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Just Returned My N1

I just returned my N1 that i paid full price for.. my screen had 3 scratches as well as some on my camera lense
so i decided i would take the loss and later down the line maybe purchase the bravo or another N1 depending on how i like the bravo.. for now im stuck with my G1 with a cracked screen.. id use that any day over my iPhone 3g..
anyone else return theirs?

Huh? You returned it because you scratched the screen and camera lens? Why?

not just because of the scratches.. i had the 3g issue and a little dust.. i heard about many people having problems getting their warranty replacements, receiving phones in worse condition than the one they had and whatnot. so i just decided to return it . im kind of happy now because i can wait for the Bravo and maybe the HD2 hopefully without the strict subsidy policy

Ah, ok, the HD2 is a beast and should have a better subsidy policy since T-Mobile will be selling it directly, and they will be doing the same with the Bravo(if the rumors are true they are getting it).

(Sorry if anyone's heard me say this before)
If you read here, and a lot of support forums, you're going to hear mainly about people with faulty N1s. Many of us have phones that work perfectly. There was a poll up briefly about the dust and something like 31 had no problems, while 3 had clicking and 8 had dust (And this, given that the title of the poll probably attracted people with clicking or dust).
So, just a reminder that the majority of N1s are in great shape. Furthermore, this seems (to me) to be the most resilient piece of portable electonics since the Game Boy Color. I have never used a case, and only used a screen protector for the first few days, and the phone still looks like it just came out of the box. No smudges or scratches to be found.

kozm0naut said:
So, just a reminder that the majority of N1s are in great shape. Furthermore, this seems (to me) to be the most resilient piece of portable electonics since the Game Boy Color. I have never used a case, and only used a screen protector for the first few days, and the phone still looks like it just came out of the box. No smudges or scratches to be found.
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Couldn't agree more.

Mine's in perfect condition too, or at least there isn't any fault that I can identify yet. Plus my phone held on to 3G signals better than my wife's iPhone 3GS (same starhub network).

Mine went from US to UK and from UK to Portugal and I don't have any problems with it, I'm loving the phone btw

tada116 said:
I just returned my N1 that i paid full price for.. my screen had 3 scratches as well as some on my camera lens
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for now im stuck with my G1 with a cracked screen.. id use that any day over my iPhone 3g..
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You really need to take better care of your phones. 3 scratches on the gorilla glass in under 2 weeks? A cracked screen on the G1 I could understand after a year, accidents happen. Still I see a pattern here.

r3pek said:
Mine went from US to UK and from UK to Portugal and I don't have any problems with it, I'm loving the phone btw
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Hi
Can I ask where you bought it and if it was eBay who was the seller?
Regards

JanetPanic said:
You really need to take better care of your phones. 3 scratches on the gorilla glass in under 2 weeks? A cracked screen on the G1 I could understand after a year, accidents happen. Still I see a pattern here.
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I'll admit that this also crossed my mind the first time I read this thread.
Did you return the phone because of the scratches or some other issue? Will they even take the phone back with scratches?

I will probably return my phone next week. I had it then for three weeks. I have the 3G issue and the touchscreen issue as well. I am really disappointed because of the lack of response from Google and HTC. I don't want a replacement because if you look at the poll 40% of the phones seemd to be broken. You get a refurbished one as a replacement so it is really likely that you get anoter lemon. How can they refurbish phones if they don't even know if it is a hardware or software problem?

rossiscatch said:
I'll admit that this also crossed my mind the first time I read this thread.
Did you return the phone because of the scratches or some other issue? Will they even take the phone back with scratches?
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i babied the phone, kept it in a separate pocket than my keys for the most part.. and 3 hairline scratches in 15 days was ridiculous .. no idea how it happened
i returned it partially how easily scratched, 3g issue, dust, warranty problem with unlocking the bootloader , and also the hopes of a better/cheaper phone coming out soon subsidized by T-Mobile.. the N1 is an amazing phone.. but because of how new it is i think it would be better if i just waited a little bit.. i am still waiting to get the conformation from HTC on if they will accept it in its current condition.. its really not that bad they probably wont even notice it

Just wondering, those of you planning on returning it after the 14 day return policy window, how are you going about that? Do you live in California or is HTC/Google cutting you slack because it has issues?

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3 scratches on the gorilla glass in under 2 weeks?
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Has anyone confirmed that this has gorilla glass from an official source? I've seen a lot of conjecture - mostly from people referencing the "scratch test" video - but no official word from anyone involved in the manufacture or teardown of the phone confirming the gorilla glass part...

i dont think it's gorilla glass.. i had iphone 3g for 1 and half years and had no scratch at all.. my N1 i had taken good care and never dropped once! but somehow i got 1 hairline scratch.. don't really trust that video..
N1 screen will scratch and i am thinking of returning it too.. the build quality seems to be not good

pikaphebat said:
i dont think it's gorilla glass.. i had iphone 3g for 1 and half years and had no scratch at all.. my N1 i had taken good care and never dropped once! but somehow i got 1 hairline scratch.. don't really trust that video..
N1 screen will scratch and i am thinking of returning it too.. the build quality seems to be not good
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how so? I have no complaints about my build quality.

