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Was wondering what's the track record of Samsung getting custom Roms/firmware?
I really like how XDA have developers to do custom ROMS for HTC phones but was wondering does Samsung phones gets same treatment? Or will be looking at far and few in between updates from Samsung itself and won't be able to update to the latest and greatest?
Really want Nexus One but the Galaxy S is sooooooooo much better *sigh*
Can't answer your question on whether the Samsung will get the same amount of Dev time that has been lavished on the HTC phones, but I was in the same situation as yourself - Galaxy S or Nexus One.
I came down on the side of the Galaxy S simply because it's a better phone all round. There's a multi-touch vid on youtube comparing the responsiveness of the screens, and the Galaxy wiped the floor with the Nexus One. I'm hoping that the popularity of this phone will mean that the Devs on here will start giving some time to the Galaxy S.
I must admit I was initially drawn towards the Nexus One because of excellent work that has been done by the likes of Cyanogen et al, but I took the long term view that surely the same must eventually happen with the Galaxy S. *crosses fingers*
For the Galaxy, there is MoDaCo. For the Galaxy Spica, there is Samdroid. Don't know much about the others, but they weren't released here in Europe anyway.
I followed Samdroid a while, thinking about getting a Spica. There are some awesome things going on there - they even tried to modify the touchscreen sensor, because the hardware does support multitouch, but the driver doesn't. AFAIK, they had no success, but still nice try. And they even opened a board for the Galaxy S, maybe Leshak fetches one and works some magic there in the future. If not, I am pretty sure somebody will.
If you want to customize it to run the latest roms, the question is: how "open" is this device?
I know that HTC made the Desire a pain in the butt to unlock/root, and they will improve this with every new phone the make, making them more and more secure and block customized images.
Is Samsung going to follow the same strategy?
I think you're right Magicdroid, the question would be how open this is. But even though the Desire was a pain to root, it HAD been rooted just cos there's lots of developers. When there are lots of developers, you'll get rooted device
I wonder if the Galaxy S will get lots of user base.............I just hope lots and lots of ppl will pick it up and then the chance of longetivity with custom ROMS dramatically increases....
I'm hopoing for good community support as well. I have an AT&T Tilt, and have doen well on the XDA site. I'm spoiled
I am very interested in the Galaxy S, but I"m on At&T, and the AT&T version i keep reading about doesn't have the same specs. So having to wait and see on that.
Also, I see a lot of negative feedback on Samsung support, and based on their previous Android phone (Behold I think it's called) is not getting an upgrade. Lots of complaints about being abandonded by Samsung.
Not sure what I'll do. If At&T doesn't get decent phones soon, I mahy have to look do Verizon.
Sorry...I'm rambling off topic.
The Galaxy S looks like a great piece of hardware.
MarvinTheAndroid said:
There's a multi-touch vid on youtube comparing the responsiveness of the screens, and the Galaxy wiped the floor with the Nexus One.
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Hilarious! I just found it and laughed so much http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
I was considering to buy a Nexus, but now I changed my mind...someday this mobile will hopefully get root and give enough space for customizations of every kind...just wait and see - it will come in the mid of June to Europe and I'm eager to hold one in my hands
I'm disciplining myself to not get this phone until there's a good team of developers move to it to get customizations going
aaahhh the wait the wait......
and, do you have one jet? the best mod is doctorz rom. it runs very smooth
God damn it. Did you sign up just to necro a thread that's over A YEAR AND A HALF old?
Can't say for sure where to post this, but in case anyones forgotten, Samsung Unpacked 2012 is later today. We know that they are likely to announce the SGS2 successor and perhaps another mystery phone. Fingers crossed for ICS on the Note?
Link to the Unpacked app on the Play store; you can watch the announcement live in the app once it happens.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsungmobile.unpacked2012_1
Update; looks like they are going to stream it on Facebook...
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile/app_366547110058162
Here will be stream too: http://apsoid.ru/show/s3.htm
A comparison between the S2, the SGnex and the S3 : http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/galaxy-s-iii-whats-changed/
Quite happy I've didn't wait for it and took the Note instead, don't really care about quad-core, as it seems (almost) the only benefit of the S3.
I'm really underwhelmed and disappointed by the SGS3 announcement as this is our first glimpse of what may power the Note successor.
I'm not so much disappointed with the chipset as I am with the pentile screen - I guess the rumors of upgrading to a screen in between pentile and traditional RGB subpixel arrangement were nothing but fluff.
I really am starting to think that I will just skip the Note2 and head straight for the Note3.
