The guys who brought us sunshine for HTC devices just released their bootloader unlock tool for those of us with Verizon Pixels. YAY!
Check it out here http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html
Sweet, will do it in the morning for sure.
Works perfectly first try. Wonderful news.
Few questions.
Does this do a wipe on the phone?
Will this allow you to flash stock images from google with no issues and remain unlocked?
If you unlock it and then relock it(without flashing the stock image from google), does it stay unlockable without exploit?
qwer777 said:
If you unlock it and then relock it(without flashing the stock image from google), does it stay unlockable without exploit?
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No. If you unlock the bootloader, you need to leave it unlocked. Otherwise you will need to re "dePixel8". No matter if you flash one of the google factory images or stay with your current build. The toggle will be greyed out the moment that you connect to the internet.
Also, word is the exploit will be patched in the November security patch. So there is a time frame on this (November 7th). You can also disable automatic updates if you aren't sure whether you want to do this in order to give yourself a little more time to decide.
Is there a way to do this without wiping user data?
SophieTurner said:
Is there a way to do this without wiping user data?
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Unfortunately no. Unlocking or locking the bootloader wipes user data. Its a security feature. This is how all Pixel / Nexus phones have been for a while now.
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No. If you unlock the bootloader, you need to leave it unlocked. Otherwise you will need to re "dePixel8". No matter if you flash one of the google factory images or stay with your current build. The toggle will be greyed out the moment that you connect to the internet.
Also, word is the exploit will be patched in the November security patch. So there is a time frame on this (November 7th). You can also disable automatic updates if you aren't sure whether you want to do this in order to give yourself a little more time to decide.
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Alright. Thanks so much for the info! I'm guessing they're tying the lock to the IMEI then.
Could one unlock the bootloader on the Verizon variant, flash the stock Google firmware and receive OTA updates from Google? In other words, converting the phone to the unlocked version software wise.
darabo said:
Could one unlock the bootloader on the Verizon variant, flash the stock Google firmware and receive OTA updates from Google? In other words, converting the phone to the unlocked version software wise.
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I want to know about this as well!
Also could Verizon become aware if their uses did this and retaliate by shutting off service due to violating terms or something?
deesugar said:
I want to know about this as well!
Also could Verizon become aware if their uses did this and retaliate by shutting off service due to violating terms or something?
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They have never done this for other devices that have had their bootloaders unlocked, so I doubt it.
deesugar said:
I want to know about this as well!
Also could Verizon become aware if their uses did this and retaliate by shutting off service due to violating terms or something?
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I highly doubt they'd go as far as shutting down one's service. Jailbreaking and modifying one's device has been deemed legal by the US Supreme Court IIRC, it's your own property to do what you wish after all.
Now if you were to hack Verizon's servers directly for some reason then that'd be a completely different story...
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I highly doubt they'd go as far as shutting down one's service. Jailbreaking and modifying one's device has been deemed legal by the US Supreme Court IIRC, it's your own property to do what you wish after all.
Now if you were to hack Verizon's servers directly for some reason then that'd be a completely different story...
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Alright so I guess the remaining question is can you flash the stock Google firmware and receive OTA updates from Google? Thereby turning your Verizon phone into a Google Store version with no issues?
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No. If you unlock the bootloader, you need to leave it unlocked. Otherwise you will need to re "dePixel8". No matter if you flash one of the google factory images or stay with your current build. The toggle will be greyed out the moment that you connect to the internet.
Also, word is the exploit will be patched in the November security patch. So there is a time frame on this (November 7th). You can also disable automatic updates if you aren't sure whether you want to do this in order to give yourself a little more time to decide.
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They are backorder for me until the 12/9 wonder what version they will ship with.
JustusIV said:
They are backorder for me until the 12/9 wonder what version they will ship with.
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It will almost certainly ship with the October security patch. The kicker is the phone will check for updates as soon as you sign in and connect to the internet. I don't know if it will force the update or if it will just notify you that there is one.... And I don't think you can boot the phone up without a sim on the first boot to get around this. I think it requires and internet connection to get through the setup.
