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I've had my Galaxy Note 4 for a while now and I'm starting to look at a few of the new flagships for 2016. The Google Nexus 6P looks very promising to have and looks like a great device overall. There's also the HTC 10 which will be released soon which also looks promising and will get plenty of development I assume.
Would anyone care to share your story? Should I purchase a Google Nexus 6P or wait for this years line up?
If you want to convince me to stay on the Note 4 I encourage you.
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Dude it's up to you
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I am personally not leaving my Note 4 until it dies, or if the Note 6 brings back all the features I love that the Note5 **** on. I actually upgraded to the Note 5 and after 2 months decided it was not usable for me so I got a Note 4.
I personally can't live without 4 things the Note 4 has the Note 5 doesn't:
removable battery (Every phone I have owned in the past few years has been run with the ZeroLemon extended battery and rugged case)
MicroSD card slot (makes switching ROMs so much easier, I am a flashaholic)
IR Blaster (this one isn't as big as the other 2, but is still sooo nice to have and I see no reason any phone shouldn't have it)
Custom ROMs (The Note 5 being an Exynox only phone has not gotten any custom AOSP based ROMs yet, only stock based ROMs. Now, some of those ROMs are awesome, and even on my Note 4 I only run stock based ROMs because the AOSP ROMs don't work well enough with the SPen, but it is really nice to have the choice)
I would not buy the Nexus 6P, overall it looks like a good phone, but I am not the most gentle person with my phones, haven't broken one in a few years but I tend to drop them quite a bit and the 6P has some serious structural issues. Look up Jerryrigeverything's stress test video of the 6P on youtube. Huge disappointment for a Nexus device, and at that price.
I am confident the Note 6 will be too similar to the S7, no removable battery, possibly no IR blaster, it will probably have a similar style MicroSD card slot, but if it sucks like the S7 does, especially with the same style locked bootloader I will not be upgrading. The Note 4 is still an awesome phone, and we should be getting official MM within the next few weeks.
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I've had my Galaxy Note 4 for a while now and I'm starting to look at a few of the new flagships for 2016. The Google Nexus 6P looks very promising to have and looks like a great device overall. There's also the HTC 10 which will be released soon which also looks promising and will get plenty of development I assume.
Would anyone care to share your story? Should I purchase a Google Nexus 6P or wait for this years line up?
If you want to convince me to stay on the Note 4 I encourage you.
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Wait for the One Plus 3. I'm keeping also my note 4 until it dies. Still a very good and reliable device for me.
Thank you guys for your responses!
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Mr. Clown said:
Wait for the One Plus 3. I'm keeping also my note 4 until it dies. Still a very good and reliable device for me.
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I update phones every year but since I considered the Note 5 a downgrade, I upgraded my Note 4 with another Note 4. I am no longer in the business if updating for the sake of updating. If the Note 6 doesn't bring back the SD card and IR blaster and be rootable [must have Viper4Android], I'll buy another Note 4. Samsung hit the sweet spot with the 4.
I used to update my phone all the time. But ever since Sammy turned its back on our community by locking the bootloaders (yeah yeah I'm sure it's the carriers fault don't care) I'll be sticking with my tmo note 4 running on att network. Note 6 looks cool but I need root and want the option to run custom roms. That and I need superior camera and for me note 4 is it. The new modular HTC phone looks interesting.
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Wait for the One Plus 3. I'm keeping also my note 4 until it dies. Still a very good and reliable device for me.
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Is there really a OP3 in the making? The OP2 seems to have less of what was in the OPO
Just this morning I read an article on ArsTechnica (and as I glance to the right, apparently there's one to check out on the XDA Portal as well) on the next Nexus devices, reportedly to be built by HTC. I'd be pretty interested to see what those have to offer before upgrading my (still solid - the N4 is one device that I plan to keep rather than sell) phone. The 6P looks nice, but I'd be unwilling to sacrifice expandable storage... I'm hopeful that Google will allow(?) an SD slot in these upcoming devices due to N's new storage scheme.
Good luck whatever you decide!
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Is there really a OP3 in the making? The OP2 seems to have less of what was in the OPO
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Yes and it will be a good option tat it will not break the bank like the samsung phones. I'm considering to sell my note 4 and get me this beauty.
http://bgr.com/2016/04/26/oneplus-3-release-date-price/
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Yes and it will be a good option tat it will not break the bank like the samsung phones. I'm considering to sell my note 4 and get me this beauty.
http://bgr.com/2016/04/26/oneplus-3-release-date-price/
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If these rumors are true I'll definitely hold on to my money for the OP3. I'd definitely purchase a 5.5 inch OP3. The specs are crazy.
