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Hi! I have absolutely NO technical knowledge, and am really, really lost. I'm currently deciding between the Axon 7 and the 6P for my next phone. I love the Axon, but my one requirement for my next phone is stock Nougat with Google Assistant. I read that it is possible on the Nexus 6P to unlock GA, but is it possible on the Axon to get stock N in the first place? From there, could I unlock GA? If nothing is available on the Axon, I'm buying in two weeks, so I can't wait long for it to come out. I couldn't seem to find anywhere that can help me, so I turned to XDA. Thank you in advance!
TLDR: Can the Axon 7 get stock Nougat with Google Assistant as of this moment? I'm okay with rooting or whatever is necessary.
I left the axon 7 to come back to the Nexus 6p ... The best choice and I have already install many mods and apk from pixel like Google assistant
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MTrxye said:
Hi! I have absolutely NO technical knowledge, and am really, really lost. I'm currently deciding between the Axon 7 and the 6P for my next phone. I love the Axon, but my one requirement for my next phone is stock Nougat with Google Assistant. I read that it is possible on the Nexus 6P to unlock GA, but is it possible on the Axon to get stock N in the first place? From there, could I unlock GA? If nothing is available on the Axon, I'm buying in two weeks, so I can't wait long for it to come out. I couldn't seem to find anywhere that can help me, so I turned to XDA. Thank you in advance!
TLDR: Can the Axon 7 get stock Nougat with Google Assistant as of this moment? I'm okay with rooting or whatever is necessary.
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No, Axon 7 will not get GA. Goggle already state that it's only for the Pixel for the time being.
In addition, I don't think we will be seeing Android N on this phone in the near future.
max1001 said:
No, Axon 7 will not get GA. Goggle already state that it's only for the Pixel for the time being.
In addition, I don't think we will be seeing Android N on this phone in the near future.
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It's definitely getting Nougat soon. ZTE is already teasing it, with screenshots
http://www.myzte.cn/thread-316781-1-1.html
Honestly, a two second Google search turns up an answer to the Nougat question.
max1001 said:
No, Axon 7 will not get GA. Goggle already state that it's only for the Pixel for the time being.
In addition, I don't think we will be seeing Android N on this phone in the near future.
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i don't know where you get the idea of A7 not getting Android N, but A7 WILL GET Android N, maybe not this month but , N is coming.
DrakenFX said:
i don't know where you get the idea of A7 not getting Android N, but A7 WILL GET Android N, maybe not this month but , N is coming.
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There's a bunch of Pixel fanboys hurt that the ZTE Axon 7 has better hardware than the XL, at half the cost.
When people ask how Google can justify the $870 for a Pixel XL when that buys two AXON 7 phones, they get mad. Over in their forum, they're spreading FUD that the Axon 7 won't get Nougat to make themselves feel better.
He probably got it from them.
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i don't know where you get the idea of A7 not getting Android N, but A7 WILL GET Android N, maybe not this month but , N is coming.
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READ what I wrote. I said it will not get Google Assistant because Google decided that that's Pixel phone exclusive for now. I also said it will not get Android N any time soon.
We probably see it toward the end of November if we are lucky. ZTE has to fix the HUGE PILE of bugs on the current roms before they even try to go with Android N. That's how software life cycle works.
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ChazzMatt said:
There's a bunch of Pixel fanboys hurt that the ZTE Axon 7 has better hardware than the XL, at half the cost.
When people ask how Google can justify the $870 for a Pixel XL when that buys two AXON 7 phones, they get mad. Over in their forum, they're spreading FUD that the Axon 7 won't get Nougat to make themselves feel better.
He probably got it from them.
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FFS, LEARN TO READ before you decided to be a douchbag.
I said A7 will not be getting Android N anytime in the near future. OP is asking if A7 will get Android N before 6p and we know that's not likely at all.
I had the A7 since launch. I am the guy that posted links on where to buy them on XDA when they launch.
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READ what I wrote. I said it will not get Google Assistant because Google decided that that's Pixel phone exclusive for now. I also said it will not get Android N any time soon.
We probably see it toward the end of November if we are lucky. ZTE has to fix the HUGE PILE of bugs on the current roms before they even try to go with Android N. That's how software life cycle works.
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FFS, LEARN TO READ before you decided to be a douchbag.
I said A7 will not be getting Android N anytime in the near future. OP is asking if A7 will get Android N before 6p and we know that's not likely at all.
I had the A7 since launch. I am the guy that posted links on where to buy them on XDA when they launch.
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I was asking if it were possible to install stock N by rooting(?) or some other method on the A7, as of this moment. If not, I'm buying the 6P, because it will receive stock N.
Hopefully we will get 7.1 instead of 7.0 :/
Stock N its already running on the 6p
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tupirujp said:
Stock N its already running on the 6p
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Obviously. The 5X/6P got stock N before Google offered up the final N code to other manufacturers.
ultramegax said:
It's definitely getting Nougat soon. ZTE is already teasing it, with screenshots
http://www.myzte.cn/thread-316781-1-1.html
Honestly, a two second Google search turns up an answer to the Nougat question.