Ha, Ha. Samsung is done. A 4.8inch? Two large for a phone. I believe 4" to 4.5" is the best. If you want a phone and tablet, go to note. iPhone 5 will be a winner.
YES! Looks like i'm keeping my baby! I can finally stress down and wait till september/october for the Note 2 aka The Best One.
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And here we go. The Note is ****ed now. I wouldn't be surprised if the Note will not get updated past 4.0.
It already won't receive any of those new features SGS3 will.
SilverHedgehog said:
And here we go. The Note is ****ed now. I wouldn't be surprised if the Note will not get updated past 4.0.
It already won't receive any of those new features SGS3 will.
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Note will get ICS update probably 23 june. SGS3 much worse than Note.
hehe i will keep my note as well
i mean the s3 is not a bad phone.
but its still hasnt 5.3" and an s-pen^^
i greatly dislike the physical buttons of the s3. i'd be interested in it, but i wanna get rid of the physical buttons the next phone i buy.
like the other guy said in the sgs3 forum we just got 'Iphone 4S'd by Samsung. how could they say inspired by nature? the phone looks plasticky and Tw launcher is simply FUGLY, If they do the same to the note 2.
I just finished watching it. I think it was a good event. The Galaxy S III is really attractive!! Samsung is really a big threat to apple now.
MoonCocoon said:
I just finished watching it. I think it was a good event. The Galaxy S III is really attractive!! Samsung is really a big threat to apple now.
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hello samsung rep.
nice try,
/jk
awesome-member said:
hello samsung rep.
nice try,
/jk
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no ****..
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MoonCocoon said:
I just finished watching it. I think it was a good event. The Galaxy S III is really attractive!! Samsung is really a big threat to apple now.
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As they currently sell the most smartphones in the world, I think the threat is already there. The SIII isn't going to dent those sales anytime soon. I think it looks smart, especially the blue version.
Have to agree with a number of comments. My Note will definitely not be going anywhere. I got my hopes up near the end when they said 'one more surprise' but alas...
I was surprised to see the hardware buttons in place. I thought ICS and the GNex would have pushed Samsung away from it. Hardware and software seem fine, but barring the social stuff (which I'm personally not really interested in) the camera and some of the awareness functions like staying awake and smart notifications seem interesting and I don't think there is a good reason those functions shouldn't be on the Note.
Just remembered one more cool thing they need to port to the Note, the scrolling toggles in the drop down notifications. And quite a funny voice 'test' from Android Central below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61I97JKORDE
Toggles (skip to around 1:20): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd-QNEXNo-E
raines43 said:
As they currently sell the most smartphones in the world, I think the threat is already there. The SIII isn't going to dent those sales anytime soon. I think it looks smart, especially the blue version.
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Samsung will saturate the market with sgs3, they will sell a large quantity(expect cheap sgs3 within 3 months of release) but they will loose the brand value, similar to how htc host its foot on android(remember they were the largest manufacturer of android). the only thing they have going for them is their exclusive access to superamoled, but i think with rendering issues in samoled (needless to say plasticky body) my next device is unlikely to be a Samsung.
I think the camera app functionalities sound great and all the S voice thing too even if it's a "Samsung's Siri"
What's the chance that the Galaxy Note ICS official update will include these features?
If not, what's the chance of port?
Quite the interesting forum, a friend of mine recommended me here for all my Android needs. A brief story is as of last Sunday I'm a proud owner of the Samsung Galaxy Tab. After 4 years of using the Iphone I decided to convert to Android So far so good, although still getting used to the OS. It looks fairly simple, and more modifiable than the Iphone 4 which is good.
Passing on to the issue.
Model: SAMSUNG-SGH-i717 Galaxy Tab
I already rooted the phone it was quite simple Although don't really know the full potential of it or what I can actually do. Is it only just for changing OS roms?
I've been lurking through the forums regarding those different OS roms I can add after rooting, specially to get rid of those pesky AT&T annoying apps.
But I haven't found a you could say, convincing one in the threads. and I don't know which ones are the good, popular ones with the lesser bugs that work good with the Galaxy Tab.
I would appreciate it a lot if you guys could lead me to the right direction.
Thank you very much!
And pardon me for my noobness
wrong forum.
SGH-i717 is an AT&T Galaxy Note, not a Galaxy Tab.
Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493
Woops
Wooops, Sorry about that
10 things to know about the Samsung Galaxy Note Edge
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10 things to know about the Samsung Galaxy Note Edge
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looks like a bunch of complaints. and silly opinion. the usual price beef... and more opinion. only his points 1, 2, 4, and 5 are valid. the rest is subjective.
