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I miss my Note 4 Don't sell it!!!

So I sold my note 4 and got an s7 edge with bogo promo. I felt like i have dumped my wife for a flashy one night stand; who isn't as experienced around the bushes . . . I regret selling and feel like a part of me is gone. In all fairness the s7 edge is a nice phone(sd card, water res, flashy. But the n4 offers a more mature experience. Although my edge antutu was 149k v 51k on my n4.
My n4 had a more fluid experience. Marshmallow on the edge is underwhelming and feels unfinished. I get random slow downs and lag. The stock sound is horrible compared to the n4 and I miss v4a so much. No root, so community and dev seen is dead.
The only triumph the edge has is the camera. If it wasn't for all the free cash Sammy threw at me I wouldn't have jumped.
update 4/14/16
After the lastest update APC8 I have no more gripes with the phone. Battery live is great and performance is really fluid.

Yea, I upgraded from my old Galaxy S4 to the Note 5 at the end of last year, and regretted it so much I bought a Note 4. I can't live without the removable battery (yay for ZeroLemon!), SD card slot and IR blaster. Let's hope Samsung learns and puts all 3 back in the Note 6.

I'm a big upgrade guy, get the newest device as soon as it's out, sometimes to my detriment lol. I had the note 4, then the S5, then the note 5, then the S6, sold the Sold the S6 - didn't like it, went back to the note 5. Then the S7 came out, bought it hoping root would show up soon after, never did, returned it along with a $50 restock fee. Now I'm left with the Note 5 and Note 4. Thinking I'll sell the note 5 since I can get more money for it and the Note 4 still holds up very nicely. Might have to go w/ Nexus later in the year if bootloaders continue to be locked.
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exynos s7 is alive but still no removable battery.

I also swapped a note 4 for a s7e. I'm still torn, but my note 4 wasn't nearly as smooth.
I'm thinking I'll sell the 4. Then I'll wait for the 6 and all the s7e. The bogo still makes it worthwhile.

so wait, the bootloader on t-mo s7 and s7e is locked?

masri1987 said:
so wait, the bootloader on t-mo s7 and s7e is locked?
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Locked and likely to stay that way, IMO.

glensta said:
Might have to go w/ Nexus later in the year if bootloaders continue to be locked.
FWIW
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Phew! Tmo LG G5 bootloader is unlockable! :good: http://www.xda-developers.com/lg-g5-on-t-mobile-bears-unlockable-bootloader-afterall/
I'd be all about that phone if it had a bigger screen (still would want to keep my N4 though!)

I'm selling my note 4 because Samsung abandoned it to make people buy the new phone. So at my place of business I bought a Sprint S6 Edge Plus and successfully unlocked it to work on T-Mobile.

bvzxa3 said:
I'm selling my note 4 because Samsung abandoned it to make people buy the new phone. So at my place of business I bought a Sprint S6 Edge Plus and successfully unlocked it to work on T-Mobile.
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Huh? Sprint just came out with marshmallow for it. International and the rest of the carriers are soon to follow. How did Samsung abandon it?
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Dulanic said:
I also swapped a note 4 for a s7e. I'm still torn, but my note 4 wasn't nearly as smooth.
I'm thinking I'll sell the 4. Then I'll wait for the 6 and all the s7e. The bogo still makes it worthwhile.
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I found with dok2 debloated it was smooth or tek's rom and such. But i agree about the bogo and netflix credit.

bvzxa3 said:
I'm selling my note 4 because Samsung abandoned it to make people buy the new phone. So at my place of business I bought a Sprint S6 Edge Plus and successfully unlocked it to work on T-Mobile.
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Not abandoned. we have gotten lollipop and marshmallow is on the way with note 5 screen off memo. The only feature missing is the theme store thats all. Even that can be had with a n5 port.

icugotit2 said:
So I sold my note 4 and got an s7 edge with bogo promo. I felt like i have dumped my wife for a flashy one night stand; who isn't as experienced around the bushes . . . I regret selling and feel like a part of me is gone. In all fairness the s7 edge is a nice phone(sd card, water res, flashy. But the n4 offers a more mature experience. Although my edge antutu was 149k v 51k on my n4.
My n4 had a more fluid experience. Marshmallow on the edge is underwhelming and feels unfinished. I get random slow downs and lag. The stock sound is horrible compared to the n4 and I miss v4a so much. No root, so community and dev seen is dead.
The only triumph the edge has is the camera. If it wasn't for all the free cash Sammy threw at me I wouldn't have jumped.
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Didn't sell mine but the damn thing BROKE (as happened to numerous others on this forum). Will stay away from Samsung for the foreseeable future.

