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That's the question! I have MXP right now, great phone, but I thing I like AMOLED screen more... like a hundred bucks
No way, keep the Moto X. You'll see the first time you try to use the N6 outdoors. Also, the camera sucks on the N6 when compared to the Moto X. But hey, the choice is yours!
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Damn cat knocked my N6 off a table and shattered the screen yesterday and I am exactly in the same boat. I just don't know which to buy. If there are any Moto X Pure users in here coming from an N6 I would love to hear your arguments on this.
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The fact that the MXP is "newer" and has, mostly, better specs would haunt me if I got a N6. I wanted a N6 so bad just before I heard of the MXP, but after I read the specs on the MXP I was glad I waited to get it.
If I got a N6, it would "bother" me that there was a similar, better phone out.
Former N6 user. I loved the device, but I switched because the camera was useless for videos (OK for photos) and lack of storage space (64 GB is not available locally and even that isn't enough storage so microSD is a must).
rsohne said:
Damn cat knocked my N6 off a table and shattered the screen yesterday and I am exactly in the same boat. I just don't know which to buy. If there are any Moto X Pure users in here coming from an N6 I would love to hear your arguments on this.
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I came from the N6 the Mxp. The screen is better on the N6, also battery life. The Mxp feels great in the hand, despite having a big screen and I can operate it one handed, couldn't do that on the N6. I had the 32gb version N6, so I filled it up fast with music and other media. I had to stream content a lot which used up a lot of data. I also didn't like using the cloud, because it depends on a strong data connection. The Mxp solved this problem with the sd card slot. Popped in my 64gb card and ended all the cloud stuff and streaming. Call quality is better on the Mxp, I can hear people better and clearly. On the N6, I had to sometimes turn the volume all the way up to hear. The speakers on the Mxp are phenomenal. Through the headset they sound great with my beats headphones. The headset quality on the N6 wasn't good. Overall I like both phones, your choice will depend on how you use phone storage wise and if you like Amoled vs. LCD.
Let's wait and see how much for the new Nexus 6P next week, especially the 64GB and 128GB versions.
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That's the question! I have MXP right now, great phone, but I thing I like AMOLED screen more... like a hundred bucks
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That's for the lowest model of the Moto X Pure. If you compare 32gb versions, it'll be N6 $300 vs MXP $450. Cause apps these days, 16gb wont cut it for long.
czaplin said:
That's the question! I have MXP right now, great phone, but I thing I like AMOLED screen more... like a hundred bucks
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I was just watching this last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j2yu9l6OaM
This was a VERY good comparison. I was not at all happy with the Nexus. I used it for a week and was over it. For me the Moto X is the way to go.
sebastianraven said:
I was just watching this last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j2yu9l6OaM
This was a VERY good comparison. I was not at all happy with the Nexus. I used it for a week and was over it. For me the Moto X is the way to go.
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Yeah, I think I'll keep MXP (N6 was for $300 on ebay last night!). However, I owned N6 before and I was spoiled with AMOLED, which is not as bright as MXP though. MXP is superior by far. I love sd card slot and how fast it is overall. I only hate that you lose warranty once you unlock bootloader. But for me root is a must. Included wall charger charges with supersonic speeds.
I am trying to make this decision now but between the 64GB Nexus 6 for $370 or my MXP which once I factored in tax, a memory card and and everything came out to be about $530 (32GB, wood back, 64GB card microsd). I am wondering if the $160 difference is worth it. I may go check out a Nexus at the mall.
I think you should wait until tomorrow for google to announce the new Nexus 6 before making a decision. That phone may be in your price range and significantly better than the old Nexus 6.
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I am trying to make this decision now but between the 64GB Nexus 6 for $370 or my MXP which once I factored in tax, a memory card and and everything came out to be about $530 (32GB, wood back, 64GB card microsd). I am wondering if the $160 difference is worth it. I may go check out a Nexus at the mall.
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I changed my mind and I'm returning MPX. Battery life sucks, no wireless charging and my Aukey quick charger is not working with Moto. No Band 12 for T-Mobile is not a big deal, no sd card as well (I can live with 32GB). AMOLED is better for Moto Display. Returning mine tomorrow to Best Buy. Keeping N6 and waiting for cheaper N6P Na zdrowie!