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Also, ZTE Axon 7 is the first smartphone to be released that's Daydream VR compatible. Daydream VR REQUIRES Nougat.
So, of course Nougat is coming for this phone.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...android-vr-release-date-news-features-1321245
The ZTE Axon 7 is the first smartphone announced to be Google Daydream-compatible along with its very-own VR headset, the ZTE VR. It just needs Android Nougat and Google's necessary VR maintenance software update to pull it off, which will come in the Android Nougat 7.1 update.
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Straight from ZTE official (October 4, 2016 - two weeks ago):
https://community.zteusa.com/thread/1544
We are currently integrating the Daydream package into Axon 7 now. It requires an Android N upgrade and we need final certification from Google. So please note that Axon 7 is not Daydream-ready the day that Daydream launches from Google. We have said all along that we are working with Google on Daydream, which is true, and that we anticipate that it will receive the certification. We only recently received the final Daydream package so it will take some time to finish the integration on Axon 7 and then get certification. We will make a future announcement when it is Daydream ready.
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max1001 said:
FFS, LEARN TO READ before you decided to be a douchbag.
I said A7 will not be getting Android N anytime in the near future. OP is asking if A7 will get Android N before 6p (false) and we know that's not likely at all.
I had the A7 since launch. I am the guy that posted links on where to buy them on XDA when they launch.
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Learn to read? You're the one who can't read. Plus you are giving out incorrect information. You also might want to chill with the name-calling.
You misquoted the op. He did NOT NOT NOT ask if Axon 7 was getting Nougat before the 6p.
He did imply in the "near future", but actually said he wanted to buy either phone in two weeks. He didn't say it needed Nougat before then, but wanted assurance it would get Nougat as that would shape his decision.
But more importantly... The answer is YES, the ZTE Axon 7 WILL get Nougat 7.1 in the near future. Because ZTE marketed the Daydream VR capability and that requires 7.1 Nougat.
However, there are no promises of "stock" Nougat 7.1 nor any promises of Google Assistant. That will require the magic of XDA devs. But it will have Nougat 7.1 in the near future from ZTE.
Here's the op for you to read again, since you didn't read it well the first time?
MTrxye said:
Hi! I have absolutely NO technical knowledge, and am really, really lost. I'm currently deciding between the Axon 7 and the 6P for my next phone. I love the Axon, but my one requirement for my next phone is stock Nougat with Google Assistant. I read that it is possible on the Nexus 6P to unlock GA, but is it possible on the Axon to get stock N in the first place? From there, could I unlock GA? If nothing is available on the Axon, I'm buying in two weeks, so I can't wait long for it to come out. I couldn't seem to find anywhere that can help me, so I turned to XDA. Thank you in advance!
TLDR: Can the Axon 7 get stock Nougat with Google Assistant as of this moment? I'm okay with rooting or whatever is necessary.
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Hopefully we will get 7.1 instead of 7.0 :/
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Better be 7.1 since it's gone late significantly time ZTE to deliver to us.
ZTE has plenty of time to prepare 7.1 and bring it to us(it's already ready by Google)
They would not having any excuse not giving us 7.1 from the beginning.
As I know 7.1 will support VR capability and not 7.0 and other bug fix and optimized tweaks of the OS.
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MTrxye said:
I was asking if it were possible to install stock N by rooting(?) or some other method on the A7, as of this moment. If not, I'm buying the 6P, because it will receive stock N.
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No, it doesn't work that way. We can't even get stock M at this point because ZTE isn't being very developer friendly at this time.
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ChazzMatt said:
Also, ZTE Axon 7 is the first smartphone to be released that's Daydream VR compatible. Daydream VR REQUIRES Nougat.
So, of course Nougat is coming for this phone.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...android-vr-release-date-news-features-1321245
Straight from ZTE official (October 4, 2016 - two weeks ago):
https://community.zteusa.com/thread/1544
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Learn to read? You're the one who can't read. Plus you are giving out incorrect information. You also might want to chill with the name-calling.
You misquoted the op. He did NOT NOT NOT ask if Axon 7 was getting Nougat before the 6p.
He did imply in the "near future", but actually said he wanted to buy either phone in two weeks. He didn't say it needed Nougat before then, but wanted assurance it would get Nougat as that would shape his decision.
But more importantly... The answer is YES, the ZTE Axon 7 WILL get Nougat 7.1 in the near future. Because ZTE marketed the Daydream VR capability and that requires 7.1 Nougat.
However, there are no promises of "stock" Nougat 7.1 nor any promises of Google Assistant. That will require the magic of XDA devs. But it will have Nougat 7.1 in the near future from ZTE.
Here's the op for you to read again, since you didn't read it well the first time?
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You are the one saying I am a "butthurt" Pixel fanboy saying Axon will not get Android N.
