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So I just used a 5x for the first time. Nexus 5 user here

Ps: big text incoming... I should write novels not Internet forum posts! Bear with me pls.
I've been kinda wanting to replace my Nexus 5 for a while now.
Things that annoy me are the battery that doesn't last that long - doesn't make it through the day if I happen to use it a bit more than the occasional message and photo. And the camera... I have taken freaking fantastic photos with this phone! Even though so many people complain, and fore sure there are way better cameras, Google Camera's HDR+ works wonders!
However.... Quite frequently I loose quick shots because the phone takes forever from 0 to Photo-snap! Focus is slow and unreliable...
Other than those two things, I really can't complain! Specially for the price! 400€ 32gb bright red model. Kinda cheap and unique as **** as you don't really see many screaming bright red phones around.
Still.... I want a reliable camera and a battery that lasts the day even when I use the phone at will.
So I started looking...
Galaxy S6 => awesome hardware! (even though the battery is kinda iffy) but failWiz makes it a no go for me!.. I was nearly going for it when I found out you can't even use alternative keyboards freely because Samsung's ram manager keeps pushing them out.
LG g4.. Meh camera ain't that fantastic, just has a great manual mode.
Nexus 6p ... Seems cool! But it's too big, and now that it's seemingly crappy internal structure design has been revealed... I'm not looking forward to pay over 630€ for a phone whose design had corners cut.
So I considered the 5x. Even though I hate the fake front speaker grill
It kinda checks all boxes.
But today, to my surprise I found one on exposition on a local electronics shop. First I was like "wow cool!" then after playing around with it for a while and comparing it to my N5 I was more like "Meh... Not paying 530€ for this."
The camera looks awesome, even though it didn't seem to snap pics that fast (was in low light ambient)
But it doesn't really perspire quality.
If it'd cost here the same it costs in the states, sure. Good deal!
But for this price... Doesn't seem worth jumping from the Nexus 5 to the 5x.
Did I miss something? What makes this phone fantastic?
I wanted to love it....but I walked away far from in love.

Yeah... Unless your N5 is crapping out, you really have no reason to replace it.
Only reason why I'm thinking the 5x is because after two years, it has some light wear and tear that drives my ocd nuts, as do a couple of hairline cracks at the sim tray and the volume rocker.
All I would expect from the 5 to the 5x is an improved camera, maybe slightly better battery, slightly improved SoC... And nexus imprint... Other than that, its the same phone. Which isn't a bad thing. The N5 was/is a great device, and if u add the above mentioned features, its worthy of a slightly bumped up price from it's predecessor
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Yeah mine is all cracked too (the plastic around it) and none of the cracks apparently related to falls o.o
First one was the between the audio-jack and the screen. One day... there was a crack there!.. awesome lol
Now there's another one bellow the volume rocker and one next to the sim-tray as well. Top notch built quality!! xD never complained cuz of the price...
The thing about the price bump is that the price bump in Europe isn't because of extra hardware, otherwise it would have the same bump in the States. No - it's most probably because google felt like joining the bandwagon of ripping off ppl in Europe! lol... Taxes? Sure there are more taxes here and import taxes, but not to cover that much difference in price I don't think.
So it makes it kinda hard to justify the price even if I was shopping for a phone from scratch, not for a swap.

If you want a fingerprint scanner and a better camera, but that's about it. Larger screen too. I really like my 5X, it replaced my S6 edge and I'm much more pleased with the 5X. My old man is using my original nexus 5, so I couldn't take that from him, but he's pleased with it.
I got used to using a fingerprint with the S6E and since Android pay wants a secure lock screen, it just made sense for me to get the 5X over finding another 5. But I'm in the States and it's cheaper here, so that helped with the decision too.

SrPintas said:
Yeah mine is all cracked too (the plastic around it) and none of the cracks apparently related to falls o.o
First one was the between the audio-jack and the screen. One day... there was a crack there!.. awesome lol
Now there's another one bellow the volume rocker and one next to the sim-tray as well. Top notch built quality!! xD never complained cuz of the price...
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Oh yeah... I have the one by the audio jack too lmao.
Nobody ever claimed the n5 had good build quality. It's always been described as feeling "cheap" and "plastic". I always thought mine might have came from minor drops until I read that virtually everyone has them lol.
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It's like an N5 that's improved in every way IMO. The downsides being it's physically larger and a bit more expensive.
Biggest improvements are battery life and the camera image quality.
However some examples of the more unexpected improvements that you notice once you start using the device for a while:
Charge speeds. I've not charged over night even once yet as a 30 minute charge is enough to get through a day (roughly 50%).
Skin temperature. This device stays much cooler than the N5 especially during lighter usage such as Streaming Netflix and browsing. Battery temperatures remain consistently cooler than the N5 at all times, especially gaming.
Fingerprint sensor and ambient display: Together make it feel like you're interacting with the device in a whole new way. No need to use the power button ever.

How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.

