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Hey people,hows it going?
I have decided to create this thread to help people who arent very happy with their battery life pre/after the 2.1 update.
Aighty guys lets see : The improvements in 2.1 are VERY awesome if you combine it with things to make it total ownage.
Battery Life : Mine lasts 12h with very heavy usage, without usage it can last more than 48h...
Updated since sunday night so i got more than enough experience with it.
If you got bad battery life you can do followings :
1)Root + SetCPU : Lower the "Minimum" quantity so the CPU would idle very lowly and so you get more battery life ,i reccomend getting 245 there (This phase can be dangerous,if you dont know what you're doing ,skip this one)
2)Use Task Manager Pro : Shut down apps that eat the RAM, those who say "unused ram is wasted" , imo thats false as if you got more ram free : More battery life,better phone usage,less lags,and more space in case updates of twitter/fb etc come on ,i usually got around 105mb free always left (Excluded updates for social's & news & weather,live wall,android apps and stuff that i really need)
3)Still not fixed? Get a Battery-life-saver launcher and replace the Home one,as SE didnt work 2.1's home to good so its laggy and battery-eater.
4)Widgets?Have you got loads of news/updates widgets or apps? Try to lower the "Update rate", facebook updates as default each 5 mins,set it to around 2h or so,you dont need less than that.
5)Still pittyful? Check how much you use it, if i use my phone alot i get maybe less than 12h of battery life, but if you use it just the necesary trust me,you can get up to 3 days straight.
Battery life also depends on how much you use it.
5.1)Games specially can use loads of battery,so if you get a use of about 25% in 1 hour,thats very good battery life,so its normal.
5.2)Temperatures in battery can also go upper as you use it ,cause apps and your hand behind the phone cause heat,so you're alright if temp go up to 45ºC,which would be the safe limits. I would panic if it went up to 50ºC.
6)If you have just updated to 2.1 leave it a few days,it is quite bad at first as the system needs to update all its settings ,all its new stuff,just like when you install a new OS on a computer,it needs to "Start windows for the first time".
7)If its still very bad,then your battery might be damaged,get a new one and remember that the first 2-3 charges to take at least 8h,to make sure its lifespan is gonna be high.
In conclusion : Dont just say "My battery life sucks now", Battery depends on how much you use the phone,on how much your apps/timescape/mediascape/Social feeds/News feeds use your phone as much as gps/wifi/bluetooth of it.
Check everything you can,do everything i said and then see if ur battery is damaged or not,cause the 2.1 system didnt do worse,it actually did better than 1.6 after its perfectly settled.
Hope this helps out,take care ^
Regards
very good writeup, which launcher do you recommend?
in regards to this i believe you but it's just not happening to me
please suggest something.
my battery is awesome on standby....but as soon as i turn screen on and play for eg angry birds for 1hr it drops approx 25%. is that how it should be?
no wifi bluetooth gps etc. live wallpaper is there but i also try w/o live wallpaper. i use task killer and kill off unnecessary things
the only thing i haven't done is root and reduce cpu speed because the phone should work quite well w/o me having to do that.
My temp goes up to 43 at times. is that normal?
what am i doing wrong?
thran8 said:
very good writeup, which launcher do you recommend?
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So far , LauncherPro did a very good job for me,there are loads of stuff you can tweak there like even from 3 to 7 homescreens, as you wish,the less the more battery so,depends on which you wish,you can select.
Also Helix Launcher is very famous for beeing able to save battery alot, tho it hasnt got so many options like LauncherPro.
If its very good battery life your searching : Helix Launcher
If you're looking for a good balanced launcher : LauncherPro
Goodluck.
law910 said:
in regards to this i believe you but it's just not happening to me
please suggest something.
my battery is awesome on standby....but as soon as i turn screen on and play for eg angry birds for 1hr it drops approx 25%. is that how it should be?
no wifi bluetooth gps etc. live wallpaper is there but i also try w/o live wallpaper. i use task killer and kill off unnecessary things
the only thing i haven't done is root and reduce cpu speed because the phone should work quite well w/o me having to do that.
what am i doing wrong?
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25% in a hour after playing? Yes that is normal as games stress the CPU and screen brightness to max, so yes after gaming the battery does suffer a bit.
Nah if you dont want dont reduce cpu min speed.
Imo ,charge the phone completely , then right after charging , play Angry birds for 1h again and check battery. Sometimes the battery discharges faster than other times (Depends on the charge of it, if its @ 95% it will go down alot faster,unlike if its at 30%,it will go down slower. Its just a battery theory that is accurate most of the time)
So check from what % you started playing to what % you've stopped playing.
Tell me the results then.
And then i repeat,make sure you reduce facebook/twitter/email "update rate".
(More time(once in 2h not in each 5 mins) = Better cause it will access the internet less so more battery)
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2)Use Task Manager Pro : Shut down apps that eat the RAM, those who say "unused ram is wasted" , imo thats false as if you got more ram free : More battery life,better phone usage,less lags,and more space in case updates of twitter/fb etc come on ,i usually got around 105mb free always left (Excluded updates for social's & news & weather,live wall,android apps and stuff that i really need)
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I used to support it, till I opened my mind to those theories, so now I argued. With many reading and my own experiment, I would still argue that droid are doing best it could.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777034
With my summary, without ATK could result in even better battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205&page=10
Some technical statement about android memory.