Im lookong to sell mines. Its on tmobile but unlocked ☺
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icugotit2 said:
So I sold my note 4 and got an s7 edge with bogo promo. I felt like i have dumped my wife for a flashy one night stand; who isn't as experienced around the bushes . . . I regret selling and feel like a part of me is gone. In all fairness the s7 edge is a nice phone(sd card, water res, flashy. But the n4 offers a more mature experience. Although my edge antutu was 149k v 51k on my n4.
My n4 had a more fluid experience. Marshmallow on the edge is underwhelming and feels unfinished. I get random slow downs and lag. The stock sound is horrible compared to the n4 and I miss v4a so much. No root, so community and dev seen is dead.
The only triumph the edge has is the camera. If it wasn't for all the free cash Sammy threw at me I wouldn't have jumped.
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if you're down to trade, i'm here anytime. LOL

icugotit2 said:
So I sold my note 4 and got an s7 edge with bogo promo. I felt like i have dumped my wife for a flashy one night stand; who isn't as experienced around the bushes . . . I regret selling and feel like a part of me is gone. In all fairness the s7 edge is a nice phone(sd card, water res, flashy. But the n4 offers a more mature experience. Although my edge antutu was 149k v 51k on my n4.
My n4 had a more fluid experience. Marshmallow on the edge is underwhelming and feels unfinished. I get random slow downs and lag. The stock sound is horrible compared to the n4 and I miss v4a so much. No root, so community and dev seen is dead.
The only triumph the edge has is the camera. If it wasn't for all the free cash Sammy threw at me I wouldn't have jumped.
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Note 4 was the longest phone i ever had. I moved on over to the Nexus 6P (to try the Stock Android everyone is always raving about). It is smoother than touchwiz and so far im liking it. Really not liking this new direction Samsung is going in with no root on the S7 and Edge even on T-mobile. If they will continue to do so i will be moving to another Brand and So far its most likely the Nexus's since its no BS and guaranteed root-ability and development. The nexus devices might not have every bell and whistle but they are pretty solid. I'm waiting next for the Note 6 and if its not up to my specifications/no root ill go with the Nexus 7P ( or whatever they call it) my devices need at least a 5.7 inch scree though.

OnePlus 3 is the best option besides Samsung and Nexus phones. I'm tired of waiting for updates all the time from Samsung.
It has fewer features than Note 4 but it has enough of what I need.
The Capacitive buttons are better than the Note 4, the fingerprint sensor works faster compared to Note 4's. The volume and power button is exactly like the Note 4's positions.
Unlocked bootloader, easy root, and custom roms already available.
It is so fast and quick, that I rarely have to wait for any app to launch. It has lots of customizations that are built within Android stock like UI and the only issue will be no removeable storage and battery.

Anyone else ditching Note 7 this year and getting something else? Stigma too great?

Just curious how many are ditching the Note 7 this year due to stigma for it even if it is revised and released again in the US soon. Is the stigma too great? Are you switching to Edge or v20? Also would the Edge be a big down grade? Is it a good idea maybe to go to the edge and then wait for S8 edge or Note next year? IS this years toast?

Switched to the Edge and waiting until next year.
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Keeping mine
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I would love to keep mine but the signal is dead I can't use it without Wi-Fi. I think they are forcing me to turn it in.
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I am going to do the full refund and hold tight for a bit. The Note 7 isn't wowing me like I hoped it would over my Note 5. I don't use the Iris scanner and don't really use the edge features. I would prefer a flat screen over the edge but this edge setup is better than the S7 edge I tried before. I am going back to my Note 5 for now and wait to see how the V20 and Google phones turn out. There is a chance I will come back to the Note 7 but between the Battery issue and the far to many real world reports of the glass scratching so easy, I am a bit put off on the Note 7 now.
I wish T-Mobile offered more options than they do. The only real options right now from T-Mobile is the S7's or the IPhone. Not saying they would be my chose but what about ASUS, Sony, OnePlus...