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If these rumors are true I'll definitely hold on to my money for the OP3. I'd definitely purchase a 5.5 inch OP3. The specs are crazy.
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I'm definitely waiting for this beast to come out. I've been a loyal fan of the galaxy series since the beginning, however the phones are too pricey and I need to explore other cheaper and reliable options in the future.
The Moto X Pure/Style is a 5.7" slim phone, same size as the Note 3 and Note 4.
Screen is as bright as the Note 4 in sunlight.
The bootloader is unlocked easily through Motorola and CM/AOSP ROM's are in abundance.
Phone works and is supported on all major carriers, including Verizon LTE.
Other than the Nexus 6P, it's really the only newer/good phone out that is 5.5" or larger screen size and has active development and works on ALL carriers.
I came from Note 3 and Note 4 and am happy with the phone.
Performance is about the same as Note 4 though.
I'm personally waiting to see what the next nexus looks like. Or I might jump on the HTC 10 if I get impatient. That should be a very ROM friendly phone
dkb218 said:
I update phones every year but since I considered the Note 5 a downgrade, I upgraded my Note 4 with another Note 4. I am no longer in the business if updating for the sake of updating. If the Note 6 doesn't bring back the SD card and IR blaster and be rootable [must have Viper4Android], I'll buy another Note 4. Samsung hit the sweet spot with the 4.
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I understand upgrading every year to a newer model, but why upgrade to the same phone? I am still on Note 4 I got through a pre-order and it works just fine. Just curious.
I've had (since Jan) LG G4, Nexus 6p, OnePlusOne, and my Note 4. All other ones didn't come close to the Note.
The 6p was good, but the shoddy build quality and limited storage was a deal breaker for me.
The G4 was great, but locked bootloader and lack of a fingerprint scanner was blah.
As far as phablets go, the Note 4 is still the best you can get.
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@MisterCoolBeans
Broad question but an interesting topic. Generally electronics and any other trades, there are years/releases/versions that hold value compared to years/releases/versions that are released as an illusion of an upgrade. Generally best value for the buck is to wait. Since from 1+ years you'll pay from 1/4 less to a fraction of retail. If your company pays for it it's another story. Look at any product/trade sold. New isn't always better, sometimes not just worse but actually costing you more than what use you get out of it. Advertisement/lies work thus advancement for centuries. If you are tempted by supposed improvement I say snap out of it & wait, rely on history. If you need a kick to approve your desire that might be foolish, go and have fun with her, since you won't keep in mind that not only will she bite u in the aa but might also shorten your human lifespan. All up to personal preference:angel:
Current(historical) example. I had s4 before n4. General consensus s5 & n5 is a downgrade. Again look at any other product you've acquired in the past(phones, cars, clothes, hardware, software, utilities, services, relationships, etc). There is a heart beat in your heart and scammers have the same rhythm. That is for centuries if you look at any available history.
Lastly is the reason. Why? To be more efficient and productive? Or to up your neighbor that you have the latest?
Can't control your mind's decision, have a coin choose a path for you easy, just flip it
Written with best wishes to you:good:
My original note 4 had water damage and considered jumping to s7 edge. Note 5 was out of the question. But I wasn't sure I could live without removable battery, SD card slot for my 200gb card, stylus, and lastly give up my IR which I use as my universal remote around the house. I had a feeling if I got an s7 edge I would be happy with it temporarily so I ended up getting another note 4. In my opinion, the note 4 is the Swiss army of all phones. I really love that about the note 4.
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My gf just got an S7, so like a good geek, I played around with it for a good chunk of time lol.
It's nice, there's no doubt about that, but I still prefer my Note 4
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I update phones every year but since I considered the Note 5 a downgrade, I upgraded my Note 4 with another Note 4. I am no longer in the business if updating for the sake of updating. If the Note 6 doesn't bring back the SD card and IR blaster and be rootable [must have Viper4Android], I'll buy another Note 4. Samsung hit the sweet spot with the 4.
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Why would you buy a new Note 4 3 years in a row? The Note 4 can surely last more than a single year without any issues.
It's only a month from when last year the axon 7 was announced. Doing some Internet searching doesn't bring up anything as yet.
Does anyone know if we are to get an Axon 8 shorty?