Lol, people...

I have the 3G issues And touch screen issues.. I have a SMALL piece of lint that seems to have found it's way into the phone and is about to get onto the screen... for now it's just to the side of the screen but visible.
Coming from a iPhone 3G I simply can't type even near as close to as fast on this phone and my god does that annoy me! When I type fast the keyboard does all kinds of crazy **** and I get so frustrated... if I go slow and use a more pressure so more of my finger hits each key it's fine... but I'm typing way slow then and it's just not worth it.
Another thing, I require good Microsoft Exchange support... I can get around not having direct calendar support, but the fact that forwarded emails show up as attachments pisses me off to... I'm close to sending this sucker back (I'm in CA and have up to 30days)... soooo frustrating.

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I have the 3G issues And touch screen issues.. I have a SMALL piece of lint that seems to have found it's way into the phone and is about to get onto the screen... for now it's just to the side of the screen but visible.
Coming from a iPhone 3G I simply can't type even near as close to as fast on this phone and my god does that annoy me! When I type fast the keyboard does all kinds of crazy **** and I get so frustrated... if I go slow and use a more pressure so more of my finger hits each key it's fine... but I'm typing way slow then and it's just not worth it.
Another thing, I require good Microsoft Exchange support... I can get around not having direct calendar support, but the fact that forwarded emails show up as attachments pisses me off to... I'm close to sending this sucker back (I'm in CA and have up to 30days)... soooo frustrating.
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Check out TouchDown for you exchange support, it is brilliant! It is well worth the money, but if you really don't want to pay for it, it has a 5 day trial, and you can re-use that trial as many times as you want, you just have to set it back up again.
For texting, try out the voice-to-text software, really good! As well, if you keep it and root, you can get some much better keyboards really easily, and I want to say even without root you can get the some of them(not sure what is currently available for keyboards, haven't looked into it much yet).
Of course, if the phone isn't your cup of tea, it isn't your cup of tea.

adhesive loosening on HD2?

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thats how mine is but in the bottom. not a big deal but i did feel it

several people reported the same thing before. screen not flush all the way around. there's no adhesive, the screen slides out of the outer sleeve if you remove the screws in back.

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mine does it on the bottom.
it feels like there is a slight gap in between the bottom bezel and the screen.
It's not a problem at all, but it sure is annoying at times.

On the left side of my HD2 the screen is easier to push in at the top and bottom, but it takes a lot of pressure to make it "squeak".
If I had a cosmetic issue, you can bet I would be on a waiting list to get a replacement. The looks on these phones are nearly as important as the performance, IMHO.

oh i deff agree, @op, if you only just got it id be trying to take it back.

Same on mine at the bottom - just barely - if you slightly press between the usb and headphone jack you hear a slight (guess it sounds like) a click and you feel it slightly move. When the usb jack is plugged in it stops Some play and I don't think its worth returning - also don't think it will get worse. Case materials should have been a little more rigid. Think if you get a hard shell case or aluminum skin - when they become available you won't notice it. Talking to other guys with the HTC branded Euro version their build quality is a bit better. Think its pretty much the same with all HTC stuff - their branded models (TYTN TYTN II etc.) were build better than the AT&T versions - they also cost a lot more because they aren't subsidized.
Personally feel the HD2 of all the MS phones with the exception of the HTC TYTN I is the most solid. The Fuze which I just got rid of was probably the worst. The case was ok but the front keypad was pure junk - out of the box the thing felt like it was going to break and it never sat "square" in its opening. The USB ports on all of them were really weak and were super loose out of the box. The slide out keyboards always loosened up and had too much play.

stim141 said:
Personally feel the HD2 of all the MS phones with the exception of the HTC TYTN I is the most solid. The Fuze which I just got rid of was probably the worst. The case was ok but the front keypad was pure junk - out of the box the thing felt like it was going to break and it never sat "square" in its opening. The USB ports on all of them were really weak and were super loose out of the box. The slide out keyboards always loosened up and had too much play.
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For me, the Touch Pro 2 has top honors when it comes to "feeling" solid. My sister dropped it the other day and cracked the bevel, with a large triangle missing near the volume rocker and three other cracks on the bottom, top and opposite side.
I am encouraging her to return it and claim the insurance, but since there is no change in the quality of the phone's operation, she wants to keep it.
Again, for me, the TP2 seems more solid than the HD2, but the HD2 is very well-built compared to other phones. I am so paranoid about even putting my phone down on a hard surface, due to the sharp edges of the camera mount and the light metal case.
I will be installing my new invisibleSHEILD as soon as sirphunkee and I can make the time to meet somewhere clean (I have a 2yo at home ). I imagine my paranoia will drop a bit then...