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Alright so I guess the remaining question is can you flash the stock Google firmware and receive OTA updates from Google? Thereby turning your Verizon phone into a Google Store version with no issues?
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Negative. You cannot turn a Verizon phone into a Google phone.
They are the same phone. The difference is a server side switch that is being made. Maybe there is an IMEI database with all of the Verizon phones or something similar. As soon as your phone connects to the internet, it will check and confirm that its in that database and the "OEM unlocking" toggle will be grayed out, no matter what Google factory image you are on.
The beginning and the end is the OEM unlock toggle. dePixel8 is just forcing the switch so that you can unlock the bootloader. If you flash a new image or just reboot you will see that the toggle will be flipped, but it was still be grayed out.
If you want an unlocked bootloader, unlock it and leave it unlocked. If you don't care or want to stay stock, leave it alone.
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It will almost certainly ship with the October security patch. The kicker is the phone will check for updates as soon as you sign in and connect to the internet. I don't know if it will force the update or if it will just notify you that there is one.... And I don't think you can boot the phone up without a sim on the first boot to get around this. I think it requires and internet connection to get through the setup.
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Negative. You cannot turn a Verizon phone into a Google phone.
They are the same phone. The difference is a server side switch that is being made. Maybe there is an IMEI database with all of the Verizon phones or something similar. As soon as your phone connects to the internet, it will check and confirm that its in that database and the "OEM unlocking" toggle will be grayed out, no matter what Google factory image you are on.
The beginning and the end is the OEM unlock toggle. dePixel8 is just forcing the switch so that you can unlock the bootloader. If you flash a new image or just reboot you will see that the toggle will be flipped, but it was still be grayed out.
If you want an unlocked bootloader, unlock it and leave it unlocked. If you don't care or want to stay stock, leave it alone.
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Where are you getting this information?
cambunch said:
Where are you getting this information?
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Jcase comments on the Pixel XL forum, other Pixel XL forum comments, my own device / experience. I have a Pixel 128gb from Verizon.
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I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
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I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
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So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
DubleJayJ said:
So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
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You will most certainly be able to unlock the phone with the latest update using either cellzealots method or mine, but the bootloader will remain locked disabling the ability to use custom roms. If you get one on the 98.17.66 (?) Software your good to use Matt's Droid RAZR M Utility to unlock the bootloader yet so dont take the update, unlock the bl and do what youd like
DubleJayJ said:
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Root works fine still using the RAZR M Utility
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
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So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
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Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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Too bad you aren't closer to Reading, I could really use the business at my shop lol
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Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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I have both to play with and I have to say I like the feel and size of the RAZR M moreso over the bulk of the HD. won over my Galaxy Nexus which hates me now lol
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
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Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
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Its a great little thing, I have people playing with them in my office all the time even my boss and hes an iFart lover
4.4.4 appeared on my Verizon Prepaid Moto G this morning. Soak test is over.
Reckoning said:
4.4.4 appeared on my Verizon Prepaid Moto G this morning. Soak test is over.
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So what are the changes? I know there is more than just camera quality and pausing videos. they lock down anything? 4.3 to 4.4 took away my tethering and a few other things. what did they lock this time
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So what are the changes? I know there is more than just camera quality and pausing videos. they lock down anything? 4.3 to 4.4 took away my tethering and a few other things. what did they lock this time
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Haven't had a chance to check yet. At first glance the only thing I've noticed is it seems a little quicker.
Does this re-lock the bootloader if you paid for the unlock code?
Reckoning said:
Haven't had a chance to check yet. At first glance the only thing I've noticed is it seems a little quicker.
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Dat Windows Phone Dialer
Dadud said:
Does this re-lock the bootloader if you paid for the unlock code?
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My phone's not unlocked, I have no idea.
Reckoning said:
My phone's not unlocked, I have no idea.
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wasnt able to install it, even after reverting to stock firmware through fastboot flash files.