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Probably because it isn't gonna be called axon 8, but axon gigabit
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It's only a month from when last year the axon 7 was announced. Doing some Internet searching doesn't bring up anything as yet.
Does anyone know if we are to get an Axon 8 shorty?
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There was a prototype exhibition of a gigabit phone, but I'm not sure if this is really a flagship for this year. Most articles acknowledge that this is more of just a concept showing ZTE has the tech in development rather than a concrete flagship for this year. Currently it seems like ZTE has not announced anything new for the Axon line this year. Maybe it will be announced later? Or they're just going to focus on refining the Axon 7 for some time?
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@front firing speakers
Probably because it isn't gonna be called axon 8, but axon gigabit
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tupurl said:
There was a prototype exhibition of a gigabit phone, but I'm not sure if this is really a flagship for this year. Most articles acknowledge that this is more of just a concept showing ZTE has the tech in development rather than a concrete flagship for this year. Currently it seems like ZTE has not announced anything new for the Axon line this year. Maybe it will be announced later? Or they're just going to focus on refining the Axon 7 for some time?
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Besides they were clear that it was only a prototype and a specific model using this technology would be available until next year.
I think eventually will see successor guess within next 1-3 months it's reasonable time being.
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I'm sure we'll be hearing something very soon.
I won't be upgrading from my Axon 7 for at least another year, but when I do upgrade, I hope that ZTE puts up a fight for my money.
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I think eventually will see successor guess within next 1-3 months it's reasonable time being.
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Valentyn_L said:
I'm sure we'll be hearing something very soon.
I won't be upgrading from my Axon 7 for at least another year, but when I do upgrade, I hope that ZTE puts up a fight for my money.
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I think that ZTE is not releasing anything this year, or at least not until the end of year. By now all the specs were leaked last year and May was the date to release the Axon 7, so I highly doubt they are working on something else, or they have it really hidden.
Another thing is that they are still putting all the effort into the Axon 7, which is a good sign that they plan to continue to have this device as the company's flagship for the moment.
That's what I thought and basis for my question. Do rumours yet looks like no phone
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That's what I thought and basis for my question. Do rumours yet looks like no phone
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Actually I just read somewhere, maybe on xda that when someone asked why the axon max(6gb ram 128gb storage version of axon 7) was no longer being sold and apparently the rep told them that they were working on a new phone that would be ready by the summer so they had stopped production of the axon max. I don't know how much weight that statement holds but definitely something to keep an eye out for.
Since will see oneplus 5 within 2 months guess ZTE wouldn't want to miss the party and let onleplus to play by its own on that 400-450 price segment category.
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Since will see oneplus 5 within 2 months guess ZTE wouldn't want to miss the party and let onleplus to play by its own on that 400-450 price segment category.
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* Especially since the OnePlus 3 hardware specs this last year were not even comparable to the ZTE Axon 7 -- no 1440p AMOLED, no award winning DAC, no front-facing speakers, no BMW-designed frame. That first spec -- 1440p -- is what separates the serious players from juveniles in my mind. I've had 1440p AMOLED since 2014, and I'm not downgrading back to 1080p. OnePlus 3T (end of year update) was better, but still no 1440p AMOLED.
Yes, I can see a difference. If you want 1080p, there's a 100 companies selling 5.5" 1080p generic slabs. Go get one -- just don't tell me there's no difference. All the major players -- LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Google, etc offer 1440p. Whereas every "budget" Chinse company offers 5.5" 1080p slabs. Dime a dozen as they say.
This year, allegedly OnePlus will finally offer 1440p AMOLED with their OnePlus 5, so we'll see.
* If ZTE had offered Qi wireless if the Axon 7, I would have bought 3 of them. Qi wireless is more important to me than "all metal". I put cases on my phones anyway. Put glass or ceramic back on the phone so we can have Qi wireless.
As for "improvements"? Besides Qi wireless, ZTE Axon 8 needs a BIGGER battery. 3250 mAh is not enough. I have a 3900 mAh battery on my 5.2" 1440p AMOLED Moto XT1225. This phone needs AT LEAST 4,000 mAh. Nobody is begging for credit card thin phones. Everybody wants a BIGGER battery.
Also, add backlighting to the capacitive buttons -- and space them wider apart.
* ZTE Axon 8 is probably going to be delayed from last year's Axon 7 launch date due to the shortage of Snapdragon 835 chips. That's why LG went with the Snapdragon 821 -- because otherwise they would be waiting until summer to launch their phone.