I have both phones the MXP is like the N6s little brother not quite as good as big brother the battery sucks I have had many phones the battery will never get better. Signal strength(4G) is not as good close but no cigar which may get fixed with new radio but I wouldn't hold my breath. Unless the new N6 is a super phone the old N6 is still the best phone out there. The Note 4 is a excellent phone but lack of development killed it.
The N6 is simply too big for me. The form factor alone makes the difference to me. Otherwise the N6 is a very nice device at a great price, although I also appreciate the moto enhancements.
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The price is only about $100 more given you keep storage options about the same.
The only downside I see to the Nexus 6P is no SD slot and it costs more. I originally wanted the Moto X since it was affordable, has SD storage and was 5.7inches. The Nexus seems to be a better option with the only downside being no SD storage and it's a bit more expensive, although in my opinion AMOLED is a better screen choice than LCD so the Nexus has that going for it too, and a bigger battery....... Here is what I "think" I know after watching the event.
Nexus 6P
Pros:
USB-C
Larger battery 3450mah vs 3000 mah on the X
Faster software updates
Marshmallow preinstalled
AMOLED screen
Cons:
A little more expensive
no SD card slot.
Moto X Pure(Style)
Pros:
Cheaper
SD Card Slot
Cons:
LCD screen as opposed to AMOLED
Smaller battery 3000mah vs 3450mah
micro USB vs USB-C
Is anyone else struggling with this?
I was struggling until about 3 minutes ago when I ordered a 128GB graphite 6P. I'm honestly still not convinced I actually need to upgrade from my current Nexus 6. Heck I was even going to hold out hope that there might be a DROID with a fat battery and unlockable bootloaders. I love Motorola and their signal is amazing and I'm hoping this is comparable. This will be my 3rd Nexus and my current one is my 4th Motorola. Neither have done me wrong so far. I wish it had a wireless charger but I guess turbo charging is making that obsolete and I have to accept it. Ultimately I said screw it and ordered one. But I used the amex just in case lol.
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Big Cam said:
The price is only about $100 more given you keep storage options about the same.
The only downside I see to the Nexus 6P is no SD slot and it costs more. I originally wanted the Moto X since it was affordable, has SD storage and was 5.7inches. The Nexus seems to be a better option with the only downside being no SD storage and it's a bit more expensive, although in my opinion AMOLED is a better screen choice than LCD so the Nexus has that going for it too, and a bigger battery....... Here is what I "think" I know after watching the event.
Nexus 6P
Pros:
USB-C
Larger battery 3450mah vs 3000 mah on the X
Faster software updates
Marshmallow preinstalled
AMOLED screen
Cons:
A little more expensive
no SD card slot.
Moto X Pure(Style)
Pros:
Cheaper
SD Card Slot
Cons:
LCD screen as opposed to AMOLED
Smaller battery 3000mah vs 3450mah
micro USB vs USB-C
Is anyone else struggling with this?
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You have to see what type of amoled they put on this. Nexus 6 had amoled but it was crappy amoled.
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ambervals6 said:
You have to see what type of amoled they put on this. Nexus 6 had amoled but it was crappy amoled.
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That's a good point for sure, I just generally feel like most AMOLED's now a days are brighter and crisper than an LCD, plus they are easier on the battery.
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That's a good point for sure, I just generally feel like most AMOLED's now a days are brighter and crisper than an LCD, plus they are easier on the battery.
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From my experience, only amoleds used on samsung flagships are the best. When other manufacturers use amoled, samsung never gives them the top of the line amoled, that's why I believe is best for other manufacturers to go with lcd. Hopefully this amoled is power efficient and has good colors/angels etc.
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I think the nexus 5x would be a better comparison.
Big con for the Moto X Pure(Style), for me is they do not sell it in Canada.
I was on the fence between Moto X Pure, iPhone 6s Plus and Nexus 6p.
Moto X Pure lacks accessories. Almost nothing projected from major case manufacturers.
iPhone 6s Plus on IOS9 has no jailbreak, which means no tethering for me since I have Verizon Unlimited.
Nexus 6p like the iPhone gets dinged for no removable storage, but offer 128GB, which I can live with.
I bought a graphite Nexus 6p.
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I think the nexus 5x would be a better comparison.