SrPintas said:
How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.
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It's awesome. I don't need to disable a single thing and my run times are similar to my N5 that had just about everything disabled.
It might only have an extra 400mAh but it feels like an extra 1000mAh. Part of that is because of Android 6.0 and Doze though.
Most of my results are in the 4-6 hours SoT range across 20+ hours. Lowest is 3 hours SoT across 20+ hours with weak signal mobile data usage and gaming. 50% manual brightness with most software features enabled.
Examples:
http://imgur.com/a/gVuT3
http://imgur.com/a/UhqdL

Sounds pretty good.
I rarely (never) see even 3h sot, much less 4 :'D
Sounds like I saw what the N5x has on offer pretty well.
The thing screwing it up is the EU price adjustment being even worse than it was with the N5

Ok, long post too... bear with me...
So, I had the exact same issues as you described. I loved my N5 and I've been using it daily for the past 2 years or so. The main reasons I wanted to change phones was battery life and the cameras, both rear and front facing. I do agree with you when you say that the N5 snapped some fantastic shots though. HDR+ really works wonders.
I considered a lot of options such as the Moto X Style/Pure, Nexus 6P, LG G4, Xperia Z5, Galaxy S6 or the OnePlus 2, but they're just too physically big. Can't carry around a phone that big. I'd have to buy new trousers because I wouldn't be able to fit it in any of my pockets
Also, Z5 and S6 are way too expensive and I find it morally wrong to spend so much money on a phone... personal thing...
After a lot of reading and thinking, I did get the 5X in the end. I'm in the UK so I paid slightly less than 530€ (£350 which is around 485€). I must say that I'm definitely happy with the upgrade.
As for the camera, when you say it doesn't perspire quality, you're completely wrong. The camera on this phone is FREAKING amazing, the quality is outstanding and the focus is lovely! The sensor captures a LOT of detail! I mean, A LOT OF DETAIL! Can't really say about the colours cause I'm colour-blind (lol), but I find them spot on (a little bit on the dark side perhaps but nothing to worry about, you can always bump up the brightness in edit mode). The aperture is quite good which makes the macro mode fantastic as well (depth of field related). Even though I got some decent shots with the original N5, this camera is on a completely different level, quality wise! As for speed, I find the camera app a little bit to slow at times but this is a software issue rather than an hardware one. The focus is fast and accurate. Most likely the app slow down will be addressed in a future app update.
Front facing camera is also quite decent. Wide angle is awesome for selfies and it also captures a lot of detail. Coming from the 1.3MP camera on the N5, this one is a welcome improvement, trust me!
As for battery life, don't get your hopes up. Don't get me wrong, battery usage is way better than the N5 and it does last a full WORKING day (which I wouldn't get out of the N5... I'm a very heavy user) but it's no Z3/Z5 compact. I'd say you can get 30/35% more usage time on the 5X. While it might not seem a lot but I've been getting a lot more Screen on Time and standby usage has also improved. I feel like doze works way better on the 5X than on the N5, probably due to the revamped hardware (note that always on sensors on the 808 SoC are much more battery efficient). Quick charge works wonders too! Charge it for 10/15 minutes and you're good for another 4/5h of usage. Perfect for when you have a night out, just charge it for 10 mins before leaving work and you're good to go!
Chipset-wise, while it might not seem a worthy upgrade, I have to say that the 808 performs exceptionally well. The 64bit architecture DOES MAKE a difference although by looking at the specs on paper you won't really tell. Even though my N5 was mostly snappy, it would lag and struggle at times. I've yet to experience that on the 5X and I have the exact same apps/setup I had on my N5. Definitely an improvement on performance too.
As for the rest, it's pretty much the same experience as the N5. Build quality, android experience, sound (no stereo speakers, bummer, but it's the same as the N5 so...), screen quality. I was happy with what I had and I'm happy with what I have now
By the way, two features I didn't care much for were the fingerprint sensor and the ambient display. While they may not be deal breakers, both things are quite a nice to have. Regarding the fingerprint sensor, its position is perfect and it works almost flawlessly! Also it's fast... like, insanely FAST! The ambient display helps battery and it works good, not great but good (doesn't always kick in perfectly). I'm guessing this could be addressed on a future software update as well. Again, it's not a deal breaker but it's definitely a great addition to an already good phone.
Sorry for the long post, hope it helps

Wow
Don't apologize for the long text! Not only I don't mind reading but that's exactly what I was hoping to find: someone in a similar situation!
I wasn't aware the price was lower in the UK! Neat... Might be worth importing if I travel or someone close does. Any chance of a insurance on purchase for damage or theft?
Oh and regarding what I wrote about it not traspiring quality. After I read again what I wrote I though it might be confusing because I didn't change subject. I meant the device itself, not the camera, when I wrote it didn't transpire quality and thus didn't feel worth the price.
Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
The vibration engine felt way better even though I could only test it by inputting a not-recognized finger print!
The buttons seemed very nice even though I've read bad things about them on several places

In norway you can get a carrier lock discount, witch makes the price of the phone itself the same as in the us. No option to do that where you are buying it?

