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Would you buy this phone again, tomorrow?

Hello all
Been a flash addict for years now, and have always loved Nexus line of phones. This last year I got the LG V10 (preordered) instead of the 6P.
I am still using my V10 and have very few real complaints with it. But I miss being able to root
I see the deal on Beat Buy for a refurb 32G 6P ~$315 and want to pull the trigger.
Would you guys pull the trigger on this phone, having used it the last X amount of months already? I want to have a phone I can enjoy, flash anything on, and still at the end of the day enjoy as much as my V10
Thx for the input!
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Most definitely. I love stock Android and the fact that I'm already using Android n and will have the final official version months before. Overall I like Samsung hardware/design but their downfall is 5+ month wait for updates and the fact that touchwiz starts to lag. That in my opinion is unacceptable. I also love the stereo speakers and the big screen. Overall it's the perfect package at least for me
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Thank you!
I am blessed with a great camera on the V10. However even though it's one of the most vanilla OS skins LGs UI has begun to lag horrendously over the last couple months.
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The 6p is the best phone I've ever had. I don't even look at, or shop for other phones and I don't think I will for a while. The only thing it sucks at, imho, are macro photos.
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Definitely. One detraction: thermal throttling SUCKS on there 6p. Until you root and change there thermal settings, gaming is crap. Otherwise, love it!
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I'll be honest with you, and I doubt many people would feel the same way I do, but I recently bought a 6p (simply because of the ridiculous price I managed to snag it at) which I use as a travel phone and something to store my offline Spotify playlists on.
My main phone is an S7 Edge, begrudgingly bought as the Note 5 wasn't released in the UK and I had previously used a Note 4.
After playing around with the 6p, I find myself gravitating towards it.
It's a fantastic phone, don't get me wrong- it's huge, but it's freakin' incredible.
I'm genuinely considering swapping my sim over to my 6p and leaving the S7 Edge on the side.
The only thing that keeps me with the S7 is the camera, however, I can't fault the 6p.
It's a great phone.
I'd highly recommend it.
Oh also, I'm running the Android N Dev preview.
It's FANTASTIC.
Just my opinion

As someone who has bought and sold over half a dozen phones in 2 years, I dumped my Note 4 for the 6P and haven't looked back. I've had it for about a year now, and I have no desire to get anything else. The others all left me wanting in some way, but I'm thoroughly impressed with the 6P. I'd buy it again in a heartbeat if I had to, it's definitely worth the price.

Chris Hansen said:
As someone who has bought and sold over half a dozen phones in 2 years, I dumped my Note 4 for the 6P and haven't looked back. I've had it for about a year now, and I have no desire to get anything else. The others all left me wanting in some way, but I'm thoroughly impressed with the 6P. I'd buy it again in a heartbeat if I had to, it's definitely worth the price.
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Can you give me a detailed pros vs cons between the two phones? Thank you.
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Bought mine late (a few months ago) after my LG G4 died twice (boot loop error and wifi issues, and my wife's G4 is doing the same now). I wouldn't think a phone that has been out this long would still be on top, but this thing is great. I have no issue with the camera (yes, its slow in HDR, but it has to process the image), the fingerprint sensor is a must-have (my first phone with one), and the size is perfect. Its big, but not too big. Screen is awesome too. My only issue is with the bluetooth, and its just minor stuff, but I'm not a heavy BT user to begin with. Battery is amazing so far as well. I will not go back to LG for quite some time. I loved my G3, but the G4 was total garbage. The camera was good, but waaaaaay overprocessed by their software.
The 6P is a total winner

I got mine as a gift (yeah I know) in July. I love this phone. Yeah, granted gameplay isn't the greatest for me. For graphic intense games stutter quite a bit and battery life isn't the greatest (I think this phone might be defective), but vanilla Android has been the way to go for me. The HTC 10 would've been my next choice though. So in short, yes I would definitely buy this phone.

Thank you all for the input. I am hoping that best buy will still be offering the refurb 32g at the $315 price point next week when I get paid... Does anyone know if it will still be up at that point?
I find myself wanting this phone more now that I know it can be had, I wanted this phone when it was released. I will definitely pull the trigger if the deal is still going next week.
Thank you!
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Thank you all for the input. I am hoping that best buy will still be offering the refurb 32g at the $315 price point next week when I get paid... Does anyone know if it will still be up at that point?
I find myself wanting this phone more now that I know it can be had, I wanted this phone when it was released. I will definitely pull the trigger if the deal is still going next week.
Thank you!
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I think you could find a better price on swappa or similar. Amazon prime was selling them cheap. Not sure about the best by y promotion though, sorry
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Definetely I would buy it again. On Nougat DP4 it's massive.

Absolutely. What other phone out right now today is as good as a high end pure Android phone ? Galaxy S7 Edge ? LOL no thanks. HTC 10 ? Been there done that was ok. OnePlus Three ? LOL nope. iPhone ? HAHA

My wife gifted me a 6P at Xmas last year to replace my aging HTC M7. I have to say this is the best phone I've had. However I would not purchase one tomorrow, it is far to close to the release of a new set of Nexus devices to even consider purchasing this phone right now. I would personally wait and do one of two things.
1. When the new Nexus comes out and if money isn't an issue I'd go ahead and pickup whatever replaces the 6p.
2. When the new Nexus comes out and if I wanted bang for buck I'd buy a heavily discounted 6p.

