I have searched everywhere for a way to get root without unlocking the bootloader. I want to enable double tap to wake on my wife's 6P, but I don't want to wipe her data during the bootloader unlock process. Thanks everyone for any help.
cagmuer said:
I have searched everywhere for a way to get root without unlocking the bootloader. I want to enable double tap to wake on my wife's 6P, but I don't want to wipe her data during the bootloader unlock process. Thanks everyone for any help.
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No.
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If you don't unlock the bootloader, you can't flash a custom recovery. If you can't flash a custom recovery, you can't install a custom rom or possibly the su binary. Unlocking essentially bypasses the verify process on boot; it verifies the rom, recovery, etc. is the signed official version. I've understood some tools may be able to allow root on an locked bootloader, but I'm not sure for the 6P.
Unless you care about Pay, just backup the phone and unlock it.
was hoping a dev could figure this out. i just want root for root apps and flashfire to flash things. kind of sucks having a nexus that requires an unlocked bootloader for root but i been on stock rom with locked bootloader after going two weeks with custom roms and no android pay. still hoping it will happen eventually.
rob219 said:
was hoping a dev could figure this out. i just want root for root apps and flashfire to flash things. kind of sucks having a nexus that requires an unlocked bootloader for root but i been on stock rom with locked bootloader after going two weeks with custom roms and no android pay. still hoping it will happen eventually.
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People have had success using Android Pay on a rooted 6P. I think people use magisk and Phil's SU and they are able to hide root from Android Pay and other apps. You should do a search through the forums. A lot of people talk about doing it successfully.
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is there any method to root the nexus 7 without unlock the bootloader?
i read several posts about rooting n7, but every posts needs to unlock the bl first.
and "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" .
but i really don't know what the "cwm" is ! i want to use the stock nexus7 rom with rooted. is the cwm recovery will ruin something original?
could anyone solve my anxiety? thx!
You need to unlock the bootloader in order to root.
WugFresh's toolkit has a friendly interface making this extremely simple:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Follow the instructions within the toolkit to ensure drivers are correct, backup apps, unlock bootloader, root device.
After doing this your Nexus will still be identical to stock.
mythomasy said:
is there any method to root the nexus 7 without unlock the bootloader?
i read several posts about rooting n7, but every posts needs to unlock the bl first.
and "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" .
but i really don't know what the "cwm" is ! i want to use the stock nexus7 rom with rooted. is the cwm recovery will ruin something original?
could anyone solve my anxiety? thx!
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Yep you need to unlock your bootloader to root.
You don't actually need Clock Work Mod recovery in order to be rooted.
In fact, I believe that the Wug Fresh toolkit posted by retrobeans above allows you to root and not install CWM.
Having said that, all CWM does is replace the stock Recovery on your device. This allows you to make backups, flash new ROMs and mods etc. If you never go into it, you will not notice a difference - you will still be running your stock rooted ROM. So i wouldnt be afraid of installing it . Or you can always do it at a later date if you want.
Bootloader can always be relocked with "fastboot oem lock" anyway...
why are you concerned about unlocking, or do you just not understand fastboot?
mythomasy said:
is there any method to root the nexus 7 without unlock the bootloader?
i read several posts about rooting n7, but every posts needs to unlock the bl first.
and "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" .
but i really don't know what the "cwm" is ! i want to use the stock nexus7 rom with rooted. is the cwm recovery will ruin something original?
could anyone solve my anxiety? thx!
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you can use a great toolkit by wugfresh which applies root without cwm. You still need to be unlocked though
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Harry GT-S5830 said:
you can use a great toolkit by wugfresh which applies root without cwm. You still need to be unlocked though
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is there any harm of being "cwm"ed? if not , i will try the easier way of one click root.(btw, i tried the wugfresh's toolkit ,but failed to install the driver...)
CWM (clockwork mod) is just a custom recovery image, from here you can flash files to your phone, wipe data, take full system backups (or restore).
Its a handy way to do key things people require when changing or modifying roms.
If in the future you will want to do any of the above then you will require a custom recovery.
Its not (in my opinion) the best recovery for the nexus 7 though, I use the Team WIN (TWRP) recovery.
You failed to install drivers? Or maybe when you installed Wug's tool it didn't download correctly? If you go and manually install the drivers which come with the tool I don't understand how they would have failed. Not trying to sound condescending or anything so sorry if I do. But Wug's toolkit (I know it's not the only one out there) is extremely easy and efficient. I would try re-downloading and on the driver install part go to
Right Click on computer
Manage
Device Manager, Here you should see a device either not detected or says that it's incorrectly installed blah blah
Right click the device and uninstall
at the top click on "Scan for Hardware Changes" (or something along those lines)
and right click your device when it comes up and the drivers are located wherever you installed his toolkit
I hope this helped and if not then just ignore. :laugh:
mythomasy said:
is there any harm of being "cwm"ed? if not , i will try the easier way of one click root.(btw, i tried the wugfresh's toolkit ,but failed to install the driver...)
