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Need some help here:
I need to delete some of the backups I made with CWM recovery. I already have them backed up onto my PC, but need to delete them to make some room. For some reason I cant.
Ive tried root explorer, es file explorer, and my PC. Im unable to change the permissions of the files, and if you look at the pics I attached youll see they have some strange permissions, but I cant change them.
I am able to move the files anywhere else in the sd card folder, rename them, but no matter what I cant delete them. And when I try from my PC it shows them disappear, but they are actually still there.
If there is a way to format the sd card folder I will, but thats not an option in the settings, or CWM. Can someone please help me out here? This is really frustrating me. Thanks
No issues here when I delete backups using ROM Toolbox.
UnknownFearNG said:
No issues here when I delete backups using ROM Toolbox.
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I tried through ROM Toolbox and still couldnt delete them.
Gam3r 4 Life said:
I tried through ROM Toolbox and still couldnt delete them.
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Same, tried with multiple apps too.
I posted this in the other thread, but figured I would do so here in case other people needed the "fix".
Ok, so some good news and some bad news.
The good news is, I was able to put together a flashable zip that WILL DELETE the entire CWM backup directory from the sdcard. It is available here:
http://core.routed.com/CWM_Backup_Wipe.zip
You simply need to flash it via CWM. Easy peasy. I confirmed that the directory/files were all removed, AND the storage space is now available for other files (I checked df before and after).
The bad news is, before attempting to delete the directory, I first tried changing the permissions (recursively) to see if that was a better "fix" for this problem. Unfortunately, even with the directory 777 and the files 666, I still could not manually delete them through the system. Which means, whatever bug is causing this problem is much more severe than a file/directory permission thing.
In any case, until the CWM developer can figure out a way to fix this bug, at least we have a way to manually remove the backups and get our storage space back.
The script in the zip is very simple. It just does a recursive delete on /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup.
Enjoy!
phonic said:
I posted this in the other thread, but figured I would do so here in case other people needed the "fix".
Ok, so some good news and some bad news.
The good news is, I was able to put together a flashable zip that WILL DELETE the entire CWM backup directory from the sdcard. It is available here:
http://core.routed.com/CWM_Backup_Wipe.zip
You simply need to flash it via CWM. Easy peasy. I confirmed that the directory/files were all removed, AND the storage space is now available for other files (I checked df before and after).
The bad news is, before attempting to delete the directory, I first tried changing the permissions (recursively) to see if that was a better "fix" for this problem. Unfortunately, even with the directory 777 and the files 666, I still could not manually delete them through the system. Which means, whatever bug is causing this problem is much more severe than a file/directory permission thing.
In any case, until the CWM developer can figure out a way to fix this bug, at least we have a way to manually remove the backups and get our storage space back.
The script in the zip is very simple. It just does a recursive delete on /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup.
Enjoy!
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Just saying thanks for this, I hope they figure a fix out soon. Flash worked perfectly, for some storage space back. :good:
I am not rooted.
I have researched and every time someone talks about this topic they start refering to doing things in root. I am a Linux user specifically a Linux Mint 13 KDE. However! I don't work with the terminal and have not since my DOS days, nor do I want to. IMO I'm too old to bother with it.
Now I use ES File Explorer as my file browser and I see there seems to be a duplication of almost everything on my device yet there is not enough room on the Nexus 4 16GB to hold 2 of everything I have loaded onto it.
So I assume the extra stuff I see are sym-links (I don't realy understand what they are just that they are not real). Am I correct?
Why when an app looks for duplicates does it show the stuff in /storage/emulated/legacy etc. and in /storage/emulated/0 etc. and report them as the same size?
Why am I allowed to create a folder in /storage/emulated/0 or /storage/emulated/legacy if they just contain sym-links? IMO I should not have access to those folders without being rooted.