jmtjr278 said:
I think you could find a better price on swappa or similar. Amazon prime was selling them cheap. Not sure about the best by y promotion though, sorry
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Could you or anyone else find a better deal? I've looked a bit... But I'll search some more before buying. Thanks!!!
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It's the best phone I've ever had. the battery life is awesome for me (5-6h SoT), fast charge, great camera, great screen size, fast fingerprint scanner, I couldn't go back to a phone without front facing speakers. Yes I would buy this phone again tomorrow

gserrano13 said:
I got mine as a gift (yeah I know) in July. I love this phone. Yeah, granted gameplay isn't the greatest for me. For graphic intense games stutter quite a bit and battery life isn't the greatest (I think this phone might be defective), but vanilla Android has been the way to go for me. The HTC 10 would've been my next choice though. So in short, yes I would definitely buy this phone.
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It's not defective. Heat throttling.
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I was about to post a disappointed with 6p post in general but I'll start here instead. I LOVE Android and the phones and want to love the 6p but I just cannot keep it as my primary.
What I love:
Screen is beautiful
Battery life and charging speed are great
Speakers are really nice
Phenomenal cameras
Why I can't keep using it:
Phone conversation quality is just above terrible with headphones. I have constant complaints over the quality on the other end when I use any headphones, doesn't matter brand, style, etc. Would LOVE any fixes people have found.
The 810 is a horrible processor. I cannot believe how hot this phone has to get to just run average games. I live between the iOS and Android world, l just enjoy seeing what they both have to offer. My nearly 2yr old 6+ crushes the 6p in gaming, any game, any tweak, doesn't matter they just run better. On top of that using the thermal tweak to reduce, it doesn't get rid of, the gaming lag turns the phone into lump of hot coal. I can't comfortably take a call if I've been playing a game.
Ambient display, I've had to turn it off because no matter how I positioned my phone it would turn on in my pocket and I'd have a long typed up message of garble or something else very random on screen.
I so badly want to love this phone, it's a great size, I love Google integration, I love Android, I just can't use it as a daily driver.

Yes and no.
It's a great phone with a gorgeous screen and big display But..... The 810 Is horrible and throttles heavily, the build quality isn't great and the videos are horrible without OIS. I wouldn't buy it again at this point in time, I'd wait for the Note 7 or the next Nexus.
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If I'm going to have to replace it, again.. What with????

Well I just went to AT&T to try the LG v20. It's as big as an iPhone 7 Plus, but I have to say I thought it was fantastic. It's screen is slightly bigger, it's brighter (!) which surprised me and when I ran gagnam style on both (always my test video) I have to say that I thought the screen was better on the v20. The whites are whiter and the Note looked yellowish by comparison. Very interesting. It's also far quicker at switching apps, as fast as the iPhone. Camera is very quick too.
Anyway just food for thought. There is life after the Note7
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Gagnam style lol nice... Thats what im considering going too. I have yet to see it so i want to actually hold it and play with it before i make a decision
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Yeah if I have to replace my note I'm thinking the v20. Don't want the s7 edge (had it as a loaner and it was okay but not great). Only disappointment is that I won't be able to use my new gear vr. Also, at&t's version won't come with those earphones
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Mayonesa said:
Gagnam style lol nice... Thats what im considering going too. I have yet to see it so i want to actually hold it and play with it before i make a decision
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Gagnam is great as its bright, colorful and many scene changes, and you can test the sound too.
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I will take the v20, 64gb storage, 4gb ram, usb-c, 5.7 screen, android 7.0, not water resistant, but its not like you can use the note 7 for snorkeling so, I think the note 7 is done. So lets go LG
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How about the new "newer" note 7....maybe available in a few weeks
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KingP1n said:
How about the new "newer" note 7....maybe available in a few weeks
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I am hoping the exynos version for all.

Yeah I think I may wait to see what Samsung does to try to keep my business. My guess is that they realize this is a big pain to customers and will hopefully offer a special deal to keep them loyal. If not I will probably switch to a different brand. Not sure what yet though since there isn't much that compares.

ShrekOpher said:
Yeah I think I may wait to see what Samsung does to try to keep my business. My guess is that they realize this is a big pain to customers and will hopefully offer a special deal to keep them loyal. If not I will probably switch to a different brand. Not sure what yet though since there isn't much that compares.
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Unless they have a Note 7.5, Note 8, or an S8 ready to go, I'm done. They have treated me like crap throughout this entire recall.
Probably going back to Apple this year.

sireniankyle said:
Unless they have a Note 7.5, Note 8, or an S8 ready to go, I'm done. They have treated me like crap throughout this entire recall.
Probably going back to Apple this year.
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I feel ya, but I could never go back to Apple. Like being handcuffed... Just can't stand iOS, the device itself is awesome but can't stand iOS.
I still have an S7e so I will probably go back to that for the short term. I love the Note line even if it is re-branded I will look at the Note 8 next year.

i did the same, returned Note 7 for pre order of LG V20 this morning. The camera was extremely fast, it was snapping pics as fast as I hit the button. The screen was slightly bigger, or appeared to be anyway (good thing). I like the little display on the top as well, and display looked much better than I expected. Cant wait for my order to arrive!

ShrekOpher said:
I feel ya, but I could never go back to Apple. Like being handcuffed... Just can't stand iOS, the device itself is awesome but can't stand iOS.
I still have an S7e so I will probably go back to that for the short term. I love the Note line even if it is re-branded I will look at the Note 8 next year.
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I settled for the S7 Edge once already, because Samsung screwed up the Note 5. That's 2x in a row in my book. I don't want to go back to it, because 1.) I'm spoiled by the Note 7's 64GB plus expandable storage, and 2.) The edges are more obvious, and i do not like them at all. There's also the lack of S- pen and hdr. The Note 7 also boosts the audio for video playback, which I loved.
**I consider the Note 5 a flop, because there was no expandable storage and 64GB max onboard. The same reason that I haven't bought a 1+3. NB4 you don't need more than 64GB. If company says "Never Settle", don't tell me to settle.**
If I go back to Apple, I get the water resistance, imessage, stereo speakers, unrivaled speed, great battery life, and a home button that is not on-screen (lookin at you, Google and LG). I also lose micro sd (got 256 on-board so), fast charging, wireless charging, qhd, and certain freedoms on the software.
If Samsung would let me buy a Note 7, or if the 1+3 could take a micro sd card, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But the Pixel XL is crap (my opinion), the htc 10 is too small, the S7 Edge is too curvy, and the 1+3 lacks enough storage. I know, I'm picky.