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Well, I chose these 2 phones since they are the same size screen and very close specs , the 5x is lower in almost every category, so that's not a good comparison in my .
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Well, I chose these 2 phones since they are the same size screen and very close specs , the 5x is lower in almost every category, so that's not a good comparison in my .
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Care to enlighten me? I don't see how it is "lower" in almost "every category".
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Care to enlighten me? I don't see how it is "lower" in almost "every category".
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Less ram
Smaller screen size
Smaller battery
Less in available storages sizes
Smaller screen resolution
The 6P and moto x are more alike than the moto x and 5x.
No fingerprint scanner on the motox right?
I already own a 64gb, black leather, red accented Moto X Pure, so I'm now debating on selling it and buying the Nexus 6P. Biggest reason why, development on XDA. I'm worried the 6p will over shadow the MXP and fewer developers will put time into releasing roms/mods for the MXP.
I'd love to hear feedback from those that do create roms and extra features for devices. I have no other complaints for the MXP, just fear of its support dying very early.
I had the MXP, but returned it a few days ago. I just wasn't impressed. I'm glad I did, now that I ordered a graphite Nexus 6P.
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NoFear1183 said:
I already own a 64gb, black leather, red accented Moto X Pure, so I'm now debating on selling it and buying the Nexus 6P. Biggest reason why, development on XDA. I'm worried the 6p will over shadow the MXP and fewer developers will put time into releasing roms/mods for the MXP.
I'd love to hear feedback from those that do create roms and extra features for devices. I have no other complaints for the MXP, just fear of its support dying very early.
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What do you refer to when you say development? Have you seen nexus 6 forums? Nothing special going on there.
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What do you refer to when you say development? Have you seen nexus 6 forums? Nothing special going on there.
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Nexus 6P. Not last year's nexus.
Nothing special there yet, phone was just announced. The phone already has toolkit though.
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Nexus 6P. Not last year's nexus.
Nothing special there yet, phone was just announced. The phone already has toolkit though.
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I am saying there is lots of hype for development on nexus devices, but since nexus 4, there hasn't been much going on. The days when Paranoid Android team was developing and Moles was with them used to be great. From what I recall a few other teams developed last year, but they didn't bring nothing new.
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My pure is going back to Motorola. Plenty of complaints to read on their forums. OPO until my big P comes in.
I like the XPE but in returning mine as well. The only minus to the 6P is the sd slot and some of the moto features but I gain amoled (which is important to me coming from a note 3), bigger battery, fingerprint scanner and notification led! Also price wise isn't much difference when configured similarly. My XPE with 32gb and wood back was $503 shipped. The 64gb 6P was $583, what I get for the price difference is worth it in my book.
The XPE is a good phone but it's just not the phone for me. As someone else said, the development for the 6p will be huge in comparison to the Motorola. Spigen isn't making any cases for the XPE and neither are many accessory makers. I think the 6P will get all the love I'd hoped the Motorola would get so back it goes!
Avoid Moto, their customer service sucks, it's awful experience dealing with them..
I'm torn right now. I want a bigger battery and the camera on the 6P seems better. But I really like Moto Display and Moto assist.
Mine is going back.
Development is going to be far superior on the Nexus. This is huge just by itself.
Amoled screen
Finger print is nice with lastpass and bank apps
Only $50 more with the play credit
Fast updates which with Leno gutting Moto no telling what will come
I'm not happy with the performance or the battery life on the Pure
Nexus has a larger battery and is tweaked for M
Camera is reported to be better on the Nexus than the pure
Better performance on the GPU and heat issues are a non factor
https://www.androidpit.com/snapdragon-810-vs-808-is-8-cores-really-better-than-6
So for $50 why exactly am I going to settle for the Pure? I won't.
I think if the Pure had come out a few months ago things might be a little different. They waited too long and the Nexus is just a better device. Add to that the shipping issues and pushing people's 14 days into the nexus announcement and well you get what you get. I'm glad mine took so long to ship now. I'm not getting stuck holding this turkey when everyone in 3 months is still asking where their Roms and updates are.
Going back, either getting a Nexus 6 64GB for $340 plus tax and saving $155 (32gb, wood back, sd card...all three total $495 plus tax) or spending an extra $5 for a 32 GB Nexus 6P
also lucked out that my phone shipped on the 15th so today is day 14
That's what she said.
