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When my phone is fully charged or has 70 or 60% remaining battery it seems to drain as normal, around 2-5% over a 10 hour or so period...
However, I've noticed once the battery decreases below 50% it drains FAST, why?
Anyone else noticed this? Test it for yourselves, monitor the TIME it takes to decrease from 100 to 50% and then from 50% to 0.
Yesterday I forgot my phone in the car whilst going to work. It was turned on however it was sitting all day in the car.
Once I returned from work I was shocked to find the phone would not turn on.
At first I thought there was a problem or some kind of fault. Once I plugged in the charger it started to charge, the battery cut and the phone automatically turned off!
I remember the phone had around 48% battery remaining, no wifi or 3g or data turned on. It was simply idling...
So the question is HOW can the battery drain from 48% to 0% over a 10 hour period without being used???
Should my battery of been ANYTHING over 50% it would only lose a few percent...
Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?
boubou2k said:
Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?
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Same thing happnd with me, and charging my phone thru electric charger..
So it seems this behaviour happens to several other Note users, why?
It's a problem knowing that having around 50% left in your battery will struggle to make it through the day with little to no use...
Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.
Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.
EarlZ said:
Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.
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Haha, nice to know I'm not the ONLY one facing this bug...
I can only hope Ice Cream Sandwich solves this battery drain issue.
Hmm, i think i have the same problem, but i'm not sure. Will get back to this thread when i've investigated a little bit.
This may be a typical samsung issue.
I remember when i had the spica , the battery percentage lining in kernel was totally wrong. I think its done on purpose so you would feel like you have more battery life. 75 % of the battery drains slow. And the rest 25 super fast. Can be fixed within kernel.
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I believe its just a placebo effect. Battery usage always depends on so many factors its a pain to even consider starting looking for the issue.
Being on stock KK5 not rooted, i cannot report the same. I only see "fast battery drain" at the last 4-5%. If you feel its an issue, could you post the firmware version you are on and the battery stats graph just for reference?
Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.
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Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.
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When you get the chance, could you post the battery stats graph please? what we should see is a (lets say) 30 degrees angle and at about halfway it gets steeper.
I know its quite hard to demonstrate the issue, but if you lets say use wifi to browse the first 50% in text only sites and then visit youtube for the last 50%, it won't help the test.
A nice way to test it would be to charge it to 100%, then load up a long movie and repeat playing it till the battery is 2-3%. Then post the results.
roxxy said:
Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.
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When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Hey there!
I would suggest to load the battery 100%, plug it out, go into recovery and wipe battery stats.
I have to admit that I don´t know exactly what this workaround does, but I read about it in another forum...and it worked for me, my battery status is much more accurate now!
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When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Wifi will continue to scan for wlans near it every second or so
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I'm back. I've had the Diagnosis app running for the past hour, and i got some interesting results.
---Wiping battery stats does not help---, a full charge automatically causes battery stats reset.
I full charged mine with the electric charger after fully discharging it without turning it on.
This time i didn't notice any change in discharge speed between 100%-50% and 50%-0%.
Last time I charged the phone it was not fully discharged. Charged it from 30% to 50% then 50% to 75% on the computer, and 75% to 100% using electric charger.
It's just a supposition, but maybe doing several partial charges while using the phone makes the battery % information inaccurate (wrong battery stats?).
[Edit]In this case, wiping battery stats should show accurate battery %. [/Edit]
I had a similar problem, and I think it is to do with some incorrect scaling or measurement.
I was down to 28%, and it seemed to be draining fast even though I was not using it. I rebooted (I love how quick that is after my Arc was so slow). On restart it was at 17% ! The usage graph just did an instant drop.
I also had another occasion where it remained at 100% for 2 1/5 hours of use.
I assume some calibration issues caused the meter to read the battery wrong. I am turning off on the w/e overnight (when I do not need the alarm) to see if a slow (180 mA) charge while off will help. I may even get a decent alarm clock so I can turn the phone off at nights and charge. I spend too much time in the morning checking my email and reading news!
What is more consistent on mine is that when the battery drops to 9% or less the loss is like 1% per ~10-15% and this is with wifi/3g off, phone locked.