sireniankyle said:
I settled for the S7 Edge once already, because Samsung screwed up the Note 5. That's 2x in a row in my book. I don't want to go back to it, because 1.) I'm spoiled by the Note 7's 64GB plus expandable storage, and 2.) The edges are more obvious, and i do not like them at all. There's also the lack of S- pen and hdr. The Note 7 also boosts the audio for video playback, which I loved.
**I consider the Note 5 a flop, because there was no expandable storage and 64GB max onboard. The same reason that I haven't bought a 1+3. NB4 you don't need more than 64GB. If company says "Never Settle", don't tell me to settle.**
If I go back to Apple, I get the water resistance, imessage, stereo speakers, unrivaled speed, great battery life, and a home button that is not on-screen (lookin at you, Google and LG). I also lose micro sd (got 256 on-board so), fast charging, wireless charging, qhd, and certain freedoms on the software.
If Samsung would let me buy a Note 7, or if the 1+3 could take a micro sd card, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But the Pixel XL is crap (my opinion), the htc 10 is too small, the S7 Edge is too curvy, and the 1+3 lacks enough storage. I know, I'm picky.
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I have been anti apple for as long as I can remember. I do not like apple for many reasons from being so constrained on a phone I own to apples business model to apples proprietary hardware etc etc. BUT this time I decided to give the 7+ a try for 1 year after i returned my Note 7. So far after 2 weeks I have absolutely nothing bad to say about my 7 Plus. It is incredibly fast, incredibly powerful and just down right does everything perfectly EXCEPT they are having some bluetooth issues with certain devices. One of those happens to be my 8.4" UConnect headunit that it is not streaming nicely with. Random skips and choppy audio when streaming music. But my headunit has ipod controls so I simply plug my 7 Plus into a usb port and stream my music that way and it charges the phone as well. If you do go 7 plus I dont think you will be unhappy with it. Also the standby time and overall battery life is outstanding. I first got a silver one then decided I want black instead so my 128GB Silver one is on ebay right this second with 2 days left in the auction. Brand new condition.

So I talked to someone I know that works for Samsung. Samsung is a business partner of the company I work for. It is not looking good. Right now there are two options being discussed internally at Samsung.
1.) Stop the production of the Note 7 ALL together and refund everyone who bought one. This is an issue because phones sold on a secondary market may be difficult to get refunds for. It also will cause many users to leave Samsung all together and go the LG V20 / Pixel / iPhone 7 rout.
2.) Do ANOTHER recall replacement. I was told a new run of the phones would be available by the end of the month to be swapped out if Samsung chooses to go down this path AGAIN. I would hope the 3rd time is the charm and this 3rd build of the phone is perfect. However this has issues as well. There is a chance some if not all of the USA carriers won't pick up the 3rd version of the phone AT ALL and not offer it as a replacement to consumers. Also if it is offered as a replacement there is still not guarantee that USA carriers will EVERY being to sell it as new again.
Both of these options leave me with a few concerns.
1.) This phone will probably NEVER have the correct software support it deserves. Meaning IF it gets the android 7.1 update in the 4th quarter of this year like it is supposed to it will probably be the only update it ever gets. Also it may not get the monthly security patches ever, which makes this not usable for my work.
2.) I do not know what Samsung can do to restore confidence with me that this 3rd version of the Note 7 will not one day blow up. I have also lost all faith in the CPSC. I mean what are they doing this time that will GUARANTEE that this version of the phone won't blow up as well. Just seems like its going to be a hard sell to me.
3.) Samsung still seems a bit short sited to me on fixing this issue. If they really want to "stop the bleeding" of loyal customers they need to focus on future product sales. Again this means leaving the Note 7 dumpster fire behind, but it also means trying to convert note 7 users into future sales. I would hope they would consider offering a discount voucher for a Samsung phone bought in the future as a part of this 2nd recall, but judging by everything I have seen coming from their company it looks like they are more worried about the now, and they are going to lose even more customers because of it.
Anyone have any other thoughts? What would it take for Samsung to get you to stay with the Note 7, or in the future consider buying a S8 or a Note 8?

What stores have the lg v20 demo?

I returned both of ours for a full refund.. Ordered an axon 7 and a oneplus 3 as replacements.

Seriously I went into my local Att store and no V20 demo unit there.
Heres my 2 cents. I came from the Note 4, and the Note 2 before that, so you can understand the waiting I had to do in order to get something amazing. The Note 7 checks so many boxes off of a long list of features that I have always found useful. The pen, the screen size and resolution as well as top specs in the cpu and ram department every time they are released. But, this one thing that kept buggin me on the newer Notes was the non-removable batteries. It was the reason I held out on upgrading the Note 4 for so long. And here we are witnessing something that is hugely affected by the decision of not including that capability.
In terms of what Samsung should have done, its obvious - they should have included a slightly smaller battery in terms of thickness and capacity in order to reduce the risk of defects. Something like a smaller/thinner 3000 mah battery would have been totally fine. Even a slightly thicker version of the 3600 mah battery and thicker chassis would have been fine as well. But my honest opinion is that devices that are catching fire are actually suffering from some slight bending in the chassis at some point after they are purchased. This most likely would be something like dropping it hard or even having it bend slightly when in a pocket. Im thinking the latter is the cause for the batteries to have warped a tiny fraction causing the layers/connectors in the batteries to warp. But this is an inherent risk with all batteries in phones I think. Its just exponentially worse the thinner you go. And if the production tolerances on both those aspects are so dang tight, expect more issues than say an Iphone which can bend all day and still not catch fire.
It would be great to see Samsung give people full refunds for international variants and exchanges through carriers like they are doing. Should they give a discount for future devices? It would be awesome obviously from a consumer standpoint. Will they actually give some discount of meaningful value? Most likely not. They are a massive multi-billion dollar corporation. I would think the Note customer base is the smaller of their top 2 devices. So even if they lose some of this crowd, there is still the massively successful S7/S7 edge crowd to bank on. Especially since we will be seeing the S8 in like 4-6 months. Its actually smart of them to stagger device releases in this case. I'm not particularly excited about anything else being released this year. Google has the specs now, but looks so boring. And that top headphone jack...just ugh. The iphone as everyone saw is just a placeholder until next year. The V20 is, well, just another LG phone. Tough decisions all around at this point.