I am struggling to see how to justify the extra $100 dollars for the 6p when the xpe beats it in several different areas. And people really shouldn't talk crap about the camera on the 6p because its also speculative at this point. But we already know the camera on the xpe is getting stellar reviews.
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Only why I'm even considering the nexus 6P is because of the amoled and battery size. Other than dont care for the other features including the fingerprint. Definitely like the looks of the moto x better. Still deciding. Hmmm
Keeping my Mxp. That phone is ugly with the camera hump. I don't really care about the fingerprint scanner. Camera on my Mxp is good enough for my needs. The form factor on the Mxp is great, it is the perfect size. The Nexus 6P looks as big as the Nexus 6. Coming from a Nexus 6, I don't want a form factor like that anymore. With the sd card slot, I haven't streamed any media or music on the Mxp and that saves on a lot of data. Battery life is ok, but with the quick charger it is a non-issue.
Anybody know how much the uk 6p will retail for? I'm going to return mine when it eventually arrives
Just found out that CA residents have up to 30 days for return! Not that I want to... I like the look and my design of the MXPE, but the battery is disappointing somehow... still deciding.
cas8180 said:
I am struggling to see how to justify the extra $100 dollars for the 6p when the xpe beats it in several different areas. And people really shouldn't talk crap about the camera on the 6p because its also speculative at this point. But we already know the camera on the xpe is getting stellar reviews.
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The camera for the 6p has been reviewed by DXOmark.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles
It comes in #2 behind the S6 Edge.
Beats all others including the style.
Thursday will be 2 weeks since my Moto was delivered, I am definitely keeping it. For my usage this, phone is perfect.
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Keeping mine as well since I had a best buy gift card to purchase this device.
If the nexus 6P ends up being sold at best buy then my decision changes again lol.
I was considering the pure but I see there is no roms yet. Seems a bit behind compared to the new moto g. The 6p will probably be my next device IF I can finance it through T-Mobile.
my 30 day return period is up like Oct 25 from Amazon... and I'm hearing the nexus phones aren't even shipping until November? yeah, i think I'll hang on to this bad boy for a bit, and wait to read reviews on the 6p with that steamy hot 810 in it, and who knows about huwai build quality or who's screen they use... if it's not samsung amoled, or its like previous gen samsung amoled like Motorola used to get, then no thanks, I'd rather have this LCD.
if i end up wanting it, I'll just get it and either sell the moto or hang on to it who knows.
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Already pre-ordered 6P. Some of Moto's features that set the XPE apart are now coming to both Nexuses (quick camera access, wake up when picking it up). I can't even get 3 hours SOT with the XPE. :-/ I'm also thinking of N and O releases. My X1 just got 5.1. And the nexus will have ROM support long after that. Sorry Moto, I'm outta here.
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I'll be keeping my Pure. I had a huawei phone once. I'll never have another. The 5x is just lack luster compared to the Pure.
Aridon said:
Mine is going back.
Development is going to be far superior on the Nexus. This is huge just by itself.
Amoled screen
Finger print is nice with lastpass and bank apps
Only $50 more with the play credit
Fast updates which with Leno gutting Moto no telling what will come
I'm not happy with the performance or the battery life on the Pure
Nexus has a larger battery and is tweaked for M
Camera is reported to be better on the Nexus than the pure
Better performance on the GPU and heat issues are a non factor
https://www.androidpit.com/snapdragon-810-vs-808-is-8-cores-really-better-than-6
So for $50 why exactly am I going to settle for the Pure? I won't.
I think if the Pure had come out a few months ago things might be a little different. They waited too long and the Nexus is just a better device. Add to that the shipping issues and pushing people's 14 days into the nexus announcement and well you get what you get. I'm glad mine took so long to ship now. I'm not getting stuck holding this turkey when everyone in 3 months is still asking where their Roms and updates are.
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Don't forgot no sd card slot
I don't trust the Huawei brand, and since the NX5 is limited to 32gb, I'm keeping the MXP. Sure, it won't have the development that nexus devices do, but I'm confident we'll see enough to keep me happy.