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Get the pdanet drivers, cwm is just a custom recovery, for wiping data and caches. Just has a few nice options like backing up full system data and boot.img . No real disadvantage and you can always flash back stock
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Im In Same Situation
is it possible to lock bootloader after and still have root?
Also do you still recive ota updates?
jxer4567 said:
is it possible to lock bootloader after and still have root?
Also do you still recive ota updates?
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You can lock bootloader after.
You can get OTA but you would lose root and also lose your custom recovery, and with a locked bootloader you would be unable to root again
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Thank you bummed a little do i still recive ota with unlocked bootloader so i can have it rooted im wanting to keep original recovery no custom recovery but unlocked bootloader will i get ota?
jxer4567 said:
Thank you bummed a little do i still recive ota with unlocked bootloader so i can have it rooted im wanting to keep original recovery no custom recovery but unlocked bootloader will i get ota?
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Yes, unlocked bootloader does not affect OTA
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So only if i install custom recovery i lose ota just im wary with nexus 7 alot more important than v845
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Sorry fellows, but you are wrong There IS a method to root the Nexus 7 without unlocking the bootloader.
Then you can have root without wipping your data, for instance, as happens when you unlock your BL. And with root you can unlock the BL without wipping your data too. All thanks to efrant with his awesome tutorials! It is in the Galaxy Nexus Forum, but me and some others have reported to be working on the Nexus 7 too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1894717 -- Root without unlocking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731993 -- Unlock BL without wipping
Let me sum it up.
Can i root without unlocking bl? yes.
Can i unlock bl without full wipe , when i do it the first time? no.
So u install pdanet drivers(i know, i had driver problems on my old win xp company laptop), then unlock bl, root. Thats it. u dont need to install CWM(btw, I prefer TWRP).
OTA updates n recovery: As far as i know, u will receive OTA updates whether u have CWM or not, but when u click install for the update, if u have CWM/TWRP, it wont install. It will install properly only if u have stock recovery.
OTA updates n root: U will get n will be able to install updates whether or not u have root. But u will lose root if u install the update. Re rooting is esy if u already have an unlocked BL, but theres an app "voodoo ota rootkeeper", that makes a backup of your root status b4 update n then restores it after update. N its free!! Nice, huh?
Unlocking BL shindig: So u would have 2 reasons for not wanting to keep ur BL unlocked. First, if anything goes wrong(very very very unlikely, believe me I have done a lot of crap on this phone, its extremely hard to brick), u need to return it in BL locked state. Second: Security. If your phone gets stolen n ur BL is unlocked, some guy could easily flash CWM n flash a custom rom n access all your data. For both cases, I suggest a very useful technique.
1.Unlock BL.
2.Root
3.Relock BL.
4. Install app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker. This app will let u unlock BL from within a rooted phone without having to wipe your whole phone. If you are confused at this point, let me explain further, in case something happens to your phone n u need 2 return, u can just return it, if BL is locked, there wont b any issues. Also, if your phone is stolen, the theif wont b able to access it without completely wiping ur phone(unless he is a xda member n knows about that app!!! lol).
Got it?
Lennyuk said:
CWM (clockwork mod) is just a custom recovery image, from here you can flash files to your phone, wipe data, take full system backups (or restore).
Its a handy way to do key things people require when changing or modifying roms.
If in the future you will want to do any of the above then you will require a custom recovery.
Its not (in my opinion) the best recovery for the nexus 7 though, I use the Team WIN (TWRP) recovery.
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I think The peeps who also agree twrp is much better than CWM is grown to the point where is the preimanant force for custom backup now. This Dev is 100% correct in my opinion also
I have a few naive questions
Do I have to do the OEM unlock to root the device? I would prefer not to wipe it.
Assuming I don't hard brick the device, can I go back to stock for warranty work?
Does rooting the device mean I can't get OTA updates from Google? For now I just want to run the stock kernel/rom and get updates. I just want root to run titanium and certain other apps that require root.
I've seen a thread that suggest that the play store (market) doesn't work on rooted devices. Is that true?
sray1 said:
I have a few naive questions
Do I have to do the OEM unlock to root the device? I would prefer not to wipe it.
Assuming I don't hard brick the device, can I go back to stock for warranty work?