HOWEVER,
To correct your statement, it's TRUE that leaving more processes behind could result in significant drain of battery, but this is due to CPU usage, not RAM.
So yes, Leaving some process which draining CPU power behind could give much worse battery life.
So IMO, it more depends on your background process, but I would say that in most situation, just leave the droid do its job
7)If its still very bad,then your battery might be damaged,get a new one and remember that the first 2-3 charges to take at least 8h,to make sure its lifespan is gonna be high.
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You don't need that any longer. But it's true that the lifespan could be 'higher' after a few usage, but this is due to 'calibration', not the performance of the battery itself.
Imagine
real battery is 10%, android report 3%
real battery is 90%, android report 100%
so you are using only 10% to 90%, that considered 20% lose.
Li-po batteries ain't meant to be drain to the last, if you do thy won't last and you soon be needing to replace your battery, I would think that it is programmed to monitor the usage to not do that but the battery % that you see is not actually whats left on the battery itself.
I was reading a pdf ebook and the battery dropped around 35% in 2 hours :S
I'm running the battery test in the service menu at the moment to see if my battery is faulty.
I don't use a manager - i don't use setCpu and I can easily get 24 hours + since 2.1
I'm just saying .
I stream music from di.fm using wifi 8h/day.
My phone lasts about 4h so, i have to charge it 3 times/day
Now, i want to see tips how to improve this
Herr Noobien said:
I was reading a pdf ebook and the battery dropped around 35% in 2 hours :S
I'm running the battery test in the service menu at the moment to see if my battery is faulty.
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good idea never knew battery test existed in the service menu =]
shall try it tonight
just have a look on the attached photo , i took the photo when the indicator was 15% , still i can ran the phone for another 2 or 3 hours .
I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that the display chews through more battery than before.
Could be that I'm playing games too much but I don't think so. I seem to get the same battery life on idle, but as soon as I do anything (esp. games or talking) the battery just seems to nosedive. Never noticed this before (I used to get two-three days depending on the usage now I'm down to a day or two).
I'm gonna try and do some tests over the next while (starting with flashing back to 1.6 and retesting that properly).
tipically, display (screen) accounts for 2/3s of the total battery usage
check the battery usage app (settings -> battery), you'll be amazed
then make a simple test:
reduce brightness by half and your battery will last A LOT longer
Personaly, I prefer to carry my charger than dimming the screen
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gtrab said:
tipically, display (screen) accounts for 2/3s of the total battery usage
check the battery usage app (settings -> battery), you'll be amazed
then make a simple test:
reduce brightness by half and your battery will last A LOT longer
Personaly, I prefer to carry my charger than dimming the screen
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Back,soz my internet crashed -_-
And true,the Screen uses 2/3 or even more, everytime i check it sucks around 75% or so if you use it alot.
Also @Cebees Yes thats true,thats why i sugested a task manager Cutting processes cleans ram memory but also cleans cpu usage.
True you can let the droid do its things but most of the time its not Droid who is eating the battery to death,its 3rd party apps which remain On even after usage (Like when you select a live wall and then change it,the other remains on and some walls arent very good optimized so ...if 1 Live-wall eats a bit of battery,imagine 3 or 4 ?)
Also : Gaming / GPS navigation And Wifi Navigating are the main and most power hungry tasks for a phone to do,so its normal that if you're doing any of those,the battery lasts like nothing.
One Tip : Always take ur charger with you Also take the MicroUSB->USB cable off your charger and use it while your in your car (Buy a Cigarette->USB adaptor,costs less than 10 quid) and then you can charge it while you're in your/your dad's car, that way you'll maintain the battery a bit more alive.
Also if you really think your battery just isnt up for your needs, there is a 3600mAh (Think its Called Mugen 3600 or smth)battery out there for the X10,it is kinda bulky but it doubles and some times even more the life of the normal 1500mAh Stock battery.
Btw,if you want to buy a new battery and a 3600mAh one is too expensive,try to get a 2000+ one...as there was tested that up to 1800mAh arent exactly Shiny,just a very slight (Minutes)improvement over the stock 1500mAh one.
As you can see,there's loads of things that can cause a battery life to be poor
So keep on trying ^^ Im sure it will all go great.
I charged mine yesterday at morning,and i still got 67% Today,so i believe i can manage a total of 3 days straight ...and i did eventually use my phone to listen to music,put some live walls and make some calls.
Also trust me...the Launcher does make a diference,specially if you get the Helix one...i used it and my battery used to manage up to almost 5 days straight (With little use).
Oh and @Cebees : I know that the 8hour thing isnt exactly necesary today , but eventhought they say its not ,i believe i've been told by someone who knows about this that its good for the battery to be totally maxed in the first charges and then left to total emptyness(if possible until phone shuts down or is about to) that way it does calibrate (As you said before) and it does also maximise its life (Technically,i could be wrong , but my always done that with my wife's and daughter's phone and they always worked like a charm and trust me ,my daughter cant get her hands off her phone -_-)
Regards
xtrmshadow said:
Hey people,hows it going?
