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Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 North America Users Experience Discussion

I am opening this thread with the intention of enabling a discussion among the North American users (current/prospective).
It appears that Note 3 Pro (Snapdragon variant) is the logical choice for north american user, as it includes few of the 4G bands.
So, how is the network experience with the major cell phone carriers? Which firmware/rom includes those bands? AOSP/Global/China? Does VOLTE work?
I have been using the RN3P for the last couple weeks. I am in the Florida area in T-Mobile network, and really happy to see that I get 4G LTE most of the time. It's the band 4 according to the LTE Discovery app.
I have tried a bunch of different roms, including global stable, aosp and developer beta. I have observed that the network is much better with the developer MM roms. I am currently using the Epic ROM based on the developer rom, and I think I shall use it as my daily driver.
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Connected to LTE with Rogers and Koodo (Telus Band 4 AWS). I ordered the china model which shouldn't have included Band 4 (if you believe the information on all the china sellers sites), and confirmed it's not Kate model as it is only 150mm tall.

goofball2k said:
Connected to LTE with Rogers and Koodo (Telus Band 4 AWS). I ordered the china model which shouldn't have included Band 4 (if you believe the information on all the china sellers sites), and confirmed it's not Kate model as it is only 150mm tall.
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That's good to know. There are so many variants of this device, it's really confusing. I ordered mine from Gearbest last week, who knows when it will show up. The problem with these Chinese retailers is that sometime they themselves don't know what they have. I guess I have to see what I get. I just hope that mine also supports band 4, which T-mobile in USA also uses.
Are you still using China firmware? Does the china model come with Google Playstore?

http://willmyphonework.net/
most networks will work on the note 3 Snapdragon version (kenzo).
the Kate or aka Note 3 Special Edition model supports a additional 'band 20' which afaik is not used in the USA (someone confirm?)
the Mediatek note 3 Hennessy most likely doesn't have good usa network support
so make sure you get the kenzo or kate model, though I would stick with kenzo since the kate doesn't have as good of support or accessories

suhridkhan said:
That's good to know. There are so many variants of this device, it's really confusing. I ordered mine from Gearbest last week, who knows when it will show up. The problem with these Chinese retailers is that sometime they themselves don't know what they have. I guess I have to see what I get. I just hope that mine also supports band 4, which T-mobile in USA also uses.
Are you still using China firmware? Does the china model come with Google Playstore?
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Mine came with Global 8.0.1.0 installed, prerooted, and unofficial bootloader unlock. I flashed official 8.0.1.0 global from tgz file, which then relocked the bootloader. I have done the official unlock with the same 8.0.1.0 official stable with no problems.
It came with Google Playstore, and some gapps (not all).

Anyone tried AOSP roms in north america? Does it also get the lte coverage?
I have heard privacy concerns from many people MIUI roms. May be rumors, may be not. But I don't wanna take the risk.
Can anyone compare the performance between MIUI and AOSP roms?
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How are your speeds on LTE? With tmobile, I'm rarely able to break 10mbps on my kenzo.

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How are your speeds on LTE? With tmobile, I'm rarely able to break 10mbps on my kenzo.
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I am yet to receive mine. Hopefully next week. :fingers-crossed:

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How are your speeds on LTE? With tmobile, I'm rarely able to break 10mbps on my kenzo.
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I have seen a video on youtube where he compared it with a iphone speed, and it got around 100mbps (the iphone beat it by a few mbps) , but it's definitely capable of fast speeds, though it probably depends on the network / bands, single strength and local isp speeds...

otyg said:
I have seen a video on youtube where he compared it with a iphone speed, and it got around 100mbps (the iphone beat it by a few mbps) , but it's definitely capable of fast speeds, though it probably depends on the network / bands, single strength and local isp speeds...
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Signal is always strong when I test but it's always slow. Tested 2.5/1.1 earlier today with full bars. My settings are correct AFAIK. Would you happen to know which vid this was and by whom?

I was sent the mtk Hennessy and it isn't all that cool. I'm am going to try the umi super next
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I was sent the mtk Hennessy and it isn't all that cool. I'm am going to try the umi super next
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Boost is what works for lte on this version.

imwatcinu a said:
I was sent the mtk Hennessy and it isn't all that cool. I'm am going to try the umi super next
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Boost is what works for lte on this version.
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I have on hand experience with Umi Super. Which carrier you are on? With T-mobile Umi Super had really poor data connection. Barely got 3g, I couldn't even stream a YouTube video. I don't think it has any north american band. It's a decent phone for the price, but do your research first.

