Has there been a determination as to whether the v20 has Simultaneous voice and data capability? I still waiting patiently (not) for delivery of my v20.
This is completely carrier dependent in handset firmware configuration
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This is completely carrier dependent in handset firmware configuration
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I agree, my carrier is Sprint.With my old device a note 3 it has dual antennas making simultaneous voice and data possible on 4g lte. Now with Sprint Spark it not possible with a single antenna device. Do you know by chance if the v20 is a dual antenna device?
Not sure about the single sim version, might work on the dual sim one, at least I can have 4G+3G or 3G+3G simultaneous
Works will AT&T. I know for a fact, just used both Simultaneous an hour ago
Tmo and att have volte for sure
Any GSM carrier will be able to do voice and data at the same time. It's the CDMA carriers that will be up in the air if they will be able to or not.
I can confirm the Verizon V20 does voice & data at the same time due to the voice over LTE. I haven't had that functionality since the HTC Thunderbolt when 4G first came out years ago
I've been running the V20 for 8 days now and LOVE it. Now if only we can find a way to exploit the locked bootloader.
Do you mean VoLTE?
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The Verizon model has video calling so it has data and voice at same time.
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The Verizon model has video calling so it has data and voice at same time.
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My VZ LG v20 does NOT have voice and data at same time.
Go into advanced calling and turn that on it'll give it to you then
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I agree, my carrier is Sprint.With my old device a note 3 it has dual antennas making simultaneous voice and data possible on 4g lte. Now with Sprint Spark it not possible with a single antenna device. Do you know by chance if the v20 is a dual antenna device?
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That's the sole reason why I left Sprint
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All Verizon lg v20 have voice and data at the same time. You can be on a phone call with LTE speeds.
I had sprint years back and hated them because my music streaming would stop and load. Then, another spotty sprint area, my music would stop again and load. Hated that.
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has anyone with a sprint v20 been able to verify if this does work? my sprint note 4 does not have this, but my previous Sprint S4 did have it. I am hoping the Sprint v20 has it.
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Until they introduce VoLTE on Sprint no Sprint phone that has all of the LTE bands in it will be able to do simultaneous voice and data and VoLTE is not a priority for Sprint right now. So you either gotta move back to something like the Note 3 and get less LTE coverage or leave Sprint to get what you want.
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My VZ LG v20 does NOT have voice and data at same time.
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Mine does, but only when connected in 4G. And I believe advanced calling needs to be activated for it to work.
To echo above, the simultaneous works fine on the V20, even stock out of the box with no changes, but you have to be in a 4G LTE area to do it. If you drop to 3G, you lose that ability. Pretty sure it was the Thunderbolt that last had the option to do both in a 3G area , as was mentioned earlier. Only thing that I haven't tested, is switching. And by that, I mean, if you're in a 3G area on a call, and enter a 4G LTE coverage, if it'll pick that up while within the call, or if you have to hang up before it will switch over. My S6 wouldn't do it, and I really don't expect the V20 to either. Probably something with how the data is "turned off" in a manner when the call is made, so it probably isn't even actively hunting for a data signal until the call is over. I live in an area where I bounce between nothing, 3G, and 4G on my way to work, so I always had to make sure to toggle airplane mode off and on if I was just coming out of a spot where I was still picking up 3G but knew there was 4G there, so the phone would grab the better signal coming in, and then make my phone call to keep the data. So far, the V20 seems to be a touch quicker than my S6 was in the 3G/4G switchover though.
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Some are saying they cannot use data while on a voice call, yet some claim they can. The official VZW response is supposedly that it won't happen until the Advanced Calling 1.0 update "by the end of the year".
Would those of you with one in hand please confirm if this is different depending on which network type you are on. i.e. 3G, 4G LTE, or 4G XLTE?
I was ready to pick one up until I saw this since this is a very important ability for me. It's like it is 2008 all over. I'm pretty shocked they would release a device "temporarily" with less ability than the previous generation.
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No you can not
We'll have to wait just like the Moto X.