I read this earlier and dismissed the entire article. It is clearly written by someone who has a dislike for the product IMO.
People did the same with the original Note and haters gonna hate... They are obviously not cool like me rocking my affordable, slick looking, one handed operating, sweet Note Edge. *shrug*
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Read it, seen the same review on YouTube. This is not the device for everyone. My oldest wants my edge, he wants to upgrade in February to get it, youngest, she is happy with my old Note 3. I'm trying to talk my son into the Note 4, I can't let him have the same device as me.
Hi,
I've owned every Samsung flagship and a few nexus's since the Samsung galaxy S2 days(currently own a note 4), And I've always enjoyed XDA (and Android obviously) as I could root and change ROMS and do what ever I wanted with the phone.
However, I learned my lesson when I got the Exynos varient S4 a couple of years ago. As many of you know, Exynos really lacks development with AOSP based ROMS. With my S4 while the Snapdragon varient had a working and stable CM ROM after a month, on the Exynos forums we waited for maybe a year until we got a sami-working CM, and even the last I checked, just to see if progress was made, I saw that those Exynos related bugs are still there(random audio problems, etc). Because I was smarter when I went for the Note 4 I made sure to get the Snapdragon varient and sure enough I'm enjoying CM since basically the phone came out while those with the Exynos note4 had to literally make a forum wide donation, recruit a random dev from xda, fund and buy him a device and since then I think only lately the've started getting some AOSP love(after months and months of dev, and still there are annoying bugs).
I have no idea if it's because Samsung won't share their Exynos sources or just because it's more difficult to develop with this SoC. However- If you are on XDA I can imagine you like having fun with ROMS. Maybe not everyone, but most of us like this site for a reason.
The fact is that I hated my S4 days as I could only choose TouchWiz ROMS(and they aren't that much different). This time, even if I'm not on CM, I can always flash TouchWiz: I have the option, and it's so very much different and not frustrating to be bound to only touchwiz.
The choice is yours, and if there was a snapdragon varient i'd tell you to pick it(..I still like samsung phones) but as it's only exynos..well, just like my S4, the note4, the S6 and basically every other Exynos device- you'd suffer from development.
good luck!
Edit: btw I was only talking about AOSP based development. For those of you that care about samsung updates more - you should know that samsung are treating their Note series very badly when it's related to updates. I didn't own a note2, or a note 3. But I have the note4 and I can promise you I've never owned a device that got treated as badly as this one. Maybe it's only the note4, no idea. But Lollipop update took months upon months to release and it was with many bugs. So far, we didn't get 5.1 as well, even though other Galaxy devices got it awhile ago. It seems like Samsung don't really like the Note series..
for more info just so you won't think I'm bashing for nothing: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/08/05/why-do-you-hate-the-galaxy-note-4-so-much-samsung/
**If you want Samsung to bring faster updates, and be more developer friendly, instead of buying the next phone and praise it- don't buy it and maybe they'll get the msg. personally I'm gonna go a non Samsung flagship next time and see if their attitude changes by the next note**
Does this thread relates or discuss anything about the Note 5.
OP, I was skeptical when I saw your post but after reading it I appreciate your insight.
When I get my Note 5 I will miss being able to tether more than anything. I only need to root to be able to tether.
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Does this thread relates or discuss anything about the Note 5.
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Try the Android Central forums for the Note 5. It isn't plagued by whining and negativity....
Sher The Love said:
Try the Android Central forums for the Note 5. It isn't plagued by whining and negativity....
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seriously though, 50+ people complaining about it not being a note4 and 5 people actually talking about their new phones.
IDK about you guys, but I have a note5 and would like to discuss the note5.
you know I am too over the whining, crying and fit throwing about the Note 5. All this *****ing isn't changing a damn thing and Samsung isn't going to change something that people are whining about anytime soon. I am all for discussing the Note 5 and leave the comparisons to the Note 4 behind us. Whew I feel better now .
This is the same crap that went on with the Nexus 6. Smartphones are moving in this direction whether we like it or not. Removable storage and batteries are becoming a thing of the past. If that's what you want hang on to your old Note. Let's move on people and concentrate on the facts when the device gets in the hand of users. Which by the way, is starting to look stellar and will probably sell well.
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Actually in not trying to be patronizing I realize that this is about the note5 and specifically about its processor. Yes he references other phones but that was to show similarities between the exynos soc and the snapdragon soc. In a much shorter post he said.