SrPintas said:
Wow
Don't apologize for the long text! Not only I don't mind reading but that's exactly what I was hoping to find: someone in a similar situation!
I wasn't aware the price was lower in the UK! Neat... Might be worth importing if I travel or someone close does. Any chance of a insurance on purchase for damage or theft?
Oh and regarding what I wrote about it not traspiring quality. After I read again what I wrote I though it might be confusing because I didn't change subject. I meant the device itself, not the camera, when I wrote it didn't transpire quality and thus didn't feel worth the price.
Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
The vibration engine felt way better even though I could only test it by inputting a not-recognized finger print!
The buttons seemed very nice even though I've read bad things about them on several places
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I got the 32Gb by the way, 16Gb is £300 although I wouldn't recommend 16Gb to anyone given the fact that there's no micro sd slot...
It is possible to get an insurance, yes. I guess it's something like £12/mo but I don't know what it covers (probably 1 screen replacement, theft I don't know... check carphone warehouse for more details). Also, I don't know if you'll be able to do it since you don't live in the UK.
Quality wise, I'd say if you feel like the N5 has a cheap build quality, you'll have the same opinion about the 5X. This phone doesn't have an aluminium unibody neither it does have gorilla glass 4. It is not an iphone 6s/htc m9/6P/etc, they had to cut costs somewhere I guess. It won't win any design awards either, that's for sure. Having said that, if you feel ok with the N5, you'll notice no difference handling the 5X. If you (because you're upgrading to a new device) expect the new phone to have a more premium feel (as "they" put it and has been taunted pretty much everywhere...) you won't get that from the 5X.
Vibration engine is sometimes annoyingly loud and tbh, not quite strong. But does the job I guess, I feel it vibrating in my hand and in my pocket, I've yet to miss a call cause I didn't feel it vibrating plus, I don't think that will be a reason to/not to buy the phone.
The button are, well, buttons... I've seen people complaining about the N5 having ceramic buttons and the 5X plastic ones. My thought about that is... who cares? Because of the fingerprint sensor I'm using a power button a lot less and the volume rocker has a rather nice position as it's placed towards the centre rather on the top of the phone. I find it convenient because the headphone jack is on the bottom so, when listening to music, my phone is faced down in my back pocket and I can easily adjust the volume without hassle.
In my opinion, I don't really care about aluminium unibody bull****. It gives a premium feeling, ok that's fair enough, if you're into that. Although if you're into that, you'll probably, won't be looking at the 5X Also, I rather have a phone that won't give me an heart attack when (notice the "when" rather than "if"!) I drop it

I'm there with you.
"Premium" quality comes with ups and downs.
I'm a but into design so I like a good looking device just like I nice a well designed car.
However I also drop em once in a while xD Nexus has proven incredibly durable (think I'm lucky too), I doubt a S6 or iPhone would survive some of the drops the n5 did.
When i asked about quality and feeling I didn't mean to compare with the more design oriented devices. But compare it with the N5 and other plastic chassi phones. The 5x sure is plastic, but it felt more "solid" in my hand than the N5. But I can't be sure cuz of the alarm dongle that was stuck to it.
On the buttons... So what if the n5 has ceramic?... Nice touch, but they are have some play. 5x's seemed more solid even if not "clickier" like most people seem to like

HabueN said:
In norway you can get a carrier lock discount, witch makes the price of the phone itself the same as in the us. No option to do that where you are buying it?
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I wish. But so far no carrier has it or has announced anything regarding it

SrPintas said:
How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.
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Have you tried replacing your original phone battery? Mine was getting pretty bad and I replaced it with a new one bought off ebay a month ago. I now comfortably get a day and a half of moderate use. SOT time around 3.5 hours and doze is doing wonders compared to Lollipop. When kept overnight (11:00 pm to 6:00 am) the battery loses only 3% and I will take that any day!
I think people need to understand that a lithium ion battery will start falling down in performance considerably when approaching its life limit. Now comparing to the N5X I don't consider it worth the upgrade but will most likely switch to the next Nexus in October 2016.

sshariff said:
Have you tried replacing your original phone battery? Mine was getting pretty bad and I replaced it with a new one bought off ebay a month ago. I now comfortably get a day and a half of moderate use. SOT time around 3.5 hours and doze is doing wonders compared to Lollipop. When kept overnight (11:00 pm to 6:00 am) the battery loses only 3% and I will take that any day!
I think people need to understand that a lithium ion battery will start falling down in performance considerably when approaching its life limit. Now comparing to the N5X I don't consider it worth the upgrade but will most likely switch to the next Nexus in October 2016.
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I've thought about it. But kinda dozed off the idea when I didn't know which battery to choose =P

I replaced the battery on my N5 two months ago so I speak out of experience. It has gotten better but 5X's battery still performs better than a new battery on my N5.
Battery life is never linear as it depends on each person usage. I personally have everything on all the time... I rely heavily on Google's services like location tracking, location based reminders and I "need" a always-on data connection. Given this premise, my battery is bound not to last as long as other peoples' but I think starting to turn features off in order to preserve battery is not the way to go. I want to fully experience my phone and I'm aware that may cause battery drains. That's why I have a power bank ;pp
Regarding design, I'm very picky too, trust me. I do, however prefer minimalistic designs and both the N5 and 5X suit my design obsession. Again, this is also a matter of personal taste...

SrPintas said:
Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
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Won't ask any questions, and if u answer, I'll say I never knew u. Lol
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H0tep said:
Won't ask any questions, and if u answer, I'll say I never knew u. Lol
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Ahahahah xD
It was in exposition in a major electronics shop and stuck to the counter with an alarm dongle and "chain" cable.
Didn't really use it at home or something with the dongle still attached xD

Anyone else coming from N5? How are you adjusting?

I'm coming from the Nexus 5 and I was worried about the size of the N6P. I went to best buy and messed with the iPhone 6s plus to get a feel for the size and it didn't seem too bad but now that I got it, it seems bigger even though they are pretty much the same. Maybe I'm just not used to it yet but its gonna take some adjusting.
Anyone got any stories of how they been adjusting? No more one handed use for me.. Well for some things I probably can still use one hand but for a lot of things.. Not soo much.