Edit: tried it one last time, got it to sucessfully install, running 4.4.4 now
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Does this re-lock the bootloader if you paid for the unlock code?
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I'm also interested in this. Though, I may just wait, and use this opportunity to flash a stable 4.4.4 based ROM instead. Don't want to lose root or bootloader unlock.
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I'm also interested in this. Though, I may just wait, and use this opportunity to flash a stable 4.4.4 based ROM instead. Don't want to lose root or bootloader unlock.
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It's safe. Rooted on 4.4.4 with a custom recovery again.
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It's safe. Rooted on 4.4.4 with a custom recovery again.
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What is safe? You mean it is safe to revert back to stock (and take the xt1028 4.4.4 update) and still not lose root or have bootloader locked again?
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What is safe? You mean it is safe to revert back to stock (and take the xt1028 4.4.4 update) and still not lose root or have bootloader locked again?
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I've looked everywhere to try to find how to unlock and root. Can you show me where you found out how to do this and does it still stay prepaid if you do?
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I've looked everywhere to try to find how to unlock and root. Can you show me where you found out how to do this and does it still stay prepaid if you do?
Sent from my LG-D850
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See my post (#923) on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177/post54076489
And yes, it is still prepaid after unlocking.
Hope this helps.
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classic757 said:
See my post (#923) on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177/post54076489
And yes, it is still prepaid after unlocking.
Hope this helps.
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When the new cell unlock law goes into effect Motorola should have to give out unlock codes for the XT1028..
I Doubt it. Seeing as the Moto G was manufactured before the law went into effect.
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What is safe? You mean it is safe to revert back to stock (and take the xt1028 4.4.4 update) and still not lose root or have bootloader locked again?
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you'll lose root but its not hard to get it back.
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I Doubt it. Seeing as the Moto G was manufactured before the law went into effect.
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I read nothing in the bill that prohibits the unlocking of any device manufactured prior to the enactment date of the legislation. Specifically, the bill allows unlocking at the direction of the owner of the device:
(c) Unlocking at Direction of Owner.--Circumvention of a
technological measure that restricts wireless telephone handsets or
other wireless devices from connecting to a wireless telecommunications
network--
(1)(A) as authorized by paragraph (3) of section 201.40(b)
of title 37, Code of Federal Regulations, as made effective by
subsection (a); and
(B) as may be extended to other wireless devices pursuant
to a determination in the rulemaking conducted under subsection
(b); or
(2) as authorized by an exemption adopted by the Librarian
of Congress pursuant to a determination made on or after the
date of enactment of this Act under section 1201(a)(1)(C) of
title 17, United States Code,
may be initiated by the owner of any such handset or other device, by
another person at the direction of the owner, or by a provider of a
commercial mobile radio service or a commercial mobile data service at
the direction of such owner or other person, solely in order to enable
such owner or a family member of such owner to connect to a wireless
telecommunications network, when such connection is authorized by the
operator of such network.
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Thanks.
I flashed stock Verizon 4.4.2 firmware and then took 4.4.4 update via ota.
Tired of flashing nightlies and custom roms with all their bugs and issues.
Glad to be back on stock and re-rooted with TWRP installed.
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When the new cell unlock law goes into effect Motorola should have to give out unlock codes for the XT1028..
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That would be great if they were to do that.
classic757 said:
Thanks.
I flashed stock Verizon 4.4.2 firmware and then took 4.4.4 update via ota.
Tired of flashing nightlies and custom roms with all their bugs and issues.
Glad to be back on stock and re-rooted with TWRP installed.
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Yeah, kept getting systemui force closes after installing a few things, and usually while listening to my podcasts. i'll probably venture back into roms once they hammer out that issue
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Yeah, kept getting systemui force closes after installing a few things, and usually while listening to my podcasts. i'll probably venture back into roms once they hammer out that issue
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I hear you. The only reason I used custom roms was because Verizon had not yet pushed the 4.4.4 ota and now that they have and I have it I have no need for customs roms. Actually I find the 4.4.4 update to be quite a surprise. The camera is much improved imo and the rom seems to be a bit more quicker than before. All-in-all I am glad I reverted back to stock rom and I plan on staying with stock.