I have decided to create this thread to help people who arent very happy with their battery life pre/after the 2.1 update.
Aighty guys lets see : The improvements in 2.1 are VERY awesome if you combine it with things to make it total ownage.
Battery Life : Mine lasts 24h with very heavy usage, without usage it can last more than 48h...
Updated since sunday night so i got more than enough experience with it.
If you got bad battery life you can do followings :
1)Root + SetCPU : Lower the "Minimum" quantity so the CPU would idle very lowly and so you get more battery life ,i reccomend getting 245 there.
2)Use Task Manager Pro : Shut down apps that eat the RAM, those who say "unused ram is wasted" , imo thats false as if you got more ram free : More battery life,better phone usage,less lags,and more space in case updates of twitter/fb etc come on ,i usually got around 105mb free always left (Excluded updates for social's & news & weather,live wall,android apps and stuff that i really need)
3)Still not fixed? Get a Battery-life-saver launcher and replace the Home one,as SE didnt work 2.1's home to good so its laggy and battery-eater.
4)Widgets?Have you got loads of news/updates widgets or apps? Try to lower the "Update rate", facebook updates as default each 5 mins,set it to around 2h or so,you dont need less than that.
5)Still pittyful? Check how much you use it, if i use my phone alot i get maybe less than 12h of battery life, but if you use it just the necesary trust me,you can get up to 3 days straight.
Battery life also depends on how much you use it.
6)If you have just updated to 2.1 leave it a few days,it is quite bad at first as the system needs to update all its settings ,all its new stuff,just like when you install a new OS on a computer,it needs to "Start windows for the first time".
7)If its still very bad,then your battery might be damaged,get a new one and remember that the first 2-3 charges to take at least 8h,to make sure its lifespan is gonna be high.
In conclusion : Dont just say "My battery life sucks now", Battery depends on how much you use the phone,on how much your apps/timescape/mediascape/Social feeds/News feeds use your phone as much as gps/wifi/bluetooth of it.
Check everything you can,do everything i said and then see if ur battery is damaged or not,cause the 2.1 system didnt do worse,it actually did better than 1.6 after its perfectly settled.
Hope this helps out,take care ^
Regards
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Something bothers me here. During your intro, you say with "very heavy" usage, you get 24 hours battery. Then. In step 5, you say that if you use your phone alot, you get maybe less than 12 hours usage. I dont get it. :-S
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lawless_benji said:
Something bothers me here. During your intro, you say with "very heavy" usage, you get 24 hours battery. Then. In step 5, you say that if you use your phone alot, you get maybe less than 12 hours usage. I dont get it. :-S
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lol ups,yeah the 24h thing is a mistake,ima correct that.
Thanks ^
xtrmshadow said:
lol ups,yeah the 24h thing is a mistake,ima correct that.
Thanks ^
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Cool! No problem!
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My battery life got worse on 2.1.
On 1.6 I would unplug my phone at 6:20 am and listen to music for an hour then I would mess with my phone a little bit between 7:20 and 2:15. Then after that I would listen to music for another hour while surfing facebook. By time I get home at 3:20 I'm down to 60 percent. But if I do that on 2.1 by time I get home I'll be at 30 percent. Also I have juice defender ultimate that shuts off my 3g everytime the screen is off.
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http://www.appbrain.com/app/autokiller-memory-optimizer/com.rs.autokiller
I'd prefer this one rather than auto task killer
a bit friendly for droid, except chuck norris one.
Hi guys i know there are lots of similar posts about battery life etc but cant find the answer im looking for after a search of this forum as all answers seem to be on rooted devices, she does not want her x8 rooted and im really getting it in the neck for upgrading her in the first place lol.
My girlfriend recently got the 2.1-update 1 via pc companion and thats when the battery problems started. The battery drain problem has actually been getting progressively worse since this. This morning (after yet another full night charging 100%) after 30 mins of getting up today the battery was down to 83 %. I have already uninstalled maps updates, not that she ever used it anyway.
So my question is : is there a solution to this without rooting and/or having a custom ROM? becuase she making my life a misery lol.
Thanks in advance guys and sorry for the similar post
swifteh said:
Hi guys i know there are lots of similar posts about battery life etc but cant find the answer im looking for after a search of this forum as all answers seem to be on rooted devices, she does not want her x8 rooted and im really getting it in the neck for upgrading her in the first place lol.
My girlfriend recently got the 2.1-update 1 via pc companion and thats when the battery problems started. The battery drain problem has actually been getting progressively worse since this. This morning (after yet another full night charging 100%) after 30 mins of getting up today the battery was down to 83 %. I have already uninstalled maps updates, not that she ever used it anyway.
So my question is : is there a solution to this without rooting and/or having a custom ROM? becuase she making my life a misery lol.
Thanks in advance guys and sorry for the similar post
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Well, 1st thing as Dx said. reboot after using wifi, 3g, music. reboot to make everything fresh.. but there's no other way to save battery without rooting I think. because I helped my gf installed a custom ROM for her and she said that the battery life changed, and it's way different than a original ROM. How come she doesn't wanna go custom? Sorry for my bad english.
Right tweaks only applies in rooted phone
deedii said:
Right tweaks only applies in rooted phone
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Agree with you!