I'm back again. I've had some serious battery drain the last couple of days, but i noticed that Auto Sync was enabled. Once i deactivated it it got much better. Pulled the phone from the charger 9 hours ago and i'm at 90% battery left. I've sent some SMS, a few calls and that's about it, but it doesn't drain while it's in standby now, so i'm happy with it.
Is anyone experiencing weird issues with battery before recharging? i had 2 days phone on batt and 3hrs screen on. It was at 53 % before i decided to charge. I fully charged it and now im losing 10% every hour even with phone on idle. Its weird cause every other charge will last a long time.
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Is anyone experiencing weird issues with battery before recharging? i had 2 days phone on batt and 3hrs screen on. It was at 53 % before i decided to charge. I fully charged it and now im losing 10% every hour even with phone on idle. Its weird cause every other charge will last a long time.
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Yeah, I'm still stock on this phone and I'm getting inconsistent battery life. I usually charge every night, so I'm running about 16-17 hours per day. Almost identical usage each day but one day I'll plug in with 45-50% remaining and the next it will be dead when i plug in. Very odd. I'm going to root this thing just so I can get rid of the bloat apps. Well, that may not be the only reason I root. I may be compelled to put some AOSP on this and see how it rocks it.
well i don`t really recommend to ROOT stock rom, it caused for me a battery drain ! also KitKat known for drain issue even on Pure android on Nexus 5. I don`t really know a fix but i`d give u some tip and it might help
1. Re-flash D80020c
2. After re-flash do a factory reset
3. Don`t root or mod your OS
4. Turn off Sync or Location Service (or set to battery saver mode)
i did those steps and i have 34 hour on battery:
3 Hour screen on time (and about 30-40 min gaming in this 3 hour)
Left about 49%
i hope i helped a little
Potential solutions:
Have a look in Settings > General > Battery and see what seems to be using the most power. You could have a problem app that’s using GPS or trying to update frequently. If you can identify the culprit then you can remove it.
There’s a slim chance you have a faulty handset. If adjusting your usage and tweaking settings doesn’t’ result in any improvement then take your LG G2 back to the retailer or carrier and get a replacement.
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Potential solutions:
Have a look in Settings > General > Battery and see what seems to be using the most power. You could have a problem app that’s using GPS or trying to update frequently. If you can identify the culprit then you can remove it.
There’s a slim chance you have a faulty handset. If adjusting your usage and tweaking settings doesn’t’ result in any improvement then take your LG G2 back to the retailer or carrier and get a replacement.
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I always have location turned off with all bloatware rwmoved. I honestly think you have to drain it to about 20% then charge. Cause i never have problems when i do that. Gonna try and drain it out again and recharge and see what happens then.
Are you having issues on KitKat out jellybean?
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Are you having issues on KitKat out jellybean?
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Its kitkat,it says rooted d80020c in my signature. Well here is my latest results. Left it on overnight and was at 53% with data off. Checked it this morning and everything was back to normal again no battery drain or low estimated battery times.weird cause i charged it around this percentage. I think you have to take it down to at least 20 before charging will find out later today when i charge.
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Its kitkat,it says rooted d80020c in my signature. Well here is my latest results. Left it on overnight and was at 53% with data off. Checked it this morning and everything was back to normal again no battery drain or low estimated battery times.weird cause i charged it around this percentage. I think you have to take it down to at least 20 before charging will find out later today when i charge.
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well i really not heard about Deep sleep drain but while idle it`s drains bit faster then JB, with jb i could get max 40 hour and about 6hr screen on time and + 10-15% battery while on KK i can get 42 hour but about 5 hr and 45 min screen on time with 0% battery it`s seems a bit problem for 4.4.2 i think Google will fix it and hopefull we`ll get new update from AT&T if this prob will fixed
P.S i saw that if battery at 100%, overnight it won`t fall to 99 but while battery is on below 100% it drains about 1-2 % overnight is that a known prob?
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well i really not heard about Deep sleep drain but while idle it`s drains bit faster then JB, with jb i could get max 40 hour and about 6hr screen on time and + 10-15% battery while on KK i can get 42 hour but about 5 hr and 45 min screen on time with 0% battery it`s seems a bit problem for 4.4.2 i think Google will fix it and hopefull we`ll get new update from AT&T if this prob will fixed
P.S i saw that if battery at 100%, overnight it won`t fall to 99 but while battery is on below 100% it drains about 1-2 % overnight is that a known prob?