P.S. To my understanding Android L is coming later this year to the moto G.
There is an Enable OEM Unlock option that is appearing in the Developer Options of the N6 and MX14 running 5.1 and if it is not checked, you cannot unlock your bootloader. If you unlocked via Sunshine or purchased a code for your device from the Chinese code seller, we do not know what is going to happen wrt this Enable OEM Unlock option for your phone if you upgrade to 5.1.
Until we do, it is safest to not upgrade and stay unlocked until 5.1 drops and the situation becomes clearer.
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There is an Enable OEM Unlock option that is appearing in the Developer Options of the N6 and MX14 running 5.1 and if it is not checked, you cannot unlock your bootloader. If you unlocked via Sunshine or purchased a code for your device from the Chinese code seller, we do not know what is going to happen wrt this Enable OEM Unlock option for your phone if you upgrade to 5.1.
Until we do, it is safest to not upgrade and stay unlocked until 5.1 drops and the situation becomes clearer.
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I don't think this is going to be an issue. People said in the N6 forums that they were able to unlock via fastboot without ever changing that setting in developer options. They hadn't even booted the phone into Android yet, just took it out of the box, put it in fastboot and unlocked.
I can't imagine the OTA would lock the bootloader, but who knows...
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I don't think this is going to be an issue. People said in the N6 forums that they were able to unlock via fastboot without ever changing that setting in developer options. They hadn't even booted the phone into Android yet, just took it out of the box, put it in fastboot and unlocked.
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But others relocked after unlocking and didn't check the box then flashed something, ended up in a bootloop and were unable to unlock again to repair their phones.
Regardless, you cannot rely on what happens with a Nexus device. These MX13's were never intended to have unlockable bootloaders, whereas the Nexi were intended to have unlockable bootloaders.
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I can't imagine the OTA would lock the bootloader, but who knows...
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I don't think it will relock the bootloader either. I am more concerned about those who relock then take the update not realizing that they will not be able to unlock again.
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These MX13's were never intended to have unlockable bootloaders, whereas the Nexi were intended to have unlockable bootloaders.
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Except the Developer Edition units that are identical in every way to the retail versions, but the unlock code is obtainable.
Regardless, I will wait until the process is confirmed and use the same process that I did to update from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. Reflash stock /recovery and a clean /system, take OTA, then reflash TWRP and flash SuperSU. I value my root to much to risk it.
Didn't intend to say you were wrong in my first post, just that people had the same thoughts when the N6 came out and it wasn't a problem. People freaked out when My Verizon updated a while back and it requested root permissions, too. It's an abundance of caution, I get it.
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Except the Developer Edition units that are identical in every way to the retail versions, but the unlock code is obtainable.
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The GSM Dev Ed is not identical to the AT&T MX13. But still, so what? None of us know how this is going to be implemented in 5.1. We can speculate all we want but we will know for sure once it is released.
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Regardless, I will wait until the process is confirmed and use the same process that I did to update from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. Reflash stock /recovery and a clean /system, take OTA, then reflash TWRP and flash SuperSU. I value my root to much to risk it.
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Rather than take the OTA, I would use Motorola Device Manager to upgrade - it leaves a copy of the fxz on your computer.
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, just that people had the same thoughts when the N6 came out
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No, they could not have had the same thoughts as the N6 was always an unlockable device. You don't have to use Sunshine or purchase an unlock code to unlock the N6. So whatever thoughts anyone has had about the Enable OEM Unlock feature wrt how it would work with the N6 have nothing at all to do with this thread. The situations are totally different.
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and it wasn't a problem
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On the contrary - it has been quite a problem for a lot of people with N6's who relocked their bootloaders. That is well documented on the N6 forum.