The Sony Z3v also can not do Simultaneous Voice+Data .
I wonder if the Nexus 6 will also have this issue?
Is this just 3G and data? I'm not understanding why u can't use 4G and talk at the same time.
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Is this just 3G and data? I'm not understanding why u can't use 4G and talk at the same time.
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From what I've read, the Moto X (2014) and the Droid Turbo share the antenna for the 3G and 4G radios opposed to previous generations to cut production costs. Older phones would use 3G to talk and 4G was used for data I believe. If you set an older 4G phone to LTE only, you couldn't make a phone call, but could surf the net. Until they update the software that administers VoLTE to handle data at the same time, we are stuck back in 2010.
You can't talk and use data at the same time, unless you are in a VoLTE market.
Ugh. My OG Moto X can do this. Think I'll just wait to get this until the VoLTE update.
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Wow...that is terrible. How do you launch a phone in Oct 2014 without a key function from 3 years ago???
So this mean I won't be able to use my navigation (Google maps / Waze) while talking on the phone?
Actually you can use voice and data at the same time... When using an AT&T sim card
It is only on 3G but will do voice and data. Until VoLTE for VZW this just won't happen.
Just to confirm. Few phones can do EVDO and 1XRTT Voice simultaneously (Rezound, Thunderbolt, S3(I think)), but every Verizon 4G phone to date that I am aware of can use LTE and 1XRTT simultaneously. It would be ridiculous to drop LTE when making a phone call!
Please tell me this thing can use LTE on a phone call.
No. There is no simultaneous voice+data. Unless you're connected to an active WiFi.
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Just to confirm. Few phones can do EVDO and 1XRTT Voice simultaneously (Rezound, Thunderbolt, S3(I think)), but every Verizon 4G phone to date that I am aware of can use LTE and 1XRTT simultaneously. It would be ridiculous to drop LTE when making a phone call!
Please tell me this thing can use LTE on a phone call.
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Nope. When on LTE, I made a phone call and the data went to grayed out 1x.
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You can't talk and use data at the same time, unless you are in a VoLTE market.
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Isn't it where both phones need to be Verizon VOLTE enabled and both parties need to be in Verizon VOLTE markets?
So lets say when the Droid Turbo gets VOLTE... can I talk & surf at the same time while calling my sister who is on AT&T? Or am I screwed unless she gets on Verizon and her area allows VOLTE?
I find this hard to believe.
Does this impact users outside US (and hence not on VZ network)?
I'm going to shoot myself. I cant believe I didnt check on this before ordering. Every phone I've had in the last few years starting with my old Thunderbolt could do simultanious voice/data using the different bands. I thought the issue was basically limited iphones.
They better enable the VoLTE and fast. I cant go too long without it. May have to return the phone and re-order once its been enabled. Its too important a feature for my daily business needs.
Yeah this is a key feature where I'm like WTF. Im gonna hold off for a bit and see what happens and pray the Nexus 6 won't be like this since its a phone that is designed to run on all carriers.
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Yeah this is a key feature where I'm like WTF. Im gonna hold off for a bit and see what happens and pray the Nexus 6 won't be like this since its a phone that is designed to run on all carriers.
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If the Moto X and DROID Turbo are like this, I bet the Nexus 6 will be as well, they are all very similar.
Well i was thinking that to but being that the nexus is a one device for all carriers unlike moto x and turbo i wondered if that antenna would be made the same.
Stolen from the comments on a long Droid Life thread about this exact thing:
Moto X 2nd Gen does not do voice/data. Z3v does not. Droid Turbo does not.
These can do LTE data and voice: DNA, Moto X (2013), S4, G2, One M8, S5, G3, Note 4. (and most other phones pre August 2014.)
Nexus 6: Don't know yet but not looking great.
Once VoLTE is enabled, how does it work? Will I be able to get voice and data with anyone as long as I am on LTE? Will it be limited to only other Verizon customers who also have VoLTE enabled? if it is the later, I need to convince a manger to let me return this phone, ie, it was a mistake to switch from the Note 4 if true.