I dropped my phone while working out at the gym.
I was on the treadmill, and dropped the phone from my hand to the treadmill belt, then it flew out (i was running pretty fast at speed 7) and ended up hitting the wall behind me. Well, I freaked out and ran over to check on the phone.
Even though I had NO protection, the phone was perfectly fine. Only a tiny scratch that's barely visible on the top left bezel, and everything was fine.
I really was surprised at the sturdiness of the phone.

Snarksneeze said:
For me, the Touch Pro 2 has top honors when it comes to "feeling" solid. My sister dropped it the other day and cracked the bevel, with a large triangle missing near the volume rocker and three other cracks on the bottom, top and opposite side.
I am encouraging her to return it and claim the insurance, but since there is no change in the quality of the phone's operation, she wants to keep it.
Again, for me, the TP2 seems more solid than the HD2, but the HD2 is very well-built compared to other phones. I am so paranoid about even putting my phone down on a hard surface, due to the sharp edges of the camera mount and the light metal case.
I will be installing my new invisibleSHEILD as soon as sirphunkee and I can make the time to meet somewhere clean (I have a 2yo at home ). I imagine my paranoia will drop a bit then...
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My TP2 fell out of my hand in a parking lot, the thing didn't hit hard, but it left a small scratch on the screen (it was visible, but wasn't too obvious) and then some nicks at the corners of the device. It did look used. I returned it to T-Mo (I was still within 14-day remorse period) and used the money I got back to get an HD2 instead (for some reason I didn't qualify for either the full or the 11 month upgrade price, only 50 bucks discount... now that I think about it, I should have gotten it at full price, also, the day after it arrived (ordered online) T-Mo came out with the 2 for 1 smartphone, but alas, a new line was needed and I had no use for it).
I've dropped my HD2 at least 4 times since and there's not a nick on it. I figure the glass screen helps (as opposed to the TP2's plastic), even if it's a finger print magnet. I also have no problems with the screen or bezel being uneven, even after dropping it, nor have I had any single of the problems people complain about, so, go figure, I got the perfect production HD2.

Whew.... OK. Soooo glad to hear this isnt only my device. Mines is on the bottom. I also dont see it getting any worst and its so minor right now its probably not worth the hassle of returning. I tend to keep the gel case on it anyway..

thrashingdeth said:
thats how mine is but in the bottom. not a big deal but i did feel it
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x2 same as mines.

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I had an issue with mine creaking, on the bottom. Mainly when I was pressing the start key, or back. Got a replacement and it seems better. For a phone seriously delayed I don't get how the quality is so terrible.

my first hd2 the camera lens started to rattle tmobile replaced it

Tm5078 said:
my first hd2 the camera lens started to rattle tmobile replaced it
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Was it the camera lens or the casing around the camera?
After watching the tear-down video I could see how the camera casing could be improperly installed and loosen after a bit of handling, but I thought the lens was pretty solid...

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JWang158 said:
Seriously, this phone is turning out to be pretty half baked.
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I disagree. Not sure if I got lucky or not, but my phone is in perfect condition despite being a month old and spending most of that time in my back pocket.
I've sat on it countless times, dropped it from my hand to the floor twice and dropped it from the car holder to the console in my vehicle so many times I can't count.
The only problem I have is with the SMS freeze, and I've solved 90% of that by keeping my inbox clean. If I have the money for a class 6 microSD card, I'd bet on having solved the other 10% of my problems.
Since upgrading my radio, I don't have any problems with dropped calls, missing texts, loss of 3G or any of the other popular issues that seem to be plaguing the new owners.
Since bad news always travels faster and wider than good news, one simply can't infer from the issues being discussed here that they are the norm. I would suspect a very small percentage of the HD2 owners frequent the forums here, and of those another small percentage are having hardware issues.
I've been through a few of these new phone releases here in the past and from my experience I would say that this is pretty normal for the first few months of a phone's release. In another month or so there will be a firmware upgrade to fix the freezing and icon switching, then a lot of the issues will switch from hardware to software. Soon after that, I expect everyone will be clamoring for the release of a Windows Phone 7 ROM, followed a few months later by a newer, faster phone that everyone will be switching to. A cycle, vicious but almost predictable.