Why would I relock my bootloader to take the OTA? Why would I relock for any purpose?
Running the soak test of Android 5.1 and there is no Enable OEM Unlock option on it..
Saythis said:
Running the soak test of Android 5.1 and there is no Enable OEM Unlock option on it..
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The option only appears when you update to 5.1 with your bootloader locked.
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Except the Developer Edition units that are identical in every way to the retail versions, but the unlock code is obtainable...
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Most would expect that for those Moto freely gives away the bootloader unlock code for (on their web site), should be ok and not impacted. At least that is what we hope, otherwise Moto could have a bunch (maybe a small bunch) of angry users on their hand
But the thought about a warning or caution was directed toward those with ATT, Republic Wireless, or Verizon (non-dev) units who either purchased their bootloader unlock code from the China seller (or middle man) when it was available, or used Sunshine in order to bootloader unlock... since those devices were not ever intended to be bootloader unlocked.... There is uncertainty over this new "check box" in the rom. Moto could leave it out for those models (especially since ATT and RW use their own roms, VZW could be a little trickier since all XT1060's, dev and non-dev use the same rom), and if so, how does that impact any user who had a code and didn't use it yet, or unlocked, and might later want to relock for some reason.
For Sunshine, the concern would be due to changes in the phone's bootloader, TZ, or other parts that might be included in the update which might close that exploited vulnerability down. Think back to how some of the early Root/WPDisable processes were said to be "permanent" only to find they were NOT when the next OTA came out and "un-did" the hack.
So yeah, as you said...
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It's an abundance of caution, I get it.
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Why would I relock my bootloader to take the OTA? Why would I relock for any purpose?
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Some people relock b/c they think it is more secure if they lose their phone or it gets stolen.
it leaves a copy of the fxz on your computer.
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it leaves a copy of the fxz on your computer.
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Motorola Device Manager does, yes if you upgrade using MDM, you will have a copy of the fxz on your computer.
Any Updates on this situation?
It's almost been a month. Has anything new been discovered? I'd like to know if I can update to 5.1.
dont know about 5.1 but when i flashed 4.4.4 removing cm 12.1 on my att moto x it didnt relock my bootloader hope this stays same with 5.1 i used sunshine to unlock.
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It's almost been a month. Has anything new been discovered? I'd like to know if I can update to 5.1.
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The 5.1 OTA for ATT, Republic Wireless and Verizon hasn't been available yet, so I doubt anyone has tried it.
The only ones upgrading to 5.1 right now are those with a bootloader that is unlockable via code from Moto's web site.
I haven't seen Jcase, Beaups, or anyone related to Sunshine make any comments.
Further... I asked in the Sunshine thread...
See JCASE's response -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61503326&postcount=3529
I have an XT1060 (VZW), unlocked via Sunshine. I recently switched to T-Mo, and although the VZW build worked fine, I wanted Lollipop, so I flashed the stock T-Mo 4.4.4 build, and then sideloaded the 5.1 update. I am still unlocked and everything is working fine. I'm not sure if this totally mimics your situation, but I can say that the 5.1 update rolling out to T-Mobile doesn't affect the bootloader status for Sunshine unlocked devices.
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I have an XT1060 (VZW), unlocked via Sunshine. I recently switched to T-Mo, and although the VZW build worked fine, I wanted Lollipop, so I flashed the stock T-Mo 4.4.4 build, and then sideloaded the 5.1 update. I am still unlocked and everything is working fine. I'm not sure if this totally mimics your situation, but I can say that the 5.1 update rolling out to T-Mobile doesn't affect the bootloader status for Sunshine unlocked devices.
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Exactly what I've done, converted my mother's Sunshine unlocked BL Verizon Moto X into a T-Mobile one. I'm waiting for the OTA instead of sideloading to see how things go. I'm guessing by your experience she shouldn't have any problems taking the OTA update to 5.1.