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This store has a demo, I messed with it for a bit while my Note 7's were being returned.
7025 FM 1960 RD E STE. 100, HUMBLE, TX 77346

Anyone played with an Honor 8 or the ZTE AXON?
I am not a fan of LG devices.
I'm probably go back to the S7e but it's really not a great replacement.
How many people would get another replacement Note 7 if one is offered?

ShrekOpher said:
Anyone played with an Honor 8 or the ZTE AXON?
I am not a fan of LG devices.
I'm probably go back to the S7e but it's really not a great replacement.
How many people would get another replacement Note 7 if one is offered?
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I will , but I will wait to trade mine in . When they have them in the store , then I will go. I still want this phone , its why I bought it in the first place.

Pixel and Pixel XL let down.

Returning my Note 7 to BB today and just going to stick with my old Note 3 for now. I grabbed the N7 when the charge port in my N3 literally went up in smoke, even though I didn't really care for it or any phone on the market right now. Being on sprint network there really aren't many options for phones these days. I was looking at the pixel xl but it doesn't seem to work easily on sprint and I have to agree with everything in this video. Not mine - but seems pretty accurate really.

I took it as just another persons opinion, but he makes many valid points that can't be denied.
I was able to buy the charge port for my N3 for $5 and repaired it myself in 10 minutes. Believe it or not my N3 outperforms the N7 in every way except photo quality.
I wish everyone well with their pixel phones. Who knows, maybe someday I'll even end up with one, but I'm really hoping my N3 last until the next gen pixel and they add back the features they took away like dual front speakers, ois, micro sd slot, removable battery and larger screen. I realize removable battery may be gone forever, but it's more important to me than being able to submerse in water.

tigercranestyle said:
personally, i'd avoid vids with inflammatory, clickbait headlines from someone who obviously doesn't have the pixel xl (posted oct 11th). not sure how it's a "real life review".
edit: btw here's a pic of his youtube page. just screams legit, right?
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Yeah, that dude is simply mad about everything...

1. The bezels are there because when you hold the phone it puts the prime real estate at your thumb height. Otherwise you have to bend your thumb down and reposition the phone. Also gives you something to hold in landscape mode besides the screen.
2. O.i.s. not needed..eis is great. No moving parts to break.
3. Design is not copying the iPhone. iPhone copied HTC. Google it.
Love the phone and battery life is amazing compared to any previous Nexus. Easy upgrade from Nexus 6p, which I owned before this.
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I am on Sprint and it works fine. I preordered through Google and had to get a specific SIM card type from Sprint, but that's it.

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I am on Sprint and it works fine. I preordered through Google and had to get a specific SIM card type from Sprint, but that's it.
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I'm also on Sprint, what type of Sim did they give you? I'm using the one from my HTC 10 currently and I can't seem to get mms and SMS to work correctly. Can you confirm that you can send texts over 160 characters in stock messenger?

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I've had the XL since Friday and I have to be honest, it's going back. I think Google really made a mediocre phone but released it at the perfect time. I still don't understand why everyone thinks this phone is so great and revolutionary.
I got this from Verizon as a replacement for my Note 7 and to be honest I was super excited about it because of Google Assistant. I was wrong to be excited. I don't see it being any more useful than what's already on every other Android phone when you say "OK Google" and in 6 months you'll be able to download the assistant onto any Android phone from the Play Store.
No microsd, no wireless charging, no waterproofing... why are we being charged so much for a phone that looks like the iPhone 5 plus? The bezels on a top and bottom are way too big for this phone (they are) and the two tone back of the phone makes it feel like cheap plastic, not to mention the antenna bands. Two years ago this phone would have been worth it, now it should really cost about half of what they're asking for it.
I have an iPhone 7 plus for work and I have an S7 Edge. Both are better choices but I'm going to keep the note 7, it seriously is the best phone I've ever used. I just hope it isn't my last.

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if you are having problems with sms/mms, its usually due to an incorrect APN; check your settings and confirm they are correct
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The APN settings are not available for me and I've been assuming it's due to my Sim card. I can only update profile/prl. I think I'll head to Sprint tomorrow and see if I need a different Sim card. Crossing fingers

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I've had the XL since Friday and I have to be honest, it's going back. I think Google really made a mediocre phone but released it at the perfect time. I still don't understand why everyone thinks this phone is so great and revolutionary.
I got this from Verizon as a replacement for my Note 7 and to be honest I was super excited about it because of Google Assistant. I was wrong to be excited. I don't see it being any more useful than what's already on every other Android phone when you say "OK Google" and in 6 months you'll be able to download the assistant onto any Android phone from the Play Store.
No microsd, no wireless charging, no waterproofing... why are we being charged so much for a phone that looks like the iPhone 5 plus? The bezels on a top and bottom are way too big for this phone (they are) and the two tone back of the phone makes it feel like cheap plastic, not to mention the antenna bands. Two years ago this phone would have been worth it, now it should really cost about half of what they're asking for it.
I have an iPhone 7 plus for work and I have an S7 Edge. Both are better choices but I'm going to keep the note 7, it seriously is the best phone I've ever used. I just hope it isn't my last.
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I have seen some water proof videos on YouTube and the pixel was under water for an hour and came out with 0 issues other then the speaker being foggy. Even camera was fine. It's just not labeled with water resistance
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BaconSeeds said:
I have seen some water proof videos on YouTube and the pixel was under water for an hour and came out with 0 issues other then the speaker being foggy. Even camera was fine. It's just not labeled with water resistance
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Okay... but that still doesn't put it in the premium phone category. Also, there may be some long term damage to the phone.