Nah, rooting makes the difference. IMO Froyo ROMs have good battery life.
Well i think she might well have to go custom because the battery life is a joke now, nearly rendering her device unusable, think she just frightened cos i did her pc companion update and kinda blames me for the crap battery now, il have a read around the x8 forum on how to root.
Thanks everyone, apreciate it
Just try to keep off all things you don't need: Wifi, Bluetooth, Synchronization, 3G. also unninstall apps you don't need and do not use app killers to save RAM.
I think that is all you can do without rooting.
patriciocs said:
Just try to keep off all things you don't need: Wifi, Bluetooth, Synchronization, 3G. also unninstall apps you don't need and do not use app killers to save RAM.
I think that is all you can do without rooting.
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My friend, less RAM is actually a good thing. I've read through the web. just don't auto kill ALL the apps, kill those apps that when it doesn't look right or freezes. The more RAM you freed, the more battery it will drain. Serious.
swifteh said:
Well i think she might well have to go custom because the battery life is a joke now, nearly rendering her device unusable, think she just frightened cos i did her pc companion update and kinda blames me for the crap battery now, il have a read around the x8 forum on how to root.
Thanks everyone, apreciate it
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Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139163
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153768
Read this for the task killer.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/02/revisiting-android-task-killers-and-why-you-dont-need-one/
For rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046605
and custom ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=849
Hope this helps!
I'm just a noob trying to help.
use a task killer and disable all what you don't need like bluetooth, data traffic, gps and wifi. yes i know my english is bad^^
disable wifi, gps, bluetooth and data traffic. stock 2.1update rom should get you about 3 days with those disabled. any apps that need them will ask you to switch them on again anyway. It's a little annoying to get used to at first especially when you're used to a fone that lasts a week without charge so I can understand how she feels especially if she only wants to text and do a few calls.
If you don't use wifi, 3g gps and rest of the s**t you should probbably buy a dumy phone.
With some "normal" usage you can be happy if it lasts for a day/day and a half.
2-3 is really success.
You do get a charger in the box with the phone you know?
Use your phone, stop wasting time on battery monitoring.
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You do get a charger in the box with the phone you know?
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yeah but the idea is it's a MOBILE fone.. You dont want it plugged into the damn socket all the time!
If you need to use the GPS, WIFI etc. the app will ask you to switch it on so wheres the harm in turning it all off until it's required if it saves having to plug the thing in every day?!?
Nobody stated you should keep all the functions on.
But it should be understandable that, with some "normal" use, and by normal I mean regular texting, phonecalls, check facebook/twitter, refresh weather app, read mail and some news maybe you can't expect your battery to last 7 days like on dummy nokia.
Besides, you all forget that your biggest battery killer is the screen.
And another thing I noticed; when LED starts to glow green, your battery isn't fully charged. Check phone status. It becomes green after passing 90% I think, or so.
And the second thing I noticed is a HUGE differenc when charging the phone while it's on, for a hour and a half when the battery metter reaches 100% and when I turn it off and leave it charging over night.
The "night" option proved to be a lot better (battery lasts longer, doesn't fall so fast) + Every once in a while it is good to fully discharge the battery and then fully charge it.
terracuk said:
yeah but the idea is it's a MOBILE fone..
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Yeah, but that mobile phones have long since ceased to be just phones.
Switch off everything you can : wifi, brighteness, gps etc. Also you can make a profile "screen off " in setcpu and set it to 122mhz . it will save you a lot of battery! It drains just 1% after 5 hours ( but i didnt use my phone) . Hope it help.
Oh yeah and use the app called " fast reboot " it is so good is well and it speed up our lovely x8
When i used these things , my phone lasts in a week or more of.course i nearly didnt use my phone.
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Seeing as I don't have enough posts to post over in the development forum, I thought I'd hijack this thread.
I installed this rom last week and at first, the batter was brilliant. It lasted for three days but now I have to charge it twice a day. I have bluetooth off, wifi off more often than not, brightness down very low.
The phone was 5hrs on battery and was down to 44%.
Cell Standby: 35%
Display: 20%
Phone Idle: 19%
Launcher Pro: 13%
Anyone have any ideas?
I also experienced the same problem ... especially with the overclocked conditions
I bought a SG2 some time ago and loved it except for the idle battery drain. For the life of me, I couldn't seem to get it to stop chewing battery when it wasn't being used. I even tested it by charging it to full and leaving it overnight. It lost about 20%.
Remembering that the iPhone 4 had excellent idle battery life, I decided to give it another go just for the hell of it. I hate iOS as a daily driver, but I figured at least I wouldn't have to worry about battery life.
These are my observations:
1) Idle time on iPhone 4 is indeed better. When it's not being used, it uses no battery. However, when being used heavily, the SG2 actually seems to get BETTER battery life than iPhone 4 when it is being used heavily. Not sure why.
2) I severely miss being able to send/upload high quality videos and pictures. I hate the restrictions that Apple places on file size. I don't always have wifi readily available and at least with Android, you can upload large videos to Youtube over the cell connection.
3) I miss the integration in the photo album with social services. It's annoying having to launch an app every time I want to upload a picture/video.