Yes I just came from the n5. The first 5 days honestly I didn't like this phone. It's just too damn big. But now I'm starting to love it. I swore for 2 years I would not use these huge phones but I might be coming around.

I skipped the N6, had to jump on the 6P though. I adjusted fine. This was after doing nothing but crying about just wanting an N5 refresh. After looking at the 5X and 6P the decision was easy.
My N5 looks so small in my hand now. All that needs to happen now is that jeans front pockets are made maybe an inch or two deeper. No I don't wear skinny jeans. And I'm about 6'2" so I haven't had much problem with the size, just a muscle memory adjustment like every other new phone.
Also hate cases and screen protectors, using it naked. Loving it.
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[hfm] said:
I skipped the N6, had to jump on the 6P though. I adjusted fine. This was after doing nothing but crying about just wanting an N5 refresh. After looking at the 5X and 6P the decision was easy.
My N5 looks so small in my hand now. All that needs to happen now is that jeans front pockets are made maybe an inch or two deeper. No I don't wear skinny jeans. And I'm about 6'2" so I haven't had much problem with the size, just a muscle memory adjustment like every other new phone.
Also hate cases and screen protectors, using it naked. Loving it.
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Yeah I'm the same way. I skipped the N6 and even when they were announced I was like no that's too big and I always just wanted a 5 refresh but something about the 6P caught my attention at some point.
I prefer cases and screen protectors though lol

I used both my N6 and N5 and originally was going to upgrade the N5 to the N5X. I didn't like the memory options of the N5X and got the N6P instead. I was really becoming uncomfortable with the N5 due to its feeling too small compared to the N6, which is my primary phone. Now with the N6P I can move easily between the two.

2 years with my Nexus 5. Almost a week with My Nexus 6p. Love it. Now when I pick up my Nexus 5. It seem so small lol.

Picked up my N5 yesterday after a week with the 6P and it felt wrong. Far too small and bulky. Only thing I would have changed it to move the volume buttons up higher as you can nudge them reaching across to press the far side of the screen. Other than that I can't fault its size or feel.

I used the N5 for a whole year. Then I got the N6, and I adjusted fine, but I missed the perfect size of the N5. Now I got the N6P, and it's much better in the hand than the N6, so no problems here, I'm loving this phone!

Less than a week with 6P, and adjusting. Love it!
Pickup the 5 (using it now) Love it!
Need a case with a SIM cutout...
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Came from a N5 after skipping N6 and only took a few hours to get used to the 6P. Phone is great but had to tweak resolution as, like the N5, text was too big. Now running 500 instead of default of 560.
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Infamous512 said:
I'm coming from the Nexus 5 and I was worried about the size of the N6P. I went to best buy and messed with the iPhone 6s plus to get a feel for the size and it didn't seem too bad but now that I got it, it seems bigger even though they are pretty much the same. Maybe I'm just not used to it yet but its gonna take some adjusting.
Anyone got any stories of how they been adjusting? No more one handed use for me.. Well for some things I probably can still use one hand but for a lot of things.. Not soo much.
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The phones sizes are now becoming like TV. When you move from 32 inch to 55 inch screen for the first couple of days it looks so big. And after a while you feel like, damn I should have gotten the 65 inch instead. Same will be true for the big screen smartphone. At first it looks to big, bulky, and ugly. After getting used to, once you'll hold back the Nexus 5, you'll feel like you are holding a baby and you'll quickly look for your Nexus 6P [emoji4]
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On the fence about buying a Nexus 6P; Convince Me

On the fence; convince me.
So, still rocking the nexus 5, but it's time to upgrade since the mic is giving out (my fault for being rough replacing the screen without a heat gun lol).
I know I want a nexus device but I'm not sure if I want to super-size my screen. I've never owned a "phablet", in fact I used to dislike them, but now that they're more common place I might reconsider. My hands are average if not on the larger side so I'm sure I'd get used to it, but do I want to? One handed use is nice when necessary, but is it ever absolutely necessary?
The beefier speakers, cpu, ram, battery, and screen (AMOLED) are all turn-on's. But I want to now how the transition was for all of you, be it to the nexus 6, Note, 6p, or whatever other device was your first big screen phone. Any regrets, big or small? Will you ever down size? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Stop worrying. Once you go phablet, you want want to go back. Plus, front facing mothereffing speakers! I rock the piss out of my nexus 6 and the speakers are just so, damn, good. Back on the size subject, you adapt to the size very fast and I hear the 6p is a narrower device than my N6, so I say go for the 6p.

Why not go with 5x

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Why not go with 5x
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It's between the 6p and the 5x for me, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for the jump in size.
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I hear the 6p is a narrower device than my N6, so I say go for the 6p.
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Good to hear, I kinda thought the 6 was a little uncomfortable to handle with its size and design. Plus I prefer the more square design of the 6p over the roundness of the 6.
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I came from Galaxy S6, no regrets. I did own the Note 4 before that but after you make the adjustment you'll like having a larger screen.

I came from a Moto X 2014. The device feels huge but very premium and thin. The camera and screen are insanely good. I ended up returning it because when playing music through the aux it would stop randomly. Idk if it was hardware or software but it was annoying. The speakers are good as well but each sound a bit different. I assume it's what sits behind each speakers that gives it the effect that one is louder than the other. I also had weird stutters with apps like instagram, snapchat, and the settings menu. Ultimately I don't think I'll repurchase the device because of its size. I had it for a week and got used to making adjustments to handle a big device but it's so much easier for me to manage my Moto X 2014.
I also have the 5x sitting on my desk. I don't think I can justify the price to upgrade from my Moto X 2014 so that one will also be returned. You might want to check it out. It's more of the workhorse of the two and feels really good in the hand.