Love this device, not switching to another!
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Swapping mine out with a replacement N930T when they become available. My N920T is fulfilling my rooting needs.
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I an switching to the Axon 7. It's really good. Ofcourse, I will miss the SPen, water resistance and Samsung Pay, but other than that it's essentially the same.
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This is essentially the same topic as the thread below:
Will you be returning your Note7?
what will you do?
Full Refund
Exchange
Go Back to old Phone or new phone?
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Note 5, s7 Edge or Note 7?

So, I'm due an upgrade. A certain electronics dealer (not sure if it would be against the rules to name them) is running 2 promos: 1) Get a Note 5: get a $250 gift card at time of purchase. 2) Get any of the s7devices (Edge/Note too) and get a free 32" Sammy Smart TV. I don't really need the tv but the mother in law could use it. So, I literally cannot decide which to get. They have pros and cons all around. I'm a trucker, so my concern about the Edge's display is whether the glare along that curve would be annoying or distracting. My wife's s7 hasn't lagged yet, but reviews of both Notes mention lag (precious few reviews of Note 5 after MM update). Most reviews can't call a clear-cut "pick this one." And so, the freebies enter the equation. What do you guys think? I'm sure some of you had the 5. Do you think the 7 is significantly better? That it performs better?

Depends, I have been a note fan for along time. I use the s pen a bunch, and love the 5.7 inch screen size. I would say if you ate a note fan , and use the s pen a lot then go with the note 7. If you don't use the pen the the s7(or edge) would be good. I had the note 5 as my daily phone for a year, it's a solid phone, but the note 7 is better. The IP68 rating is awesome and I take the note 7 everywhere without worry about the weather. The battery performance is soo much better than the note 5 as well. I also was able to get the 256gb SD card for the Note 7 and its been great to be able to have all my music in my phone again. Hope this helps.
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Sorry for lateness of reply. I've been testing an s7 Edge and an iPhone 6s+ to see if either is a suitable "upgrade." Can't do the iPhone. It's just too limiting. BUT since the Note 7 is officially done for, is the Note 5 "just as good?" I use the S Pen semi-regularly, but it isn't essential. I can do what I do without it. So I'm down to these 3 phones: s7 Edge which is ok but I'm UNimpressed with its performance. Seriously. I expected better, for some reason. LG v20 which is costly and even the AT&T rep was telling me "I've had literally 10 LG V10s returned in 6 months for manufacturing flaws." I asked her to elaborate and she said "Screen issues. Lines and such." Or the Note 5. If the s7 isn't flawless IMO, then how can a half generation older device be any better? Any input is appreciated.

keithfrombm said:
is the Note 5 "just as good?"
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I think it depends who you ask, and of course what you want to use it for. It isn't a bad device, but to give you an idea, I skipped the Note 5 in favor of my Note 4 at the time because of the removable battery and no SD card. The Note 7 however, was new enough to get me over to the other side and give the "no removable battery" a go (one of the added reasons was also the 256 GB SD card lol).
Right now, my personal options for a new phone are Pixel, V20, S7 Edge or back to my old Note 4 for the time being. And in all honesty, unless I like how the S7 Edge feels within a cover, I'll likely end up with my Note 4 again. I need the space an SD slot can provide me, and well, I'm still kind of hooked to the idea of being able to remove a battery and put a new one in

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I think it depends who you ask, and of course what you want to use it for. It isn't a bad device, but to give you an idea, I skipped the Note 5 in favor of my Note 4 at the time because of the removable battery and no SD card. The Note 7 however, was new enough to get me over to the other side and give the "no removable battery" a go (one of the added reasons was also the 256 GB SD card lol).
Right now, my personal options for a new phone are Pixel, V20, S7 Edge or back to my old Note 4 for the time being. And in all honesty, unless I like how the S7 Edge feels within a cover, I'll likely end up with my Note 4 again. I need the space an SD slot can provide me, and well, I'm still kind of hooked to the idea of being able to remove a battery and put a new one in
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Like you, I held off on the 5 because of those issues. But I'm not a huge fan of the edges/curves. There's not a case on the market that provides decent protection for it simply due to the design. To make matters worse, Zagg pulled its tempered glass protectors because they weren't staying on. Haven't found one yet that does. Functionally, it's an awful design. It's easily broken. The v20 is an option, but it's really expensive, and I just can't justify that for an LG. They don't deserve it. I've never had luck with LG devices lasting. I'm not even remotely interested in the Pixel, but my Note 4 screen has burn-in. The s7 Edge isn't awful, but I was hoping for more in terms of performance. I may just return this one and get a regular s7.