If this is true I will get the pure edition otherwise Im getting the Verizon version.
It's false.
Definitely false! Verizon uses CDMA. The XT1095 only has GSM radio.
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Probably would work but only on 4G.
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Definitely won't make calls. I have an XT1095, and tried popping in the SIM from my VZW S3 (after cutting down with a sim cutter--sim confirmed to still work). No data network either. Might be possible by rooting, changing the APN, and then registering the IMEI with Verizon online. Otherwise, nope, the phone won't work on Verizon, even with an activated Verizon sim.
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Definitely won't make calls. I have an XT1095, and tried popping in the SIM from my VZW S3 (after cutting down with a sim cutter--sim confirmed to still work). No data network either. Might be possible by rooting, changing the APN, and then registering the IMEI with Verizon online. Otherwise, nope, the phone won't work on Verizon, even with an activated Verizon sim.
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No, it is not possible. XT1095 doesn't have CDMA radio.
Just picked one up from best buy for $269. I see the m8 gold is at 349... Loving these price drops!
No the pure will not work.
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No, it is not possible. XT1095 doesn't have CDMA radio.
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It's not the CDMA radio stopping you from getting LTE. CDMA only matters for phone calls, and even that will be passed out with VoLTE. The XT1095 supports most of Verizon's LTE bands, so in principle data service is possible. The way Verizon has their data network set up, though, it is not currently possible due the need for specific services to be activated on the network, and good luck convincing Verizon to activate a non-Verizon phone.
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It's not the CDMA radio stopping you from getting LTE. CDMA only matters for phone calls,
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I never said that it would stop you from getting LTE. However, if you are on Verizon, you need CDMA radios for your phone to work reliably as a phone. LOTS of places around my town have spotty Verizon LTE signals. Where I grocery shop, at the mall, inside my favorite restaurant - I drop down to 3G.
This is a common problem for many of us on Verizon's network as Verizon's network was constructed for the 850mHz CDMA to work well in terms of tower spacing. The spacing b/t Verizon's towers by and large is too far apart for LTE coverage to be great everywhere.
You are going off on a tangent - you can't have decent phone service on Verizon and not have a CDMA radio even if you could get the phone activated. And Verizon ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT WHITELIST A PHONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE A CDMA RADIO. WON'T HAPPEN SO IT IS RIDICULOUS TO EVEN SPECULATE ABOUT IT. And no whitelisted IMEI means no authentication to the Verizon network and no VoLTE/HD Calling. You could use the Hangouts dialer but you couldn't place an HD call through Verizon's VoLTE service.
Anyone else notice after the update, during calls your data will force down to H from LTE? Same issue with Nexus 5 and 6p.
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Anyone else notice after the update, during calls your data will force down to H from LTE? Same issue with Nexus 5 and 6p.
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Not an issue. Is a feature so that you can get better reception for your phone call.
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Not an issue. Is a feature so that you can get better reception for your phone call.
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Not true. LTE is the better reception for calls. Look up the difference in technology.
As for why and if the latest update drops when making calls... I haven't seen it myself so I can't comment.
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Not true. LTE is the better reception for calls. Look up the difference in technology.
As for why and if the latest update drops when making calls... I haven't seen it myself so I can't comment.
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Can you disconnect from WiFi, see if you get LTE, then make a call see what happens. This is after the latest update today.
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Not true. LTE is the better reception for calls. Look up the difference in technology.
As for why and if the latest update drops when making calls... I haven't seen it myself so I can't comment.
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2g gives better reception than 3g, 3g better than 4g and so on. LTE gives faster data speed but if you want better reception 2g it is.
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Which carrier. Unless you have VOLTE that has always happened.
I noticed the same thing on ATT. During a phone call the phone drops to H. This is not normal, my nexus 5 remains on LTE since I didn't upgrade that phone.
Curious if there's a fix for this.
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Can you disconnect from WiFi, see if you get LTE, then make a call see what happens. This is after the latest update today.