You get used to the phone being big for the most part. I was using a phone with a 5 inch screen temporarily after having a samsung note 3 and I did like how much easier it was to handle the phone but at the same time I missed the bigger screen. You need to decide yourself which is more important to you so you don't have buyers remorse.

Just buy my old N6. You'll love it. It's nowhere near as awesome as my 6P, but you'll love it. Yup.

You will adapt to its size after a hour or so of use. You will begin to realize that it isn't even that huge anymore.

Get another Nexus 5 for $100 on Ebay and enjoy life.

I'd love to share my thoughts about this phone with you. I have a lot and I also come from the Nexus 5 and skipped the Nexus 6 entirely because of its size. So strap in...
I was also on the fence back in mid October. I just couldn't make the jump yet. The 5X didn't seem like much of an upgrade to me. It just seemed like they remade the 5 again. I'm not here to argue specs with anyone, but personally, I wasn't too impressed. I was impressed with the 6P specs though. That felt more right in the way of an upgrade. I didn't really need an upgrade, but the screen is slightly raised on my N5. It clicks when you press the right spot. It does not impact functionality at all and it's been like that about 6 months now. I got my N5 brand new on launch, so it held up pretty well I'd say. I have a lot of friends who (despite my best efforts) are with the dark side and recently got the 6+ and 6S+ iPhones. They all justify the size of the phone with the real estate for gaming and movies. I get that, I do. I'd much rather game and watch movies on my 55" HDTV then on my 24" in the bedroom. After playing some games and checking out Netflix on their phones, I did like the bigger size in that sense. That being said, I got the phone delivered to me on November 9th and I am still getting used to it. If you've ever held a 6+, that is what you can expect. I compared my 6P to a buddies 6+ and they are exactly the same size.
My best advice to you (and anyone else in a similar situation) would be to be please, please, please, please, please do not let the threads in the 6P General forum scare you. There's a lot of threads about a lot of defects and issues. They have already acknowledged and addressed these issues and aside from a few bad eggs, from what I've seen the RMA's that have been going out have been better. I have 0 issues with my device. Everything is cut and lined up properly. All flush. Nothing is loose or raised. I decided to make the jump and was ready to order from Project Fi the moment I finally got my invite from them. That happened on 10/16/2015. I ordered the 32gb graphite. I love the overall look and feel of it way more than the N5 which I could not get enough of at launch. The build quality of the phone is amazing. The weight of it and the metal touch make it feel extremely high quality. That's the one thing I always thought Google could take a lesson from Apple in. Despite my opinion on Apple and iOS, I could always appreciate the build quality of the iPhones. They felt so solid and great to hold. None of my phones gave me the same satisfaction as iPhones did. I never had one, but I've played with my friends. It always felt so legit while my phones always felt like cheap lightweight plastic toys. Google finally stepped up in that sense. I have had mine since the 9th of November and so far I have not had a single issue as found in this forum. The phone still sits completely flush on the front or back. No wobbling when you press one of the edges. No bends, the back glass hasn't spontaneously cracked. Everything works 100%. It's solid. It's legit.
The feel is phenomenal. The first thing you will notice is the feel of the aluminum. It feels great. No, I mean great. Amazing, even. The one downside being that it is slippery. Keep a good grip on it. Don't try to balance it on your leg or clothes when you're sitting down. It'll slip. Besides that though? The first time you leave you phone idling in a cool room and pick it up. Oh man, I was not prepared for that. I would compare it to flipping your pillow over to put your face on the cool side. You get the same satisfaction. It's refreshing, every single time. 10/10 would recommend. You don't get that with the N5, no sir.
The next thing that I noticed right away was the haptic feedback. As soon as I pressed the home button I giggled like a schoolgirl. I don't know if my N5 had a defective motor (known issue, I know), but it never, ever felt like that. It feels so much crisper, cleaner and a lot more tight. My N5 kind of sounds and feels loose and rattly. Another thing I love, which isn't really a selling point...at all is that when you listen to the haptic feedback in a dead-quite room, it makes a neat sound. The vibrations just feel deeper and sharper. I can't get enough.
My screen is perfect. Not a single issue. There is no color or hue defects at all. There is no raised edges. Everything is 100% in this department. As mentioned earlier, it is awesome for movies and gaming if that is your thing. I don't really game much besides N64 emulators and as far as videos and movies goes, Netflix and YouTube is pretty much all I use.
Next up is the front facing speakers. The front facing speakers. The front facing speaks blew me away. Coming from a Nexus 5? Absolutely blew my mind. I had both phones, one in my left hand one in my right. I opened YouTube on both and I opened up 'Who Are You' by The Who on both. I played it first on my N5, rooted with V4A installed and finely tuned. My thoughts? "OK, sounds pretty good. Yeah." I had my Viper settings to my liking and that's what I was used to. The very second I pressed play on the 6P I had the biggest grin on my face. It was so LOUD and the sound was coming right at me! You know how when you hold the Nexus 5, half of the time you cover the speaker holes with your hand? It was just the way you held it and the placement of the speaker? Especially in landscape when trying to watch a video... I hated that sooooo much. I love these speakers so much. Some people here say the sound quality is bad, but I haven't noticed that at all. No crackling or popping. Nothing sounds distorted or washed out, but there are others out there a lot more judgmental in those regards than myself.