Maverick-DBZ- said:
Exactly what I've done, converted my mother's Sunshine unlocked BL Verizon Moto X into a T-Mobile one. I'm waiting for the OTA instead of sideloading to see how things go. I'm guessing by your experience she shouldn't have any problems taking the OTA update to 5.1.
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How did you convert it, I'm considering converting my att moto x to retail version. Btw its bootloader is unlocked
Long time reader...first time poster
I bought an unlocked sprint s7 from ebay and it works like a dream and i was wondering if there was a safe method to update the phone WITHOUT ruining the unlock that the seller put on the phone.
Current software is update PC5 and i would love to benefit from security and bug fixes in new releases.
Thanks in advance!
nmarz3 said:
Long time reader...first time poster
I bought an unlocked sprint s7 from ebay and it works like a dream and i was wondering if there was a safe method to update the phone WITHOUT ruining the unlock that the seller put on the phone.
Current software is update PC5 and i would love to benefit from security and bug fixes in new releases.
Thanks in advance!
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I always thought if a phone gets carrier unlocked it didnt matter what u did to it, it would stay unlocked. Unless the way he got it unlocked was thru a mod maybe that can b ruined. Im not sure
shooterlgk said:
I always thought if a phone gets carrier unlocked it didnt matter what u did to it, it would stay unlocked. Unless the way he got it unlocked was thru a mod maybe that can b ruined. Im not sure
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Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!
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Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!
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Yea ur safest bet is to keep it as it is so u wont lose that. No problem
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Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!
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Bootloader unlock and sim unlock are two different things. You said it has an unlock pad on boot up screen. That means it's bootloader is unlocked. Which means if I am correct if it has a custom recovery you are unable to do future ota updates. Can and possibly brick your phone. You can flash a ton that has the new update no issues developers are usually fairly quick to update there rom on the latest ota.
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Bootloader unlock and sim unlock are two different things. You said it has an unlock pad on boot up screen. That means it's bootloader is unlocked. Which means if I am correct if it has a custom recovery you are unable to do future ota updates. Can and possibly brick your phone. You can flash a ton that has the new update no issues developers are usually fairly quick to update there rom on the latest ota.
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Now my question is that since my phones bootloader is unlocked via custom software, would it be safe to root it and install custom roms that have the current updates? thanks
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Now my question is that since my phones bootloader is unlocked via custom software, would it be safe to root it and install custom roms that have the current updates? thanks
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Yes! You are in the wrong forum though. You are on sprint but need to be with the enxyos forum ND running their tarp and roms
Have the same dilemma as OP.
unlocked on PC5 firmware with GCPro. No root was used
Should i update OTA or leave it be.
xronikus said:
Have the same dilemma as OP.
unlocked on PC5 firmware with GCPro. No root was used
Should i update OTA or leave it be.
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I can confirm that updating over OTA will NOT screw with the unlock of the device. If your samsung pay does not work i would disable knox with a package disabler app to receive samsung pay in you new updated state.
OTA update from PC5 to PH7 on unlocked phone went smoothly.
Thanks
I have a unlocked Sprint S7 but im outside of America, is there any way i can update without losing the unlock? i don't want to end with an expensive brick.
Im stuck in G930PVPU2APC5 and i can't receive OTA updates
I bought unlocked sprint s7 that I'm using with metro PCS, but it's not letting me update the profile and because of that I'm not getting the wifi hotspot option. How do I get it to work?
@ThaDunder : You must initially do it manually over samsung smart switch then OTA will work @zirnitra : Sadly wifi tethering is not working for me either...no idea how to fix it =/ must be a symptom of the unlocking like wifi calling
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@ThaDunder : You must initially do it manually over samsung smart switch then OTA will work @zirnitra : Sadly wifi tethering is not working for me either...no idea how to fix it =/ must be a symptom of the unlocking like wifi calling
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I already tried that, smart switch says there is no update available.
I saw a lot of people in the bootloader unlock thread talking about this. By flashing the stock factory image from Google, you haven't completely converted it to a Google phone. OTAs will still come from Verizon. There is almost no way to stop this: PLEASE be careful before taking OTAs in case Verizon does something shady with unlocked devices.
