I am familiar with unlocking bootloaders, cusotmer recoveries and ROMs (came from HTC One M8).
I want to only root without unlocking bootloader - for specific apps (like Titanium backup) - no interest in flashing ROMs so no need to unlock bootloader.
Is it true that this is still not possible on the Moto XT1572?
What have you tried?
Haven't tried anything as I don't want to unlock bootloader and haven't found a way to root without that
There isn't a way, and I doubt there ever will be a way... since the bootloader is unlockable, it is very easy to gain root access.... back in the day when i had a Moto DroidX the bootloader was locked and it took almost a year after the phone came out until someone developed a bootstrapper app that allowed us to hijack to boot process and flash a custom recovery... Since it's so easy to gain access and unlock the bootloader I doubt anyone will ever develop another method to root without unlocking the bootloader
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I have a droid razr m which i rooted using motochopper.
I berly found out that motochopper roots your phone without unlocking the bootloader.
The root was successful, and I want to install a custom rom but i know that i have to have the bootloader unlocked first. so any help if i should Unroot the phone first and then unlock the bootloader, or just try to install the rom
I used this utility to get the job done. Its a rather large download, but it works really well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249773
You could also try simply getting the unlocking tool from this thread and follow the directions. The larger download in the thread I first linked uses the exact same method, but it has a ton of other tools and lets you install cwm or twrp as well.
Also, you could try to use safestrap, which allows you to install a ROM on a locked bootloader.
Really don't want to unlock boot loader.
No, you can't root without unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom recovery to flash it with.
What are you trying to do post root? There might be a non-root alternative, to accomplish what you want to do in the end.
Darnell is correct. No, there is not.
And even if it was possible, nobody would pursue the research necessary to discover that method, since it is so easy to unlock the bootloader (which opens up a path to root, and so much more)
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Once moto release boot img. Unlocking and locking won't be an issue.
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ok thanks guys for the replies
I have searched everywhere for a way to get root without unlocking the bootloader. I want to enable double tap to wake on my wife's 6P, but I don't want to wipe her data during the bootloader unlock process. Thanks everyone for any help.
cagmuer said:
I have searched everywhere for a way to get root without unlocking the bootloader. I want to enable double tap to wake on my wife's 6P, but I don't want to wipe her data during the bootloader unlock process. Thanks everyone for any help.
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No.
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If you don't unlock the bootloader, you can't flash a custom recovery. If you can't flash a custom recovery, you can't install a custom rom or possibly the su binary. Unlocking essentially bypasses the verify process on boot; it verifies the rom, recovery, etc. is the signed official version. I've understood some tools may be able to allow root on an locked bootloader, but I'm not sure for the 6P.
Unless you care about Pay, just backup the phone and unlock it.
was hoping a dev could figure this out. i just want root for root apps and flashfire to flash things. kind of sucks having a nexus that requires an unlocked bootloader for root but i been on stock rom with locked bootloader after going two weeks with custom roms and no android pay. still hoping it will happen eventually.
rob219 said:
was hoping a dev could figure this out. i just want root for root apps and flashfire to flash things. kind of sucks having a nexus that requires an unlocked bootloader for root but i been on stock rom with locked bootloader after going two weeks with custom roms and no android pay. still hoping it will happen eventually.
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People have had success using Android Pay on a rooted 6P. I think people use magisk and Phil's SU and they are able to hide root from Android Pay and other apps. You should do a search through the forums. A lot of people talk about doing it successfully.
Recently bought a replaced for my wife's dead s3 with a supposedly new unused non-dev s5. Arrived in perfect physical condition and CID starts with 15 but recovery screen revealed it has been OTA updated to 6.0.1 PF4. Can the bootloader be unlocked or downgraded then unlocked ?
rostar17 said:
Recently bought a replaced for my wife's dead s3 with a supposedly new unused non-dev s5. Arrived in perfect physical condition and CID starts with 15 but recovery screen revealed it has been OTA updated to 6.0.1 PF4. Can the bootloader be unlocked or downgraded then unlocked ?
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Yes! You can unlock the bootloader. Not problem with your bootloader version. Try this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve.../testers-required-easier-root-method-t3561529
enmanuel255 said:
Yes! You can unlock the bootloader. Not problem with your bootloader version. Try this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve.../testers-required-easier-root-method-t3561529
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I saw that but isn't that just loading roms through safestrap? The bootloader itself remains locked then correct? Also won't safestrap will eat up what little storage she has on a 16g phone (couldn't find 32g).
Thanks
rostar17 said:
I saw that but isn't that just loading roms through safestrap? The bootloader itself remains locked then correct? Also won't safestrap will eat up what little storage she has on a 16g phone (couldn't find 32g).
Thanks
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People unlock bootloaders for to boot non-native kernels, not to load/flash ROMs.
Safestrap "eats" very little space, 20 MB on /data or so. EMMC partitioning remains the same and you don't really see what's free there on /system.
