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Should I upgrade to 6.0.1?

I've heard stories of massive performance dips and issues after updating to 6.0.1.
The notice is pretty much permanently in my notifications until I do it.

Tsukihi said:
I've heard stories of massive performance dips and issues after updating to 6.0.1.
The notice is pretty much permanently in my notifications until I do it.
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Nothing as such. In fact, MCH19I is by-far the best update.

Tsukihi said:
I've heard stories of massive performance dips and issues after updating to 6.0.1.
The notice is pretty much permanently in my notifications until I do it.
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Yeah I'm not sure where you're seeing that but it certainly hasn't been true for me.

No and 6.0.1 fixes problems with Bluetooth and streaming video quality, I've been much happier with my 6p since installing the update.

My phone jumped 15,000 points on An tu tu when going from 6.0.0 to 6.0.1
Deffinitly upgrade. If you don't like it, flash back.
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My phone works great on 6.0.1. But I got the phone late and 6.0.1 was already waiting for me the first time I used my phone so I can't judge. I did follow this phone very closely before I got it and I did read a bunch of stuff about 6.0.1 messing with doze mode and there for effecting battery life but so far I see no problems what so ever

Anyone else refusing to update?

I can't see ANYTHING in Nougat that is tempting me away from MM. My phone runs brilliantly, I prefer the options/interface and battery life is exceptional.
I think the only thing that perhaps would make it worthwhile for me is if they give the new camera algorithms from the S8/S8+ to the S7 and that's not going to happen.
Anyone else?

You won't receive any more updates on Marshmallow anymore thus there's no option than to update.

I don't blame you at all. I dragged my feet for a while, making sure it was stable. I kind of wish I had not updated at this point. It's stable and my outstanding battery life has not changed a bit. But the new interface kind of blows. Harder to do certain tasks with the same apps, the very light interface is not my cup of tea (themes don't do anything for the too light notification shade) and I don't use a single new function that Nougat has in it.
Still loving my S7E, but maybe a little less now.

No, I like security updates.

Android O - OTA Update & First Thoughts

Hi All,
As the title states: I have an unlocked Pixel XL directly from Google. Popped in a Verizon SIM a few months back and it works perfectly. The Android O Update arrived and I chose to move forward.
Overall - Android O is great. The one thing that I have noticed is that my battery life has decreased. Android Nougat had amazing battery life on the Pixel.
Has anyone experienced this issue with Android O? I am not rooted.
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I've experienced issues with voice typing not working, and voice texting showing a black white screen, yet working.
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My experience is there is slight lag that Nougat never had, battery drain is bad, and many things that worked for me in Nougat stopped in Oreo like auto tethering.
Most of these issues will probably resolved over time by Google and the developers who make apps we use, and I just installed Google play services version 948 to see if it fixes battery drain. I'm learning the more Google goes in the direction of security they are going, the longer fixes and updates for things that stop working with major upgrades takes. I am surprised nothing for Oreo in Rom development has been released other than Elemental X, but I am spoiled and should have learned the development patience that was Pixel when it first came out.

The performance/smoothness since Oreo release has been simply fantastic for me. On Nougat I always had the random freezing issue, which drove me bonkers, would have sold the phone had it continued like that, but Oreo has got rid of the problem totally and the performance of the device has been top notch for last two weeks since I am using Oreo. So that's a huge plus for me.
Other than that I don't appreciate some of the UI changes done. Like the reduced font size of Lockscreen date and clock, the date especially is very hard to notice at slight glance. The white notification pull down is killing my eyes. The new settings menu though looks clean enough.
Some apps have started working erratic though, like the call recorder I use doesn't work half the time now, but given Oreo is out for two weeks only that's understandable. However the preview Betas ran for months before the official release, so that's one thing.
About batter backup, well, on WiFi its either on par with Nougat or slightly better, but on data/LTE its simply worse.
All in all, as first release, I like it, I am a smoothness freak and as long as UI reacts buttery I am all good.