In Florida with T-Mobile network, using band 4.
I recommend changing the default apn settings to fast.t-mobile.com one, which better result for me.
https://bestmvno.com/apn-settings/t-mobile-apn-settings/

Is my Redmi 3s really LTE compatible? Only get H+

For as long as got this phone I have only gotten H+ service dispite my services supporting LTE. I remember the specs saying that this supports LTE.
Sent from my Redmi 3S using Tapatalk

Not only your phone, but your SIM card should also be 4g compatible. The phone has LTE. And you should subscribe for 4g services.
If everything is present, try changing settings.

arceuss said:
Not only your phone, but your SIM card should also be 4g compatible. The phone has LTE. And you should subscribe for 4g services.
If everything is present, try changing settings.
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Both my sims are 4g LTE as well as my plans
Sent from my Redmi 3S using Tapatalk

Try checking your settings> SIM settings.. see if it is LTE..

redmi 3s does not Support LTE band 20. in my country band 20 is used only in citys, so i won't get LTE on the country side.
maybe it's the same for you?

The 'Global' Version of the phone does support Band 20. You might have the one without it...
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Well this app says I don't have LTE?
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Where did you buy from? Either it says LTE 1/3/7 or LTE 1/3/7/20. First one i s without Band 20.
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The term LTE refers to a whole spectrum of frequencies or bands. You may want to look at this Wikipedia chart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_frequency_bands It's impractical for your phone to support every LTE band, just like it's impractical for your network provider to support every LTE band.
What this boils down to is this: whenever you buy anything, it is your responsibility to ensure it suits the purpose for which it is intended. In this case, when you buy a phone, it is your responsibility to ensure it supports the bands your network provider is using.
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FYI, a thread already exists about which bands the Redmi 3S supports: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-3s/help/redmi-3s-global-version-vs-chinise-t3453397

xdarkmario said:
For as long as got this phone I have only gotten H+ service dispite my services supporting LTE. I remember the specs saying that this supports LTE.
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Maybe your area is uncovered by LTE?
Little trick for ALWAYS LTE >> *#*#4636#*#*

Ryoukawa said:
Maybe your area is uncovered by LTE?
Little trick for ALWAYS LTE >> *#*#4636#*#*
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I tried enabling LTE only on one of my sims and when I do it says no service.
I will update my other sims plan next week and try with the other sim
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xdarkmario said:
I tried enabling LTE only on one of my sims and when I do it says no service.
I will update my other sims plan next week and try with the other sim
Sent from my Redmi 3S using Tapatalk
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Same problem here with international version. Wanted to test LTE with a prepaid sim to decide if it is worth to change my data plan.
No LTE connection at all. Possibly yet another bug
Edit: It is working now :victory:
Used the sim card in another LTE phone to see if it is related to the sim itself. Worked there without problem. After reinsterting the sim in my phone, it was working there also. Maybe it also has something to do with restarting the phone, but I had tried that before.

Warning: Banggood sold fake X821 4/64 GB in oct./nov. 2018 -> NO LTE band 20 !!!

This is a warning to all buyers of the Le Max 2 X821 sold by banggood in october / november 2018 with 4/64 GB!
They sold some sort of patchwork phone with bodies of X821 / X820 with suspectful having internals of X829.
Reason:
- Le Eco aka LeTV never build an X820/X821 (for the chinese or indian market) with 4/64 GB - the only model having this combination was the X829 for US
- LTE band 20 is not possible to connect (tested with several SIM cards)
- LTE band 20 cannot be activated (tested several firmwares)
Please test your device and report please!
Suggested app for testing: "Network Signal Guru" from playstore.
1. Root device
2. Start app
3. Grant root privileges to app
4. Tap three-dot-menu (upper right)
5. Select "Lock bands"
6. Select "LTE"
7. App shows usable bands
--> Please post results
Thanks!

I think I bought one of them.. I thought something was weird with the device model and firmware.. Well.. at least it works in my network.. Might get rid of it though as it has the camera problem..