Dust under screen

So I have a few specs of dust under my screen. One makes the screen look like it has a dead pixel. I called Samsung and they want me to mail it in. Pry 7 day turnaround. I bought it out of town which is s five hour round trip so an exchange is possible.
I have an ipad 2 so I would only be having small withdrawals from my tab.
Should I go ahead and send it in and hope for the best or plan a road trip. I'm leaning towards shipping it as they are paying both ways. So zero cost.
Anyone else have dust and what would you do.
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Got the same on my white galaxy tab 10.1 that I bought at Best Buy two days ago (maybe part of the initial Google I/O limited edition batch?).
I see four particles of dust but only when there is direct light over the screen. Thinking about exchanging it.
A curiosity, is your tab the white or metallic gray model?
Thanks!

Had 8 specs of dust under the screen towards the top right... made me so angry I returned it and plan on waiting for a better quality tab

I had one speck and planning to return it at BB. I got the white 16GB one. I'm afraid that the replacement will have more.
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Are they visible under any conditions or only under certain conditions (e.g. direct sun light over the screen)?

I had this issue with 2 tabs, including the one I currently have. I saw it, exchanged it at best buy, and the new one has it too. I'm waiting for them to get a new shipment to exchange it again.
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The dust is visible from all angles, even when the screen is off.

I'm waiting on an exchange unit from compusa because my first tab had slight light bleed, specs of dust, and liquid-looking blotches under the screen only visible under direct sunlight. It also had some type of big, weird, dusty looking spot under the screen. when I first noticed the light bleed i was ok with it but after i noticed the other issues i decided to return it. I'm afraid the exchange unit will have these issues so I believe I should have sent it in to Samsung. It probably would have taken longer but atleast they'd make sure I received a tablet without these screen issues... probably lol but who knows?

I didn't take the dust under the screen thing that seriously, until today when I used my tab under some bright lights and noticed a glaring white piece of dust in one corner of the screen. Highly reflective on a black background and relatively noticeable. I'm really pretty amazed. I'm still within my Best Buy return window, and will probably bring it back tomorrow.
I'm curious, for those who returned it to Best Buy, did you tell them the true reason you were returning it and did they give you any trouble? Or did you simply say you weren't happy with it?
For those who exchanged, did any of you ultimately get a perfect unit?
Not sure if I should accept a single piece of dust in the far corner of the screen, or gamble on getting a perfect screen on the next try. Won't be much of an improvement if the next screen ends up having 8 pieces of dust and a couple of dead pixels.
Edit: Just got curious and took out a penlight. Found two more central pieces of dust under the screen. Best advice to new GTAB 10.1 owners - never look too closely at your screen. You might not be happy with what you find!

just made up some BS about other issues you have with the tablet.

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just made up some BS about other issues you have with the tablet.
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Yup, thats what I usually do if I have a dead pixel. Not worth aruging with the salesperson about whether its a "Significant Defect". Was just wondering what Best Buys current attitude toward these things was.
Edit: Just did the next obviously necessary thing: ran the penlight over my XOOM screen. Found extremely small pinhead size specs in a few places which seem to be parts of the screen surface with slightly greater reflectance, but nothing that appears to be dust. So, the much criticized XOOM screen seems to be dust and dead pixel free, at least in my case.

Mistery solved
I returned my Galaxy Tab to Best Buy for a replacement. I opened the new box crossing the fingers and ... the new tab was flawless! Zero dust anywhere!
Two days later I noticed two specs of dust under the screen. Hmm, I thought I did a pretty accurate inspection... I checked it very carefully again. Only two very small specs of dust: one on the right and one on the left side of the screen.
Today I check again and I can count eight specs of dust!
Is it possible they enter from outside?
I checked for possible gaps between the glass screen and the plastic case and I found a gap all around the edges of the glass screen. Not large but I can stick a sheet of paper in it.
Another possible explanation is that dust enters from the speaker grills and the connector socket. The position of the specs of dust is close to them. I think that the latter is the most probable cause.
Anyway, it is a fact that this is not dust that was trapped during the build process, this is dust that entered the tab in the 4 days that I used it. This means that the dust will keep accumulating: if I got eight specs of dust in 4 days I can imagine what I can get in a year!
This one goes back to Bets Buy too and this time for a refund.
It is really a pity, I really liked this tab!