4) The camera on the SG2 is definitely better. You get more fine detail on objects that are further away, no doubt due to the higher megapixel count.
5) I think most apps on iOS look better and are more functional, but the problem is, you have to launch an app to do anything in iOS.
I really wish Samsung (and maybe Google in general) could solve the idle battery drain. Losing 20% over 8 hours without even using the phone seems rather high when you factor in that you'll be losing that battery life whether you use the phone or not. Theoretically, this should mean that the iPhone would get better battery life with the same use, but I'm not finding that to be the case so far. I will probably be going back to my SG2 very soon.
Sorry for the long-winded post. Just wanted to collect my thoughts and present my personal findings.
U r right about battery consumption .
But i m sure Android is going to be so much improved and vast in features that we cant compare to any os in the world in future.
Biggest plus of Android is community like this and the freedom to change things inside it.
agree on most of the things u said there
but
when it comes to battery life i have no idea why its soo random with some people
i lose about 1% an hour on KE2
(stock was on the phone when i bought it no root )
but since i installed KF3
i lose about 2% an hour
rooted flashed from odin
I must have responded to 10+ questions on this forum in the last 24 hours as regards battery drain, i get 25+ hours on my GS2, if you search on here you will find many tips that will substantially increase your battery life.
check the new kernel ninephetamine. Have used the modified 1.4v (with deep sleep enabled).....promising results with undervolting.
Currently OC 1400, and undervolted.
Simple Answer
Iphone does not loose batter on idle cause it puts all apps to sleep state if not used for a while
Android phones in general are always using data for like your emails, facebook, etc if you have set the apps to connect say every hour or so
IF you leave WIFI on it takes up battery as well
I am quiet happy with my SGS2 ( 12 -15 hours ) heavy usage and I am used to daily charging. and its just the day time hours unlike people who may be posting their night time hours as well which add anything form 8-16 more
jonny68 said:
I must have responded to 10+ questions on this forum in the last 24 hours as regards battery drain, i get 25+ hours on my GS2, if you search on here you will find many tips that will substantially increase your battery life.
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I'm not interested in disabling everything that makes Android what it is. If I have to modify it to the point that it's an iPhone, I might as well use an iPhone. I'm well aware of battery saving tips for Android. They almost always involve shutting down all automated services and anything that retrieves data. This is not a solution. I have some e-mail accounts on periodic pull and the most important ones on push. On the iPhone, I have all e-mail accounts on Push.
I also don't particularly want to use a custom ROM. I prefer to stay stock.
I'm not getting horrible battery life on my SG2. In fact, I get around 15 hours with the same kind of use as that on the iPhone 4. I would just like to be able to set the phone down for several hours and not lose a quarter of the battery.
i have tried every single battery optimisation and calibration tricks on my Android phones. My first Android phone was a htc hero, second SE X10 and Now Galaxy S2.
All the optimisation and stuff works if you sacrifice something on your phone. i like my display to be sharp and easy to see. I want my email notification to be prompt and so many other things.
I used to be Windows mobile user my last handset was Toshiba TG01. i never ever had any battery issue.
It is to do with Android system, it needs to improve. it has all the pace now and so many chances.
if this roumor is true then IOS will shrink sooner than 2015:
http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/iPhone+5+delayed+until+2012?/5990
Why my Lamborghini needs more fuel than my Fiat Panda? I can't understand. Crappy Lamborghini, back on Panda.
Well if riding the Panda can get me through the jungle instead of half of it, why not?
Also, the Panda can get me more food via the App Store.
Granted though the Lamborghini has alot more fancy features and doesnt have mindless sheep following it
Anyway, coming from an SGS1, then an iPhone4, I heartily agree with the OP. Android is awesome but it's still rough around the edges. Sometimes the ease and boring simplicity of IOS is something that I miss, along with the Apps and definitely the games which Android is sorely lacking.
But then again I'd be reminded of steve and his itunes bloatware. ugh
Yes, but when Lamborghini is parked it should use the same as the Panda! (I.e. zero.)
Google really should minimise the stuff going on when the phone is idle. Google also needs to do something about all these rouge apps that always start up services that always run in the background. They should provide some way of limiting/stopping the CPU usage of apps running in the background.
Even the official XDA forum app still servers up adverts in the background eating up your battery (and bandwidth) if you press home instead of backup to exit.
wifi sharing is a bit of a bug that drains battery like crazy. If your not rooted thats definitely the screen off battery drain for sure. If there was a reason to root, just root to freeze that one rogue app.
codeworkx said:
Why my Lamborghini needs more fuel than my Fiat Panda? I can't understand. Crappy Lamborghini, back on Panda.
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LOL I like ur metaphor.. but at least give something better than Panda hahaha
Nope, the wifi sharing bug has now been fixed by Samsung in the stock KF3 release available via Kies.
greyhulk said:
I'm not interested in disabling everything that makes Android what it is. If I have to modify it to the point that it's an iPhone, I might as well use an iPhone. I'm well aware of battery saving tips for Android. They almost always involve shutting down all automated services and anything that retrieves data. This is not a solution. I have some e-mail accounts on periodic pull and the most important ones on push. On the iPhone, I have all e-mail accounts on Push.