Why when I add a folder in /storage/emulated/0 or /storage/emulated/legacy does it show up in /sdcard?
donec said:
I use ES File Explorer as my file browser and I see there seems to be a duplication of almost everything on my device yet there is not enough room on the Nexus 4 16GB to hold 2 of everything I have loaded onto it.
So I assume the extra stuff I see are sym-links (I don't realy understand what they are just that they are not real). Am I correct?
Why when an app looks for duplicates does it show the stuff in /storage/emulated/legacy etc. and in /storage/emulated/0 etc. and report them as the same size?
Why am I allowed to create a folder in /storage/emulated/0 or /storage/emulated/legacy if they just contain sym-links? IMO I should not have access to those folders without being rooted.
Why when I add a folder in /storage/emulated/0 or /storage/emulated/legacy does it show up in /sdcard?
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I was going to post a simpler version of this question: Why do I have [Android 4.2.2 on a Nexus 7] /storage/emulated/0/, /storage/emulated/legacy/, and /storage/sdcard0/ when they seem to have exactly the same contents? When, if I create something in /storage/emulated/0/ it's duplicated in the other two locations?
But I noticed this thread and decided to check it out. I am shocked that it'' gotten no response in five months.
Eric Weir said:
I was going to post a simpler version of this question: Why do I have [Android 4.2.2 on a Nexus 7] /storage/emulated/0/, /storage/emulated/legacy/, and /storage/sdcard0/ when they seem to have exactly the same contents? When, if I create something in /storage/emulated/0/ it's duplicated in the other two locations?
But I noticed this thread and decided to check it out. I am shocked that it'' gotten no response in five months.
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They are basically the same thing. 2 mount points pointing to the same storage device and partition.
If you create something in one folder, it will show up in the other. Same applies for deleting stuff.
They do not take away more storage space, as it is only available once but shown twice.
You also don't need to worry about it in any way because file browsers normally set their default directory to one of these locations.
As far as i know, Google changed the mount points in Android 4.2 to /storage/emulated/0/ due to them switching to MTP and EXT4(?) for the sdcard. The other mount points are still there for compatibility.
Don't quote me on that, though.
They changed it for multi-user feature
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Can I delete "legacy"
Nuu~ said:
They are basically the same thing. 2 mount points pointing to the same storage device and partition.
If you create something in one folder, it will show up in the other. Same applies for deleting stuff.
They do not take away more storage space, as it is only available once but shown twice.
You also don't need to worry about it in any way because file browsers normally set their default directory to one of these locations.
As far as i know, Google changed the mount points in Android 4.2 to /storage/emulated/0/ due to them switching to MTP and EXT4(?) for the sdcard. The other mount points are still there for compatibility.
Don't quote me on that, though.
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Can I delete the legacy folder without harming anything?
DEFI4NT said:
Can I delete the legacy folder without harming anything?
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Did you read the post that you quoted ?
"If you create something in one folder, it will show up in the other. Same applies for deleting stuff."
DEFI4NT said:
Can I delete the legacy folder without harming anything?
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Why would you even want to delete it in the first place? You wouldn't be gaining anything is just another mount point.
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/storage, /sdcard are sym linked folders,that means when you open one of those, it redirects to the original(/data/media/0), as for the 0 is just a multi user feature implemented in android 4.2, but only enabled on tablet androids.
Why do this Sym-Link?: simple so it dosent break apps(not only file explorer type of app, but all apps).
Still dont get, why it would break?.Simple. android api have lots of ways to write/read files from folders, u can do manually,u can get the data path, u can get the sdcard path, etc,etc. so to not break that they just does these sym links, thats why in one app the storage contentents are listed on /sdcard but on others, is /storage, etc,etc. one example of an app that broke because of these changes to android is titanium backup, u need to change the internal storage on it, so it work.
Are they really symlinks?
I want to make sure that they are sym linked files/ folders and not additional copies as it will directly impact the storage.
Emulated storage is the only reason i have not upgraded yet to Android 4.4 yet, despite ROMs being available ages ago..