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1-2% overnight seems pretty good. Im sure thats normal.
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1-2% overnight seems pretty good. Im sure thats normal.
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2% overnight is pretty good, given that it's on WIFI I'm assuming?
I lost 25% overnight last night when I was off WIFI, so I factory resetted mine.
Took it down to 20% and discharged and its fine. Im guessing its a bug,but, easy fix just take the battery down to 20% or lower before charging
1) Charge ur phone while off untill u reach 100%
2)Remove the battery but dont unplug the phone from wallcharger
3)Reinsert the battery, you will see 0%
4) Let the battery charge, when reach 100% power on the phone without unplugging wallcharger.
Now should be all good
you are kidding right ?
This is the one of the worst advices I've heard..... Overcharging the battery is dangerous.
It will actually degrade the batteries performance
I don't know what to say. Does this work?
Also by battery jumping do you mean those crazy drops between reboots or just drops due to lack of deep sleep?
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you are kidding right ?
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fburgos said:
This is the one of the worst advices I've heard..... Overcharging the battery is dangerous.
It will actually degrade the batteries performance
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U know how the LIB works? How Android manage the battery?
Try yourself and see! This is not overcharging
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I don't know what to say. Does this work?
Also by battery jumping do you mean those crazy drops between reboots or just drops due to lack of deep sleep?
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Btw the drop between reboots
Battery bin tracks the battery usage giving an estimate of the charge been used, battery .bin gets wiped every time it get to 100%, and the tracking of battery's current starts
As I remember lithium batteries charge in two cycles
1- constant current
2- constant voltage near the full capacity.
But then if you trick the phone to read battery as 0% then you are sending more current to an already full battery overcharging.
The jumping of battery percentage is because a bug in the battery "gauge"
But as always if in wrong, my apologies and I'll be more than happy to read your source.
Biggest issue is that the battery has a very poor C-rating, and has huge voltage drops under heavy load. The reboot battery problem comes from this; when you reboot your phone, or other times as well, the heavy usage spike drops the battery voltage down. Android system them detects this low voltage and just assumed the battery is almost empty. Normally there is some averaging going on to remove these spikes, and even then the battery % only goes down, so when the voltage recovers it just shows the same % for longer. Problem when rebooting is that it only sees this low, under load voltage and acts accordingly.
If the voltage isn't low enough so the phone shuts down, you might get 30minutes of screen time while the battery is showing 1%.
My problem is that the last 14% of my battery lasts under a minute before the phone shuts down. So I just treat 15% as actually meaning 1%.
Also, you can't dangerously over charge the battery, it has protection circuitry built in, and the li-ion charger part will detect the real voltage. This "supercharging" does however cost some long term lifetime from it, so it shouldn't be done too often.
Please excuse me, this is long.
Hello guys. I need some advice. I use I9195.
From the past 2 weeks i am facing serious battery drops
while phone is in standby.
I must mention that in the last 2 months my phone accidentally dropped onto marble floor 4-5 times.
Each time i checked to see if everything was working and everything did. But from the last time i dropped i began to notice this battery drain.
I made sure all hardware is working.
No problem with display even after all those drops.
(only minor scratches)
Earpiece, 2 cameras, speaker, mic, wifi, bluetooth all work fine. Network quality is great. This is the behavior with any rom, any modem and any usage.
When in standby, battery drains upto 2-3% every hour.
No background apps/services , wakelocks or anything that keeps device awake. And yet the drop is steep and is solely due to "cell standy".
I have no screenshots but here is a scenario :::
From 98% to 33% in ,
16hrs usage, 1hr33min awake and 1hr16min screen on.
Wifi enable half the time and 3g data was disabled.
EDIT :: New battery did not solve this drain.
Hey guys. Please suggest what should i be doing.
Read post above. Can new battery help ?
Thanks. [emoji29]
Same problem here i also need help.
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My phone dropped 5-6 times and .org works fine now.
NihAl HarvarD said:
Same problem here i also need help.
From GT-I9192.
My phone dropped 5-6 times and .org works fine now.
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what do you mean by "" .org works fine now ""
Typo
Last week I got a new battery installed in my Nexus 4. I was using the original, around 2 year old battery, and I found it would drain very quickly below 50%. I had a shop install the new battery for me, I don't know if it was an official LG battery or not.