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While in a call I'm still on LTE. Yes I'm on the latest update.
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2g gives better reception than 3g, 3g better than 4g and so on. LTE gives faster data speed but if you want better reception 2g it is.
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I think you got it backwards. It may be true that in some areas 2G may give you a better signal strength than 3G but that has nothing to do with technology and the amount of data which can go through and that includes calls (yes calls are also data and has been for many years since it all went digital).
LTE is just another, newer standard of GSM for calls, text, data and so on.
Also, VoLTE is not the same as VoIP.
Not had any issues from the uk. I generally get 4g. The radios on this phone far suprass the ones on my old xperia Z2.
Anyway didn't i see a post saying that the update disabled a certain band for T-Mobile? Maybe it's to do with that
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Not had any issues from the uk. I generally get 4g.
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Did you read the thread?
The only network in the UK that supports VoLTE (calls while you are on a 4G network) is Three and they don't sell or support the Nexus 6P, so you certainly haven't been getting 4G while you are on a call.
Plain LTE does not support voice, it is only for data. When your phone receives a call it will automatically use H/3g or even 2g for your voice call. Unless your operator supports Voice over LTE (VoLTE)!
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Same thing. Though voice doesn't use LTE always. LTE is just for data.
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Plain LTE does not support voice, it is only for data. When your phone receives a call it will automatically use H/3g or even 2g for your voice call. Unless your operator supports Voice over LTE (VoLTE)!
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I'm not sure you guys understand how LTE works and what it is supposed to do. LTE is just another standard which is better than the old GSM type 3G. It's just that carriers chose to use it only for data because the entire infrastructure was already designed to work on 3G for voice. The transition to full LTE system is taking a bit long but watch when next year Verizon shuts down all 3G CDMA equipment and goes LTE only on the entire network.
T-Mobile will most likely follow along with all the others.
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I'm not sure you guys understand how LTE works and what it is supposed to do. LTE is just another standard which is better than the old GSM type 3G. It's just that carriers chose to use it only for data because the entire infrastructure was already designed to work on 3G for voice. The transition to full LTE system is taking a bit long but watch when next year Verizon shuts down all 3G CDMA equipment and goes LTE only on the entire network.
T-Mobile will most likely follow along with all the others.
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Please don't spread misinformation. LTE standard only supports packet switching so carriers have been using circuit switched fallback (i.e. 3g) for regular calls and we are now seeing operators moving to VoLTE.
Also LTE is based on GSM!
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Please don't spread misinformation. LTE standard only supports packet switching so carriers have been using circuit switched fallback (i.e. 3g) for regular calls and we are now seeing operators moving to VoLTE.
Also LTE is based on GSM!
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I'm not sure where the misinformation is.
The argument here is that the older systems are somehow better at voice than LTE is and one gets a better signal with 2G for being able to make a call. This is simply not true. LTE supports voice with the implementation of VoLTE and is much superior at handling it. More capacity, clearer calls and better quality calls with much weaker signal strength.
Again, carriers chose to implement it as data only because of many older handsets still out there using 2G/3G. But this will not be for long because LTE is much more efficient which spells $$$ for carriers. Verizon has already started turning off their legacy CDMA system on some towers.
Also, when did I say LTE was not based on GSM?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/VoLTE
I understand that volte is not supported on the 6p when it comes to using at&t.
How is the quality of calls when it comes to being dropped to 3g or h+? Right now I have T-Mobile and I like them but their coverage is struggle in my area especially at work and I'm extremely thinking about switching to at&t. The only thing holding me back is volte which sucks. I dont care much about wifi calling as I don't even use it currently with T-Mobile. Can you at least surf the web while on a call? Obviously not over LTE but over 3g/h± ? Thanks
1. Calls are no different in quality for me. I had a AT&T branded note 4 with volte.
2. Yes i can surf the web while on a phone call on 3g/H/H+. The only ones that can't are cdma carriers. Verizon/sprint and any of their mvno's.