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Yup, thats what I usually do if I have a dead pixel. Not worth aruging with the salesperson about whether its a "Significant Defect". Was just wondering what Best Buys current attitude toward these things was.
Edit: Just did the next obviously necessary thing: ran the penlight over my XOOM screen. Found extremely small pinhead size specs in a few places which seem to be parts of the screen surface with slightly greater reflectance, but nothing that appears to be dust. So, the much criticized XOOM screen seems to be dust and dead pixel free, at least in my case.
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Unfortunately the screen is still quite horrible.
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I returned my tab to Best Buy (2nd return, first was because of lcd defect [rainbow sheen]) the second one I got was a white one that had dust under the screen. Looking over their return policy there is nothing other than the standard "we reserve the right to refuse any return/exchange" disclaimer. Those of us experiencing these issues, please do the rest of us a huge favor when returning your tablets, don't lie or misrepresent your reason for return. Be honest with the person handling the return, thereis no valid reason that they should deny it. Hopefully Best Buy will clue in with the amount of charge backs they're hopefully going to have to do in the near future.
The only thing that really pisses me off in regards to the whole situation is that none of the tabs the have left have unlocked bootloaders. It's almost insulting that the first 5 that samsung shipped for release day and none of the secondary shipments do.

Except that best buy is now requiring valid id for returns because they are tracking what people exchange for some reason. Eventually they will stop you is my guess but who knows. Just be careful.

Well along with dust under my screen...somehow a small bug got under there too.
This is very frustrating...
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Just received my third tab..
First one had minimal dust specs and screen separation, se ond one had fingerprint like smudges and dust particles under the screen and screen seemed loose, my third one has a tighter screen and only 1 dust particle...
I think i will just keep this one...
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I have 1 speck of dust; unfortunately it is half way down the luminous battery icon so very easy to spot if you want to find it. I noticed it right away and haven't had any new pieces since then (2 weeks). Mines is the black 16gb UK one.
If it had not have been over the battery I would never have seen it and it does seem to be moving slightly so I am hopeful it will one day hit the black status bar and disappear. It depends where these things are as to whether they are annoying; personally, I get the odd speck in my eyes every now and again and you don't notice it after a week or so. The advice not to go looking for them is very good - you may well not like what you find but also it's not the end of the world if the device functions. The first scratch anywhere is the worse on any device but after that you realise it is no biggie. My ipod has a giant crack in the screen so it could be a lot worse.

I went through two 32GB at Best Buy both with horrible (5+) pieces of dust under the screen. The second one had like a piece of string or something a couple mm long under it. Third unit appears completely flawless (for now) and I am quite satisfied.

Is anybody using any kind of case? Or just naked?
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Using the book case from samsung.
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Considering a Nexus 7... screen separation?

So what's the consensus? I was really considering picking up a Nexus 7 until I read about the screen separation issues. I used to have an ASUS Transformer and really liked ASUS's build quality. Is the Nexus 7 really that bad? I don't like the idea of buying a $250 tablet and then having to open it up and modify it just to make it work properly. (Especially since the iPad Mini is rumored to be released next month.)

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So what's the consensus? I was really considering picking up a Nexus 7 until I read about the screen separation issues. I used to have an ASUS Transformer and really liked ASUS's build quality. Is the Nexus 7 really that bad? I don't like the idea of buying a $250 tablet and then having to open it up and modify it just to make it work properly. (Especially since the iPad Mini is rumored to be released next month.)
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I personally loved my Nexus 7, and I'm one of the lucky ones who had their screen crack. I should be getting it back today, as it was supposedly fixed under warranty without a charge (guess I plead a good case when I called 4x reminding them I won't be paying for it). Keep in mind just how many of these units were sold. There's a handful of people here on the forums and AndroidCentral, etc., posting about this issue, yes... but go onto an Apple forum and you'll see the same thing.
Has the iPad mini even been announced yet? I keep hearing rumors but nothing solid. If you're somebody who doesn't mind iOS, it's not a bad option to wait, but you'll almost undoubtedly pay more for a similarly spec'd tablet. I personally wouldn't consider it, but that's just my 2c. If you're somebody who is pretty agnostic about it, waiting to see what more options come about is never a bad thing. Just don't catch the waiting disease... if you wait too long, you'll find yourself in a constant waiting hole with no devices you could otherwise be enjoying. :good:
I will say this, though. If you buy a Nexus 7, buy it from a local retailer. It's the same price as the N7 from Google Play, and plus you cut out the shipping time. Sorry Google, but being able to return a faulty N7 (in the event you get one) at a B&M store two miles away is still quicker than your (albeit, still fast) shipping turn around time.

The issue is not as great as the forums would make you believe. After all every single product ever made has a small number of defects.
Don't worry about it would be my suggestion.

Thanks for the suggestions. I guess my main concern is the reports of people going through 3 or 4 Nexus 7's, even at a retail store, before they find one that is acceptable.

I've had my Nexus 7 since it came out. Not a single defect or issue, its been great so far and I love it.