USB Type-C. Now when I mentioned earlier than I am still getting used to the phone, this is primarily what I mean. I cannot seem to shake the habit of slightly twirling the cable and looking down at it to make sure it's facing the right direction before plugging it in. You don't need to do that anymore, just plug and go. If I don't think about it and just go to plug in, I find myself doing that almost every time.
The buttons. The buttons are nice. They have a clean, crisp click when you press them. Almost like a snap. I like the way the power button is textured. It feels nice when you slide your finger over it. While on topic of the power button, I love the double press to access camera feature. I can't tell you how many pictures I missed (animal or insect that got spooked) waiting to open my N5 camera, even from the lockscreen. Even if the 6P is idle, a quick double press of the power button and the camera is open instantly. It's so fast, I'm blown away every time. I still haven't got used to that either. Oh and the 240 FPS is so cool, just make sure you do it in well lit places otherwise it comes out grainy. I don't want to go as far as to say potato quality, but you'll see what I mean if you try in a dimmer setting.
The only, and I mean only beef I have with the buttons is the placement. I am left handed. The way I hold and use all of my phones is that I primarily support my phones with my right hand and use my left for scrolling, reaching across the screen, zooming, etc. As a result, I got into the habit of using my right hand for single handed use. It just doesn't feel right to use only my left hand with my phones. It's awkward and just not natural for me. So when I want to take a screenshot, I do have to use both hands. My right thumb and then my left hand for the power button, otherwise I end up capturing a bug report. I can take screenshots one handed if I use my left hand, but I just don't do that, ever. Other than that I have no issues with that. I do not have any rattling from them during normal usage or movement of the phone. They do slightly rattle if I shake the phone quite hard. However having button rattle ONLY when I shake it hard enough to see if they rattle is not a turn of for me, at all.
The battery. I am honestly so incredibly impressed with the battery, I cannot even begin to tell you. On my Nexus 5, I would take all sorts of measures to improve battery life as well as screen on time. Granted I did have some things working against me like the Viper drivers and things of that nature, but I would keep the brightness around 50%, usually slightly under. NFC, location, etc. was all off and I was pretty impressed with 3-3.5 hours of screen on time, per charge. With my 6P I get 6 hours of screen on time every single charge. That is with the screen at 100% full brightness at all times. Nothing is turned off either. This is with the phone bare stock. It isn't unlocked or rooted, it is completely factory stock plus about 80 or so user apps installed. At least an hour of YouTube throughout the day, probably more. I also stream Spotify sometimes, not too much though. Aside from that just web browsing. XDA, Facebook, Google+, things of that nature. As far as the brightness goes, I'm not too worried about burn in as I never got any on my Galaxy Nexus and I had that for almost 4 years. The idle drain is insane. I went an entire work day without my phone. I left it in the car and at the end of the day when I went back, it was at 99%. 8 hour shift on full bars LTE. I often find myself using the phone and after so long I'm like yeah it's about time to charge it before it dies. Since I'm used to the Nexus 5 and all, but I pull the shade down and see like 40% left and I can't help but laugh. I love it. Love love love it.
Now as far as the size goes. If that's all you're worried about... Do yourself a favor and go order the phone right now. Just do it. I was so against it myself, but you do get used to it. You really do. Eventually you get the hang of using it one handed no problem. You kinda have to tilt it in towards your palm so you can reach your thumb across to the furthest corner, but that's only if you happen to need to press whatever is in the furthest corner. Texting in landscape was a bit of a curve as well. I don't have huge hands, but I don't have small girly hands either. That's a lot of phone to cover. Instead of just resting it in your fingers, you kind of have to set it further back on your fingers to cradle it. That way you have a bit more reach with your thumbs. It took some getting used to, but now I can text one handed, or landscape with no issues. Believe me though, when you first try you will probably say nope, this isn't happening I am returning it. Don't. You get over that. Really, you do. Everything else about this phone will make you fall in love before you are inconvenienced by the size even once. Seriously, pull the trigger. You want to and you know it, stop kidding yourself. I just got used to the size though, I didn't really fall in love. I would say if they made a phone with the same specs and they found a happy medium between the N5 and the 6P as far as size goes, I'd surely downsize and get it. Not until this phone put in it's 2+ years though. I wouldn't ever send it back to get a smaller screen now that I actually have it.
I have no real complaints with any aspects of the phone. It's been so great I honestly haven't even wanted to unlock or root it yet. Now that Cataclysm is available- and a user over in that thread commented that with systemless root he was able to successfully add cards and complete purchases with Android Pay, I may reconsider. Solid phone and a solid experience using it. Like you said, you have slightly larger hands, so you certainly will acclimate to the size of the phone in little to no time. I hope I could answer some of your questions about the device and alleviate some of your concerns! Let me know if you have any other questions!
tl;dr - Do it and welcome to the 6P forums.

It's OK to sit on the fence. Just make sure not to sit on the phone... It will bend.