I bought one of those too.
how to do the testing for the actual usable bands to be sure?

gagas1 said:
I think I bought one of them.. I thought something was weird with the device model and firmware.. Well.. at least it works in my network.. Might get rid of it though as it has the camera problem..
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What kind of problem has it with the camera?

knoxwalles said:
I bought one of those too.
how to do the testing for the actual usable bands to be sure?
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Please root device and install the App "Network Signal Guru" from playstore.
Start this app, grant root priviliges. Then tap upper right three-dot-menu.
Then select "Lock bands", then "LTE". After this the app will show the usable bands. Please post result here (screenshot). Thanks.
I got the following bands for my "X821": 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12 and 17 (20 is missing).
For comparison: On my bq M5 I got all bands usable in germany: 1,3,7 and 20 (800 MHz)

flauschi18 said:
I got the following bands for my "X821": 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12 and 17 (20 is missing).
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Are you referring to this: https://www.banggood.com/LeTV-LeEco...8.html?rmmds=search&ID=46149&cur_warehouse=CN ?
But if you scroll down to specs you'll see this:
4G: FDD-LTE: B1(2100)/B3(1800)/B7(2600)
TDD-LTE: B38(2600)/B39(1900)/B40(2300)/B41(2500)
I do not see B20 listed there.
Plus, Max 2 for $130 with 4/64 GB?
That should be a raised red flag, considering the fact that a year ago *real* X821 3/32 GB was selling for $180-190.
Can you return it? I would.

xen2001 said:
Are you referring to this: https://www.banggood.com/LeTV-LeEco...8.html?rmmds=search&ID=46149&cur_warehouse=CN ?
But if you scroll down to specs you'll see this:
4G: FDD-LTE: B1(2100)/B3(1800)/B7(2600)
TDD-LTE: B38(2600)/B39(1900)/B40(2300)/B41(2500)
I do not see B20 listed there.
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Yes, I am referring to this. Until yesterday evening B20 was listed there. As I am new here to xda I cannot post screenshots... sorry

Thank you for your warning. :fingers-crossed: I was about to buy this at banggood (same link) and immediatly refrained after seeing your post.

after checking:
1. there is no LTE band 20 in this phone (and yes, when I ordered the phone it had band 20 in the product specs, now removed)
2. only one sim slot is working!!!! NO DUAL SIM!!
3. the box is fake, including the sticker with a production date of 07/2018
4. the charger is only 2A charger compared to the original 3A charger of the X820/X821 I have
the rest of the phone specs are comparable to my other X821, the roms work. it just seems the screen is slightly different in quality. The phone is definitely fake, possibly from the same factory than the original.

I have noticed that charger is not original, but other than that it looks legit.
Both sim slots work and i have 4g , probably my provider has other 4g frequencies too, i use 3g for battery anyways.
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flauschi18 said:
What kind of problem has it with the camera?
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The focus problem. Clicking noise while is trying to focus and many times won't focus properly. Hit and miss. That's in stock ROM. Any other custom ROM is worse

GalaxyFan88 said:
Thank you for your warning. :fingers-crossed: I was about to buy this at banggood (same link) and immediatly refrained after seeing your post.
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You are welcome! It was my intention to warn new buyers.

gagas1 said:
The focus problem. Clicking noise while is trying to focus and many times won't focus properly. Hit and miss. That's in stock ROM. Any other custom ROM is worse
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I seem to have luck. Camera is working perfect on my device. But I will check dual-SIM, because other user wrote, on his Le Max 2 it does not work.

I would not call it fake if it is really x829 instead of x821, it is still better than refurbished or real fake. As i remember x829 was more expensive than x820/821, cdla earphones could not be the only reason.
Charger is leeco but i do not know for which model it was for with 1A, charger for my old x600 was 2A.

Milanche78 said:
I would not call it fake if it is really x829 instead of x821, it is still better than refurbished or real fake. As i remember x829 was more expensive than x820/821, cdla earphones could not be the only reason.
Charger is leeco but i do not know for which model it was for with 1A, charger for my old x600 was 2A.
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No earphones included here! I've two of these fake devices with band 20 missing. Band 20 is still an important band in Germany. There is a reason why different models exist. Calling something fake is absolutely legit in this case if someone (banggood) flashes the firmware to pretend it's another device and sells without pointing to this circumstance. I will even go that far to call it a fraud.

Well, I have bought my phone from banggood during that period (rose gold, as it was the only colour available), and two SIM cards work fine in this model, have installed LineageOS 15.1 and it works beautifully and it supports fix for camera focus (pictures are really nice). I have not been able to check B20 yet, though - but I have trusted specifications and I may confirm, that it was listed there, as otherwise I wouldn't have bought this phone. So, it is another example how tough it is to trust the Chinese merchants...
Network Signal Guru lists following available LTE bands on my phone: B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B8, B12 and B17. Indeed, B20 is missing and what about B38?
Frankly, am very confused - why does Network Signal Guru not list B26, B38, B39, B40 and B41 (sure, they are not used in EU at the moment but shouldn't it be reported by NSG)?
There is a site, which I have relied on - https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-leeco-le-max-2 - and it is supposed to show, which phone supports this or that. Now, I am really confused... Sure, that phone is cheap and runs nicely - but nobody likes being lied to.