I also don't particularly want to use a custom ROM. I prefer to stay stock.
I'm not getting horrible battery life on my SG2. In fact, I get around 15 hours with the same kind of use as that on the iPhone 4. I would just like to be able to set the phone down for several hours and not lose a quarter of the battery.
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But most of the stuff is pretty useless anyway all this Samsung bloatware is guaranteed to drain your battery, i don't see it as sacrifcying anything, ive got email on push and i still get over 25+ hours battery,i used an iPhone 4 for a few weeks and id be lucky to get 16 hours with medium to heavy usage.
My data is always enabled too, you can save a lot of battery if you use apps like Juice defender plus and system panel will also tell you which apps,etc are using up more than others.
At the end of the day smartphones are always going to use up much more battery than normal phones and this isn't going to change anytime soon until such time a revoultionary new battery is designed that lasts for days on end.
Until then people have to deal with it,follow the tips and you'll get good battery life, if you want absolutely everything "on at the same time" your simply not going to get it, not on the iPhone 4 or any phone.
blunted09 said:
wifi sharing is a bit of a bug that drains battery like crazy. If your not rooted thats definitely the screen off battery drain for sure. If there was a reason to root, just root to freeze that one rogue app.
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indeed this is very true.
LouisJB said:
Yes, but when Lamborghini is parked it should use the same as the Panda! (I.e. zero.)
Google really should minimise the stuff going on when the phone is idle. Google also needs to do something about all these rouge apps that always start up services that always run in the background. They should provide some way of limiting/stopping the CPU usage of apps running in the background.
Even the official XDA forum app still servers up adverts in the background eating up your battery (and bandwidth) if you press home instead of backup to exit.
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It's not parked.
Your Engine is still running on idling mixture.
That's a difference. ;-)
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Nope, the wifi sharing bug has now been fixed by Samsung in the stock KF3 release available via Kies.
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Has not been properly addressed. Thats why its not even included in 90% of the custom roms.
Dear All,
Its been quiet some time trying to do enough experiments with custom ROM, battery life apk and all that can tweak CPU....seems a solution is getting into place. My device started giving a decent battery life, of 3% drop for an idle usage time of 8 hrs. Things done as below:
1. Root - Yes required
2. Good Custom ROM - using currently Ultimate ROM - thanks to the developer, its a great ROM
3. Install Greenify - this is one apk you will love unlike other task killing apk, hibernation is better
4. Install CPU Spy - Come with default with this ROM
5. Juice defender - just to ensure be sure all things are controlled.
Thats it, your device is ready to rock. I charged to 75% battery before sleeping, disabled of course Wifi and other data and removed all unnecessary task killers, battery managers etc. Gave a 3% dip in battery after 8 hrs. Post that a charge of again to 75% with a normal usage of calls( around 10 calls average talk time of 2 minutes), Wifi for reading mails and still the battery 15% after using for 5 hrs !!!. Earlier this used to tank in 3 hrs, so i believe a decent battery time.
Hope it helps readers to address battery issue.
Mine gives 1 percent drop full night maybe 8 hrs without any mods.
Maybe I know which rom and kernel. Thanks.
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I use LSF and I get 1% drop overnight. No mods whatsoever.
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thats grt bro
bongski55 said:
I use LSF and I get 1% drop overnight. No mods whatsoever.
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u mean to say lsf have better batter backup then LSZ
What's a difference if I will use 1% or 3% over night if in 1h of web browsing or gaming will loose 30%?
For heavy users benefits are negligible. Few mA on undervolting few on lowering brightness and black theme but still the screen is the hugest drain and rest is nothing if you do not have wake-locks. Most of the time my screen uses 60-70% with all connectivity enabled and no juice saving apps and no matter how many tweaks applied, we have to live with screen consuming a lot of juice even on minimum brightness. Liked a lot juice defender on hd2, now on note not much difference.
Galaxy Note GT N 7000
nigi73 said:
What's a difference if I will use 1% or 3% over night if in 1h of web browsing or gaming will loose 30%?
For heavy users benefits are negligible. Few mA on undervolting few on lowering brightness and black theme but still the screen is the hugest drain and rest is nothing if you do not have wake-locks. Most of the time my screen uses 60-70% with all connectivity enabled and no juice saving apps and no matter how many tweaks applied, we have to live with screen consuming a lot of juice even on minimum brightness. Liked a lot juice defender on hd2, now on note not much difference.
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Thanks all for your feedback. Yes its true in any case we will have less than 3% drop if left idle, but i tried to check battery usage, "Screen usage" is high if used for a full time, earlier it was "Android" using more. Anyways thanks all for you information. AS Nigi mentioned we just have to live with it - No matter what we do, if for a day it works with 15% battery remaining it would be just sufficient.
Any lo!!!! Hear S4 is on the move - With octacore and DDR3 RAM. May be its going to be a gamechanger in saving battery !!!!
Samsung - GT N7000
satven21 said:
Thanks all for your feedback. Yes its true in any case we will have less than 3% drop if left idle, but i tried to check battery usage, "Screen usage" is high if used for a full time, earlier it was "Android" using more. Anyways thanks all for you information. AS Nigi mentioned we just have to live with it - No matter what we do, if for a day it works with 15% battery remaining it would be just sufficient.