I'm keeping my Moto X, looks better, does everything I want, cheaper... If I change my mind down the road we will see but they packed almsot the same stuff in a larger form factor. Who knows how it will preform either. Also if you watch the 5X hands on from android athority it sure looked like it was having mis touch issues like the G4 has... I really hope it was because he missed the screen looking through his camera cuz that is what led me to ditch the G4 and if it moved to the nexus device... watch out! At least patches will be quicker.
6P:
Pros over the X:
-Finger print reader
-USB Type C
-All metal design
-Faster
-maybe a better camera (wait for reviews)
-Quick updates from google for years to come
-Better development
-Battery is bigger and already has android M
-AMOLED (bright, battery saving
Cons:
-Larger
-huge bezels
-All metal design (yes I added it also as a con because it could get very hot and get scratches/dings easy)
-Weird black bump thing
-Unproven manufacturer
-Cost a bit more (not too bad)
-AMOLED (BURN INNNNNNNSSSSSSSS)
-No wireless charging
Moto X:
Pros:
-Cheaper
-More customization from Moto maker
-Possible faster charger
-LCD (yes I like LCD over AMOBURNIN )
-Gestures to launch camera and flashlight already have me hooked
-Simmer bezels
-Already in my hand no waiting
-Proven front facing speakers that work well
-some water proofing
Cons:
-No wireless charging
-No fingerprint reader
-LCD has horrible blacks, even compared to the G4 :-/
That's all I have. I would like to reserve full judgement until I see this thing in real life and maybe I will jump, but for now I'm happy
Now that I have my pure in I can say 100% it's going back. My opo is better and I'd keep it over the pure. I can't get over how bad battery life is using chrome or maps. The build quality also feels cheap and I see lots of micro lag that I didn't see as much even in the opo. I'm very disappointed in the pure.
Going back to Motorola and waiting on the nexus p.
I recently purchased a Moto X Pure, and within 4 days knew I made the wrong decision. I'll list below the reasons I returned the Moto X Pure and why I'm buying the nexus 5x.
Why I'm return the Pure Garbage™:
•Lcd Lights- Distorts screen at night. Very obvious placement.
•Battery Life-poor. Gets too hot to use while charging (my next point)
•Heat- gets VERY hot with normal usage. Can't use while charging.
•Camera- 21mp? I get the same quality with my daughter's Nintendo DS..
•Weight- uncomfortably heavy + sweaty hand from heat + Rubber Back = disaster waiting to happen
•THICK..Call it a BBC. (Big Bulky Cellphone! Get your mind or the gutter!!)
Why I chose the Nexus 5x:
•Camera - 9mp less but 100x better. Laser autofocus.
•Screen - Both LCD, but after countless viewing reviews, the lights aren't eyesores.
•Fingerprint- so convenient!!
•Accessories- Nexus has a much larger following. Last 3 Motorola's were hard to find cases for.
•Updates- for obvious reasons
•BOOTLOADER- IMPORTANT!! If you had plans on getting to the Moto X Pure and unlocking it, you're sacrificing your warranty to do so. Google allows you to unlock your phone and keep your warranty.
What I lost out on in the switch:
- Removable memory - 32g is plenty. I have 128gb card in my G3 that doesn't get used
- 5.7 inch display - Too damn big anyways. The LG G3's 5.5" is pushing my upper limit as far as screens go. Learned on the Moto that 5.7" is a two hand phone, unless you have ogre hands.
Did anyone else choose between devices and get this one? If so what device and why?
Comments/debates welcomed!
That was one of the phones I was looking at as an upgrade from my first gen Moto X. The big factors for me were an unlockable bootloader, vanilla android, regular updates, and the ability to use any carrier. I was hoping for a 5" phone at the most, but 5.2" is okay so far. I don't think I could get used to a 5.7".
I wasn't expecting to care about the fingerprint sensor, but now that I have it, I love it! Was concerned about battery life, but no problem at all getting through the day so far.
The active display (whatever they call it) stinks on this compared to the X. Not a big deal, though, as I have a Pebble, and it's so quick to unlock.