Does rooting the device mean I can't get OTA updates from Google? For now I just want to run the stock kernel/rom and get updates. I just want root to run titanium and certain other apps that require root.
I've seen a thread that suggest that the play store (market) doesn't work on rooted devices. Is that true?
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In order to root, you have to unlock the bootloader using the nexus toolkit which unfortunately wipes the device. then you can root it
Yes you can go completely back to stock and relock the bootloader
No, you cant get updates without losing root. so basically you update and then reroot, it takes 5 seconds.
The play store works perfectly fine on rooted devices
jombo2323 said:
No, you cant get updates without losing root. so basically you update and then reroot, it takes 5 seconds.
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So I would get the same OTA update notice and just lose root by telling it to ahead?
However, the bootloader would remain unlocked so the reroot would not require a wipe. Also installing CWM recover would not interfere with any of that.
Is that all correct?
sray1 said:
So I would get the same OTA update notice and just lose root by telling it to ahead?
However, the bootloader would remain unlocked so the reroot would not require a wipe. Also installing CWM recover would not interfere with any of that.
Is that all correct?
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i cant remember if cwm interferes or not. if your just stock then dont worry about it.
yes, it does not require a wipe, just a re root.
Another thing. I haven't done anything about the $25 google credit. Does doing the wipe effect that?
Installing a custom recovery WILL prevent you from receiving OTA updates. The $25 credit is applied to your account and isn't affected by anything you do with your tablet afterward.
sray1 said:
So I would get the same OTA update notice and just lose root by telling it to ahead?
However, the bootloader would remain unlocked so the reroot would not require a wipe. Also installing CWM recover would not interfere with any of that.
Is that all correct?
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There are some apps out that may retain root. OTA RootKeeper in the play store has one Nexus 7 reviewer that claims he retained root from 4.1.0 to 4.1.1
But you are correct, even if you lose root reflashing is a trivial matter.
WugFresh has a toolkit that can do all this for you, including unlocking/rooting but NOT permanently installing CWM if you so desire.
Or, if you prefer a hands-on and more educational approach take a look at my guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1816048
jombo2323 said:
In order to root, you have to unlock the bootloader using the nexus toolkit which unfortunately wipes the device. then you can root it
Yes you can go completely back to stock and relock the bootloader
No, you cant get updates without losing root. so basically you update and then reroot, it takes 5 seconds.
The play store works perfectly fine on rooted devices
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you do not have to use any toolkit. as a fact, toolkits take longer to root the device. this is a nexus device, toolkits are discouraged. all you need to do is fastboot oem unlock, flash your custom recovery via fastboot, then either flash su binaries or your custom rom in recovery, and reboot. that is all. and yes, unlocking your bootloader will wipe the device. thats why its best to do it before you get to comfortable on it.
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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you will need to unlock to flash custom zip, but u can relock after
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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Question - why? What do you want to root your phone for if not to use the wonderful tools of root. Why do you think fully rooting your phone will harm something. Locked or unlocked bootloader is not going to affect your phone. Rooted stock rom with recovery will not make it act funny.... Sorry not putting you out there but just asking why? Feel free to ignore me if you must...
Edit: Sorry to answer your question like the post above said you can root and then lock it right back up if that is your preference
playya said:
Question - why? What do you want to root your phone for if not to use the wonderful tools of root. Why do you think fully rooting your phone will harm something. Locked or unlocked bootloader is not going to affect your phone. Rooted stock rom with recovery will not make it act funny.... Sorry not putting you out there but just asking why? Feel free to ignore me if you must...
Edit: Sorry to answer your question like the post above said you can root and then lock it right back up if that is your preference
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I have come from an HTC Desire, which I rooted and had a custom rom (Cyganonmod) on and was very happy with it.
I am still not sure of what I would gain by doing the same with my Nexus 4 ?
any advice is much appreciated.
Is this new Cyganonmod installer the best way to go?
gjjh25 said:
I have come from an HTC Desire, which I rooted and had a custom rom (Cyganonmod) on and was very happy with it.
I am still not sure of what I would gain by doing the same with my Nexus 4 ?
any advice is much appreciated.
Is this new Cyganonmod installer the best way to go?
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This phone is built for rooting and modding. You wont know what benefit you have until you either read up and see if the mods are ones you want or actually flash a rom. Sure try the CM installer but if you dont toolkits or just basic knowledge of android can get this phone roooted in minutes.
the CM rom on your HTC will give you the same benefits on your Nexus 4
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This phone is built for rooting and modding. You wont know what benefit you have until you either read up and see if the mods are ones you want or actually flash a rom. Sure try the CM installer but if you dont toolkits or just basic knowledge of android can get this phone roooted in minutes.
the CM rom on your HTC will give you the same benefits on your Nexus 4
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Thanks, what do you recommend for the easiest way to unlock and root then?