Any lo!!!! Hear S4 is on the move - With octacore and DDR3 RAM. May be its going to be a gamechanger in saving battery !!!!
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Hi Dsmas...please find the details....
Android version - 4.1.2
Baseband N7000XXLSO
Kernel Version - 3.0.31-906407
Build No: Jelly Bean 4.1.2 v5.2
Rom Version: Ultimate XXLSZ ROM (iGeekHD.com)
Thanks.
I have the 4.1.2 rom Netherlands with root and installed Greenify, this alone was enough for me and I must admit I'm impressed with the result ... Battery lasting extraordinary.
Thankful.
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I have the 4.1.2 rom Netherlands with root and installed Greenify, this alone was enough for me and I must admit I'm impressed with the result ... Battery lasting extraordinary.
Thankful.
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Yep.This is really excellent app. It will be even better if we can add some system apps (like Gmaps)
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Galaxy Note has a large enough battery to standby for days (Official: 32 days on 3G, 40 days on 2G) without tweakings or modings. On ICS Stock ROM on airplane mode, during the night, a 100% battery remains 100% the morning after. I don't know what else I could have asked for a better battery performance out of my phone.
To get the best performance out of any smartphone one has to layout the expectations first and then become technically educated with the basics "properly" before changing usage habbits.
Laying out the expectations
Choosing a 5.3" device when smaller screen sizes were already available dictates the specific requirements one had. These could be physical (i.e., big hands, bad eyes), usage (i.e., reading and writing for long period of times, playing games, watching videos), or seeking differentiation (i.e., showing off, standing out).
When you know why you purchased Galaxy Note then we can move on to the technical stuff.
Technical - Basics
Bigger screens draw more power, the brighter the screen is the more power it needs. These are scientific facts and Galaxy Note's screen by no means is power efficient.
Web Browsing is the most, if not one of, task intensive job one can execute with his or hers Galaxy Note. Often Original Note scores poorly in web browsing benchmarks and this is not down to the screen size alone. When the CPU has the right sets of instructions corresponding tasks are performed much faster and with more power effiency. In my opinion the Exynos CPU used in Original Note does not support the crucial instructions in regards to the Web Browsing related processes and something is wrong with the internal flash disk components, be it software, hardware or both. Samsung has so far resisted in releasing its Exynos's source codes and I'm suspicious they have something to hide.
On the other hand, Note II offers excellent Web Browsing benchmark results, even better than the newly released Qualcomm 600 CPU. The battery capacity in Note II is not twice as Original Note but battery performance is almost twice as much in many respects. The overclocked Mali-400, 440MHz from 266MHz, in Note II should drain battery more but the CPU which is based on the same ARM architecture (ARMv7, ARM Coretex-A9) provides far better power efficiency. Thanks to the smaller semiconductor in Exynos 4412 (SGIII and Note II) which is 32nm versus SGII and Note's Exynos 4210 which is 45nm. The smaller nm number is the lower power consumption is.
There is no magic wand that can make Original Note more power efficient as it is. So no matter one does there is no way web browsing can be streched by more than 10 to 15 minutes in low screen brightness, period. Four hours is what we all get.
Change of habbits
Now that we understand there is a power capacity that cannot be stretched we however, can change habbits to get the maximum performance out of Note.
I adamantly opposed any software utility as a solution to extend the battery performance. They come at a cost which is not justified. I don't wish to go through the details but a simple daily reboot which is also recommended by the manufacturers will do the job these software claim to do. These apps mainly free memory while consuming battery.
Be sensible in choosing apps, be responsible in managing them. Once you realise the real reason you own a smartphone your choice for apps will be narrowed down anyway. Monitor the impacts of the newly apps on RAM and overall performance of your phone and then decide whether the app stays or goes.
Google Play app is a culprit to many issues. Literally Google Play is connected to various services for different reasons. One of GP's job is to check for app updates. The more apps installed the more battery is consumed to run the checks, download the updates, and finally installing them.
Be smarter than your smartphones.
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zviki said:
Yep.This is really excellent app. It will be even better if we can add some system apps (like Gmaps)
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If you are rooted, uninstall gmaps updates first then remove GMS_Maps.apk from /system/app folder. Reboot and reinstall it from Google Play as downloaded app. Good Luck!
Why are people so excited by a little battery drain during the night while wi-fi and data are shut down?
My matter is not having a long life battery on a phone I don't use and I find the night is the best moment to have my phone plugged and to let all applications updates and massive data exchanges be done.
My matter is to have the best battery life during the day when I'm on the my way and use the phone, browse, take pictures and films, send and read sms and mails, use GPS, read books and magazines, watch movies or listen to music.
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I want both.
wakelocks = most common issue in standby battery life. Almost everyone encounters them and once they know how to analyze that (ahalfords sticky q&a section) that can be minimized
When awake, tons of other stuff n tweaks.
Both should not enhibit daily functioning. The moment I dont have the feeling, oh I need to not use the phone because I will have no juice is or I need to charge it/swap batteries is the moment I dream for. Such pda's dont exist yet. Not without changing ridiculously behaviour/usage and/or charging. Devices arent there yet. Soon they will.