I ran the battery down to zero percent my first night with it, and have charged it at night ever since.
When I unplug the battery in the morning the battery percentage will suddenly drop down to 88-94% in about 1 minute. After this the battery drains normally and I get good battery life.
Today I tried charging it back up to 100% after it had dropped to 88 %. It charged to 100, and drained normally down to 95. Then, in a minute or two, it dropped down to 84, and has been draining normally.
Battery life is good, but the strange behaviour makes me think something is wrong with the battery. My question is: is something wrong with this battery, or is this normal behaviour? If it is, than I can ask them to give me a new battery. All this is with the stock ROM. I flashed 5.1 since getting the new battery.
Exactly the same here: Old battery made a worn-out impression, so bought a new one. Actually tried three different new ones from ebay now, all do the same: They charge up to 4.3V around, and when unplugged drain to 87% in a few minutes, i noticed the voltage going down to 4.0/.1V mostly, too.
The current battery seems ok from battery life, but i want an even distribution of the battery status, no matter the voltages - how can i achieve/fix this?
Same here.
Are there any solutions for this issue?
Hi everyone!
I got a Note 4 a few days ago and it has battery issues.
I got it second hand online from a guy I don't know. I'm from Romania, I think the phone is from the UK, it's Verizon branded. The model is SM-N910V and the Android version is 6.0.1. It's not rooted. I noticed this V version isn't very common.
The battery that came with it was pretty poor, it would drain in a few hours with minimal usage and the worst problem is the phone would suddenly shut down at about 30-35% battery life. Then it would go into a booting loop, without being able to actually boot until I plugged it in.
I bought a new genuine battery from a popular online store here (F64), battery life is better, but still with just wifi, it went to 50% in about 2 hours of browsing. Without wifi or data (very little), it lasted for a day and a half. But the phone suddenly shut down at 8% battery life, again going into a booting loop, without being able to actually boot until I plugged it in. I'd also like to mention, when the new battery came, it only had 4% battery life left (I heard they should come about half charged, is that true?) and also there were a few reviews from people who had to try multiple batteries from this store until they got lucky with a good one. Both the old and the new batteries look identical, I don't see any signs of counterfeit.
Should I return the battery and try a new one? Is there a chance there's something wrong with the device itself?
Thank you very much!
Common problem.
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Common problem.
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I noticed that. Any solution?
My real fear is if there's something wrong with the device, because I can't return it.
carabus1206 said:
Hi everyone!
I got a Note 4 a few days ago and it has battery issues.
I got it second hand online from a guy I don't know. I'm from Romania, I think the phone is from the UK, it's Verizon branded. The model is SM-N910V and the Android version is 6.0.1. It's not rooted. I noticed this V version isn't very common.
The battery that came with it was pretty poor, it would drain in a few hours with minimal usage and the worst problem is the phone would suddenly shut down at about 30-35% battery life. Then it would go into a booting loop, without being able to actually boot until I plugged it in.
I bought a new genuine battery from a popular online store here (F64), battery life is better, but still with just wifi, it went to 50% in about 2 hours of browsing. Without wifi or data (very little), it lasted for a day and a half. But the phone suddenly shut down at 8% battery life, again going into a booting loop, without being able to actually boot until I plugged it in. I'd also like to mention, when the new battery came, it only had 4% battery life left (I heard they should come about half charged, is that true?) and also there were a few reviews from people who had to try multiple batteries from this store until they got lucky with a good one. Both the old and the new batteries look identical, I don't see any signs of counterfeit.
Should I return the battery and try a new one? Is there a chance there's something wrong with the device itself?
Thank you very much!
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Return the battery.
The seller store the battery in a very poor way.
Lithium should be kept at around 40% charged if you store it for a long time (more than 1 month)
I have 5 batteries with me, 3 of them are considered broken (70 - 60% left)
The last 2 are still in very good condition, around 98 - 99%
About your device, you will need around a few days of charge cycle with a good battery.
d4rkkn16ht said:
Return the battery.
The seller store the battery in a very poor way.
Lithium should be kept at around 40% charged if you store it for a long time (more than 1 month)
I have 5 batteries with me, 3 of them are considered broken (70 - 60% left)
The last 2 are still in very good condition, around 98 - 99%
About your device, you will need around a few days of charge cycle with a good battery.