The closest thing to the note 7 is the note 5.. I'm actually using both of them till I return my note 7..lol

I got the N5 when it came out, i was hesitant about the battery and memory (reason i got the 64gb) but i have had no issues. Im glad i didn't sell it. Its in perfect condition.
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keithfrombm said:
The v20 is an option, but it's really expensive, and I just can't justify that for an LG. They don't deserve it. I've never had luck with LG devices lasting.
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Hmm, I think that's a bit the thing. While I have read others saying similar things, I never had any issues with LG Prada that I had when it first came out. I loved that phone at the time.. but granted, it's also the only LG I ever owned so I don't really know for sure how the brand holds up with other models.

I bought an LG TV & Sound plate, and have owned a G2 & Tab 7.0. only the Tab 7 still works. Also, WAAAAY back in the day I had an LG Vu (in the pre-smart phone era). The $200 rebate helps lean me towards it.

keithfrombm said:
I bought an LG TV & Sound plate, and have owned a G2 & Tab 7.0. only the Tab 7 still works. Also, WAAAAY back in the day I had an LG Vu (in the pre-smart phone era). The $200 rebate helps lean me towards it.
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There's a rebate on the V20 with ATT? If so, that may just be it for me to get pulled into it.

svache said:
There's a rebate on the V20 with ATT? If so, that may just be it for me to get pulled into it.
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You have to trade in a paid off smartphone with a minimum value of $5. LOL I'm serious.

keithfrombm said:
You have to trade in a paid off smartphone with a minimum value of $5. LOL I'm serious.
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Hmm... darnit, I wish I didn't destroy a bunch of old smartphones a few months ago. Unsure if there's anything left besides my trusty Note 4... not really feeling like giving that phone up (plus it will get as much if not more when I sell it second hand).. imagine something like the Note 7 debacle happens again lol
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Hmm just quickly checked.. still have to Galaxy S's (the first one)... guess I could get rid of those lol
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Hmm it seems I have a few more old phones, but they're all older than the S and unsure if they are all qualified to them as "smartphone", I even still have the LG Prada lol

Att charges 830 for the v20 and T-Mobile charges 750. Att is a rip off.

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Att charges 830 for the v20 and T-Mobile charges 750. Att is a rip off.
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I agree, ATT is a lot more expensive, not just phones but also with the plans. Sadly it's also the only one (together with Verizon, but I want GSM for my trips to Europe so no chance I go to them) that has decent coverage in my state. T-mobile really lacks when it comes to coverage, their customer service isn't that great either in all honesty. The price is right, I agree, if only they had decent coverage then I could live with it I guess.

This might be good for us.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/10/23...tedly-let-customers-get-a-galaxy-s8-for-free/

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This might be good for us.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/10/23...tedly-let-customers-get-a-galaxy-s8-for-free/
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What about those that just stayed with their old Note 5. This is interesting. No point in me going to a s7 when i still have a perfect N5. Hope im not screwed for not jumping to the s7
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What about those that just stayed with their old Note 5. This is interesting. No point in me going to a s7 when i still have a perfect N5. Hope im not screwed for not jumping to the s7
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I am thinking of holding on to the note 7 shut it off and use my one plus 3 until the s8 arrives. Then I will exchange for a s7 edge.

I wanted to hold out with my N7 but when they banned them on flights I figured just switch and deal with it...I went with the s7 edge because it was the closest to the N7...I've had it a few weeks now and it's okay. does most of the things the N7 did...I am unhappy with the screen size and do wish I had the stylus...Battery life is similar..But I do feel like I have gone backwards...
I have been calling ATT cust service and my local store trying to convince them to let me get the upgrade when the N8/S8 comes out but they wont...so I'm unhappy I'm locked into this Next contract with a year old phone..
I read Samsung may be doing upgrade offers to the N8 for N7 owners so there is still hope....
This S7 edge is an okay replacement to get us thru but its not a N7....