1. Please let me know for confirmation, if there is no impact on storage space.
2. Can Link2SD be used in 4.4 with emulated storage?
3. If there is a file and its sym link/ copy; are the rights equally assigned to both files/ folders?
I mean to ask if there is a provision to have root previlege on the original file and read only rights on the sym link ? Is it possible??
the main reason for this question is that, if by mistake i do something on the sym lilnk, it should not affect the original file.
and whatever change i wish to operate on, i can do it on the original file itself.
Regards
Dwipen
opssemnik said:
/storage, /sdcard are sym linked folders,that means when you open one of those, it redirects to the original(/data/media/0), as for the 0 is just a multi user feature implemented in android 4.2, but only enabled on tablet androids.
Why do this Sym-Link?: simple so it dosent break apps(not only file explorer type of app, but all apps).
Still dont get, why it would break?.Simple. android api have lots of ways to write/read files from folders, u can do manually,u can get the data path, u can get the sdcard path, etc,etc. so to not break that they just does these sym links, thats why in one app the storage contentents are listed on /sdcard but on others, is /storage, etc,etc. one example of an app that broke because of these changes to android is titanium backup, u need to change the internal storage on it, so it work.
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dwipen said:
I want to make sure that they are sym linked files/ folders and not additional copies as it will directly impact the storage.
Emulated storage is the only reason i have not upgraded yet to Android 4.4 yet, despite ROMs being available ages ago..
1. Please let me know for confirmation, if there is no impact on storage space.
2. Can Link2SD be used in 4.4 with emulated storage?
3. If there is a file and its sym link/ copy; are the rights equally assigned to both files/ folders?
I mean to ask if there is a provision to have root previlege on the original file and read only rights on the sym link ? Is it possible??
the main reason for this question is that, if by mistake i do something on the sym lilnk, it should not affect the original file.
and whatever change i wish to operate on, i can do it on the original file itself.
Regards
Dwipen
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1- impact? no they are like .ink files in windows
2- yes link2sd works
3- the permissions are the same
maybe someone here can explain whats going on
So my phone seems to have two systems (or probably more) running and it IS using up my memory. See attached photos. I own a 32gb Optimus G pro. Rooted and custom recovery. Beeen trying out a few ROMs. Well somehow I noticed that there is some kind of ghost app/system using up my memory. I only use 7.36 of my sd card (internal). Yet I only have 6gb of memory left. And I just noticed my calendar has double the entries.
Is there a fix??? Or do I have to reflash stock kitkat???
What happened? The only irregular thing that happened is when I was restoring a nandroid backup I fell asleep and woke up 3 hours later and noticed that somehow the phone was making another backup. Could that be the cause. Restoring doesn't fix this. What can I do?
I can't rfactory reset since I have a custom recovery. Doing it in the custom recovery has no effect.
Oh and I did flash freegee's cwm over hoangnova's cwm. Someone told me to update cwm through freegee because I couldn't flash any custom roms.
I have similar problem.
liovag said:
Hello,
I have order Meizu m1 note 32 gb version blue color from fastcardtech.com and i have received a couple of days ago. Today i notice that in storage menu, the file system holds 17.13GB
The phone is unrooted.
How is this possible, I am very disappointed, and frustrated.
This is a big thing. I have pay for 32GB version and i suspect that they fraud me.
Also i have connect the phone via usb to my pc and i saw that the total size is only 11,9GB and not 32.
Also i have install to the phone the ES File Explorer to check the storage capacity and i saw that the phone have 11.94 GB Total capacity and not 32 i suspect that you have change something to the phone software. to look 32gb but actually is only 16GB version. This is fraud.
I have make factory reset with erasing data and upgrade the system but remains the same. :/
Please give me your advice.
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Imagine a HOUSE. The house = the storage location. Everything in it is your data... furniture etc. These are your files.
storage location \legacy = the back door.
storage location \0 = the front door.