"If you like flashing roms and you like AOSP then you may be disappointed by Samsung choice of processor. It makes development a pain in the @$$. "Be Aware".
Instead of complaining about complaints, read, understand, and move on if you don't like it. The problem is that you're on xda. This IS the place to discuss possible development OR THE LACK THEREOF. Not that many people have the phone yet. And to be honest the real developers probably aren't going to waste money on the note 5 because of what the OP stated.
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Actually in not trying to be patronizing I realize that this is about the note5 and specifically about its processor. Yes he references other phones but that was to show similarities between the exynos soc and the snapdragon soc. In a much shorter post he said.
"If you like flashing roms and you like AOSP then you may be disappointed by Samsung choice of processor. It makes development a pain in the @$$. "Be Aware".
Instead of complaining about complaints, read, understand, and move on if you don't like it. The problem is that you're on xda. This IS the place to discuss possible development OR THE LACK THEREOF. Not that many people have the phone yet. And to be honest the real developers probably aren't going to waste money on the note 5 because of what the OP stated.
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Yes but this has been true for all Exynos SoC devices for years, it shouldnt come as a shock to anyone who has been even slightly aware of XDA and samsung for the past 3+ years. It is brought up literally every time samsung launches a device with Exynos, literally every time, which seeing as every samsung release in the past year has had Exynos, this should be common knowledge at this point.
Just because something is true does not remove disdain. Murders happen every 5 minutes. This is true. But is it something that people like? I mean I don't have a note 5. Nor do I care to bash it. But I do find it funny that people who are logged into and are users of a site that can sometimes be referred to as power user central are mad because power users are complaining about something lost that they held dear to them.
I really don't think people are mad that they are complaining as much as it is the volume of which they are complaining that is wearing on people. I get it with every iteration comes change, and with every change comes complaints about the change but there comes a time when you just have to say fine " I don't like this change and so I will have to deal with it or find something else that tickles my fancy" and go on. We all knew weeks ahead of time that the removable battery and the sdcard was going by by. The leaks confirmed it. Like it or not it happened and it also turned out that the battery lost 220mAh which really people isn't that much of a loss and considering that the other improvements like (processor, ddr4 ram, LTE radio, 4.1 bluetooth, ect...) it very may well surprise you, and from the few threads and articles that I have read so far that seems to be the case. Now is it really or is it the way they have used their device, who knows. but I have owned ALOT of phones in my time and I have yet no matter which phone I owned did a battery swap yet even though I have been known to carry a spare at times.
I guess my suggestion to the people that really are pissed off about the changes, write a letter to samsung or something to that affect because I'm 99.9% sure *****ing about it here in the threads isn't doing a darn thing towards change. I could be wrong.
And again Im not flaming the people that are complaining its just my opinion...
I personally won't buy a note device to throw asop on it. While it's nice to have the option, you lose all the functionality you bought the note device for any way. Buy a nexus if you are overly concerned about being able to run CM/AOSP ect. A nice optimized TW rom is all i look for with a Note as is the case with my note 4.
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IDK about you guys, but I have a note5 and would like to discuss the note5.
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First step to achieving that would be simply ignoring posts with titles like this one has. Lol
Is it just me or the fact that every Samsung handset is being released with an Exynos might be a good thing due to the fact that the Exynos itself might have a higher bounty to develop for?? :fingers-crossed:
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Is it just me or the fact that every Samsung handset is being released with an Exynos might be a good thing due to the fact that the Exynos itself might have a higher bounty to develop for?? :fingers-crossed:
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It's more a matter of sources and ease to develop for.
gabo1 said:
Is it just me or the fact that every Samsung handset is being released with an Exynos might be a good thing due to the fact that the Exynos itself might have a higher bounty to develop for?? :fingers-crossed:
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exynos is difficult to develop for whereas snapdragon is of a wider developer support
lightiv said:
OP, I was skeptical when I saw your post but after reading it I appreciate your insight.
When I get my Note 5 I will miss being able to tether more than anything. I only need to root to be able to tether.
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If it's like the S6, FoxFi worked great for the Verizon model.
demand and supply, as i was stating. Now that we all will be rocking Exynos, devs might be more prone to look further into it.
Here is a thread if you haven't noticed it yet that may shed some light .....
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=568536&goto=postid&p=4615669#post4615669
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demand and supply, as i was stating. Now that we all will be rocking Exynos, devs might be more prone to look further into it.
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Back to the days of the GS3, the problem was not that there is no devs but that there is no sources.
Even now, there is no completely finished lolipop ROM.