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I understand that volte is not supported on the 6p when it comes to using at&t.
How is the quality of calls when it comes to being dropped to 3g or h+? Right now I have T-Mobile and I like them but their coverage is struggle in my area especially at work and I'm extremely thinking about switching to at&t. The only thing holding me back is volte which sucks. I dont care much about wifi calling as I don't even use it currently with T-Mobile. Can you at least surf the web while on a call? Obviously not over LTE but over 3g/h± ? Thanks
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I'm not sure about how it works on at&t but on Verizon volte works great. I can be on a phone call and surf the web over LTE. If you're not in a good service area it can be annoying because it will drop calls when you lose LTE service and go to 3g and obviously volte doesn't work on 3g. I live in a major city so this really isn't an issue for me for the most part.
I also came from a ATT branded Note 4 on ATT. VOLTE stopped the second the 6p booted with the ATT SImcard. I had no issues with non-volte voice quality, And Voice+data has always worked with ATT's GSM network. I did end up switching to Verizon simply for VOLTE. Along with the other VOLTE features. Like the faster dialing..etc.
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I also came from a ATT branded Note 4 on ATT. VOLTE stopped the second the 6p booted with the ATT SImcard. I had no issues with non-volte voice quality, And Voice+data has always worked with ATT's GSM network. I did end up switching to Verizon simply for VOLTE. Along with the other VOLTE features. Like the faster dialing..etc.
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You swapped to VZW just for VoLTE?
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You swapped to VZW just for VoLTE?
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Honestly, It was the faster dialing. (From the time you hit dial to the time it's actually ringing)
I'm an engineer for an Internet/Phone provider. And do a lot of test dials from my cell phone. Waiting ~10 seconds for the call to actually reach 180 progress was bugging me. ATT's HD voice switch did the same call in ~1sec, Just as VZW does. Sounds petty, I know. But it was driving me crazy.
So anyone know how to enable wifi calling and hd voice using 6P on AT&T?
I have the Moto G7, I previously had it on MetroPCS and now on Sprint.
When I was on Metro I was able to do voice/data at the same time but Sprint says this phone isn't capable of this. Granted Metro is GSM and Sprint is CDMA so that may make a difference, but from what I've read VoLTE is working with Verizon on the G7. I've explained to Sprint that the phone itself is capable but I'm not getting any further than that. I tried *#*#4636#*#* and I'm unable to change the flag for LTE Provisioned on this menu. Is there anyway to make changes in this menu that are currently grayed out?
So, is there any type of work-around to get VoLTE working with Sprint or is this something I can only wait for Sprint to address...which will probably never happen?
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I have the Moto G7, I previously had it on MetroPCS and now on Sprint.
When I was on Metro I was able to do voice/data at the same time but Sprint says this phone isn't capable of this. Granted Metro is GSM and Sprint is CDMA so that may make a difference, but from what I've read VoLTE is working with Verizon on the G7. I've explained to Sprint that the phone itself is capable but I'm not getting any further than that. I tried *#*#4636#*#* and I'm unable to change the flag for LTE Provisioned on this menu. Is there anyway to make changes in this menu that are currently grayed out?
So, is there any type of work-around to get VoLTE working with Sprint or is this something I can only wait for Sprint to address...which will probably never happen?
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I believe it is a Sprint specific issue and has been the case since the beginning. Sprints CDMA does not support voice and data at the same time. I don't think it has anything to do with the phone end of things.
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I believe it is a Sprint specific issue and has been the case since the beginning. Sprints CDMA does not support voice and data at the same time. I don't think it has anything to do with the phone end of things.
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Thanks for the reply.
Sprint does support voice/data now, although it's only for certain devices that I guess they decide can use the feature. They're really odd about what they let use VoLTE though. For example I have a co-worker with a Samsung Note8 and he turned on VoLTE and can now have Voice/Data together. Another co-worker with a Samsung S9 can't turn on VoLTE at all like with my phone. So I'm not sure what they're basing the compatibility on.