JarkMackson said:
Okay... but that still doesn't put it in the premium phone category. Also, there may be some long term damage to the phone.
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Just get a LifeProof case phones sent supposed to be for swimming anyways all of these phones are rain resistant and spill resistant
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BaconSeeds said:
Just get a LifeProof case phones sent supposed to be for swimming anyways all of these phones are rain resistant and spill resistant
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I feel we're getting hung up on the waterproofing issue, probably the least important of the many with this phone. At least in my opinion.

JarkMackson said:
I've had the XL since Friday and I have to be honest, it's going back. I think Google really made a mediocre phone but released it at the perfect time. I still don't understand why everyone thinks this phone is so great and revolutionary.
I got this from Verizon as a replacement for my Note 7 and to be honest I was super excited about it because of Google Assistant. I was wrong to be excited. I don't see it being any more useful than what's already on every other Android phone when you say "OK Google" and in 6 months you'll be able to download the assistant onto any Android phone from the Play Store.
No microsd, no wireless charging, no waterproofing... why are we being charged so much for a phone that looks like the iPhone 5 plus? The bezels on a top and bottom are way too big for this phone (they are) and the two tone back of the phone makes it feel like cheap plastic, not to mention the antenna bands. Two years ago this phone would have been worth it, now it should really cost about half of what they're asking for it.
I have an iPhone 7 plus for work and I have an S7 Edge. Both are better choices but I'm going to keep the note 7, it seriously is the best phone I've ever used. I just hope it isn't my last.
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I don't understand, You said buy an iPhone 7 plus cause it's better. But iphone 7 plus doesn't have microad, wireless charging, bezels that are even larger than the pixel xl, and have just as many antenna bands. Looks is very objective, I agree that note 7, iPhone and s7 edge are all good looking phones, but I personally think the Pixel looks just as good.
So everything you criticized against the pixel, iPhone 7 plus are the same or worse. I will give you the water resistant part, that's about the only quality you mentioned that is better than the pixel.
I agree the note 7 is a pretty awesome phone, but good luck bringing it on a plane since it's illegal, and good luck getting support and updates since Samsung will do neither of those 2 things. I would hate to see someone discover some major bug and security threat with the note 7 and you will never get an update for it. Anyway enjoy your note 7, I myself will enjoy my pixel in 2 days.

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I don't understand, You said buy an iPhone 7 plus cause it's better. But iphone 7 plus doesn't have microad, wireless charging, bezels that are even larger than the pixel xl, and have just as many antenna bands. Looks is very objective, I agree that note 7, iPhone and s7 edge are all good looking phones, but I personally think the Pixel looks just as good.
So everything you criticized against the pixel, iPhone 7 plus are the same or worse. I will give you the water resistant part, that's about the only quality you mentioned that is better than the pixel.
I agree the note 7 is a pretty awesome phone, but good luck bringing it on a plane since it's illegal, and good luck getting support and updates since Samsung will do neither of those 2 things. I would hate to see someone discover some major bug and security threat with the note 7 and you will never get an update for it. Anyway enjoy your note 7, I myself will enjoy my pixel in 2 days.
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I wasn't really advocating specifically for the iPhone 7 plus, I'm really not much of an apple fan but you do get much more for your dollar. I hear you about the note 7, I think it really sucks that such an amazing phone had such a tragic end.
I really hope you do enjoy the pixel xl and post everything you like about it. I'm going to keep it for I think it's 30 days I have (with a Verizon business account) to give if more of a chance. Maybe it will grow on me or maybe I'm just honestly not using the assistant the way it was intended to be used.

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I wasn't really advocating specifically for the iPhone 7 plus, I'm really not much of an apple fan but you do get much more for your dollar. I hear you about the note 7, I think it really sucks that such an amazing phone had such a tragic end.
I really hope you do enjoy the pixel xl and post everything you like about it. I'm going to keep it for I think it's 30 days I have (with a Verizon business account) to give if more of a chance. Maybe it will grow on me or maybe I'm just honestly not using the assistant the way it was intended to be used.
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I'm not a big iPhone fan either, my wife uses an iPhone 7 so I occasionally use hers. I also used my dad's iPhone 7 plus for a day before giving it to him, didn't see anything it has that's better than the pixel. One thing I do like is the 7plus camera 2x zoom feature.
I just feel the pixel is getting some unfair treatment. Most people just can't accept the price, so they try to find reasons why it's not worth it. I really only see 1 or 2 things other flagship phones that actually is better. But then if you count in the unlimited storage for full size pictures and videos Google is giving you, and fast updates, those features alone more than make up for it.

I don't understand the point to this thread.
Trollololol

klau25 said:
I'm not a big iPhone fan either, my wife uses an iPhone 7 so I occasionally use hers. I also used my dad's iPhone 7 plus for a day before giving it to him, didn't see anything it has that's better than the pixel. One thing I do like is the 7plus camera 2x zoom feature.
I just feel the pixel is getting some unfair treatment. Most people just can't accept the price, so they try to find reasons why it's not worth it. I really only see 1 or 2 things other flagship phones that actually is better. But then if you count in the unlimited storage for full size pictures and videos Google is giving you, and fast updates, those features alone more than make up for it.
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But when your talking about paying more and getting less that is where the problem lies. I do agree with people about the water rating yes would be nice but not a necessity. The no ois is fine also.
But no sd card slot is googles way of trying to shove on line storage down our throat. Why should we use on line storage that is hackable and not secure.
Has no one read the reports of how most if not all the celebrity nude pics got hacked ? They are believed to be hacked from " the cloud " as these celebrities I doubt most gave them out or leaked them.
Also sd card storage is not only safer but it costs you no data use meaning not using high cost verizon data, and sd cards use way less battery power to access your files over on line storage.
Then there is the mono as in one speaker lol. Ok no front facing stereo speakers, but they could have copied the Htc 10 stereo speakers enabling the top speaker you use for calling to hear your calls on, which the audio would be so much better had they and louder. I highly doubt that Htc would not allow them to use that stereo speaker set up on the pixels.
Htc vs google is Htc saying sure google whatever you want we will make it happen lol.

