20/739129-how-adjustlg-v20-screen-color-calibration.html , has anyone done this?
The AT&T store model does not let me get into settings so as is the V20 screen was not as good as my Moto X Pure (colors or brightness) but the V20's brightness spectrum seemed acceptable & hopefully the aforementioned color adjustment can be improved while my Nexus 6P whites are comparatively yellowish. The Samsung S8+ colors & brightness were impressive but still didn't feel the need to get it overall especially without a removable battery.
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ymDroid posted about https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIAAM853A4091 where you can see the potentially sound muffling speaker grill in question that owners have removed as detailed above, close ups below:
I can try to install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.lumen on the store demo model for color calibration controls. Even unrooted, I find it worth the install.