Don't like the UI changes.
Battery life as far as screen on time is somewhat lower than on N.
Its cool to have LDAC and AptX BT support, but its not always reliable and i notice it reverts to SBC frequently and require re-pair of device (mainly my car head unit).
PowerAmp no longer thinks the Pixel supports HiFI DAC.....so my very nice USB DAC is no longer amazing sounding. (worked fine on N)

Like above, my battery life has been subpar, as well as the other day my phone repeatedly would overheat within a minute of booting. Like very hot, and then would shut off.

We've already been talking about all that over here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/android-8-0-oreo-factory-images-t3660219

Getting frustrated with poor performance

I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since day one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?

fungo45 said:
I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since say one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?
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You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.

I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement

I've been running N 7.1.1 since I got the phone 2 weeks ago and the performance has been stellar, scrolling is smooth and fast, no freezes at all, after reading the issues with 8.1 beta (battery drain, wifi etc.) I'm in no rush to upgrade....

I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.

tech_head said:
You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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InfDaMarvel said:
I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.
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yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!

herwarth said:
yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!
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The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!

InfDaMarvel said:
The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!
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S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...

Jostian said:
S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...
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S9+ to be exact

InfDaMarvel said:
S9+ to be exact
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Yip S9+
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look I had the S8 and it was stellar, but was looking for some cash so sold my S8 for $620 and bought the PH-1 for $450, and I'm really impressed so far, ok sure I dont to rocket science etc on the phone so I'm a pretty light user, but on 7.1.1 its been superb since day 1, smooth, snappy and better battery than the S8.

Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.

fungo45 said:
Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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Started using Greenify, but to work as intended, it requires you to set it as a Device Admin. When doing this, it disables the fingerprint sensor.

alkanaft said:
Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.
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Yes, am in no rush to go to Oreo as 7.1.1 is so solid for me
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why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?

jusegozu said:
I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement
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Ditto here.My 7.1.1 was acting up.Oreo has been butter.Some nice tweaks built in as well.Pic in Pic is cool and useful.As is the floating dialer.

herwarth said:
why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?
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I'd say that RAM is not an issue here. The software causes phone performance to degrade. 8.1 works fine for me. Hardware itself in PH-1 is awesome. And price tag beats OnePlus and many others. ??

So far, the Oreo OTA update has been great. No issues like I had on Nougat. Hope this remains.

How to BLOCK update to Oreo

I keep reading horror stories about what happens when an S8 is "upgraded" to Oreo. I'm REALLY afraid of what would happen to my phone. How can I BLOCK the update?

Well, I've set the "update" to occur between 2 am and 5 am. I leave the phone off during that time. Keeping my fingers crossed that the update won't happen.

Horror? Just update the damn phone man.. i love my oreo update!

Bart3n said:
Horror? Just update the damn phone man.. i love my oreo update!
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I don't see ANY love for Oreo expressed here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/oreo-battery-life-t3749459
That's horrible.

If you don't like it you can always go back to nougat if you want..
You can't keep avoiding it forever.. no more updates.. no new features.. no security patches..

The features don't impress me. What's the difference between obtaining updates based on not getting oreo at all vs. reverting back to nougat? BTW, you didn't say if you've had any battery issues with Oreo.

Robert3750 said:
The features don't impress me. What's the difference between obtaining updates based on not getting oreo at all vs. reverting back to nougat? BTW, you didn't say if you've had any battery issues with Oreo.
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I don't have any issues.. it's the same as with nougat so..

Can confirm, having no issues at all with oreo, neither with battery nor anything other. I really don't understand why everyone hates oreo. But I also have to admit i'm on Renovate ICE and not stock.

if you stop oreo update, the notification of update will be always displayed and very annoying. even i am unsatisfacted by oreo, more lags, battery drain more and partial incompatibility with whatsapp (even confirmed by whatsapp team)... but the persistent notification update constricred me to update. it's true that can downgrade to nougat, but the same problem will be represented....

Well, the update was forced on me this morning. I'm keeping an eye on battery life.

Ok, so I've had Oreo for a day, and I have to say that I'm not seeing any noticeable problem with battery life. So it looks like there was no reason for my angst. I wonder why other people have such problems?