I think the pixel is indeed overpriced. If it wasnt for the camera i would defintly go for a chinese phone.
I had a note 7, note 5 and a s6 before this, and the bloatware really hampers those phones.
Currently im on a huawei phone with only a 616 snapdragon and the os is way more reponsive than any of my samsungs.
So the pixel is my only real option to get a bloatware free phone with a flagship camera.
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I think the pixel is indeed overpriced. If it wasnt for the camera i would defintly go for a chinese phone.
I had a note 7, note 5 and a s6 before this, and the bloatware really hampers those phones.
Currently im on a huawei phone with only a 616 snapdragon and the os is way more reponsive than any of my samsungs.
So the pixel is my only real option to get a bloatware free phone with a flagship camera.
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Like everyone else, I lament the demise of the Note 7 which in my mind was the best smartphone ever. I exchanged for the S7 Edge and though likeable, the VZW bloatware bogged it down. I also found it difficult to type on due to the curved screen edges and the keyboard felt a bit more cramped than Note 7 thanks to slightly smaller screen real estate: I made more typing/swyping mistakes. I did load the Unlocked firmware and what a difference it made as the phone was faster and battery improved tremendously. But, I did return it yesterday and my Pixel XL arrives tomorrow, so am keeping fingers crossed I like it. I can always return the Pixel and either wait for LG V20 or go back to Edge (but by that time we will be in November time frame and just a few months away from any Samsung newer Galaxy model) or continue using my 6P which still serves me well.

Nexus 6p to Essential!

Im really thinking about the Essental, its pretty much down to this or G Pixel 2 XL, , but the price point and features of the essential are way better, it looks better too, specwise they are very similiar.
I love Project Fi though , i pay only what use , so if my plan is $60 bucks but i only use $20, i pay $20, thats the thing about the Pixel, but at over a $1000 bucks it looks like the Essential with $60/ unlimited by Sprint is a better deal
Anyone else coming from 6P, ive been a Nitrogen rom guy since day one , i love the 6 p , but once you get the battery bug "25%" , the hardware fails quivkly and its time to move on , this is my second 6P ,
Also switching betweeen Sprint/tmobile/uscellular is really cool, however the best service abd what im on 99% of the time is Sprint anyway, its looking like the Essential is tge one
Im coming from.Nexus 6p, OnePlus One , Moto X developers, Note 2, S2 , Note and a few HTCs before that

Well camera is better in 6P and Pixel 2. More features in these phones, there are really no special things at all in essential. Don't get me wrong, i like that. Software is not mature enough, but the Oreo-beta seems Essential are going the right way. Lineage 14.1 is availible and its great. Lineage 15 on the way too. The size of the phone, and the overall quality of it is the best i've ever had! It's a great phone for the price and if price matters, this is a great alternative to pixel 2.

Get the essential phone. No regrats, YOLO swagin here on Oreo and magisk.
Don't get no ca ca lg made phone ?
I upgraded from the original ones one lineage and this phone is very similar in terms of software but very different, upgraded hardware.
Do you want something that already looks dated (pixel 2 or xl2) or do you want that flashy iPhone X look and save $500+ cash?
It's no brainer when you think about how fash technologies advance. Not worth the price and on top of that the stupid little issues they are having.
If I'm paying $1100+ for a phone it better be damn perfect and have the best build quality out there...the new pixels are not...get the essential

I moved from 6P to Essentials over a week ago originally due to the battery bug problem. I was tired of carrying around a battery pack and random phone shutdown at 35% battery. Disclosure, I'm not a techy or an enthusiast so my feedback from just a regular user's perspective. Overall, I'm very happy with the quality and price I paid ($450). I was looking at Pixel 2xl, LG V30 but the design/build with the attractive price point of Essential sealed the deal. The camera is pretty decent. I have no complaints about it. I sideloaded Google camera app and used both Essential and Google apps. I don't find much difference between the two. The pictures from Google app seem to be brighter but Essential app seem quicker to me. Battery is excellent but that's sort of a low bar coming from 6P with battery issue. Software-wise, I'm ok with not being on Oreo it didn't impact my daily use much and overall the softwares on the phones are ok. I think to me this is the best-looking android phones I have ever seen. The build with premium materials and the design look great and feel great in your hands. With the hardware spec not much different from Pixel 2 or LG V30 and the right pricing, I'm willing to compromise somewhat and I was extremely happy with it. Hope this helps.

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I moved from 6P to Essentials over a week ago originally due to the battery bug problem. I was tired of carrying around a battery pack and random phone shutdown at 35% battery. Disclosure, I'm not a techy or an enthusiast so my feedback from just a regular user's perspective. Overall, I'm very happy with the quality and price I paid ($450). I was looking at Pixel 2xl, LG V30 but the design/build with the attractive price point of Essential sealed the deal. The camera is pretty decent. I have no complaints about it. I sideloaded Google camera app and used both Essential and Google apps. I don't find much difference between the two. The pictures from Google app seem to be brighter but Essential app seem quicker to me. Battery is excellent but that's sort of a low bar coming from 6P with battery issue. Software-wise, I'm ok with not being on Oreo it didn't impact my daily use much and overall the softwares on the phones are ok. I think to me this is the best-looking android phones I have ever seen. The build with premium materials and the design look great and feel great in your hands. With the hardware spec not much different from Pixel 2 or LG V30 and the right pricing, I'm willing to compromise somewhat and I was extremely happy with it. Hope this helps.
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Same here. Came from a 6P. Did not get the first Pixel because the screen was 5.5 and that was too small for me. Got one of the first essential phones that came out. Had some bugs and they fixed it. Looked into the Pixel XL. Like the larger screen but the price is absurd when you get basically the same with the Essential. Running Oreo beta. No other kids, root or such. Phone works well for me. Camera is adequate for my needs.