Where did i state such a thing?
Why not all just calm down now the miscommunication has been resolved and axon 7 users will get 7.1 as soon as it's developed.
After that we will surely start seeing more mods and development as well as i personally would not start developing for an operating system that's soon going to become obsolete and risk doing almost everything again... I'd just wait for the latest promised android version to be released and then start making modifications
Nice day and i can guarantee that a few weeks after the update development will have picked up. probably
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You are the one saying I am a "butthurt" Pixel fanboy saying Axon will not get Android N.
Where did i state such a thing?
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I really want to stop this, but I must point out again you apparently can't read. I did NOT say that. You can check my post -- which has not been edited. The word you have in quotes is only in your mind, not my post. I did say a lot of Pixel fanbois were "hurt" (feelings hurt, wounded?) the Axon 7 is equal to or better than the XL in many/most hardware specs, for half the price. I assumed you had listened to them, perhaps were one of them. One guy over there attacked me incessantly when I compared hardware specs and they started the false rumor (over there) the ZTE Axon 7 wouldn't get Nougat -- which is quite ignorant and silly if you know anything about the Axon 7.
You started with the name calling and said the ZTE was not getting Nougat in the near future. ZTE says otherwise, if you take them at their promise from two weeks ago. They are diligently working on their version of Nougat 7.1 at least -- since they heavily marketed this phone as being Daydream VR capable, which requires Nougat.
Thread closed - enough ding-dong stuff.
(Other similar threads exist too)
Sorry Guys...
If you were hoping to get updated to EMUI / OREO 8.0 in Quarter One...
Like Huawei / Honor PROMISED!
Then it saddens me to inform you it's not coming until at least Quarter Two of 2018 now...
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-7x-honor-8-emui-8-q2-2018-honor-france/
Are you sticking with the 7X now?
I personally don't like companies that lie to their customers.. They should have never thrown Quarter One out there if they new they were not going to meet target.
It's the "Budget Phone" of the 2017 lineup.. but this is still a slap in the face.
It's still coming just a little late.
You sound like a junkie desperate for a fix.
It missed the target by a few weeks a month or more there's bigger things to worry about.
Compare it to the recent botch job of a update by Xiaomi.
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RaiderWill said:
Sorry Guys...
If you were hoping to get updated to EMUI / OREO 8.0 in Quarter One...
Like Huawei / Honor PROMISED!
Then it saddens me to inform you it's not coming until at least Quarter Two of 2018 now...
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-7x-honor-8-emui-8-q2-2018-honor-france/
Are you sticking with the 7X now?
I personally don't like companies that lie to their customers.. They should have never thrown Quarter One out there if they new they were not going to meet target.
It's the "Budget Phone" of the 2017 lineup.. but this is still a slap in the face.
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Got fed up waiting for update...now am just waiting for redmi note 5 on 14th feb....first need to get rid of this goddam device
It's not that bad.We are getting it just a bit late .I personally think it's better to wait than getting a totally messy miui 9 device.EMUI is much better and offers better customisation than MIUI.
They Lied.. Period.
kiran G. said:
Got fed up waiting for update...now am just waiting for redmi note 5 on 14th feb....first need to get rid of this goddam device
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Now Huawei / Honor Has Shown Their True Colors....
THIS IS THE BOTTOM TIER UNIT.. AND NOT WORTH ANY REAL EFFORT.. In their eyes.
There is not a Gosh Darn Reason this should not have gotten Oreo by now when the View 10 lanuched with it.. and now, they are saying it may not be here until JUNE!
It's because it a $199.99 phone... that's why.
I personally do not like being lied to.. I went through this with ZTE.. promising 7.0 and giving nothing.
I do believe they also promised the 6X Nougat.. and delayed and delayed it.. ( Did it ever get it? )
And Finally,
What Does This Do To The Development Community ?
There Is No Nougat Image Even Released ! and it's been over 60 days since this device went on sale !
There Sure As Hell Ain't Going To Be An Oreo Image Released at this pace UNTIL July / August !!!
Can't create any ROM's without any Images! Stripped or Otherwise.
Project Treble.......................................Down The Drain........... now, for at least several months.
If Ever.
Do You See ANY Developer's Waiting Around For This Device ?
Not when the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5, Moto G6 Plus, OnePlus 6 Hell..... EVEN HONOR"S OWN VIEW 10! are right there and will have STRONG Developmental Support behind each and every one of them.
All of you that rooted.... you did the right thing... may as well have fun with it if you are going to keep it (Just don't muck it up so you can at least sell it at some point)
Even though it's feature packed (in my eyes) for a budget device Honor is just not "Honorable"
That means A LOT to me. And you're telling us you can't get the final tweaks right within the next 50+ days???
Then you are not putting forth much effort to meet target on your bottom of the line device.
And the competition I mentioned is just around the corner.. and they WILL LAUNCH with Oreo 8.0.. and get TREMENDOUS Development Support... with or without the advantages of Project Treble...