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Thanks, what do you recommend for the easiest way to unlock and root then?
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I used a toolkit but honestly you can unlock manually by just booting into bootloader mode. Go into development and try Wugs Toolkit.... Rooting the phone is easy and all methods are relatively the same.
I do not see anything wrong with giving CM a try as well
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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I recommend you to stick to your original plan, its your phone, do what you like, you don't need to flash custom roms if you don't want to. I am using stock kernel and stock KitKat right now and the performance is excellent.
Follow these instructions to unlock bootloader, install latest kitkat factory image, install custom TWRP recovery, and root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
The links to fastboot package and driver required is in my signature.
Link to download factory image: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Link for latest TWRP: TWRP recovery
Link for latest SuperSU package: SuperSU package
After you do all that, in bootloader menu, you can flash back the stock recovery (recovery.img), which is location in the "image-occam-******.zip" of the factory image. (fastboot flash recovery recovery.img)
Then lock your bootloader by "fastboot oem lock". You can also use BootUnlocker to lock and unlock your bootloader on the fly while in the phone, without losing your data, since everytime you do fastboot oem unlock, it will wipe the entire device.
By using stock rom, stock recovery, stock kernel and temporarily unroot (SuperSU) or hide root (SuperSU paid version), it allows you to receive future OTA updates from Google. If you want to modify your phones more while staying with stock, read up on Xposed Framework and its module Gravity Box, which is not yet compatible with Android 4.4 but will be eventually.
Just remember if you don't have custom recovery, once something goes wrong and your phone can't boot, its very hard to save the data inside. Once you have custom recovery like TWRP, you can make a backup of your stock image (which also backup your stock kernel) and try out other custom roms and easily go back to stock, then you can flash stock recovery again to receive OTA updates.
Thanks for advice everyone.
I rooted and unlocked with Wugfresh over the weekend. A lot easier than I thought it would be
I am familiar with unlocking bootloaders, cusotmer recoveries and ROMs (came from HTC One M8).
I want to only root without unlocking bootloader - for specific apps (like Titanium backup) - no interest in flashing ROMs so no need to unlock bootloader.
Is it true that this is still not possible on the Moto XT1572?
What have you tried?
Haven't tried anything as I don't want to unlock bootloader and haven't found a way to root without that
There isn't a way, and I doubt there ever will be a way... since the bootloader is unlockable, it is very easy to gain root access.... back in the day when i had a Moto DroidX the bootloader was locked and it took almost a year after the phone came out until someone developed a bootstrapper app that allowed us to hijack to boot process and flash a custom recovery... Since it's so easy to gain access and unlock the bootloader I doubt anyone will ever develop another method to root without unlocking the bootloader
please any body suggest me an easy way(any way) to unlock boot loader and root my device,my ultimate wish is to root my device to remove bloatware. I searched the entire forum for a way to root my device but there are lot of conflicting opinions some say unlocked boot loader is a must for root , some threads say root is required for unlocking the boot loader,i am confused ,please give some advice by witch i can ultimately root my device
my device- ZE550KL
OS - MARSHMALLOW 6.0.1
with locked boot loader and unrooted
2GB ram
I will be grateful to you and ill be glad
I don't know if you can get root if you are on MM without fully switching to CM13.
I think it's pretty "easy", it's depend from the person to person though
There's already thread to unlock BL (no relock atm), and getting root is simply flash supersu.zip
It's just my thoughts, I'm not saying you must do what I'm going to write down here, so I'm not responsible if anything happen
* You need, say TWRP, to get root, how to get TWRP? "flash" recovery right?
* flash custom img (recovery) only possible if BL unlocked, you got bootloop if still locked
* so what if we just boot to twrp? Leave that stock recovery? We don't need that unlocked BL right?
* then the problem come from supersu, default su installation on M+ come in "systemless" mode, which modifying the boot.img, as point 2 above, we can't have non-stock img flashed on locked BL
* so how about make supersu "system", it did work on L with locked BL anyway, it's not modifying any boot.img,
* you could got root w/o unlocking BL by booting twrp, and flash su in system mode
Personally I'm not able to test this, because I love breaking things :silly:
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There's already thread to unlock BL (no relock atm), and getting root is simply flash supersu.zip
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Can you point me to this? I can't seem to find it
THanks
Brett8187 said:
Can you point me to this? I can't seem to find it
THanks
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Really? I don't even need the search function to find this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zen...de-unlock-bootloader-asus-unlock-app-t3405850
*ooh, I should studying using forum tags
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