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I wanted to hold out with my N7 but when they banned them on flights I figured just switch and deal with it...I went with the s7 edge because it was the closest to the N7...I've had it a few weeks now and it's okay. does most of the things the N7 did...I am unhappy with the screen size and do wish I had the stylus...Battery life is similar..But I do feel like I have gone backwards...
I have been calling ATT cust service and my local store trying to convince them to let me get the upgrade when the N8/S8 comes out but they wont...so I'm unhappy I'm locked into this Next contract with a year old phone..
I read Samsung may be doing upgrade offers to the N8 for N7 owners so there is still hope....
This S7 edge is an okay replacement to get us thru but its not a N7....
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You're not necessarily locked into it though.. if you have the Next 12, and if you still have several months to go until the 12 months, you could pay forward to get the upgrade. The rules are pretty much saying that it needs to be paid for 12 months, not that you cannot upgrade for 12 months. Meaning, you pay a few months extra (let's say it comes out in august, you would have to pay 2-3 months extra probably). It isn't a favorable option since the phone you're essentially renting from them becomes more expensive to rent, but I have had it confirmed by an ATT rep that this is indeed possible to do.

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You're not necessarily locked into it though.. if you have the Next 12, and if you still have several months to go until the 12 months, you could pay forward to get the upgrade. The rules are pretty much saying that it needs to be paid for 12 months, not that you cannot upgrade for 12 months. Meaning, you pay a few months extra (let's say it comes out in august, you would have to pay 2-3 months extra probably). It isn't a favorable option since the phone you're essentially renting from them becomes more expensive to rent, but I have had it confirmed by an ATT rep that this is indeed possible to do.
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I'm on the Next 30....I'll call ATT tomorrow and see if I can switch to the 12...ur right it's a better option altho i guess a little more expensive...

Giving up the Note 5 for a S7 Edge. Worth it?

I've gone through quite a few refurb phones and this last one they wanted to give me was filthy, had scratches, over all it was in bad shape. I wanted to exchange that for a new one but as it turns out, the Note 5 32/64gb has been discontinued! I already have an S7 edge and I still prefer my Note 5 but with the problems I've been having, it being discontinued, I feel like the safer route here would be to get a S7 Edge. Part of me wonders if I should go with the V20 instead. They have offered to transfer the balance over from the Note 5 (300 bucks) over to the new S7 Edge so I would not be paying full price for it. Thoughts?

I would keep the note 5, and wait for s8

I'm about to get rid of my S7 and go to the Note 5.

Well, I went from the Note 7 to the S7 Edge and I'm very pleased with the phone. The signal seems to be pretty good and the latest update has enabled 256 QAM and 64 QAM.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-mimo-256qam-technologies-faster-data-speeds/

I wouldn't beta testing for nougat closed 3 seconds after it opened lock bootloader I'm going somewhere else Samsung should be licking are nuts

Don't get the note 5, it sucks. I hated it so much, no sd card and only 32gb, battery life terrible. You will be good with the s7 edge, mine has finally grown on me and I couldn't go with another phone as of now. I was looking at the v20 because I have a jump next week but I'll stay with the s7 edge for now. I gave my Note 5 for the note 4 just last month and it was the best decision I've made
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I've gone through quite a few refurb phones and this last one they wanted to give me was filthy, had scratches, over all it was in bad shape. I wanted to exchange that for a new one but as it turns out, the Note 5 32/64gb has been discontinued! I already have an S7 edge and I still prefer my Note 5 but with the problems I've been having, it being discontinued, I feel like the safer route here would be to get a S7 Edge. Part of me wonders if I should go with the V20 instead. They have offered to transfer the balance over from the Note 5 (300 bucks) over to the new S7 Edge so I would not be paying full price for it. Thoughts?
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Honestly, I'm unsure if the Note 5 has an unlocked bootloader but I hate my S7 Edge. Not having a functional phone with root (ie no lag) sucks for a flash junkie like me. I jumped **** too soon and regret it!

I hate my s7 edge, boring phone without control. No different than iPhone sheep peeple

Except for the previous Verizon phones that I have, the tmo S7e is the first phone that I don't care to root. I had the Note 5 as well before the S7e. Seriously, if I can have 6 hrs SOT and amazing standby with Doze (and no crazy wake lock), I can live by without root.

It's a good phone. I don't root any phones anymore most are good out of the box.
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What will be your next phone?

With our Note 4 being long in the tooth and less developer support available. What will be your next phone of choice? I am leaning towards the new Note 8, not from a developer's view, but pure performance, if the specs are to be believed.

Difficult to say. I like the note series a lot, but without a removable battery I'm not sold on it.

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Difficult to say. I like the note series a lot, but without a removable battery I'm not sold on it.
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Which high phone still has a removable battery?