ZTE Axon 8 will be one of the five phones I'm watching in the 2nd half of 2017, to replace my Moto XT1225:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/general/2017-phones-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950
I'm planning on buying a new smartphone Q4 2017.
I'm hoping there will be a ZTE Axon 8, so I can then weigh up against OnePlus 4/5 and Huawei Honor 9.
My understanding is that the ZTE Axon 7 is an excellent phone, so things are looking good.
For those of you not looking to upgrade from your Axon 7s, let hope the Axon 9 will be a beast (if you plan to upgrade after 24 month period).
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* Especially since the OnePlus hardware specs this last year were not even comparable -- no 1440p AMOLED, no award winning DAC, no front-facing speakers, no BMW-designed frame. That first spec -- 1440p -- is what separates the serious players from juveniles in my mind. I've had 1440p AMOLED since 2014, and I'm not downgrading back to 1080p.
All the major players -- LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Google, etc offer 1440p. Whereas every "budget" Chinse company offers 5.5" 1080p slabs. Dime a dozen as they say.
This year, allegedly OnePlus will finally offer 1440p AMOLED, so we'll see.
* If ZTE had offered Qi wireless if the Axon 7, I would have bought 3 of them. Qi wireless is more important to me than "all metal". I put cases on my phones anyway.
* ZTE Axon 8 is probably going to be delayed from last year's Axon 7 launch date due to the shortage of Snapdragon 835 chips. That's why LG went with the Snapdragon 821 -- because otherwise they would be waiting until summer to launch their phone.
ZTE Axon 8 will be one of the five phones I'm watching in the 2nd half of 2017, to replace my Moto XT1225:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/general/2017-phones-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950
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Me too have top priority Axon 8 but meanwhile I will try Galaxy S8 while keeping current Axon 7.
As for what I want is AOD feature,improved camera performance(low light and video recording witch struggling right now) and if ZTE keep current form factor I would prefer bottom navigation button to be backlight
Also LED notification support more color than just red or green as today.
Of course keeping all the positive deliver today.
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Actually the the new zte device is zte axon 8 a2018 zte releases in may as always
musicman5844 said:
Actually the the new zte device is zte axon 8 a2018 zte releases in may as always
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That's the Axon 7S, but maybe they will launch it as Axon 8 on international market.
Let's see, because is not kind of big improvement over the actual Axon 7.
Galaxo60 said:
That's the Axon 7S, but maybe they will launch it as Axon 8 on international market.
Let's see, because is not kind of big improvement over the actual Axon 7.
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Actually read again a2018 , https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...8-gets-certified-zte-axon-8-flagship.html/amp
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Actually read again a2018 , https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...8-gets-certified-zte-axon-8-flagship.html/amp
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Actually, read again:
"This handset is extremely similar to the ZTE Axon 7s which was announced quite recently"
As I said, it seems they just renamed it for global market, and wouldn't be the first time a company does this. Is sad, because I was expecting kind of better design and larger battery, because everything else is good enough already. Still I appreciate they kept the speakers.
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Since will see oneplus 5 within 2 months guess ZTE wouldn't want to miss the party and let onleplus to play by its own on that 400-450 price segment category.
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ZTE Axon 9. Likely to be announced in October. Yes, they are skipping over 8 and going straight to 9..
All my information is from an XDA member who participated in a focus group in Germany, and he relayed what ZTE managers told him.
See this page (page 13):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...s-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950/page13
Specifically this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73686747&postcount=121
Galaxo60 said:
Actually, read again:
"This handset is extremely similar to the ZTE Axon 7s which was announced quite recently"
As I said, it seems they just renamed it for global market, and wouldn't be the first time a company does this. Is sad, because I was expecting kind of better design and larger battery, because everything else is good enough already. Still I appreciate they kept the speakers.
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They've omitted stereo speakers on Axon7s.?
ChazzMatt said:
ZTE Axon 9. To be announced in October. Yes, they are skipping over 8 and going straight to 9..
All my information is from an XDA member who participated in a focus group in Germany, and he relayed what ZTE managers told him.
See this page (page 13):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...s-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950/page13
Specifically this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73686747&postcount=121
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Yes I’ve read this at V30 thread.
Well we shall see next month.