If you delete a file = take your chair and throw it in the yard. Its gone from the house no matter if you entered the front door or back door.
yes, it consumes double storage!
I also have the same observation. Whatever the explaination from previous replies, it consumes my storage double! And it hurts if you only have 8 GB internal storage in my Moto G.
X-plore app can show the storage mapping in my root folder.
What we need now is a solution how to avoid this double storage consumption.
So, we have two identical houses, instead of one house with two doors!
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I also have the same observation. Whatever the explaination from previous replies, it consumes my storage double! And it hurts if you only have 8 GB internal storage in my Moto G.
X-plore app can show the storage mapping in my root folder.
What we need now is a solution how to avoid this double storage consumption.
So, we have two identical houses, instead of one house with two doors!
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I completely understood the analogy about the house and furniture but it does not answer the above question.
Why does it reflect as double the amount of storage being used if it is technically one spot. Its not like its one spot with different files, its one spot with duplicate paths of ONE file that are somehow reflecting as double files, using double the amount of space.
Sorry I'm trying my best to explain and work logic into this lol
II've been trying to change the destination file for utorrent on my android from storage/emulated/legacy to storage/external_SD, for some reason when I do this utorrent says "file not found", and will only download to storage/emulated/legacy, can anyone help with this? It would be greatly appreciated
I'm in need of updating certain apps to my phone but can't because of insufficient storage. How can I and what can I delete to create this much needed space without deleting my important things?
Try Clean Master.
You should post your questions in Q&A section btw.
marioc89 said:
I'm in need of updating certain apps to my phone but can't because of insufficient storage. How can I and what can I delete to create this much needed space without deleting my important things?
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Clear Cache files, Temporary files .
go to
/sdcard/DCIM
On DCIM turn on hidden items.
Now delete .tumbnails its more than 1GB file & its no uses.
Do you mean go to settings and the storage and click on cache and empty?
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Do you mean go to settings and the storage and click on cache and empty?
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No, download ES FILE MANAGER from playstore and turn on hidden items the delete .tumbnails lacated at DCIM folder .
SCREEN SHOTS
But that's the thing. I can't download anything else because of insufficient storage. That's what I'm trying to clear up so I can download my updates at least.
OK. I downloaded it. Thought I wasn't going to be able to though. But, those thumbnails are pics that I want. Will I erase those too? What exactly is a thumbnail or what am I really erasing?
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OK. I downloaded it. Thought I wasn't going to be able to though. But, those thumbnails are pics that I want. Will I erase those too? What exactly is a thumbnail or what am I really erasing?
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Thumbnail are not original image file they are made when you open gallery & other image explore the small image (thumbnails) are saved for next time open faster.
I was deleted many times , and i can't find important it.
OK.
Thanks for y'all's help thus far and I was able to download some updates for my apps. Is there anything else I can do to create more space right now without buying anything?
marioc89 said:
Thanks for y'all's help thus far and I was able to download some updates for my apps. Is there anything else I can do to create more space right now without buying anything?
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Clean cache with CCleaner or Clean Master, it will free up a few hundred MBs, you can do it regularly (twice a week or something)
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So, instead of downloading another app to clean, can es cleaner can do it since I already have it?
I have tried to deodexed my a510f. The phone can save lots of memory. In my phone, i also install lots of apks, however, the phone's storage still be free much.
Here, are there some pictures. The phone is still smooth.
Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_nI-GQLy-sFWUE2eTZMTVNVd3M/view?usp=docslist_api
You just download, extract and you have 2 folders. Enter to recovery, mount system, go to advance menu, file manager to copy the folders you just downloaded and paste to the system. App folder will replace for apps folders of the phone. Priv-app will replace for priv-app. After copy, you must set permission for the folders you just replaced (in file manager of recovery).
Remember to copy the original folder (app and priv-app) as a backup. If you have some apps force closed, you can replace them again with original folders.