The 7X 's Loyalty Is About To Be Tested.
Doesnt bother me actually... id I NEED Oreo, ill likely just hop on a custom rom (Already got a beta AOSP Oreo out) but happy with 7 for now. I came form the V8 Blade Pro so waiting another Q or 2 isn't that bad.
I'd rather wait for a finished product as opposed to getting a half assed rushed disaster tbh.
I find it disappointing that there is not a full firmware available for download.
Are they delaying Oreo for other reasons? They should at least have the firmware for Nougat.
How did they install from the factory? Seems a little lame.
When did they promise a Q1 release? Cause any time I've reached out to customer service, all they told me was "soon." I know there was some XDA article about it back in like September, but I never really determined if that was anything more than hearsay.
Honor US has said they're shooting for a release "by April", which technically does not rule out a Feb/March release (though I doubt it will come before April).
It's Not That Good..
nickzeptepi said:
You sound like a junkie desperate for a fix.
It missed the target by a few weeks a month or more there's bigger things to worry about..
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And you sound Delusional.. Just Like ISheep..
You've been lied to.... If you're good with that sheep'on..
kiran G. said:
Got fed up waiting for update...now am just waiting for redmi note 5 on 14th feb....first need to get rid of this goddam device
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EXACTLY BOSS..
I don't take it well being LIED to by a company.. Bargin Basement phone or not.. if you are UNAWARE of whats going on in Your Own Labs.. and have NO REAL IDEA when you can have a project THAT YOU PROMISED would be completed within a given time frame then, STFU and don't throw Wild Completion Dates out there that you unable to keep. Honor Oreo works on the View 10.. but NOT on the 7x ???
IT'S RIDICULOUS. :angel:
And you're right.. If the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 OR the Moto G6 Plus looks as good as the renders... with the support they will get WORLDWIDE this thing is out the door.
SageWilliams said:
Doesnt bother me actually... id I NEED Oreo, ill likely just hop on a custom rom (Already got a beta AOSP Oreo out) but happy with 7 for now. I came form the V8 Blade Pro so waiting another Q or 2 isn't that bad.
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Custom ROM ???
WHERE???
I don't see ANY ROM's here on XDA... Where Is This Beta ???
Is it some hack in someone's basement ???
SOURCE FOR DOWNLOAD PLEASE ? www._______________________.com ??? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
I somewhat agree though I'm not too ticked off. This is a very solid phone, but by the time we get 8.0 (April apparently) Android P will already be in the works. Well, just know that I'll most likely never purchase another Honor device again. The Moto G6 Plus is looking really attractive though, I might ditch the 7x for the G6 this coming summer.
Go look in the Roms, kernels forum, it's there.
I'd like to see a list of which companies have NOT missed delivery dates at some point for their updates along the way. It isn't unusual at all, and doesn't really meet the criteria of a lie in my opinion, but everyone can take it how they like. I've managed projects before so I know that timelines slip for many reasons, very rarely is it becuase of a desire to decieve anyone. But I can't ascribe motive to them, I can only see what is happening. Anyway, sorry it has apparrently been a life-destorying moment for some to hear this news, but I agree with many on here that I would rather get a stable release even if it slips a little bit. Being in the USA I know I'll get it last anyway, so it isn't something I'm checking for every day anyway.
Dude chill a little man damn. Big deal, things get delayed, **** happens. And there is a rom posted in the rom section of this phone. How could you miss it when you post in almost every thread when anyone talks about rooting their phone. It's right here man,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/development/openkirin-aosp-8-0-honor-7x-t3746257
It's not by "some hack in their basement" it's posted by OpenKirin which is a known development group. Sometimes you sound like you freaking work for Huawei and now you sound like you work for their competitors. Phones been out like two months or so and you're expecting to be flooded with updates and whatnot.
RaiderWill said:
And you sound Delusional.. Just Like ISheep..
You've been lied to.... If you're good with that sheep'on..
EXACTLY BOSS..
I don't take it well being LIED to by a company.. Bargin Basement phone or not.. if you are UNAWARE of whats going on in Your Own Labs.. and have NO REAL IDEA when you can have a project THAT YOU PROMISED would be completed within a given time frame then, STFU and don't throw Wild Completion Dates out there that you unable to keep. Honor Oreo works on the View 10.. but NOT on the 7x ???
IT'S RIDICULOUS. :angel:
And you're right.. If the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 OR the Moto G6 Plus looks as good as the renders... with the support they will get WORLDWIDE this thing is out the door.
Custom ROM ???
WHERE???
I don't see ANY ROM's here on XDA... Where Is This Beta ???
Is it some hack in someone's basement ???
SOURCE FOR DOWNLOAD PLEASE ? www._______________________.com ??? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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That ROM is a WIP with all 3 cameras broken and BT disabled. If you chose to flash that ROM and haven't made a stock back up then you're SOL.
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That ROM is a WIP with all 3 cameras broken and BT disabled. If you chose to flash that ROM and haven't made a stock back up then you're SOL.