6P imo is the best android phone you can buy right now, its a full package, much easier to hold than the N6 too

Jimmy_Noname said:
So, still rocking the nexus 5, but it's time to upgrade since the mic is giving out (my fault for being rough replacing the screen without a heat gun lol).
I know I want a nexus device but I'm not sure if I want to super-size my screen. I've never owned a "phablet", in fact I used to dislike them, but now that they're more common place I might reconsider. My hands are average if not on the larger side so I'm sure I'd get used to it, but do I want to? One handed use is nice when necessary, but is it ever absolutely necessary?
The beefier speakers, cpu, ram, battery, and screen (AMOLED) are all turn-on's. But I want to now how the transition was for all of you, be it to the nexus 6, Note, 6p, or whatever other device was your first big screen phone. Any regrets, big or small? Will you ever down size? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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You'd be surprised how quickly you get used to it. I went from a smaller screen to the OnePlus One and it was a pretty big jump, but I was used to it within a few hours. Now I have the 6P. You won't want to go back to a smaller screen.
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Try it and probably never look back!

I had a Nexus 5X until my 6P came in. Trust me, it's night and day and although the size difference is VRY noticeable, it's not unbearable. You're getting a lot of phone for a rock bottom price. NOT saying the 5X was bad at all, actually quite different. I just wanted the extra screen real estate.

I came from an N5, had the same phablet reservations. But after seeing what Google did with the 5X, it wasn't quite what I was hoping it would be. I love the 6P!
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I had a Nexus 5X until my 6P came in. Trust me, it's night and day and although the size difference is VRY noticeable, it's not unbearable. You're getting a lot of phone for a rock bottom price. NOT saying the 5X was bad at all, actually quite different. I just wanted the extra screen real estate.
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Returned my 6p for a 5x and could not be happier. The 6p is a very big and long phone.
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Got my pixel XL early and all I can say is........

Wow. Coming from a LG V10, which I loved, I feel like this is def a decent step forward. I have yet to see how batter power is but for now I'm impressed with the software and how fast and smooth the phone is. I haven't started gaming on it yet. Mainly setting up apps for work. I got mine this morning at 10.

I'm coming from Nexus 6P and i'm equally impressed!! Enjoying it so far!!!

I haven't gotten mine yet, but I'm coming from the Note 7. I hope I am equally impressed

Coming from N7 and I am sooooo happy right now. Super super fast and smooth absolutely no lag like N7 had. All I can say is WOW (copied OP, but so true)
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I like the pixel xl MUCH more than I do my 6P. I especially like the size and screen more. I always thought the 6P was too big/too tall though.
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gwallers said:
I'm coming from Nexus 6P and i'm equally impressed!! Enjoying it so far!!!
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Are you gonna sell your 6?
I'm gonna wait awhile on the pixel.

nutpn said:
Are you gonna sell your 6?
I'm gonna wait awhile on the pixel.
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Haven't really put much thought to it but it does have a crack in top left of screen. Still works fine just hairline crack. Huawei wanted 163 to repair. Decided to get pixel xl and couldn't he happier. Best Android phone I have owned and I have had all the top tier devices.

I work for a Verizon retailer, we got our stock in today and I really enjoyed messing with it.
Makes it REALLY hard to wait for mine to ship from google in November....
Coming from S7 Edge

Hitman3984 said:
I work for a Verizon retailer, we got our stock in today and I really enjoyed messing with it.
Makes it REALLY hard to wait for mine to ship from google in November....
Coming from S7 Edge
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I've got a November ship date also and checked out an XL today. Really nice phone. I think we'll get it earlier than stated.

dmb219 said:
I've got a November ship date also and checked out an XL today. Really nice phone. I think we'll get it earlier than stated.
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can hope

I share everyone's sentiments here. I received my XL today.
A few things...
1) Coming from a 6P that I love, I am in love with the size of the XL. It doesn't feel like a big phone. It's not unwieldy and it feels more pocketable. I know the size difference isn't huge on paper, but it's more tightly engineered. It doesn't feel top heavy. It's just more comfortable to hold. It doesn't feel a lot bigger than an iPhone 7.
2) I'm not in love with the black, though. It's more of a grey. It's not ugly, I just wish it was darker.
3) I know it's early, but damn it's smooth. No hiccups or stutters on my end.
4) I was using the Pixel launcher on the 6P. I love it.
5) Like the 6P, I enjoy the fingerprint reader on the back. It just makes sense. It even feels better here.
6) The hardware is flawless. Samsung and Apple flawless.
7) This started with Nougat, but I enjoy how the contact pictures show up on my 2016 Impala infotainment center. Other manufacturers have had this, so it's a nice addition.
8) It smelled good when I opened the box.
9) The lack of waterproofing is a bummer, but whatever. I've never dropped a phone in water. (I do have my iPhone 7 in my shower. I use it only as an iPod)
10) I really like it. Google did a hell of a job.
11) I know it won't be mentioned much, but Google nailed the launch. 2 weeks between preorder and delivery! Last year we waited nearly a month. I think the same thing happened with the Nexus 6. Everyone lauds how Apple does it, Google just did it too.

hollowlog said:
I share everyone's sentiments here. I received my XL today.
11) I know it won't be mentioned much, but Google nailed the launch. 2 weeks between preorder and delivery! Last year we waited nearly a month. I think the same thing happened with the Nexus 6. Everyone lauds how Apple does it, Google just did it too.
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this part I disagree with! lol I ordered day one and have a month wait.
other then that, with playing with it at work I'd agree.