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Thanks for your answer. I didn't know batteries for this phone are so problematic.
I just charged it to 100% slowly from my PC, will use it normally and see how much the battery lasts and if it shuts down again. As I went through forums, some people say I need to do battery calibration. If it's still bad, I'll return it.
Thanks again!
Try to get a battery direct from Samsung. Failing that buy a PowerBear or Anker. Do a factory reset and calibrate your battery by fully charging it, then running it down to 0% (if it shuts down, keep turning back on until it won't turn on). Then charge fully back to 100% again - DO NOT USE FAST CHARGE.
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Try to get a battery direct from Samsung. Failing that buy a PowerBear or Anker. Do a factory reset and calibrate your battery by fully charging it, then running it down to 0% (if it shuts down, keep turning back on until it won't turn on). Then charge fully back to 100% again - DO NOT USE FAST CHARGE.
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I will look for a store somewhere. I don't think I can find those two brands here.
I did a factory reset when I bought it a few days ago, but that was with the old battery. Will do the factory reset after I drain it to 0% later today.
I don't have a 'fast charge' charger, and I have it disabled in settings.
Thank you for your response!
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Thanks for your answer. I didn't know batteries for this phone are so problematic.
I just charged it to 100% slowly from my PC, will use it normally and see how much the battery lasts and if it shuts down again. As I went through forums, some people say I need to do battery calibration. If it's still bad, I'll return it.
Thanks again!
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I will look for a store somewhere. I don't think I can find those two brands here.
I did a factory reset when I bought it a few days ago, but that was with the old battery. Will do the factory reset after I drain it to 0% later today.
I don't have a 'fast charge' charger, and I have it disabled in settings.
Thank you for your response!
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What I said before is for all phone that uses Lithium Battery.
Lithium Battery must be kept in a storage at around 40 - 80% charged & must avoid hot places if you don't use it for a long time.
Draining Lithium Battery to 0% will deteriorate the battery faster so it's a big NO.
Calibration is done on the phone not the battery.
Delete "batterystats.bin" to calibrate the battery gauge.
Calibration is useless if the battery is bad (you received it at 0% it means that the storage condition is bad thus the battery is bad.
Charging from PC is a BIG NO as USB port on PC only provide around 500mAh & usually it's unstable.
The charging rate is too low & it could deteriorate the battery faster too.
And the last....I think factory reset doesn't necessary reset the batterystats.bin, so you have to delete it manually if you are rooted or follow this link if you are not rooted.
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What I said before is for all phone that uses Lithium Battery.
Lithium Battery must be kept in a storage at around 40 - 80% charged & must avoid hot places if you don't use it for a long time.
Draining Lithium Battery to 0% will deteriorate the battery faster so it's a big NO.
Calibration is done on the phone not the battery.
Delete "batterystats.bin" to calibrate the battery gauge.
Calibration is useless if the battery is bad (you received it at 0% it means that the storage condition is bad thus the battery is bad.
Charging from PC is a BIG NO as USB port on PC only provide around 500mAh & usually it's unstable.
The charging rate is too low & it could deteriorate the battery faster too.
And the last....I think factory reset doesn't necessary reset the batterystats.bin, so you have to delete it manually if you are rooted or follow this link if you are not rooted.
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Thank you very much! I will reply with updates soon!
I had a similar problems, and I have received my new battery yesterday which has been charged in 51% so I drained it to 1%-0% without unexpected shutting downs, I have charged it again and so far it seems to be ok
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Delete "batterystats.bin" to calibrate the battery
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Can you tell me where it is? In which folder
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Thank you very much! I will reply with updates soon!
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Hi, I didn't return the new battery after all, I think it 'calibrated' itself after the first charge. Also it goes from 100% to 1% and shuts down properly now.
I did two tests on full battery:
- barely using it, no wifi, data etc, just a few short calls (probably 30 mins of OST) and it lasted almost 6 days
- stress test, wifi and data on, gps with maps and waze on, maximum brightness and and a very long youtube video playing constantly (screen on) and it lasted about 5 hours and 30 mins
In normal use it lasts me about 2 days, but it slightly worries me that if I keep mobile data on all the time it only lasts until the end of the first day.
Would this be considered a good battery life for the Note4?
Thanks to everyone for replying and helping!!