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I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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Umm I Have Both Moto G3 and G4 Plus ( Die Hard Moto Fanboy Had a G2 Too ) I Feel Moto is Losing There Unique Design Language That Made It Standout from Chinese Brands and Also G4+ Has A Lot on Heating Issues ( Worse than It Sounds ) and Depending on What Type Of Phone You Get (its a Lottery) You are Gonna Face Burn-in or Ghost Touch Issues So If You Are Into Custom ROMs Than I Would Suggest Buy G3 Instead Of G4+ Its Not Worth It Development Is Equally Good if Not Better and If You Do End Up Buying a G4+ Make Sure to Protect That Camera Lens Gets Scratched Up Too Easily
Otherwise Miso (RN4) Does Exists
Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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imo, if you can help it, stay away from Motorola. They've been really shoddy about updates for all their phones, including the G4. There have also been issues regarding ghost touches/screen failures, but nearly every phone has its share of issues and the G4 is not unique in this regard.
If you plan to root/ROM your phone, the G4 is not a bad choice as there are a variety of ROMs to choose from, as well as decent support.
Even if you do purchase a G4+, don't spend more than $200 USD on it. Any more than $200, and you can get vastly better phones such as the Nexus 5X, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3/4, and the Huawei Honor 6X.
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imo, if you can help it, stay away from Motorola. They've been really shoddy about updates for all their phones, including the G4. There have also been issues regarding ghost touches/screen failures, but nearly every phone has its share of issues and the G4 is not unique in this regard.
If you plan to root/ROM your phone, the G4 is not a bad choice as there are a variety of ROMs to choose from, as well as decent support.
Even if you do purchase a G4+, don't spend more than $200 USD on it. Any more than $200, and you can get vastly better phones such as the Nexus 5X, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3/4, and the Huawei Honor 6X.
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thanks for your valuable remarks
electronode said:
Umm I Have Both Moto G3 and G4 Plus ( Die Hard Moto Fanboy Had a G2 Too ) I Feel Moto is Losing There Unique Design Language That Made It Standout from Chinese Brands and Also G4+ Has A Lot on Heating Issues ( Worse than It Sounds ) and Depending on What Type Of Phone You Get (its a Lottery) You are Gonna Face Burn-in or Ghost Touch Issues So If You Are Into Custom ROMs Than I Would Suggest Buy G3 Instead Of G4+ Its Not Worth It Development Is Equally Good if Not Better and If You Do End Up Buying a G4+ Make Sure to Protect That Camera Lens Gets Scratched Up Too Easily
Otherwise Miso (RN4) Does Exists
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thanks for you vast info. i was really unknown to those issues. thanks again. i'll go for nexus 5x then.
Plabon7 said:
thanks for you vast info. i was really unknown to those issues. thanks again. i'll go for nexus 5x then.
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Well, don't forget that the Nexus 5X also has the bootloop issue.
If you want to root and ROM, I heartily recommend the 2015 X/X Pure if you can afford it. Or the OnePlus 2.
But, if you're going to stay on stock, get a Nokia 6 (or whatever other phones they have). Stock Android with super fast updates.
My previous phone was an iPhone 4. I am very happy with my G4+ and they can be had for a $200 for the 64GB model. There are many well supported ROMs to choose from. Most OEM update support sucks...a friend of mine dropped $700 on his Galaxy S7 and is in 7.0 with the February security patch. Due to fantastic developer (thank you OAdam11 for Tesla) support, I am running 7.1.2 with the May 5 security update. I would recommend it.
Redmi note 4x(Snapdragon ) except bootloader unlocking is difficult to somebody ( not for me), definitely better than g4plus.I had both ,but as per development and MIUI , Redmi note 4x is my choice for your budget.
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Redmi note 4x(Snapdragon ) except bootloader unlocking is difficult to somebody ( not for me), definitely better than g4plus.I had both ,but as per development and MIUI , Redmi note 4x is my choice for your budget.
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but as far as i know note 4x does not have a good camera.
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My previous phone was an iPhone 4. I am very happy with my G4+ and they can be had for a $200 for the 64GB model. There are many well supported ROMs to choose from. Most OEM update support sucks...a friend of mine dropped $700 on his Galaxy S7 and is in 7.0 with the February security patch. Due to fantastic developer (thank you OAdam11 for Tesla) support, I am running 7.1.2 with the May 5 security update. I would recommend it.
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heating issue?
I have had no issues with excessive heating or screen burn in personally.
Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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I bought a second hand one for gps use last month and ended up using it as my primary device. I also have a Moto x play and kumia (pointless). I bought it for 140usd - 9000inr. The back camera lens is scratched a bit but there is no other issue. Photos are clear though. The phone is very nice and it doesn't heat up for me as many people say. Gets fully charged in 1.25 hours. I don't play games so for other use it works awesome.
It is way better than Moto x play which I bought when it released. The camera is good. That can be also an option for you . Or, you can go for Nexus 5x. Price dropped and you can also find a second sale phone for less than 150. If you are so Keen about the quality buy a scratched phone for low price, replace the case housing. It's new.
I have a lumia 640xl which I refurbished under 100usd. It still works charm..
Go for it mate...
I know it's been several months since someone posted something here, but I'm curious to know your opinion on this...
I have just purchased an used Moto G4 Plus XT1644 4GB + 64GB yesterday at B&H Photo in excellent condition (10 out of 10), at least that's how they described it, for $138.50 shipped. It's arriving on Thursday.
I was not aware of its many issues like, heating issues, screen burn in / ghost touches and so on... So now I'm kinda worried about my decision...
My wife had an iPhone 6 and I converted her to a Moto G5 Plus about 3 to 4 months ago. She's very happy with the phone.
I only went with the G4 Plus because of the extra RAM, plenty storage space, external SD card reader and larger screen compared to the G5 Plus (*for the price I paid*). Most importantly, I bought the G4 Plus because it has ElementalX kernel, official Lineage OS support and TWRP as well. The combination of these three kept my Nexus 5 going for 3+ years before it gave up on me a few months ago.
My N5 still works but it randomly shuts down and reboots when using demanding tasks like taking photos or when it heats up. As long as I can keep it frozen (out of the freezer - literally) it works just fine though.
I've been using a crappy $60 Amazon Prime Exclusive phone, the Blu R1 HD on stock Marshmallow + Magisk / Xposed / Gravity Box / N-ify. Performance is fine considering what I paid for it. Thanks to the infamous fire.apk that plagued the R1 HD for months, I managed to get a full refund for that phone today. So I've got a free phone with malware basically.
I really wanted a 5.5" to 6" phone with good dev support on the cheap but as you know, both the G5 Plus / G5S Plus have a smaller 5.2" and very little dev support (compared to the G4 Plus) and they cost quite a bit more.
So I went with lower price, better dev support and slightly bigger screen on the G4 Plus.
What do you guys think?
Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
tele_jas said:
Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
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-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Here is what it says on the samsung website: (see attachment)
Also you get McAfee
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I pay $50 a month for unlimited 4G LTE data. I average anywhere between 25-30GB of data usage every month.
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I have to agree with TPMJB, I think it would be a bad move. There was a nice offer to get a S8 on Amazon, but the differences are against the S8. The A7 has such a greater sound, greater battery, already a great screen, its CPU and GPU are more than enough for any game (but I don't play), 4GB RAM is also more than enough, ...
Why spending more to get less or something that's not yet needed?
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Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
tele_jas said:
Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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I was on the same boat until I had it physically on my and hand, and the design is sexy af, but honestly, that's all. I have always been away from Samsung devices because I hate capacitive buttons, and when Huawei (favorite brand) started to put them, I started to look for something else, and Samsung made the contrary move by remove them and improve the design.
Screen is more less the same, and you have to know that battery is noticeable worse when using the device in full resolution, because they come with FHD as default and most of the tests about battery were done with this resolution.
Speaker is average, but is mono. Is a big dealbreaker for me, because no point in having that nice display when you have a mono speaker, is just ruins the multimedia experience.
And the final thing for me to make me pass for the S8 was the fingerprint scanner, next to the camera is the most retarded place to put it, so pretty much is unusable for me.
Price is not important for me, fortunately I can buy any device I want, and I was going to buy the S8 until I had it on my hand. Also I was considering the P10 Plus, mostly because of the camera, but that capacitive button is just not that nice and gestures don't work correctly. I was playing like 10 minutes with it, and gestures were all buggy and not intuitive. Before that, I also had the Mate 9, but I returned it and came back to the Axon 7 because of the screen and sound, even when camera was slightly better.
In conclusion, I won't be changing the Axon 7 until I see a real contender to it. Real stereo speakers, nice battery, good display and decent camera are enough for me, which none of the devices released in 2107 have. In my opinion, exchanging the multimedia experience for a "better" design is not the best move to do.
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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what I meant is that there is not really a gap, it's not like the 820 is so slow already that one NEEDS a 835. A real gap is something like a a notebook with an Atom and a real laptop with a Pentium or a Core.