Someone Please comment about the audio quality

^Especially the headphone Jack

I listened to music for an hour or so yesterday with the headphone jack. It sounded fine. But I admit that I'm not super picky in this area.
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And some of us got them a day early. I like your review of the smell of the box. LOL. Yeah day and I'm even more impressed with the phone. looking for cool ways to use Google assistant.

Yeah I havent had a reason to use headphones. Speaker phone is loud and clear though.

JasonJoel said:
I like the pixel xl MUCH more than I do my 6P. I especially like the size and screen more. I always thought the 6P was too big/too tall though.
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I intitially balked about the screen shrinking, then I remembered how I was initially against getting the 6P due to it's large screen size lol.

Just so I don't sound like a 'fanboy'...
One thing I find a little annoying on the pixel is that the auto brightness adjuster makes the screen too bright for my tastes.
I have the brightness slider almost all of the to the left.
Not a big deal, but I'm not sure why the default brightness is so high.
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same here
Was very exited to get my Pixel phone earlier than stated. Speaker phone sounds loud and clear and audio sound in general was great.

Would you buy the Nexus 6P again?

So the other day I dropped my 6P right on the power button (while it was in my Speck case) and it caused it to get jammed in and unusable. Thankfully, Huawei said repair is covered by warranty, which I have a few months left of. This got me thinking, though, that if something were to happen again, would I buy this phone again?
The answer for me is absolutely. I bought my Graphite 64GB for $799 CAD, and in my Googling, I found the 128GB variant for $775 CAD on B&H. To me this is an absolute steal, and with the Pixel phones introducing iPhone-level prices, I wouldn't think again about owning another one of these. What do you guys think, would you hang on to the Nexus line as long as you can, or get something new?

I wouldn't. Using a Spigen case and keeping it in my front pocket, it has bent. Not enough to crack the screen (yet) but enough that I can see it. Especially by the power button and volume rocker. And the games I've been playing lately are PinOut and Auralux 2. Neither seem to be all that graphically intensive, but both are apparently intense enough to tax the SD810 processor and cause it to throttle from over heating. Much happier with my Pixel.

So what's the price of the Pixel XL if you wanted one of those?
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paperjam252 said:
I wouldn't. Using a Spigen case and keeping it in my front pocket, it has bent.
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You must mean pants pocket. I was thinking shirt pocket and I'm thinking, "WOW, this guy must work out... a LOT." :laugh:

Colchiro said:
You must mean pants pocket. I was thinking shirt pocket and I'm thinking, "WOW, this guy must work out... a LOT." :laugh:
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I'm not a small guy. Fairly big front pants pockets. And I'm not the kinda guy who wears skinny jeans. Lol

Mine broke down, got a refund and bought the 3T
I am giving it back and getting the 6P again - so the answer is yes

I woudnt. I dont like the display which i cant see stuff outside
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I would buy a 6P with a better SoC and same design and price. I find Pixel's design ugly and boring as hell. It is also too expensive and with that price I would rather buy an iPhone. I like 6P's design and love the stereo speakers.

I just love the way the phone looks. Nice big display, front facing speakers and great low light pics. An updated processor and ois for video is all that is really needed. Wish Huawei would do a 3T with this one. With a black rhinoshield bumper, my black 6p looks sleek and stealth like...corny as that might sound.

May be future Pixel XL 2017 model.

I've only had mine for 4 days and finally had time to root tonite. I don't hate it yet.
I thought about the Pixel XL but couldn't get around the looks or the price point.

This has been my first phone ive owned for over a year and havent even thought of upgrading yet. The pixel looks like dog sh1t and the price tag is out of control. The battery dieing at random % bug is pissing me off lately, but besides that i truly love this device.

Coming from the LG G4 and Nexus 5 . I really liked and wanted a Pixel but the Price point kept me away. Found a 128gb 6p on B&H and decided to try. So Far so good. I would love to have some of the Pixel rom's features but really do not need assistant. Overall its a nice device and I would purchase again.

Yes I would and technically I did haha. I bought one in April of this year and had it up to August when the Note 7 came out. Sold it and got the N7 and had that for a month and we all know what happened there heh. Returned the Note and ended up buying another 6P. I was originally just getting it to hold me down until the Pixel XL, but once I saw what it had and it's price point, I was like "Nah".
The 6P imo is one of the best phones ever made. It was a good price, AOSP, plenty of mod support, great performance and my god the speakers?? I don't think I could get another device without front facing speakers.
Currently running it stock, unrooted on 7.1.1 and it's running problem free. Love it.
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gmanunited said:
Coming from the LG G4 and Nexus 5 . I really liked and wanted a Pixel but the Price point kept me away. Found a 128gb 6p on B&H and decided to try. So Far so good. I would love to have some of the Pixel rom's features but really do not need assistant. Overall its a nice device and I would purchase again.
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Install the Cortex ROM for the 6P. It brings the entire pixel phone experience and is probably the most stable and smoothest rom out there.

Maybe next year's 2017 Nexus comeback after Google retires the Pixel!

I'd buy an updated 6P is a heartbeat. A better CPU and OIS and it'd be perfection.

Batfink33 said:
I'd buy an updated 6P is a heartbeat. A better CPU and OIS and it'd be perfection.
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We know this may or will not happen. Huawei and Google have moved on. As long as Google is tied to a carrier the Pixel Phone will be priced very high.

Since the 6P was notorious for throttling with VR, when I came across a good deal on a 2 day old XL on Swappa I pounced on it.