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Thanks for the suggestions. I guess my main concern is the reports of people going through 3 or 4 Nexus 7's, even at a retail store, before they find one that is acceptable.
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As with pretty much any product out there, I always take the online reviews with a grain of salt. A larger percentage of the people who had problems are likely to post compared to those that didn't have problems. Any time I buy something that causes me grief, I am generally ticked enough to want to post about it somewhere, but it rarely occurs to me to post something about products that work as promised and don't have issues.
This does not apply to my N7 because I love it so much I can not stop telling people. Mine has a tiny bit of screen lift that I would not have noticed if I had not read about it. Certainly not enough to want to try to return it. I may try one of the posted fixes but even that seems unlikely. Can't find the downtime...

The issues are there and they are real!
First Nexus = Creaking and Screen separation
Second Nexus = Screen separation
Third Nexus = Screen separation
Fourth Nexus = Severe creaking
Its sooooo sad as I love everything else about this freaking tablet! But the quality issues are out there just so you know it.

Huge issues
I think the screen lift screen crack and screen becoming un responsive is a HUGE Issue.. Its not just this forum where you see compalints.. You see it from tech reviews and so on.. I know that this is Hyped up causing to to be a bigger issue then it is . But the issue is not just the defects . Its how google and Asus has chosen to deal with this.. They have had my money cost of 3 tablets locked away due to exchange waiting . I Call and email with no response other then we will foreword it to a specialist .
I say get One From a Bick and Mortar store with a good reputation for taking care of there customers .. Buy a Extended warranty to where the STORE Has to deal with your device If and when it breaks.. I have never in my life seen such a Lack of Customer Service or Lack of Response for such issues .. Im left to where if i do not get a shipping confirmation and PAYMENT BACK TO MY BANK i will Have to file a complaint because im near the required time to do so with my card ... This is Pathetic..
so to everyone who says THERE IS NO ISSUE. READ THE INTERNET... im happy you have a perfect device it does happen But im getting the feeling there are as many defective ones as good ones...
OP if it seems like im trolling your Thread i am very sorry .. Just want to clear up some of the above GET IT GET IT COMMENTS. There are issues with this device . yes you can get lucky and get a good one.. JUST BE AWARE TO NOT GET IT FROM GOOGLE PLAY

"so to everyone who says THERE IS NO ISSUE. READ THE INTERNET... im happy you have a perfect device it does happen But im getting the feeling there are as many defective ones as good ones... "
Good advice, because everyone knows that everything you read on the internet is 100% true!!!!

I have one that has slight screen lift and creaking, but It's honestly not bad enough for me to worry about. I can't detect it unless I carefully look at it from the side, or press on the screen hard enough to make it flex. The case I have it in completely hides the problem.
Now, should it happen? No. But I bought a Nexus 7 because it was a fairly high-spec tablet that I didn't have to pay $500 for. I'm willing to accept a few compromises, especially when the cure (on-phone time, a bad refurb replacement) could be worse than the disease.
To minimize hassle, do what others have suggested and buy locally from a retailer with a good return policy.

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"so to everyone who says THERE IS NO ISSUE. READ THE INTERNET... im happy you have a perfect device it does happen But im getting the feeling there are as many defective ones as good ones... "
Good advice, because everyone knows that everything you read on the internet is 100% true!!!!
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bonjour!!! - state farm commerical. lol

primalmu said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I guess my main concern is the reports of people going through 3 or 4 Nexus 7's, even at a retail store, before they find one that is acceptable.
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The prevalence of screen lift is not being exaggerated. It's a widespread flaw, the cause of which is present in every unit. That's not to say that every display is separated, but the way the devices have been assembled through August (C8O serials) has left every Nexus 7 with an inadequate bond under the left side of the display.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29194958&postcount=372
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30703449&postcount=1
Although the adhesive is weak in that area, some other stress should be required to actually force the underside of the display away from the frame. That force is either frame warp or pressure from internal components. ASUS has begun omitting screws from the left side of the device in an attempt to remove some of the stress behind the separation. This points to frame warp as the primary contributor, but it's a partial fix at best.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870556
The fact that ASUS is now implementing reductive measures against screen lift as part of its assembly process should lay to rest any doubts about the scope of this flaw.
Having said that, I would not advise against buying a Nexus 7. It's still the best 7" tablet available, not to mention the best value for a tablet of any kind.
I went through three units with lift before deciding to wait it out, but this was not necessarily the correct decision. My second unit had merely the slightest lift and was well worth keeping, but users on this forum misled me to believe that screen lift was a rare thing so I exchanged it. My third one had more lift and exhibited distortion when pressed along the left side. That one was not worth keeping, so I decided to return it and wait for this issue to be fixed. Not sure if that's going to happen.
Like JaSauders said, the probability of lifted glass cracking during normal use seems very low, and if flexing the display caused a row of dead pixels, or any other sort of display failure, that would be covered under warranty.