LG V20. Let's see what the V30 is all about.

I'm a little tired of not being able to run AOSP roms without having rando issues BT, WIFI "Samsung phones are not AOSP friendly since I've been on the S3." I think I'm waiting out for the pixel 2.

Im going to have my Note 4 for backup but im going to my non rootable Note 8
unless the Google Pixel 2 is great because root is life but removable batteries can be worked around

I have to stick with a Note. I'm hoping the Exynos Note 8 can be rooted. But, will an Exynos phone even work with Sprint's CDMA? I've always had Sprint phones in the past. When I had to turn in my Note 7 I was actually happy to go back to my Note 4, so I might just hold onto it for a while longer. I'm hoping that Samsung will come out with a Note Classic at some point with today's specs, fingers crossed!

This is my next phone!
Came from Note 3.
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With current choices, I'm waiting on Axon 8 on a non CDMA carrier. If Note 5 had more internal memory I might have considered it... last year.
Not holding my breath for a rootable Note 8 in my price range. Samsung ruined it for me with locked bootloaders with no unlock support, bent-fragile-expensive screens and carriers dropping subsidized phone contracts. The Note was a phone I could hold for duration of contract; I might have stayed with Sprint if those hadn't happened but Sprint and Note 4 EOL will end my tenure with both brands and CDMA. No more is my goal unless much changes on all fronts.
Phone UPGRADE will likely mean breaking all former trends. Good run on phones but data was always slow and many considered the Samsung phones as toys; neither weren't serious with data connection. That's the way I often feel while traveling and outdoors on vacation.
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I had picked up Note 4 after the Note 5 hit the market. With all of discounts being offered then, I actually was paid a $1 to upgrade from my Note II. So I got two, one for me and one for my wife. I'm sure such deals are a thing of the past.
I was thinking about getting the international version of the Note 8, which may be customized.

Note 8. My Note 4 is dying (emmc errors, freezes, reboots), so I have to replace it with something soon. I'm an S Pen addict, so that doesn't leave me with much choice.
Android has lost its luster for me. Yeah, I can choose launchers, etc., but that novelty has worn off. So if I could wean myself off the S Pen, I might even consider an iPhone.

200 dollars off the pixel XL is tempting.

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200 dollars off the pixel XL is tempting.
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A Pixel? Seriously? Ewwww... there's no accounting for taste, I guess.

Goodluck running AOSP roms on any samgung device without having some sort of issue. Had APN issues since my S3.

I will continue using my Note 4 until it's guts fall to the floor at which point I will duct tape them back in for one more round. Too many features I love are being removed from ALL the new phones....
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I'm having a hard time searching for another phone while my note 4 is still kicking. It's a tie between essential phone and pixel 2. Only time will tell. I want to stay on Sprint and have a phone with a large xda following.

I had a note 4 then it crapped out about a year ago. Had the choice between a note 5 and the S7. Went with the S7 because the note 5 wasn't getting very good reviews then. This was about two weeks before the note 7 release (dodged a bullet?). The S7 is solid but too small. I found a note 4 online for $80, rooted it and am very happy with it. Been looking at the S8 but it's a bit pricey. Will look at the note 8 if it ever comes out but who knows? I like the note 4 so much I went back to it.
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another note 4. i hate losing removable batterry, IR port, sPen
may be LG V20 (but it's dont have spen ( )

Tha_Dynasty2049 said:
Im going to have my Note 4 for backup but im going to my non rootable Note 8
unless the Google Pixel 2 is great because root is life but removable batteries can be worked around
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Sooo after seeing the Note 8 now
I find myself saying im just going to keep my note 4 until im happy with others phones and getting root lol
plus i removed insurance on my phone because its 13 dollars cheaper and if my phone breaks a new note 4 is like 150 or less on ebay or swappa.
Its like how do you give up free hotspot with many custom options and removable battery
for a high phone thats gonna add much more to your bill total anddd lose root and restricted hotspot for some and no removable battery

I have a new V20 in case my note 4 craps out. No chance I'm buying a phone that is not rootable. I don't care how nice and polished the Note 8 is. Once you start browsing the internet or youtube without an ad blocker its like going back to the dial-up days. Eff that. I don't need a polished turd such as the Note 8 with all "edge" and "bixby" nonsense. The Note 4 is still a very capable phone that has a lot more features than the 8.