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Give it time of few weeks. You will get a stable aosp 8.0 from openkirin.:laugh:
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Give it time of few weeks. You will get a stable aosp 8.0 from openkirin.:laugh:
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Hopefully.
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Onebryteday said:
I find it disappointing that there is not a full firmware available for download.
Are they delaying Oreo for other reasons? They should at least have the firmware for Nougat.
How did they install from the factory? Seems a little lame.
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Amen Brother
I've been saying that for a while now.
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When did they promise a Q1 release? Cause any time I've reached out to customer service, all they told me was "soon." I know there was some XDA article about it back in like September, but I never really determined if that was anything more than hearsay.
Honor US has said they're shooting for a release which technically does not rule out a Feb/March release (though I doubt it will come before April).
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Unreal..
Soapy! said:
I somewhat agree though I'm not too ticked off. This is a very solid phone, but by the time we get 8.0 (April apparently) Android P will already be in the works. Well, just know that I'll most likely never purchase another Honor device again. The Moto G6 Plus is looking really attractive though, I might ditch the 7x for the G6 this coming summer.
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Man.. I'm with you on the Moto G6 Plus!
It may cost $30.00 to $60.00 more.. But as we are now seeing here You Get What You Pay For.
I had a Moto G5 Plus screen was just too small for me but, Developer Support almost from day one was OFF THE HOOK! Great Camera's as well. And now with the styling catching up to the times... Oh Man! :good:
But have you seen the renders of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 ? Most Sexy Sub-$300.00 device on the planet..
str8stryk3r said:
Dude chill a little man damn. Big deal, things get delayed, **** happens. Sometimes you sound like you freaking work for Huawei and now you sound like you work for their competitors. Phones been out like two months or so and you're expecting to be flooded with updates and whatnot.
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I EXPECT NOT TO BE LIED TO... It may mean nothing to you.. because you are so Enamoured with this device.. and that's your call..
And, since you have hung on to my every word.. you should know.. This Is My Call on the 7x..
Other Honor devices have it.. The View 10 Launched with it.
This is the "Step-Child" phone in their lineup.. and now you are seeing it's true place in the pecking order..
Ask Yourself.. Does That Bother You? Being Last In Line Behind Close Doors.. But Being Touted As An Equal In Public.. OUCH!
And Yes! I'll Take A Job With Either!
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And you sound Delusional.. Just Like ISheep..
You've been lied to.... If you're good with that sheep'on..
EXACTLY BOSS..
I don't take it well being LIED to by a company.. Bargin Basement phone or not.. if you are UNAWARE of whats going on in Your Own Labs.. and have NO REAL IDEA when you can have a project THAT YOU PROMISED would be completed within a given time frame then, STFU and don't throw Wild Completion Dates out there that you unable to keep. Honor Oreo works on the View 10.. but NOT on the 7x ???
IT'S RIDICULOUS. :angel:
And you're right.. If the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 OR the Moto G6 Plus looks as good as the renders... with the support they will get WORLDWIDE this thing is out the door.
Custom ROM ???
WHERE???
I don't see ANY ROM's here on XDA... Where Is This Beta ???
Is it some hack in someone's basement ???
SOURCE FOR DOWNLOAD PLEASE ? www._______________________.com ??? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Here you are!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/development/openkirin-aosp-8-0-honor-7x-t3746257
Soapy! said:
I somewhat agree though I'm not too ticked off. This is a very solid phone, but by the time we get 8.0 (April apparently) Android P will already be in the works. Well, just know that I'll most likely never purchase another Honor device again. The Moto G6 Plus is looking really attractive though, I might ditch the 7x for the G6 this coming summer.
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Do u expect the Moto G6 Plus to get newer versions of Android faster? The Moto G5 Plus released with Nougat and has never recieved the Oreo update. The patches date back to October or November whereas the Honor 7X is recieving the Feb security patches on some units.
I don't really get why r people freaking out abt this. U paid $199 which is a great value, so what if an update got delayed by a month or 2. Samsung has done this, Motorola has done it too many times to even count.
Oreo 8.0 has a bad rep for being unstable which is making it hard for OEMs to roll the update out.
And finally u can't expect a company to give equal emphasis to a BUDGET phone and to a FLAGSHIP phone. Thats the reality. Pick up any samsumg mid Ranger and u'll find that the Honor 7X has recieved more updates, the same goes for anything from Motorola. The Honor View 10 is reported to cost around $400-$450 which is twice the cost of the Honor 7X.
There is the argument abt Dev support but I can guarantee atleast 90-95% ppl using Android don't care abt ROMs or rooting.
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For the first time Google, Android P's latest beta will be available on non pixel / Nexus devices including OnePlus 6, Essential PH-1, Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S, Sony Xperia XZ2, Nokia 7 Plus, Oppo R15 Pro, and Vivo X21.
I immediately jumped to get my 5T signed up, only to face disappointment.