I will say this, i never noticed the screen separation until I came to these forums and read about it, HOWEVER, now that I know about it, it drives me crazy.
On the flip side, if you plan to use a case that covers the bezel, you experience or see it anyway, so its not a big deal.
I haven't experienced any other issues aside from the screen seperation, and even then its not noticeable until you start messing with it.

I don't believe the problem is that uncommon.
Both units I've received so far have had the problem to some extent. The first one had it really bad and I exchanged it when I heard that it may be causing screens to crack. The 2nd one also had the problem, but the screen lift was so small that I wasn't worried about it. I still ended up exchanging the 2nd unit because of other issues (mostly the oleophobic coating was rubbing off) and should be receiving my 3rd one today.
If it means anything though, even with the screen lift problem, I still consider this the best tablet for the price and I have no interest in the new Kindle Fire or iPad Mini.

myke66 said:
I will say this, i never noticed the screen separation until I came to these forums and read about it, HOWEVER, now that I know about it, it drives me crazy.
On the flip side, if you plan to use a case that covers the bezel, you experience or see it anyway, so its not a big deal.
I haven't experienced any other issues aside from the screen seperation, and even then its not noticeable until you start messing with it.
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Putting case over the edge of the tablet is NOT a fix for the screen separation issues . Eventually the glass will move enough from this causing it to become weak. or a piece of dirt will get under the screen and it WILL CRACK Or crumble. Anytime hard glass is put in a situation where it can move independently being twist or bent It will weaken and crack .
I know this from Structural Engineering classes.. I have been a project manager for high rise construction for much longer then some of those on here are old. . Glass that is scratch / impact resistant MUST BE SECURED PERFECTLY . Must be allowed to expand and contract from edge to edge .. But must be fixed firmly and equally on all sides with no extra pressure or lack of in any area.. THE LAST Sentence here is the ISSUE WITH THE NEXUS TABLET
Now with the above said i to agree its the best Device right now with its size and cpu.. If there were a worthy 7 inch Device i would NOT OWN A NEXUS 7 .. check out the specs on the new corning-FIT Glass... There should be a metal frame for this glass to sit in..and it should over lap the edge of the screen NO GLASS From edge to edge ..
Of course this is all my opinion. Make your own judgement.. But do not Pretend there is not a issue just because you Love your device and you accept less then Perfect...

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Putting case over the edge of the tablet is NOT a fix for the screen separation issues . Eventually the glass will move enough from this causing it to become weak. or a piece of dirt will get under the screen and it WILL CRACK Or crumble. Anytime hard glass is put in a situation where it can move independently being twist or bent It will weaken and crack .
I know this from Structural Engineering classes.. I have been a project manager for high rise construction for much longer then some of those on here are old. . Glass that is scratch / impact resistant MUST BE SECURED PERFECTLY . Must be allowed to expand and contract from edge to edge .. But must be fixed firmly and equally on all sides with no extra pressure or lack of in any area.. THE LAST Sentence here is the ISSUE WITH THE NEXUS TABLET
Now with the above said i to agree its the best Device right now with its size and cpu.. If there were a worthy 7 inch Device i would NOT OWN A NEXUS 7 .. check out the specs on the new corning-FIT Glass... There should be a metal frame for this glass to sit in..and it should over lap the edge of the screen NO GLASS From edge to edge ..
Of course this is all my opinion. Make your own judgement.. But do not Pretend there is not a issue just because you Love your device and you accept less then Perfect...
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My screen never separates to the point where anything could get under it... it just lifts up enough where I can press it back down..I'm not sure that would ever be bad enough to crack the screen. I'm have a C8O build so it may not be as bad as previous models? Im not sure.

steevp said:
I don't believe the problem is that uncommon.
Both units I've received so far have had the problem to some extent. The first one had it really bad and I exchanged it when I heard that it may be causing screens to crack. The 2nd one also had the problem, but the screen lift was so small that I wasn't worried about it. I still ended up exchanging the 2nd unit because of other issues (mostly the oleophobic coating was rubbing off) and should be receiving my 3rd one today.
If it means anything though, even with the screen lift problem, I still consider this the best tablet for the price and I have no interest in the new Kindle Fire or iPad Mini.
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Update: Got the 3rd unit
It's one of the new C8O models and it's the best one I've gotten so far.
No screen lift, no flickering, none of the issues I had with the previous ones.
It's pretty much flawless as far as my eyes can tell.

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Update: Got the 3rd unit
It's one of the new C8O models and it's the best one I've gotten so far.
No screen lift, no flickering, none of the issues I had with the previous ones.
It's pretty much flawless as far as my eyes can tell.
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Congrats My C8O had minor lift, but last night I decided to glue it down and now its fine. Two drops of super glue and 5min later I havent had a problem all night/this morning. Played a bunch of 3D games to really heat it up and its golden.