Also came from 6P & I freaking love the Essential phone. The build quality is phenomenal and I can get by with the camera. Google didn't do it right to many issues with pixel 2. Go with Essential you won't regret it.

Came from a 6p as my battery was dying at 40% and I bought my phone from best buy instead of google so google could care less that their phone failed me. got the $160 deal on the phone from sprint and liking it so far way better battery camera is decent with the google app and is pretty snappy. the bugs can be annoying but i think it will be good once oreo is out of beta I Hope. really just happy I don't have to carry around my batter pack anymore.

DAC.IT said:
Im really thinking about the Essental, its pretty much down to this or G Pixel 2 XL, , but the price point and features of the essential are way better, it looks better too, specwise they are very similiar.
I love Project Fi though , i pay only what use , so if my plan is $60 bucks but i only use $20, i pay $20, thats the thing about the Pixel, but at over a $1000 bucks it looks like the Essential with $60/ unlimited by Sprint is a better deal
Anyone else coming from 6P, ive been a Nitrogen rom guy since day one , i love the 6 p , but once you get the battery bug "25%" , the hardware fails quivkly and its time to move on , this is my second 6P ,
Also switching betweeen Sprint/tmobile/uscellular is really cool, however the best service abd what im on 99% of the time is Sprint anyway, its looking like the Essential is tge one
Im coming from.Nexus 6p, OnePlus One , Moto X developers, Note 2, S2 , Note and a few HTCs before that
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I came from a 6P to and Essential PH-1.
I sent mine back but I was in the first wave of phones with the high price and all the issues.
I have a LG G6 but I'd trade the LG G6 to get a PH-1 again since most of the issues are resolved and accessories are available.
Also at $500 it's the phone bargain of the year.
The feel and form factor are great.
The Quality feels every bit as good as the iPhone X.
Also the XL is bigger and doesn't feel as good. YMMV
Also the XL costs almost double.
Unless the camera is your thing go for the PH-1.

I went 6p to Axon7(great device by the way) to Essential. All were good upgrades over the other. My Essential camera is just as good and really has taken some better pics than either of the devices before it using Gcam. Only thing I miss is the accessories as I'm a case and protector whore.

Go For It
Two 6P's and a Moto X developer phone also. Essential phone is now my daily driver with absolutely no regrets. I'm using Verizon's networkdue to location. Only reasons not to get this would be if you have to have Fi, or have to have headsets. Super quality build, camera on 6P is slightly better, screen is worse on the 6P. For size, imagine that just the screen on the 6P is the size of the whole phone. Battery is so much better. Underwhelmed by the overpriced new Pixels.

Sprint has you sign up never telling you they dont have the goddamn device in stock, they wait til you order it , then send an email that says were sorry its back ordered tough **** asshole , wont have any til christmas, but we are still charging you fees and the overnight shipping and anything else, thats piss poor

I canceled and gave my opinion of the way Sprint is f ucking people , they never mention anywhere that they dont have the phone instock and encourage you to use overnight shipping if you do it before 2 pm for $10 bucks, once you sign up, they send an email and blame the manufacturers of not having enough devices, if this was a first run fone id say ok , this fone came out in august, uts your fwult Sprint and lying to public is bull****

i have some experience of what you have so let me give my 2 cents.
i came from HTC M9 and Moto X Pure on Sprint. i still have my SERO-P Plan but instead i dont lease phones (because they make me switch my plan). I bought the Essential phone in the end of Oct. at best buy and im quite happy with it compared to the other two. At first, i had to return it because it would not activate on sprint and we couldnt figure out why. so i returned it and got another one. the other one turns out though was slippery like glass and overheated so i returned it... then after reading the XDA forums i noticed there is a heavier weight on the new ones so we weighed it before i took it. the new one is actually much more grippy than the last even with dry hands.
what i love about it:
first... the battery life. easily the best in battery life. i get 5 to 6 hours on a normal day of on screen time
fast android updates. the newest updates you have to take out your sprint sim, put a gsm sim and from there it will take the updates
the size, beauty, and weight
internet speed is pretty good too, thought gigabit speed is a hard time of getting actual confirmation from them. ive received on a few occasions 70+ mbps in my small town where ive gotten 30 last time with m9 and x pure.
the look is amazing and pure android is the icing on the cake.
bad things are:
camera is been improved since ive gotten it but still needs work. the issue ive experienced is the graininess.
sometimes i miss calls and texts (not sure if its sprint or the phone itself) but what i noticed is its pretty good compared to the m9 as far as bars go. the x pure was better in signal but it never got the speeds i got from this phone.
usb-c dongle but there is a 3.5mm mod coming for the phone soon from what i heard
response could be improved a bit
overall i will say go for it. despite the negative review... i still give it a 4.5 out of 5 because its andy rubin who knows how to tweak android anyway he feels like it and so far they did alot of improvement with just software updates. do a speed test with your 6p and essential and see for yourself. post a video if you can

Well im still up in the air , im not gonna use Sprint , i dont like being lied to, you dont start a relationship with a lie it never ends well, that being said, i dig the Essential and it is unkocked, just wish Fi would accept it, im also looking at the Pixel 2 XL and the Razer , seen another flagship killer called the Blackview S8 and id jusmp for a samsung S8+ , if the bl.was unlocked , i wont ever buy a locked boot loader unless it can be unlocked , thanks for the review that was what i wanted

I came for the 6P as well and I have no regrets. I do miss the camera on the 6P but I tend to still carry it around for the camera and mess with the os with new roms.
With the gcam port the essential takes some good shots.
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Two 6P's and a Moto X developer phone also. Essential phone is now my daily driver with absolutely no regrets. I'm using Verizon's networkdue to location. Only reasons not to get this would be if you have to have Fi, or have to have headsets. Super quality build, camera on 6P is slightly better, screen is worse on the 6P. For size, imagine that just the screen on the 6P is the size of the whole phone. Battery is so much better. Underwhelmed by the overpriced new Pixels.
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@gman2pi or anyone on Verizon's network. how is the data speed and connectivity? My 6P has been having the shutdown issue at 50% and i missed emergency calls text today.
Was so frustrated that I ordered a battery tried to replace it and broke the damn phone and need one ASAP.
My concern has been the thread with the connectivity issues that the phone is having and slow data speeds.