Android P beta for OnePlus 5t was skipped and the same was available only for yet to launch OnePlus 6.
Lately I have got a feeling that OnePlus has shifted their interest from consumer focused company to buiness oriented company who are more concerned about thier new flagship and less concerned about thier previous users.
The unofficial treble support was provided to our device by the hardworking developers of OnePlus community but OnePlus did not make any efforts to provide the same.
The OnePlus community should send a strong message to the company that they should not make the old coustmers feel left out.
We should pass following message to OnePlus:-
a) Providing official treble support to 5 and 5t.
b) Providing the lastest Android version along with their new flagship phones.( Which will be possible if support for project treble is available).
c) Providing all the exlusive upcoming features to previous generation phones (5 & 5t) till the time hardware permits.
A) That is not going to happen. But Mokee ported Treble so hopefully an P Beta port will come to 5T at some point.
C) This is OnePlus we're talking about, I doubt they will.
I really don't think they care about the community anymore.
I thought OnePlus had quietly prepared the 5T for Treble by creating an empty Vendor partition in the background? It's not formatted yet, and OOS doesn't see it, but it's there?
I'm unhappy too, that they didn't use the 5T for their P beta, but if they provided the official base for Treble, then maybe we'll still see something from them or at least it will be easier for the XDA Devs...
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A) That is not going to happen. But Mokee ported Treble so hopefully an P Beta port will come to 5T at some point.
C) This is OnePlus we're talking about, I doubt they will.
I really don't think they care about the community anymore.
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A) If we push.. all of us.. we might stand a chance.
C) Exactly
As I commented in the news.
Quote Google: "beta available TODAY from those OEMs".
The "today" tricked me into thinking that this would be my beloved 5t but Oneplus let Google speak about an even unannounced device just to get in that damn presentation.
In other words: Oneplus doesn't even care about their existing flagship the moment they know the rough release date for their next one. This is beyond everything I have ever seen in the smartphone business. At the same time advertising heavily the OP5t on Amazon to get one of the last ones.
Oneplus was never a community focused company they just said it so often that the people thought it would be so.
HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT!
As far as I can see this whole Situation; we will get a taste of Android P anyway. Either officially or non official.
Official: because there in fact is an unused Partition (unformatted)
Unofficial: because hobby dev peeps around the globe were able to make the oneplus 5t Support treble.. therefore custom Rom creators should be able to create Android P roms for it.
Are y'all really surprised that we wouldn't get a P beta? Lol
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Yes I'm in. Let's make a petition on change.org ?
Many people said of the oneplus 5t, it's the best against essencial phone... Better software, updates, design... But Essencial phone 1 have the beta xD
Now who is the best ??
I have a 5t
Android P require treble ?
I know this won't go down well, but did none of you do your homework on OnePlus before buying the 5t? OnePlus launch a new, replacement device every six months and concentrate on marketing and selling that; Every six months our new (to us) device gets moved to the back burner.
This is not a new strategy, and should not come as a surprise! Google how OnePlus 2 owners felt! I owned a 3t that was virtually obsolete four months later!
And every time this happens - every six months when a new device is launched - there is a thread on XDA to petition OnePlus about the unfairness of it all!
If this news is a surprise to anyone you should've been more aware of how the company operates.
Rant over.
Really dont't care for stock android p beta.
Much prefer for oxygen beta program with android P
Stock android is very poor and lack customization and feature option that oxygen offer.
If i want stock android experiance better solution is AOSP custom rom with plenty of feature and customization insteed of totaly naked stock android by Google IMO.
So we get OOS beta based on P later. (OP6 get first.)
I'm guessing we're still getting Treble support. There already is a /vendor partition created in one of the Beta updates iirc and they said: "Something exciting for you OnePlus 5/5T owners later this summer". So i'm guessing they're referring to Treble support.
CrEaTiiOn_187 said:
I'm guessing we're still getting Treble support. There already is a /vendor partition created in one of the Beta updates iirc and they said: "Something exciting for you OnePlus 5/5T owners later this summer". So i'm guessing they're referring to Treble support.
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Where is it written?
cutmylifein2 said:
Where is it written?
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Look at the screenshot. Last section of text.
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Look at the screenshot. Last section of text.
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Later this year and later this summer are different my friend.
Later this year means December and not before that.. but OnePlus 6 will get it immediately on launch..
Essential phone has got it already.. y not us is the question
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Later this year and later this summer are different my friend.
Later this year means December and not before that.. but OnePlus 6 will get it immediately on launch..
Essential phone has got it already.. y not us is the question
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Yh one does not always remember the exact words. P requires Treble we do not have Treble hence why we don't get it yet. If you really want it install MoKee ROM which enables Treble and wait for an Android P GSI.
Everyone should stop acting like treble is a hardware based thing.
The only reasons we did not get the beta is that Oneplus 1. is too lazy to deliver 2. wants to boost OP6 sales.
Treble is something completely software based and can be added at any given time (even without bricking the device).