I have the screen lift issue, but I have decided not to replace it. I would recommend that customers purchase the extended warranty at the store if in fact covers broken displays.
That said, I just rub down the face with a microfiber cloth before use and the lift is eliminated for a duration. Helps with the finger prints too.
That said, once a competing tab is released with the same specs I'd recommend that one instead. This QA issue will make me avoid Asus in the future. Google needs to vet OEMs better next time.

I've had four Nexus 7 tablets that have all had screen lift on the left side. Just got my latest one yesterday and it still has the issue. I've purchased lots of tablets and gadgets and this having to exchange something this many times and still getting a defects two months later is hardly normal or expected.
Fortunately the raised glass doesn't impair the functionality of the table (normally) and the tablet is pretty nice with stock Android Jelly Bean, Tegra 3, high DPI screen, and only $200/250. So all it's good points do outweigh ASUS incompetence to manufacture the tablet properly.

6P Glass Lift?

So this is my second Nexus 6P with this supposed issue. It seems like there is a lift or space between the screen and aluminum bezel. I just wanted to know if anyone else's phone is like this. This is my 2nd RMA, and everything else about the device is perfect other than this. Just wondering if its normal or I should definitely RMA again.
I attached a image link below
http://imgur.com/a/VA1qY
Cheers

Hmm. Now I see the same thing on my 6p. Sorry I don't have another device to take a picture.
Although I can never unsee this, I don't mind.

I have the same thing not to that extent on the power button side. Call it defect if you may but the device is working fine for me since day 1 release of the phone. If you're an ocd freak like 99.9% of the people here, then rma the device.

Every phone will have one issue or another, this is probably the least annoying and noticeable one.. I know it sucks that for this price we still get crappy quality overall, but I guess we just need to live with it.
I wouldn't RMA it honestly

gman88667733 said:
Every phone will have one issue or another, this is probably the least annoying and noticeable one.. I know it sucks that for this price we still get crappy quality overall, but I guess we just need to live with it.
I wouldn't RMA it honestly
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I agree. I am just worried it will get worse, plus i dont have nexus protect

oxxshadow said:
I agree. I am just worried it will get worse, plus i dont have nexus protect
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I have this issue and I am fairly rough with my phone (I work outdoors all day) and the issue has not gotten any worse with less than perfect treatment!! (It gets thrown around a lot...)

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I have this issue and I am fairly rough with my phone (I work outdoors all day) and the issue has not gotten any worse with less than perfect treatment!! (It gets thrown around a lot...)
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That gives some re-assurance, I guess if anything happens I still have that 1 year standard warranty.

Exactly!! This phone isn't as fragile as people say. But the overall quality is a bit lacking

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Exactly!! This phone isn't as fragile as people say. But the overall quality is a bit lacking
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I agree, I think google and Huawei could have done a better job at quality control. For example, I rarely see Apple devices with these inconsistencies. Not saying Apple is perfect, but they fore sure do a better job with QC.
Also, do you have this issue on both sides of the phone, on the side with the power button and without it? I just checked and its apparent a bit on the other side too. Just curious about yours.

Yep, both sides are pretty bad. I used to be so picky and ocd with devices and would send them back for the smallest of issues. I just don't have the time to be doing that now!!

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Exactly!! This phone isn't as fragile as people say. But the overall quality is a bit lacking
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but the glass is. GG4 or not. Mine shattered from a drop at car seat height (approx 2-2.5 ft) face down. had a tpu case on it but no screen cover. must have hit a tiny rock or something. couldn't really tell. disappointed in the GG4 for sure... I dropped other phones with never an issue... must be bad luck...

johnp357 said:
but the glass is. GG4 or not. Mine shattered from a drop at car seat height (approx 2-2.5 ft) face down. had a tpu case on it but no screen cover. must have hit a tiny rock or something. couldn't really tell. disappointed in the GG4 for sure... I dropped other phones with never an issue... must be bad luck...
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Every drop is different, people have reported dropping the 6P face down on concrete and having no damage.. In my experience, the screen scratches easily and unless you have a tempered glass screen protector, it will crack if you drop it.

You wonder why google doesn't improve quality control, the money wasted returning units, sending, and paying someone to answer your call, obviously the contractor must deal with this in the long run, but you'd expect google to be consistent at providing a nexus experience for consumers and want to reduce the amount of faulty units in circulation, these fault threads don't help with sales.
Seeing people talk about being on their 3rd+ unit, im surprised people tolerated with this. I got my unit from a mobile store who actually opened the unit and did their own quality control to reduce the costs of having to supply a remedy while the phone is being fixed.
I don't know about the laws in the states but here if your unit is faulty 2-3+ times, your legally allowed a refund.