Hope you to succeed.
Would appreciate if you can share how did you deodexed you a5100! I did search for information about the device but it's a new device so not much can be found!
Okay. I will pack these apk into a zip file and i will send for all of users of a510. You need to use custom recovery to replace the original apks. That is all. Simple.
But, now, i am quite busy, please wait for some days.
RAM is system memory. This is not the same as storage space.
I am confused
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RAM is system memory. This is not the same as storage space.
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Not ram, internal storage for phone apps. But because i cannot edit the title of the threat. Sorry for that
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Not ram, internal storage for phone apps. But because i cannot edit the title of the threat. Sorry for that
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You can edit the title if you click advanced in a browser.
Link has been added. Including the guide.
I have no much time, so i cannot help you to do everything. Try to study and do this yourself. It is not diffucult for everyone.
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Link has been added. Including the guide.
I have no much time, so i cannot help you to do everything. Try to study and do this yourself. It is not diffucult for everyone.
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Interesting . unfortunately it's for lolli.
I have the 8GB/256GB direct from OnePlus and looking at the system partition size see it is 2.7GB and almost full. OOS is 9.0.5
Does OOS and OP6T have a fixed system size or does it resize according to needs when flashing?
btb55 said:
I have the 8GB/256GB direct from OnePlus and looking at the system partition size see it is 2.7GB and almost full. OOS is 9.0.5
Does OOS and OP6T have a fixed system size or does it resize according to needs when flashing?
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Did you ever find any info about this? I have the same config, barely used the phone for 1 day and only have 54MB free
The system partition does seem a bit tight. 've got about 60 mb free.
Looks like priv-apps, where OP has put their own bloat, is taking up most of the space that could be deemed useless.
A "community" debloater script could be useful, I'm thinking.
Gaining place in system partition is irrelevant as by definition the it's reserved for system apps you don't gain anything for your personal apps located in /data partition. This one is dynamic and adapts itself.
Debloat is only interesting if you want to get rid of unused system apps eventually, more a cosmetic goal.
54.5mb left in system for me, running 9.0.6 here. Now how the hell OP can fill a nearly 3GB partition with an Android build is beyond me. That's a lot of bloat!
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54.5mb for me, I'm running 9.0.6. How the hell OP can fill a nearly 3GB partition with and Android build is beyond me! That's a lot of bloat!
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Gaining place in system partition is irrelevant as by definition the it's reserved for system apps you don't gain anything for your personal apps located in /data partition. This one is dynamic and adapts itself.
Debloat is only interesting if you want to get rid of unused system apps eventually, more a cosmetic goal.
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True, though there is some merit in lessening clutter.
H4X0R46 said:
54.5mb for me, I'm running 9.0.6. How the hell OP can fill a nearly 3GB partition with and Android build is beyond me! That's a lot of bloat!
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On a positive note, there is not much space left to add more bloatware
H4X0R46 said:
54.5mb left in system for me, running 9.0.6 here. Now how the hell OP can fill a nearly 3GB partition with an Android build is beyond me. That's a lot of bloat!
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54.5mb for me, I'm running 9.0.6. How the hell OP can fill a nearly 3GB partition with and Android build is beyond me! That's a lot of bloat!
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Wouldn't that system partition be for both A & B slots so it's really 1.4GB or so for the ROM? That falls inline with what the full ROM update sizes are (and typically have been for the last few OP devices). :good:
Nosferatu. said:
Wouldn't that system partition be for both A & B slots so it's really 1.4GB or so for the ROM? That falls inline with what the full ROM update sizes are (and typically have been for the last few OP devices). :good:
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I thought Diskinfo showed only the mounted system? I might be wrong though! It does make more sense since a 3GB rom installation seems overkill!
I just updated to the latest 9.0.15 and Solid Explorer says "0 B free of 2.71 GB" for the root partition. Unable to use many of my apps that need to push something in the system partition, it says no space left.