I'm a huge fan of moto, having had the last two moto Xs. I could deal with the garbage cameras because it was nearly pure Google, the size was manageable, customization is boss, and it felt like a quality phone that didn't need a case to be sturdy as hell. The size of the nexus 6 and 6p is what deterred me from them. The 5x is a nice phone with some awesome features and decent battery life but the performance on my 2014 was better (subjectively) and I feel like I'm holding a phone that will break if it falls off the table. I've never felt the need to put a case on my motos unless I was going to the bar or camping, but this guy might need one 24/7
Came from a 2014 X PE as well. I would still be using it if it weren't for FI network. It's a shame that it doesn't work on it.
As far as the camera, the X got a bad rap. I had that thing taking some good shots. Never a complaint from me.
The display blows the Nexus 5x out of the water. So vibrant, punchy and draws your attention. So far everyone that's checked out my 5x immediately commented on how the display was grey, washed out compared to the moto X.
Moto X seemed faster at nearly every task compared to the 5x. This thing stutters all over the place. Moto has some really awesome features that once you use and lose, you miss...a LOT. attentive display, active notifications, chop flashlight, quiet time...moto really nailed it on the head.
Alas, I'll be keeping it. I went back to Nexus for FI, the battery is slightly better than the moto X which randomly shut off with anywhere from 8-20% still supposedly left.
Still love Nexus devices though, its a fun serviceable device.
OP is so incredibly biased in not even going to counter it. Mxpe is a wonderful device.
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The camera on moto still sucks big time in moderate to low light.. That was a bummer for m.. Otherwise it's a gr8 phone
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Nexus 5x can be used on any us cellphone carriers include project fi
I sat on the edge about the pure for a while. A few big things just glared at me.
First, The physical appearance of the pure just didn't match the 5x. It looked chunky and the front flash was just gross.
Second, although the pure will probably get updates fine, the 5x will undeniably be the leader of the curve.
Thank you for making me more comfortable in my decision, the SD card reader was hard to give up for those easy onsite backups and space for a mini rom archive, but I think I can handle the 32GB restriction, especially since T-Mobile allows free unlimited lte play music now.
I used solely Nexus devices from June 2012-March 2015. When I shattered the screen on my N5 I chose a Moto X 2014 Pure due to the size of N6. I actually ended up really liking the Moto, and probably would have went with the 2015 Pure if it hadn't grown to 5.7. As is I went N5X simply due to size. I do miss a couple features of the Moto, but overall am happy with the Nexus. Fingerprint sensor ended up being very convenient, I originally didn't care, but now don't want to give that single feature up.
And I really hate delays in updates, after using Nexus for so long, it was really frustrating waiting for my year newer Moto to update weeks after my original N5 had already received the update with its shattered screen and all.
I was selecting between the MXPE and the 5X, and chose the 5X because:
No Motomaker in Canada (would've purchased from the US though, knew exactly what colours/options I wanted )
MXPE not available in Canada (would've purchased from the US though)
It's too big, and heavy - as is the 6P (MotoX 2013 was the perfect size, MotoX 2014 was reasonable)
Due to their recent behaviour, I no longer trust Motorola to release timely OS updates (hopefully Motorola proves these fears to be false)
Unlocking MXPE bootloader voids warranty
No device can match the kind of support (both official and third-party) that a Nexus device will receive
I really wanted to get the MotoX this year, but the 5X was the better choice for me, by far. I love the feel and industrial design of the 5X (the top and bottom bezels are definitely larger than they ought to be though), I'm getting great battery life, the camera is excellent & fast, and I know I'll be able to get updates from Google for at least two years, and quite possibly beyond.
I've got a four year old Galaxy Nexus flying on Lollipop (with stable Marshmallow on the way!) thanks to the development community. Specifically Ziyan in this case. Not that I plan on using the 5X four years from now.
Coming from MX 2014 Pure (Germany):
- hated delayed Lollipop update (we got it 2 months after the USA)
- battery was subpar
- camera was **** especially in low light conditions
+ cool moto features but almost all of them are now incorporated into M
+ size was perfect
+ moto maker
The smoothness of 5X is much better than on MX 2014 PE. Battery is holding much longer.
I was considering MX2015 but:
- no fingerprint scanner (motorola got screwed in 2014 by apple buying that fingerprint company but for the 2015 models there is no excuse not to have it!)