I think the real reason we are complaining is (like the title says) that Oneplus is announcing stuff for a device that isn't even on sale yet.
It's like Google would have said "...and of course Pixel 3 is getting the beta from day one. We are already testing it internally and it is working great. In the meantime we are all very happy that you bought Pixel 2".
Not surprising from OnePlus. Unfortunately, they only seem to be concerned with what's the best way to make more money even if it involves abandoning their current users. This move, like all the moves they make, is about money. Doesn't matter if they ignore their current flagship device or users. Sad but true.
Historically, how has the development been on the OnePlus devices? I am torn between a Pixel 3 XL and going the cheaper route and going with a OnePlus 6t for the price savings, more RAM, and more advanced technology, but don't want to go to a phone that lacks custom ROM choices and less active US development.
What's your thoughts? OnePlus 6t or Pixel 3 XL?
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Historically, how has the development been on the OnePlus devices? I am torn between a Pixel 3 XL and going the cheaper route and going with a OnePlus 6t for the price savings, more RAM, and more advanced technology, but don't want to go to a phone that lacks custom ROM choices and less active US development.
What's your thoughts? OnePlus 6t or Pixel 3 XL?
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Oneplus development is second to none. You're going to have choices and lots of them, very soon.
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Historically, how has the development been on the OnePlus devices? I am torn between a Pixel 3 XL and going the cheaper route and going with a OnePlus 6t for the price savings, more RAM, and more advanced technology, but don't want to go to a phone that lacks custom ROM choices and less active US development.
What's your thoughts? OnePlus 6t or Pixel 3 XL?
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Oneplus 6 got released few months ago...
They are already about 15 ROMs & 10 custom kernels to try.
So yes ..great development
Generally very good although the camera is a bit downgraded when running AOSP due to the way it is coded on OnePlus' side.
The only unknown is how the code for the inscreen fingerprint scanner will be handled/ported.
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Historically, how has the development been on the OnePlus devices? I am torn between a Pixel 3 XL and going the cheaper route and going with a OnePlus 6t for the price savings, more RAM, and more advanced technology, but don't want to go to a phone that lacks custom ROM choices and less active US development.
What's your thoughts? OnePlus 6t or Pixel 3 XL?
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If you want ROMs, go with Oneplus. Pixel ROMs have been slow to show and few/far between.
I have a Pixel 2 XL and the ROM scene is abysmal compared to the Nexus days - likely due to the cost of the devices. Many are claiming the OnePlus devices are the "New Nexus" line...and from looking at their forums, I'd have to agree with that assessment.
I'm getting the 6T the day it launches on T-mobile and passing the P2XL down to another family member.
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Historically, how has the development been on the OnePlus devices? I am torn between a Pixel 3 XL and going the cheaper route and going with a OnePlus 6t for the price savings, more RAM, and more advanced technology, but don't want to go to a phone that lacks custom ROM choices and less active US development.
What's your thoughts? OnePlus 6t or Pixel 3 XL?
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OnePlus has got huge development support. I can assure you great development for 6T as sooner or later the sources will be unified with the 6. We will come to know more on it as and when the device tree and sources are released after the launch of the device.
Ill see your around here on the 6T forums :highfive:
Thanks Brothers!
I have a Nexus 6P now, but it is way overdue for replacement. I loved the development scene on the 6P, but is all but gone now. Was looking forward to the Pixel 3XL, but the 4GB of RAM, huge notch, and price was worrying me. I have been subscribed to OnePlus since the first one and have always been following new releases, just never jumped in and bought one.
We'll see you guys in a few weeks!
Has someone any idea , about the LED light?
Where is it?..
Don't worry bro there are some many peeps who gonna buy this phone even if there are no Headphone Jack on it, and im pretty sure the 6T gonna have a really rich development community! If it calms you im already started to make some Boot animations (i already made 8 of them they are in still in BETA but i'll able to finish it as soon as i get the phone), Icons, "Charging animation" <- (still don't know how its gonna work but at least the animation done )... So as soon the it's released, those guys who able to give something to the community, they gonna work to make this phone even better!
// Sorry for my terrible English. //
Do OnePlus phones work on the Sprint network?
Veid71 said:
Do OnePlus phones work on the Sprint network?
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The OnePlus's don't work on Verizon or Sprint. They are GSM networking...
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The OnePlus's doesn't work on Verizon or Sprint. They are GSM networking...
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Darn, I was really looking forward to getting one... Are there any other good phones for flashing that are top of the line? I hate Samsung because you can't root their phones, and Google's development is almost non-existent I feel like there's no good phones anymore
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Has someone any idea , about the LED light?
Where is it?..
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No. AMOLED display with AOD. No need for it.
Yep, AOD is the way...
Actually I miss the trackball on my Nexus 1. Could see that sucker across the room and no device has as accurate a way to move around in text since. I say screw the embedded LED and give me a trackball!