Has there been any workaround for this? I've got really less apps installed and I remember nice amount of space left before upgrading.
Paresh Kalinani said:
I just updated to the latest 9.0.15 and Solid Explorer says "0 B free of 2.71 GB" for the root partition. Unable to use many of my apps that need to push something in the system partition, it says no space left.
Has there been any workaround for this? I've got really less apps installed and I remember nice amount of space left before upgrading.
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Bro, I too faced the same problem when I flashed the latest 9.0.15 rom first. I am rooted and wanted to chnage the hosts file, but total commander and other files managers like ES, EZ all gave an error that /system has not enough memory. Then I thought of reflashing the same rom again as I did earlier, and things worked out fine. I was able to edit the hosts file and save it. I was able to mount it. But still I just have 7 mb left of 2.71 GB. I don't know the exact reason for this :/
Yep same here, glad others are seeing this, not glad any of us are. Hoping for a solution soon.
Paresh Kalinani said:
I just updated to the latest 9.0.15 and Solid Explorer says "0 B free of 2.71 GB" for the root partition. Unable to use many of my apps that need to push something in the system partition, it says no space left.
Has there been any workaround for this? I've got really less apps installed and I remember nice amount of space left before upgrading.
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Same here. Was gonna post a screenshot, but it looks like everyone is becoming aware of the issue.
Just an fyi, I tried deleting a few things like icon pack apks to see if it would free up space. Diskinfo shows it still full but titanium backup says I have 6.7 mb free. I thought that was enough space for my adaway hosts file to work, but it still says my storage is full.
blockhead428 said:
Just an fyi, I tried deleting a few things like icon pack apks to see if it would free up space. Diskinfo shows it still full but titanium backup says I have 6.7 mb free. I thought that was enough space for my adaway hosts file to work, but it still says my storage is full.
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Friend of mine having the same problem after updating yesterday.. hope we get a solution quick
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I was able to free some space using Solid Explorer. I tried uninstall with Titanium Backup and while it says "successful" it is not. Reboot phone app is still there.
I removed Google Play Movies using Solid Explorer. Rebooted phone. Had free space, patched the host file, done. Still have a couple MB free after such.
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I was able to free some space using Solid Explorer. I tried uninstall with Titanium Backup and while it says "successful" it is not. Reboot phone app is still there.
I removed Google Play Movies using Solid Explorer. Rebooted phone. Had free space, patched the host file, done. Still have a couple MB free after such.
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I moved some things around in the system/reserve folder. It has OnePlus apps in it. I moved the whole folder, changed my font with ifont and did the adaway, but I couldn't move the folder back due to space. I remade the folder and moved most of the apps back, but couldn't move everything. I left out the icon packs and a few other things. I wonder if I can just reinstall those apks if I really want the apps? So far, I haven't noticed any issues. I still have enough space available for these apps, but I guess Android won't let them move due to space.
Just updated to OB14 and the system storage is FULL!
Nosferatu. said:
I was able to free some space using Solid Explorer. I tried uninstall with Titanium Backup and while it says "successful" it is not. Reboot phone app is still there.
I removed Google Play Movies using Solid Explorer. Rebooted phone. Had free space, patched the host file, done. Still have a couple MB free after such.
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How do you uninstall with solid explorer? I'm new to it. Do you go in the list of system apps, select the app, and hit delete?
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How do you uninstall with solid explorer? I'm new to it. Do you go in the list of system apps, select the app, and hit delete?
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Go to root folder.
Then go to System and then App.
Find the folder for the app you want to delete (I removed Google Play Movies which is in a folder labelled "Video").
(optional but recommend copy the folder somewhere on your regular partition (e.g. any of your normal folders like downloads, twrp, etc.)
Then delete the APK in the folder. I kept the folder in case I want to add it back I'd remember what it was called.
Reboot phone.
Enjoy the free space.