- too big
- unlocking voids warranty (at least in 2014 model I could flash custom rom and here I don't want to wait for the "official" M update because it will most probably come much later)
I was considering a Motorola phone and even recommended the Moto G to people who asked, but with the acquisition by Lenovo and the abandonment of the Moto E after promising updates, I can no longer consider or recommend Motorola phones. I am pretty sure it will only get worse as time goes on and Motorola becomes even less Google and more Lenovo. I heard they were laying tons of people off.
Plus being able to unlock and relock the bootloader on the Nexus 5X and still having warranty pushed me over the edge. Also guaranteed updates for two years, and a great developer scene is likely.
Moto x is a phablet just like the nexus 6. I didn't want a phablet so I didn't consider the moto x.
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rydare said:
I was considering a Motorola phone and even recommended the Moto G to people who asked, but with the acquisition by Lenovo and the abandonment of the Moto E after promising updates, I can no longer consider or recommend Motorola phones. I am pretty sure it will only get worse as time goes on and Motorola becomes even less Google and more Lenovo. I heard they were laying tons of people off.
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Agree 100%. My last two phones were Motos, and they would have been my first choice for a new one, but I was suspicious after the sale to Lenovo and the recent debacle around their updates sealed the deal for me. To my knowledge Moto still has not articulated a firm policy regarding software updates and security patches going forward (it's possible I missed something, though, since I stopped paying attention once I pre-ordered the 5X).
The Moto E situation was particularly egregious. I know that if you read the fine print they probably complied with the letter of their advertising but the fact is that they tried to sell people on the idea of being the OEM to go to for updates and they completely violated the spirit (perhaps not the letter) of that advertising by providing only one incremental update and then dropping it.
Moto X Style definitely has a better screen than the 5X, also the video was a lot more stabilized than the 5X. Moto X Style has 2 front facing, loud, clear speaker, where the 5X only has one
robstunner said:
OP is so incredibly biased in not even going to counter it. Mxpe is a wonderful device.
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How am I biased when I bought the Motorola first?
The Motorola had it goods, but the bad outweighed it.
I was sooo close to ordering the MXPE. I literally had my customized, Moto Maker'd device in the cart ready to check out when i started looking more into the 5x. Which from spec release until about 2 weeks ago I'd written off as my next device.
Then I spent some time researching and reading and researching, finally deciding on the 5x. Couldn't be happier. I've never had the MXP in my hands, but I'm in love with my Nexus, and the eventual development will be the cherry on top.
The size and weight of this thing is near perfect. The screen and speaker and sound on earbuds are nowhere near as bad as some may have made it seem.
I literally have 3 gripes about this phone. One major and 2 minor that aren't that big of a deal and I am already over.
1. No SD card. Pretty obvious.
2. 3.5mm jack is on the bottom. No big deal.
3. Bezels take up too much screen space, especially on the sides.
Honestly 2 and 3 never crossed my mind as a deal breaker. And no SD card I can live with, just need to steam my music instead of store it.
Sorry for the long rant, I just wanted to share I was on the fence between these two phones and couldn't be happier that I chose the Nexus.
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The biggest reason is phone size. I wasn't interested in a large phone.
A second reason is that I don't really trust Moto anymore after my experience with a carrier Moto X 2014. Their builds were buggy and their update frequency and availability tapers off quickly over time.
axemred said:
The biggest reason is phone size. I wasn't interested in a large phone.
A second reason is that I don't really trust Moto anymore after my experience with a carrier Moto X 2014. Their builds were buggy and their update frequency and availability tapers off quickly over time.
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This. Plus the fingerprint scanner.
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Nexus device provides pure android experience.
The Pure is an awesome phone. It has been my favorite and could be perfect with a bit better battery life.
Time marches on and I can't say I am enthused with the new Moto line coming out. Also not sure about Lenovo.
It just doesn't feel right that Moto is no longer American.
So what are you folks planning on going to next?
I would love a stripped down Sony or HTC. Not keen on Samsung. Apple, only if they offer a model with stock Android[emoji13].
Thoughts?
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Samsung. Maybe de 7 Edge, great specs and battery life, Lately Samsung improves a lot system updates ( and i will buy unlocked)
Stock Android is great, but sometimes lack from cool features like theming, gestures etc. HTC m10 is option, but i dont know.
Other options are OnePlus 3 and the AXON.
Most probably a Nexus device.