About Dual Sim: the preloaded rom allows data only in the first slot
Flashing any other rom from XDA solves that issue.
After checking band 20 it turns out the phone does not have it.
We have been fooled by BangGood or is it rather BangBad?

Dear Yerry,
I have LTE access almost everywhere in Poland, but only LTE bands B3, B7 and B8. I am not able to verify, whether there are areas where only B20 is available - and whether my phone would support it. But you cannot, alas, presume that if you have good LTE reception - it means, that B20 is there. There is a nice utility, 'LTE Discovery' which does not require root to report, which LTE band the phone uses at the moment. You may then have a look at its log, and verify which LTE bands were available - you can check there, if your phone has ever switched to B20. Mine has not, however. But, as said above, I do not know much about B20 availability in my country - so can't really tell. Gruesse.

Bought One to replace my old Galaxy Note 4. I check that I stop having 4G coverage with my current operator (Vodafone). This only emits LTE in the B20 band in my locality. So it has no B20 band. We have been deceived by Bangood.

Does someone have screenshots of a X829?
Would be intresting wheter it matches the fake version.

Cellular strength and throughput

We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the 's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.

Band 20 missing
4G is ok in the UK with Band 3 and 7. It may have been better if Xiaomi had implemented the Band 20 (800MHz) which is used by most of the antennas.

lapwat said:
4G is ok in the UK with Band 3 and 7. It may have been better if Xiaomi had implemented the Band 20 (800MHz) which is used by most of the antennas.
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How'd u get the K20 pro in the UK? I'd like to purchase one, but just the non-pro variant is being advertised.

danN1 said:
How'd u get the K20 pro in the UK? I'd like to purchase one, but just the non-pro variant is being advertised.
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Got it from wondamobile.com, 1 week delivery from Hong Kong.

The Xiaomi Mi 9T is way cheaper ($295), same specs (as the K20), and supports band 20
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-mi-9t
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The Mi 9T pro (basically the global version of the K20 pro) is coming in the next two weeks, should support band 20 as well.

Kiwironic said:
The Mi 9T pro (basically the global version of the K20 pro) is coming in the next two weeks, should support band 20 as well.
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Where? Afaik it's coming to India after a month and it's the k20 pro.
After that the global version.

No information yet on where they are released I'm sorry, but as a general rule if the country has a xaiomi outlet and it relys on a certain band, the phone variant for that band will be the one sold in it if xaiomi has that variation. That is true for the mi 9t pro.

Kiwironic said:
The Mi 9T pro (basically the global version of the K20 pro) is coming in the next two weeks, should support band 20 as well.
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The latest rumours are that it could be released in Russia sometime next month and in the EU 'after summer'. Not come across rumours for the Pro release in other regions.

Robbo.5000 said:
The latest rumours are that it could be released in Russia sometime next month and in the EU 'after summer'. Not come across rumours for the Pro release in other regions.
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I would wait and see, 4G coverage is more than an option for me. I do not need the extra bands here in Thailand but would prefer to have that version over the current mainstream one. I will have to check the support on the XDA community as well first.
The K20 pro is going to be a more popular one for sure if it was released in India

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I would wait and see, 4G coverage is more than an option for me. I do not need the extra bands here in Thailand but would prefer to have that version over the current mainstream one. I will have to check the support on the XDA community as well first.
The K20 pro is going to be a more popular one for sure if it was released in India
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I'm now in Thailand. I've just ordered the K20 Pro. When I'm back in the UK it will be OK to live without band 20. The only difference between the 2, apart from the bands, will be the logo on the back. ROMs will be interchangeable. Xiaomi.eu will be my preferred ROM option until true custom ROMs start emerging, so as I see it, there is no reason to wait for the Mi 9T Pro, especially as it will probably be more expensive.

Agree with you, but might not be as expensive as you think depending on the market, the 9T is a lot cheaper than k20 currently

Has anyone tested the phone in the US?