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OnePlus has got huge development support. I can assure you great development for 6T as sooner or later the sources will be unified with the 6. We will come to know more on it as and when the device tree and sources are released after the launch of the device.
Ill see your around here on the 6T forums :highfive:
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Will it be possible for the fingerprint scanner to be ported to custom roms? And if so, how will it perform compared to on OxygenOS?
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If you want ROMs, go with Oneplus. Pixel ROMs have been slow to show and few/far between.
I have a Pixel 2 XL and the ROM scene is abysmal compared to the Nexus days - likely due to the cost of the devices. Many are claiming the OnePlus devices are the "New Nexus" line...and from looking at their forums, I'd have to agree with that assessment.
I'm getting the 6T the day it launches on T-mobile and passing the P2XL down to another family member.
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Out of interest whatever happened to Pure Nexus Rom, I know it was available initially for the OG Pixel and Pixel XL. Did development stop or ?
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OnePlus has got huge development support. I can assure you great development for 6T as sooner or later the sources will be unified with the 6. We will come to know more on it as and when the device tree and sources are released after the launch of the device.
Ill see your around here on the 6T forums :highfive:
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So basically because of unification there will be much cross development with what is already available for the OP 6, is that right ?
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Out of interest whatever happened to Pure Nexus Rom, I know it was available initially for the OG Pixel and Pixel XL. Did development stop or ?
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I've never seen it for the Pixel 2 XL. I thought it was one of the ROMs more for non-Google devices (since they are already "Pure Pixel", so-to-speak).
Pixel Dust ROM is out for it though - might be the same group?
Honestly, the thing that concerns me most about dev on the 6T is whether or not the devs will have an issue getting the in-display fingerprint working on ROMs. That'll be a make-or-break deal.
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I've never seen it for the Pixel 2 XL. I thought it was one of the ROMs more for non-Google devices (since they are already "Pure Pixel", so-to-speak).
Pixel Dust ROM is out for it though - might be the same group?
Honestly, the thing that concerns me most about dev on the 6T is whether or not the devs will have an issue getting the in-display fingerprint working on ROMs. That'll be a make-or-break deal.
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It was very popular on Nexus devices and did make its way to the OG Pixel (XL), but i'm not sure whether things fizzed out. I remember there be a lot of issues with the A/B partition if i'm correct.
Interesting what Devs will do for the fingerprint scanner, otherwise just stick with OxygenOS and flash a custom kernel
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Will it be possible for the fingerprint scanner to be ported to custom roms? And if so, how will it perform compared to on OxygenOS?
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Sooner or later it will be porter but for actual experience we need to wait for the launch. As per testing the unlock is fairly quick to begin with and with extensive use after a week or so it becomes quicker as the algorithms are adaptive and keep learning your unlock pattern.
To make it even faster you can combine it with face unlock so both tech will be used simultaneously :good:
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So basically because of unification there will be much cross development with what is already available for the OP 6, is that right ?
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Yes as the development will be unified after the initial stage most of what is available for 6 would be available for the T line as well. So OP has got you covered there :good:
Hi, I would like to purchase a new phone soon or later and I still cannot decide whether OP6T is worth buying, I condider OP7 more expensive and OP6T is right in price where I would expect my future phone. Can it be my new daily driver for several years? Thank you
Had same dilemma 6t or 7! for me it wasn't really much of an improvement to justify the extra picked up a mint unlocked 6T for 249 still a grate phone and will be for a while yet plenty of development going on , unless willing to shell out for the pro then 6T is the one,
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I'm happy with my 6T and I haven't seen any compelling reason to upgrade to a 7 or 7 Pro. I'm running the beta, which gives me a peak at new additions before they are rolled out to the public release and my phone is running great.
The 6t is a excellent choice.
I'm loving my 6t, granted I stepped up from a Moto e4 plus.. so a big jump. I haven't really found anything that truly disappoints me to the point of wishing I had something different or newer.
Thank you so much for answers! And what about end of support, is there any year when the phone stops being supported with updates?
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Thank you so much for answers! And what about end of support, is there any year when the phone stops being supported with updates?
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Considering that that OnePlus just rolled out security updates and feature updates for the OnePlus 3 thru 5 this week, I'd say you've got a few years of updates to go before EOL
I have had rooted phones since the LG g2. Stuck with LG up until I made the mistake of getting the k20 plus and, lastly the V20. LG broke too many promises. I and, others hung LG up. We were stuck with being able to trust another manufacturer and, hope that source codes, etc be released so that development could be active. I don't know if you plan to root or run mods or anything, if you do this device won't let you down. It is virtually unbrickable. Excellent daily driver that surpasses all of my previous devices.
I bought 6T and have no regrets
OnePlus 6T still rocken!
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OnePlus 6T still rocken!
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What about camera?
I too will be buying a 6T from a friend who keeps changing phones so I'm hopefully getting a good deal. Is the stock ROM great or is there some sweet custom ROMs that you think I should try? This probably the wrong thread to ask that.