So the S8 has a faster processor but not needed by any application around.
Beside, I've read so many times that the S8 screen is very fragile. One drop and...
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
freeza said:
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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Must be a good friend of Mase thats why, so unfortunate...
freeza said:
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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My boy chrih steps into the ring and immediately delivers a knockout blow early into the first round.
LG V20 here, Samsung sucks. Don't buy any of their phones unless you want a bloated piece of **** that'll run like ass after a few weeks of usage and break more than iPhones.
ChazzMatt said:
ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
TPMJB said:
Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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As far as I know, the Axon 8 will be the same device as the Axon 7S, and they will just change the name for international market.
It seems the real change maybe will come next year when they released the Gigabyte phone the showed earlier this year.
Using a Samsung galaxy s20 plus exynos version and very tempted by the oneplus 8 pro. My main concern though is the curved comers of the oneplus 8 pro as this is likely to make it difficult to hold the phone without accidental touch presses. Anyone else come from s20 line or considering coming from s20. What are your thoughts please especially now that the S20 line is coming down in price well second hand prices.
marvi0 said:
Using a Samsung galaxy s20 plus exynos version and very tempted by the oneplus 8 pro. My main concern though is the curved comers of the oneplus 8 pro as this is likely to make it difficult to hold the phone without accidental touch presses. Anyone else come from s20 line or considering coming from s20. What are your thoughts please especially now that the S20 line is coming down in price well second hand prices.
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I preordered my OP8 pro 12/256 GB on April 15th, expected dispatch date is April 22nd (8/128 was sold out at the time I placed the preorder)
But now my Carrier has a special deal for S20 series, I can get S20+ (exynos) for around 715 euro on a 2 year contract. Ok, it is 8/128 GB version, but still it is 300 euro difference
My previous phone was S10+ (sold it last week) and I was pretty satisfied with it. I actually like OneUI and the possibility of rootless theming with Synergy
I'm undecided what to do now, whether to keep the preorder or to cancel it and take the S20+
important things for me as per priority order : camera, batt life, UI smoothness and theming..
how is your experience with S20+ ? camera, batt life etc ?
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I preordered my OP8 pro 12/256 GB on April 15th, expected dispatch date is April 22nd (8/128 was sold out at the time I placed the preorder)
But now my Carrier has a special deal for S20 series, I can get S20+ (exynos) for around 715 euro on a 2 year contract. Ok, it is 8/128 GB version, but still it is 300 euro difference
My previous phone was S10+ (sold it last week) and I was pretty satisfied with it. I actually like OneUI and the possibility of rootless theming with Synergy
I'm undecided what to do now, whether to keep the preorder or to cancel it and take the S20+
important things for me as per priority order : camera, batt life, UI smoothness and theming..
how is your experience with S20+ ? camera, batt life etc ?
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Phew that's a good deal buddy. My experience with my s20+ has been overall good. I don't really measure battery that much as I work from home so always have a charger. As for the camera I just take random pics and we all locked down in the UK so haven't been out to capture good pics. The experience overall has improved in terms of performance. I know they say the sd version is better compared to the exynos but have never used the sd so I cannot compare. The thing that worries me the most are the curved edges of the oneplus as they look really big and annoying. As I spend literally all day on my phone for work I would definitely find them hard to manage as most reviews keep on about them curves ?.
i have a s20u hk unlocked bootloader, probably going to return it once i get my op8 pro
masri1987 said:
i have a s20u hk unlocked bootloader, probably going to return it once i get my op8 pro
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Where did you get it can you return with unlocked bootloader?
marvi0 said:
Where did you get it can you return with unlocked bootloader?
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Yeah it triggers Knox and you can't undo it.
I didn't go to Samsung any more because I am in the US and rootable Samsungs don't have newer US frequencies. My Tmo McLaren is rooted, so no more Samsungs over here.
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Where did you get it can you return with unlocked bootloader?
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Yeah it triggers Knox and you can't undo it.
I didn't go to Samsung any more because I am in the US and rootable Samsungs don't have newer US frequencies. My Tmo McLaren is rooted, so no more Samsungs over here.
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ebay, and yeah i can return it, and don't care if the seller doesn't like it. he mislabeled the ad for the phone having 66\71 bands for LTE when it didn't.
I hate samsung, i should've never gone back, what a nightmare especially with their CSC bs !