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Has anyone tested the phone in the US?
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In my area I've been surprised how much LTE I'm getting on AT&T. I was expecting to run it almost entirely on 3G but it's actually picking up really strong LTE on band 5.

facing an issue with youtube and mobile data.
mobile data speed is about 2MB/s(20mbps), when trying to download an app from play store was downloading only at about 200kb/s, now went to the downloads app and put the limitation to 100m, than go back to play store and let it download on mobile data , now the speed is OK, but youtube app is still facing same issue, limited to 200kb/s use of mobile data.
any solution to this software issue ? cannot stream 1080p videos on mobile data and i am getting very dissapointed with this.

Using in UK , no issues (1 month+)

Which state do you live? I live in Virginia but not sure band 5 is strong here

Compared to the pocophone F1, signal strength of Redmi K20 pro is way wore.

I am not getting 4g+ on my k20 pro indian variant on both jio and vodafone. Asus 5z, galaxy s10 and one plus 7 at the same spot at my home catching 4g+.

Just got the phone and inserted my Google Fi sim. The data speeds are horrendous. I live in Orlando, so I'm not in a rural area by any means. The phone is nearly unusable on cellular data, and some apps just time out while attempting to connect to the internet. I ran a speed test and got 0.1 megabit speeds

Uclydde said:
Just got the phone and inserted my Google Fi sim. The data speeds are horrendous. I live in Orlando, so I'm not in a rural area by any means. The phone is nearly unusable on cellular data, and some apps just time out while attempting to connect to the internet. I ran a speed test and got 0.1 megabit speeds
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You must be new to international cell phones. You choose a phone with almost 0 compatibility with your current provider.

Do all versions of the Mi9T come with Band 28 (700Mhz)?

The official Xiaomi website suggests the Mi9T supports LTE FDD: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28. However many sellers have told me that their Mi9T does not come with Band 28. My understanding is that the box itself doesn't show the bands of the phone but the booklet inside the box does - thus perhaps confusing some sellers.
So, my questions is, does anyone have a definitive answer if all Mi9Ts have the same bands and more specifically, do they all come with Band 28 (700Mhz)?

sinners007 said:
The official Xiaomi website suggests the Mi9T supports LTE FDD: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28. However many sellers have told me that their Mi9T does not come with Band 28. My understanding is that the box itself doesn't show the bands of the phone but the booklet inside the box does - thus perhaps confusing some sellers.
So, my questions is, does anyone have a definitive answer if all Mi9Ts have the same bands and more specifically, do they all come with Band 28 (700Mhz)?
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I want to know this same exact question.
Because here in Brazil many resellers don't know if it has or not the band 28 (700Mhz).

Yes the "Mi 9T" version have B20 and B28, 100% sure cause it is written on the "phone's little book" xD

Xiaomi make different phones for different regions with different Bands. We can't rely on their website either. It says that the Redmi Note 7 has Band 28 but the RN7 has 3 different variants, only one of those has Band 28.
My question is whether the Mi9T is like the RN7 with different bands for different regions or whether all Mi9T have the same bands?

Just use the App "Cell Info Lite" in different places. It will show you the current band of your Mi9T.

I got Mi 9T from Hong Kong that came with the HK/UK charger. it has B28. I have confirmed it works.

The MI 9T global device has band 28

I am asking if ALL Mi9Ts have Band 28. Many sellers don't list the bands for the phone and other sellers say it doesn't have Band 28.
GSMA claim that (unlike other phones like the Redmi Note 7 which has multiple variants) the Mi9T only has one variant which has Band 28.
Does anyone know the official answer?

sinners007 said:
I am asking if ALL Mi9Ts have Band 28. Many sellers don't list the bands for the phone and other sellers say it doesn't have Band 28.
GSMA claim that (unlike other phones like the Redmi Note 7 which has multiple variants) the Mi9T only has one variant which has Band 28.
Does anyone know the official answer?
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I just got my Mi 9T from TobyDealsAU today, and the booklet says it has band 28, but in the cell info app band 28 isn't appearing... When I put my sim in my Mi Mix 2 it connects to band 28 instantly, bit disappointed...
Maybe it's something to do with MIUI Global, going to try flash Xiaomi.eu in a week when I can unlock it, still disappointed though

Straight out of my instruction manual in the box
1/3/7/8/20/28/38/40
which is not accurate because it supports band4 too. I guess since it's made for Europe they don't list it there. The best way to find out is to check FCC or similar regulatory bodies with the device ID.
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Ok, I looked up on FCC. Mi 9T https://fccid.io/2AFZZ-XMSF10G
If you look at the LTE reports, it has approve cert for these bands.
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I don't know if that's conclusive since band 28 is Asian maybe FCC doesn't test that. Overall I'm guessing this device doesn't support any 700Mhz band like 28 or 12 etc.