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@gman2pi or anyone on Verizon's network. how is the data speed and connectivity? My 6P has been having the shutdown issue at 50% and i missed emergency calls text today.
Was so frustrated that I ordered a battery tried to replace it and broke the damn phone and need one ASAP.
My concern has been the thread with the connectivity issues that the phone is having and slow data speeds.
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I've had no issues and get the same bar strength and performance as my 6P in my usual locations. I only use phone, text, and primarily e-mail and some downloads on their network. I don't stream much on cellular and don't use Verizon visual voicemail or their other "special features" so can't comment on that.

Thanks, button presses.
Now I'm kind of salty because i got an email from best buy where i could have gotten one with the camera for $500 and i did not pull the trigger.

Came from og pixel, earpiece speaker blew, then went back to my nexus 6.. then this.. battery life is insane..on verizon signal seems great though i have missed some calls.. not sure why.. but great build quality.. no regrets
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Currently have a 6P that I replaced the battery on. I am ordering the pixel 2 xl. It's a lot more money, but the video stabilization is so bad on the essential I couldn't buy it.

worth it?

OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?

arknailed7754 said:
OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?
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Best phone I've owned.
I like the fact that it is dual SIM and works on Verizon.

OnePlus 7 is right around the corner. I'd wait for that if I were you.

arknailed7754 said:
OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?
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I just got this phone and it's the best phones I've had. I've only had all Galaxies but even with Ron's on my galaxy this phone is soooooo buttery smooth and very fast. It's basically everything I'd try to get my Samsung to be. This is a great choice but the OnePlus 7 is coming out soon so it's up to you.
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I've seen the standard op7 specs its not much different to be fair. Unless your going pro. Thanks for the responses. I'll get my op6t

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arknailed7754 said:
OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?
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Okay, so, after going through many brands and various experiences these are my 2 cents on the 6T: :fingers-crossed:
Camera is very good, but there are better options if you're purely focusing on photography
The performance is absolutely magnificent. Dominates the charts.
The UI experience is one of the best. OxygenOS not only instigates a fully seamless and stock experience, it offers a wide range of personalization options and really helps the user experience.
It is a stable OS, updated consistently and unlikely to experience unprecedented hard resets and bootloops.
Connectivity is brilliant, apart from the Bluetooth. I have been having some trouble with the automatic connection to eg wireless headsets and the instance of remaining connected or switching between audio sources, also had some issues with connecting to other devices.
Screen is great, yet I feel they could've done better with the resolution, than just 1080p.
Other features like the notch and the fingerprint sensor are huge pluses and good conversation starters, as they not only make the device an actual beauty but are recent innovations.
The build quality is great. Sturdy, durable, slick.
Lack of a headphone jack is a bit asinine, but does not in anyway overweight the advantages. Would still like to see a jack on the upcoming 7.
Great price. Value for money.
The lack of a stereo speaker and poor placement not only makes it easier for one to cover it up accidentally but also makes for an okay audio experience, which is unsatisfactory by my standards.

I love my 6T, but would sell it in a minute and buy a 7, if the 7 brings back a notification LED.

I got the OP6T McLaren edition in January and it has been a fun device. I agree with everything others said above.
For lack of notification LED light, there are a few apps you can use that work very well. And for the lack of stereo speakers, there is a magisk module that turns the earpiece into a second speaker which works well. :good:

I bought one because it seemed like the best value locally. My wife bought at the same time one of those $1400 apple doo hicky things after playing with my phone for 37 minutes she made me return her fancy designed in California apple and buy her a one plus 6t.

Well I got it. Brilliant phone

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I love my 6T, but would sell it in a minute and buy a 7, if the 7 brings back a notification LED.
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Lol anything that has been removed during the span of 6 and 6T will not ever return. Led is going away in almost every smartphone coming out this year even Samsung removed it in the s10 and it's all to make more screen and OnePlus will follow that trend just like with the notch...... And they're definitely not bringing back headphone jack.... Both 7 and 7 pro are going to be using an optical in display demerit similar to the one used in the 6T... Maybe the pro will have something better since it's the pro though (ultrasonic?) Maybe but I don't think so.....

This is the first device in a long time I'm not overly bothered about rooting. Very odd

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This is the first device in a long time I'm not overly bothered about rooting. Very odd
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Exactly. Everyone says to root it an get more, but in reality, unless you use a lot of magsik moduels then there is no reason to. Only thing g I did was turn my TMobile variant into an international one.

I only use root to block ads but there are solutions for that these days. Root is also use full to get rid of gapps.

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Exactly. Everyone says to root it an get more, but in reality, unless you use a lot of magsik moduels then there is no reason to. Only thing g I did was turn my TMobile variant into an international one.
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I switched mine to international. Rooted with magisk to block ads, enable dual speaker, also used swift installer to completely black out everything so I conserve battery. Viper 4 android. Installed TWRP as well. I agree though I was very impressed with everything stock. I've always had Samsung phones and this was everything I'd try to get my Samsung to be.
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Weirdly I did root but literally for the kernel. I'll not be changing the ROM..probably ever on this. Oxygen is sweet

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This is the first device in a long time I'm not overly bothered about rooting. Very odd
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Same here