I have S20 ultra and just got my OP8pro. I havent set it up yet but checked it littlebit and i already hate that it has more curved screen than S20 has. Especially when Samsung started to get rid of curved screens...
I've been a Samsung user for many years, upgraded my Note 9 to the S20 Ultra and didn't feel satisfied. Today I received my OP8Pro 12Gb version and so far I'm blown away. What a mighty device, it makes me smile from ear to ear.
Let's see how this will remain after using this beast as a daily driver for a longer period.
Ordered the ultra, didn't come, cancelled it. Ordered the 1+8pro on the 20th at 1530, came at 0950 on the 21st. Free bullets.
Phone is a beast
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Ordered the ultra, didn't come, cancelled it. Ordered the 1+8pro on the 20th at 1530, came at 0950 on the 21st. Free bullets.
Phone is a beast
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Where are you based buddy? That was very quick delivery!
marvi0 said:
Where are you based buddy? That was very quick delivery!
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I'm in the UK.
I was very surprised tbh, impressive, three used DPD
I am, my S20+ is on eBay now and hopefully my 8 Pro arrives today, would have preferred the blue but not an option in the UK so green it is.
Exynos is a mess this year and the camera still cannot cope with any movement at all in a scene.
I come from a long line of curved screen phones with accidental touch input..
This phone is not like that... curves are not as drastic as are made to look like on reviews.. And palm rejection is excellent as well. . just my 2 cents Love my OP8P in blue.
Right, so, I had my P30 Pro, and wanted to change with something better. Well, it's not, yet. I' e ordered S20 ultra, mega disappointed (camera, battery life, everything), then sold it, and bought s20+, which is far better, but still, the camera is the worst I've ev9seen. Try this, with a tripod: night, no light at all, from nowhere, night mode on, Galaxy S10, Note10+, S20+. Well, the camera, from s10 is impressive! And I'll post images soon. P30 was, and still is an amazing phone, at least for camera.
Now, taking these info in fact, and bringing the advantages from op8 pro, you have the answer. Op8 pro is way better for less money.
marvi0 said:
Using a Samsung galaxy s20 plus exynos version and very tempted by the oneplus 8 pro. My main concern though is the curved comers of the oneplus 8 pro as this is likely to make it difficult to hold the phone without accidental touch presses. Anyone else come from s20 line or considering coming from s20. What are your thoughts please especially now that the S20 line is coming down in price well second hand prices.
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Im considering this currently with a s20 ultra with SD processor, but consider OP 8 Pro just for the development capabilities as flashing kernels, roms, etc.
However with all the FP issue after unlock bootloader and doing all the customization options this phone would allow me to do it, im starting to doubt about making the change, im reading all the days this forum to see any updates regarding on those issues, because to keep it stock i would better stay with the s20 ultra.
Any thoughts?
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Im considering this currently with a s20 ultra with SD processor, but consider OP 8 Pro just for the development capabilities as flashing kernels, roms, etc.
However with all the FP issue after unlock bootloader and doing all the customization options this phone would allow me to do it, im starting to doubt about making the change, im reading all the days this forum to see any updates regarding on those issues, because to keep it stock i would better stay with the s20 ultra.
Any thoughts?
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No fingerprint issues that I've seen if you do everything correctly.
Even keeping it stock I would still go with the OP
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No fingerprint issues that I've seen if you do everything correctly.
Even keeping it stock I would still go with the OP
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What would be the correct steps in your thinking to just flash another kernel?
It would be my first OP so not able to compare between samsung vs OP, but if you do, what are the points that will make you go to the OP?
arsenal74 said:
I am, my S20+ is on eBay now and hopefully my 8 Pro arrives today, would have preferred the blue but not an option in the UK so green it is.
Exynos is a mess this year and the camera still cannot cope with any movement at all in a scene.
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Exynos is a mess every year lol. Glad i sold my Exynos S20U 5G. OnePlus 8 pro is much better in every way..
marvi0 said:
Using a Samsung galaxy s20 plus exynos version and very tempted by the oneplus 8 pro. My main concern though is the curved comers of the oneplus 8 pro as this is likely to make it difficult to hold the phone without accidental touch presses. Anyone else come from s20 line or considering coming from s20. What are your thoughts please especially now that the S20 line is coming down in price well second hand prices.
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I had the s20 ultra snapdragon version briefly. It was ok, but not much different from my note 10 plus. The OnePlus 8 pro is waaaaay better to me. Especially for the amount your paying $1500 vs $1000... OnePlus all day