Im waiting for a new nexus. 1+3 is good but not kicking my ass do a sold them after two Weeks and back to moto
halo moto \m/
Likely the smaller of the two new Nexus devices, provided the battery life/build material is comparable to the larger alternative. This also hinges on whether or not it'll work on all carriers, which I assume it will.
I have my eye on the Axon 7 but I been reading there is alot of bugs with it so far.... I almost pulled the trigger on a nexus 6p .
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Definitely a Nexus. Probably in a year or two, I'm pretty good with my phone. Now if Lenovo doesn't upgrade this sucker to Android N then I might ditch it and switch early to the HTC-made Nexus Sailfish. But, I can't see the future so, who knows.
I'm thinking Nexus but I plan to stick with the Pure for at least another year or so. I might even go for another Moto phone. My main requirements will be that it has to be unlocked and no bloat (I actually like the few bashed on features the MXPE has). At the moment the Nexus and Moto lines meet this requirement. Only time will tell.
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I have my eye on the Axon 7 but I been reading there is alot of bugs with it so far.... I almost pulled the trigger on a nexus 6p .
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I also had an interest in the Axon 7 but as you say there are reports of bugs. I read one owner had issues with his Axon using 19% idle over night. Doesn't work with android pay either at the moment. Thankfully supplies are tight so no temptation to buy one in UK.
I have been considering a Samsung gs7 edge now price has eased. Just can't pluck up the courage to buy one. The glass back puts me off. Can't get enthusiastic about the new Moto Z phones and don't currently appeal. The new nexus phones when they are released may be worth consideration but I've never had any luck with HTC phones in the past.
So I'm stuck with the X Style which is no great hardship! Battery generally lasts the day, the display is nice and bright when required, the speakers are very good and it just works day in day out. The one thing I do wish though is that it was 5.2" as it's just a little cumbersome to use one handed. But the big display is good for Web browsing and vids.
So I'll either stick with the X STYLE or at some point get a Samsung GS 7 Edge, but will see what the new Nexus phones are like too when released.
I'll probably pick up a 6p once the new Nexuses are out and people start flooding Swappa.
Le Max 2, Axon 7, 1+3 or a Nexus device (either the 6P or 2016 5" if it has a 821 and is under 400)
From the pick at the moment probably the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe, but not till I see how it fares in real reviews.
The new moto phones are a big step back from the pure for me.
maybe the moto z more likely the note 7 if it gets root pretty quick.
my pure seems to be developing issues as it nears the warranty date actually i think it just past that on the 18th of july and i have been having issues now for about a week...
And i have a used note 3 that still works great... has better battery life than the pure too...
New smaller Nexus. I want faster updates and more ROMs to choose from.
I honestly have no idea. I'm not enthusiastic about any of the new phones. Seems almost every manufacturer is reverting from a 5.7" screen to 5.5" which is a deal breaker for me. Also need root and I'm on Verizon which cuts my current, and future options down to just my current x pure, or a semi-rooted S7.
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I also had an interest in the Axon 7 but as you say there are reports of bugs. I read one owner had issues with his Axon using 19% idle over night. Doesn't work with android pay either at the moment. Thankfully supplies are tight so no temptation to buy one in UK.
I have been considering a Samsung gs7 edge now price has eased. Just can't pluck up the courage to buy one. The glass back puts me off. Can't get enthusiastic about the new Moto Z phones and don't currently appeal. The new nexus phones when they are released may be worth consideration but I've never had any luck with HTC phones in the past.
So I'm stuck with the X Style which is no great hardship! Battery generally lasts the day, the display is nice and bright when required, the speakers are very good and it just works day in day out. The one thing I do wish though is that it was 5.2" as it's just a little cumbersome to use one handed. But the big display is good for Web browsing and vids.
So I'll either stick with the X STYLE or at some point get a Samsung GS 7 Edge, but will see what the new Nexus phones are like too when released.
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I am in the same boat brother lol, I have my Moto X pure for now ... the Edge body im not a fan but the camera is what i love on it. Prices are almost at 500 bucks here in usa for them so i might wait a bit more.
Honestly... I might go back to my Moto G 2015, this phone is great except the battery life. Going from 5+ hours of SOT per day to barely 3.5 is tough. Maybe a G4 or even wait for the next Nexus devices.
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ill probably wait till 2017 nexus releases