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I saw a lot of people in the bootloader unlock thread talking about this. By flashing the stock factory image from Google, you haven't completely converted it to a Google phone. OTAs will still come from Verizon. There is almost no way to stop this: PLEASE be careful before taking OTAs in case Verizon does something shady with unlocked devices.
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Ota's come from Google. Not Verizon. Your sim dictates what other BS happens with your phone. As long as you have a Verizon sim in a Verizon pixel you'll have a Verizon pixel. I'm pretty sure they pool the cid of Verizon pixels so they know which ones to allow bootloader unlocking and which ones to flag as ineligible.
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Ota's come from Google. Not Verizon. Your sim dictates what other BS happens with your phone. As long as you have a Verizon sim in a Verizon pixel you'll have a Verizon pixel. I'm pretty sure they pool the cid of Verizon pixels so they know which ones to allow bootloader unlocking and which ones to flag as ineligible.
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It's based on the IMEI number. Verizon OTAs differ from Google ones, even if they come from google
So, if I have a Google firmware installed on an unlocked Verizon device using a T-Mobile SIM, will I get OTA's at all?
PuffDaddy_d said:
So, if I have a Google firmware installed on an unlocked Verizon device using a T-Mobile SIM, will I get OTA's at all?
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Probably still Verizon OTAs.
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Probably still Verizon OTAs.
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How can I get a Verizon OTA with a T-Mobile SIM? I'm assuming I won't get an OTA at all and will need to side load. Just looking for confirmation...
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How can I get a Verizon OTA with a T-Mobile SIM? I'm assuming I won't get an OTA at all and will need to side load. Just looking for confirmation...
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It uses the IMEI number to verify which OTAs to download. That doesn't change, it's tied to your specific phone
Why even bother with OTAs at all?
If you took the time to unlock the bootloader and get root, why would you not flash the stock images when they show up on googles developers page?
If you've loaded TWRP at all or mounted system rw; OTAs will not work.
I unchecked OTAs in developer options.
When new ones come out, I'll update when I feel like it.
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How can I get a Verizon OTA with a T-Mobile SIM? I'm assuming I won't get an OTA at all and will need to side load. Just looking for confirmation...
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For clarification, OTAs all come from Google, but Google occasionally has different OTAs for phone variants depending on your carrier associated IMEI (If you go to Google's OTA download page, you can see these in the description - there will be multiple OTAs for a date with different carriers).
Hey just came across this thread and not sure if the general consensus is accurate as far as it updating to the IMEI or not. I am currious though since I do have a Nexus 6 that has the VZW IMEI (starting with 99) but want to say once I switched to the FI sim card and away with VZW and flashed the FI software for the Nexus 6 it did in fact update to only the FI software from that point on. I could be wrong but I do not recall ever having to flash the FI software after updates due to it being VZW relased software. And in case anyone care I did notice that the unlockable Google software does in fact have VZW programs in it they are frozen by default in Titanium Backup. But like I said just 2 cents worth and not able to confim it 100%.
What about EE uk, can it be unlocked aswell?
I mean, Pixel 2 and 2 XL's are SIM unlocked. So really it depends who you pay money to for service.
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joloxx9joloxx9 said:
What about EE uk, can it be unlocked aswell?
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Unfortunately, we're still not sure man. You can always tryyyyy
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
What about EE uk, can it be unlocked aswell?
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No, I have unlocked the bootloader on my wife's pixel 2 from EE, I can now load custom software, so reloaded Google's factory image, but the phone is still sim locked to EE. It's definately an IMEI thing, not software.
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No, I have unlocked the bootloader on my wife's pixel 2 from EE, I can now load custom software, so reloaded Google's factory image, but the phone is still sim locked to EE. It's definately an IMEI thing, not software.
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EE bootloader can be Unlocked, I was reffering to that.
Yes the EE bootloader can be unlocked. Just use the same method as on Verizon.