It's used for unlocking process and there's no need to keep it further in the system.
bbsc said:
People unlock bootloaders for to boot non-native kernels, not to load/flash ROMs.
Safestrap "eats" very little space, 20 MB on /data or so. EMMC partitioning remains the same and you don't really see what's free there on /system.
It's used for unlocking process and there's no need to keep it further in the system.
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Thanks for clarifying. I have used safestrap before on others phones as a work around for locked bootloader phones. There I was using the ROM slots so of course consuming memory. Does using this method restrict what you can load for kernels and ROMs vs bootloader unlocking in kitkat versions?
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Thanks for clarifying. I have used safestrap before on others phones as a work around for locked bootloader phones. There I was using the ROM slots so of course consuming memory. Does using this method restrict what you can load for kernels and ROMs vs bootloader unlocking in kitkat versions?
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ROM slots do not work for SM-G900V.
Everything is simple:
- If your phone has CID15 (check with EMMC Brickbug Check from the Market) then you can unlock it's bootloader and use non-native kernels (say, LOS kernel, TWRP, custom kernels and ROMs that require custom non-Verizon kernels).
- If your phone has CID11 then you cannot unlock the bootloader and you're restricted to native Verizon-Samsung kernels for any Android version. This means no root on 6.0.1 also because you need a modified kernel for to have root on 6.0.1 and above.
That method restricts nothing itself. It's only a modern method of installing a custom ROM and unlocking the bootloader, if possible.
The files like bla-bla-bla-Bootloader_Unlock_AIO.zip usually contain a tool for bootloader unlocking. It's convenient to apply them from Safestrap Recovery.
It's also convenient to flash custom ROMs from Safestrap Recovery.
Safestrup Recovery itself needs root to be installed.
Root itself may be easily gained on Combination 4.4 ROM for any CID.
bbsc said:
ROM slots do not work for SM-G900V.
Everything is simple:
- If your phone has CID15 (check with EMMC Brickbug Check from the Market) then you can unlock it's bootloader and use non-native kernels (say, LOS kernel, TWRP, custom kernels and ROMs that require custom non-Verizon kernels).
- If your phone has CID11 then you cannot unlock the bootloader and you're restricted to native Verizon-Samsung kernels for any Android version. This means no root on 6.0.1 also because you need a modified kernel for to have root on 6.0.1 and above.
That method restricts nothing itself. It's only a modern method of installing a custom ROM and unlocking the bootloader, if possible.
The files like bla-bla-bla-Bootloader_Unlock_AIO.zip usually contain a tool for bootloader unlocking. It's convenient to apply them from Safestrap Recovery.
It's also convenient to flash custom ROMs from Safestrap Recovery.
Safestrup Recovery itself needs root to be installed.
Root itself may be easily gained on Combination 4.4 ROM for any CID.
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Thanks again for the help. At present there are several posts about unlocking bootloaders and rooting but they are not all up to date and trying to decypher what applies to later verizon (PF4) OTA MM firmware was confusing. I guess I will keep the phone since I can unlock bootloader and load what I want with root. Looking for the unicorn phone (factory new untouched) is elusive to say the least.
So I've been looking into this, it seems it's possible to use flashify which allows you to flash .img files if your bootloader is locked and you have root you can flash twrp this way. Flashify can also make backup of stock recovery and install it, the reason i'm interested in this is security, as unlocked bootloaders have lots of risks.
Another post i was reading a person suggested, different manufacturers have different ways they implement locked bootloaders so some phones recovery might be protected and can't flash twrp while locked others may differ, I'm not sure. I currently have a Samsung S7 Edge Exynos, some people suggested issues around possible hard bricks, suggesting it's more likely to happen with a locked bootloader, then others saying fastboot wouldn't be able to recovery the device if installing a rom failed.
Someone pointed this out about my OEM unlock not been able to enable it to recover, tho odin doesn't require that to be turned on to flash back the stock firmware from download mode so that should fix that. I want to know the risks involved if flashify flashing twrp, kernels and roms while bootloader is locked is likely to work fine, i have seen posts of people who have done it most the comments seem like they could be assumptions best guesses around this type of thing. I can't find much on it.
What i'm thinking is find an exploit to get root, while locked flash twrp with flashify use twrp to flash xposed maybe? then restore stock recovery after flashing all the things i need, so if i loose the phone bootloader is locked and they don't have clear access to twrp, i think magisk is impossible as that modifys the boot which is the locked bootloader i believe so don't know which things magisk or others will or won't work.
I don't believe it's possible to unlock bootloader and install twrp flash everything i need restore stock recovery and relock the bootloader? pretty sure most phones delete all data during both lock, and unlock even so if it didn't delete everything dm-verity would likely prevent any of this working due to it been tied to the locked bootloader.
Appreciate all reply's.
Thanks.