However, its pretty good now with new battery and changing. I have had far worse lol.
WWHK said:
Why are people so excited by a little battery drain during the night while wi-fi and data are shut down?
My matter is not having a long life battery on a phone I don't use and I find the night is the best moment to have my phone plugged and to let all applications updates and massive data exchanges be done.
My matter is to have the best battery life during the day when I'm on the my way and use the phone, browse, take pictures and films, send and read sms and mails, use GPS, read books and magazines, watch movies or listen to music.
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lsz+speedmode+greenify+ds batery+gemini....sleep well my note :good::good::good:
Increased my battery life by at least 40%.... bought a new battery....anker from amazon...
Btw previous batt was 1+ yrs old....
Running jb 4.1.2 lsz
bongski55 said:
I use LSF and I get 1% drop overnight. No mods whatsoever.
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Hi Bongski55....are you having Ultimate Jelly Bean ROM with LSF firmware...if so can you share the link please. I would like to try.
Best way to increase your battery life is just to buy a new battery, get stock JB and decrease screen brightness.
satven21 said:
Dear All,
Its been quiet some time trying to do enough experiments with custom ROM, battery life apk and all that can tweak CPU....seems a solution is getting into place. My device started giving a decent battery life, of 3% drop for an idle usage time of 8 hrs. Things done as below:
1. Root - Yes required
2. Good Custom ROM - using currently Ultimate ROM - thanks to the developer, its a great ROM
3. Install Greenify - this is one apk you will love unlike other task killing apk, hibernation is better
4. Install CPU Spy - Come with default with this ROM
5. Juice defender - just to ensure be sure all things are controlled.
Thats it, your device is ready to rock. I charged to 75% battery before sleeping, disabled of course Wifi and other data and removed all unnecessary task killers, battery managers etc. Gave a 3% dip in battery after 8 hrs. Post that a charge of again to 75% with a normal usage of calls( around 10 calls average talk time of 2 minutes), Wifi for reading mails and still the battery 15% after using for 5 hrs !!!. Earlier this used to tank in 3 hrs, so i believe a decent battery time.
Hope it helps readers to address battery issue.
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Are you using the ultimate jellybean rom? Just for clarification.
But do you find that the ram is getting used up quickly leaving only ~100MB free? If yes, may i ask if you solved it with greenify? I'll be trying it too now but i'll like to see whether u have this prob and how you solved it. Thanks.
Jelly Bean stock rom
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I am using this phone from Last 1 week and one thing I've noticed that battery management is very poor. it keeps decreasing without no usage even when the phone sitting on the table. the phone has 4000Mah of battery but there is battery usage tab in the settings like stock android to track down what is consuming more battery. The battery is not even lasting a full day.
I think its better if someone makes or port a Stock Android-based ROM for Samsung A51 or get the solution for Poor battery management.
majay519 said:
I am using this phone from Last 1 week and one thing I've noticed that battery management is very poor. it keeps decreasing without no usage even when the phone sitting on the table. the phone has 4000Mah of battery but there is battery usage tab in the settings like stock android to track down what is consuming more battery. The battery is not even lasting a full day.
I think its better if someone makes or port a Stock Android-based ROM for Samsung A51 or get the solution for Poor battery management.
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I think you can check battery management in Setting > Device Care > Battery.
I agree with you that the battery is poor. I cant use the phone in 1 day without charging.
Thanks for the update, let me track down the background apps for 24 hours, let see if I can help to minimize the battery drainage. BCS its the first time when I am using a Samsung phone. I usually like to use phones with stock android & never faced this issue before regarding the battery
majay519 said:
Thanks for the update, let me track down the background apps for 24 hours, let see if I can help to minimize the battery drainage. BCS its the first time when I am using a Samsung phone. I usually like to use phones with stock android & never faced this issue before regarding the battery
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Human consumption. My battery lasts 3 days
Well, not sure if you just purchased the phone to keep looking at it and only making and receiving calls?️
majay519 said:
Well, not sure if you just purchased the phone to keep looking at it and only making and receiving calls?️
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Your just on the wrong firmware. You will catch on dont worry. Im sure your smart enough to flash firmwares via odin
jimrfraser said:
Your just on the wrong firmware. You will catch on dont worry. Im sure your smart enough to flash firmwares via odin
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Hello !
You said that u can use u're phone 3 days and that's because of the firmware.. Can you give me more information about that please ?
I got recently this phone but the 4000mah is drained too fast, I optimize a lot of thing and got the minimal app in background or fonction like sync. The proof is that One UI is the app that drain the most of my battery.
Finally i think that is because of the screen..
But do you have an solution with a firmware or root for the autonomy of this phone ?
Sorry for my english and thanks for you're answer !
Ben-cuisse said:
Hello !
You said that u can use u're phone 3 days and that's because of the firmware.. Can you give me more information about that please ?
I got recently this phone but the 4000mah is drained too fast, I optimize a lot of thing and got the minimal app in background or fonction like sync. The proof is that One UI is the app that drain the most of my battery.
Finally i think that is because of the screen..
But do you have an solution with a firmware or root for the autonomy of this phone ?
Sorry for my english and thanks for you're answer !
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i think he is just brother of PInochio )