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Yet Another Battery Tip

Well... I completely stopped charging my phone with the wall charger and I am now just using either my car charger or USB and i've noticed my phone over the last two days has probably doubled in being able to hold a charge. Today I made approximately 2 or 3 30 minute - 1 hour calls, used the internet approximately 20 times for about 5 minutes each time and used SNESnoid for approximately 1 hour straight and my battery was at 40% after a 10 hour work day, not too shabby. Not to mention I also don't get that annoying 10% drop within 10 minutes of unplugging the phone anymore
I've seen a ton of other battery tip's but I've yet to see any actually say stop using a wall charger all together. Here's to hoping this helps someone

Lol thanks for the tip. I highly doubt this is anymore then a placebo but good luck to whoever tries it. Not calling you OP I am just finding it hard to believe.
Furthermore, have you tried reseting your battery stats. I mean the initial 100-90 percent drop you are calling to quick sounds like its the fault of bad battery stats. If you need a link to how to reset your battery PM me only because I might not check back to this post lol.

DirtyShroomz said:
Well... I completely stopped charging my phone with the wall charger and I am now just using either my car charger or USB and i've noticed my phone over the last two days has probably doubled in being able to hold a charge. Today I made approximately 2 or 3 30 minute - 1 hour calls, used the internet approximately 20 times for about 5 minutes each time and used SNESnoid for approximately 1 hour straight and my battery was at 40% after a 10 hour work day, not too shabby. Not to mention I also don't get that annoying 10% drop within 10 minutes of unplugging the phone anymore
I've seen a ton of other battery tip's but I've yet to see any actually say stop using a wall charger all together. Here's to hoping this helps someone
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Hmmm... I don't think that USB/Wall would actually make a overall difference in battery life but it could be that it doesn't "idle the charging" when you hit close to a full charge. So you're probably just getting the extra 5-10% that you mentioned.

twilk73 said:
Lol thanks for the tip. I highly doubt this is anymore then a placebo but good luck to whoever tries it. Not calling you OP I am just finding it hard to believe.
Furthermore, have you tried reseting your battery stats. I mean the initial 100-90 percent drop you are calling to quick sounds like its the fault of bad battery stats. If you need a link to how to reset your battery PM me only because I might not check back to this post lol.
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Ehh... I don't make BS threads, never have and those that know me from the Hero forums can vouch. Just posting my findings

Award Tour said:
Hmmm... I don't think that USB/Wall would actually make a overall difference in battery life but it could be that it doesn't "idle the charging" when you hit close to a full charge. So you're probably just getting the extra 5-10% that you mentioned.
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I know for a fact im getting the initial 10% but I looked at my battery today at 12:40 tonight before leaving work thinking "ahh crap I haven't charged it it's got to be at, at least 5-15% and nope, it was exactly 39%, I was amazed. Talked to a girl for about 40 minutes on my drive home, talked to another friend for 5 and battery dropped to 35%

I've noticed this as well. Days that I've only used my moto car charger, the battery (even the cheap ebay ones) seem to hold the charge better, which I thought was strange, because you would think it would be a worse -maybe equal- change.

Charges more slowly and fills up more?

oOflyeyesOo said:
Charges more slowly and fills up more?
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That's my theory

This is the case with most batteries, and I thought it was common knowledge with Li-ion. The lower the current you charge with, the better the charge.
Using the higher amperage wall charger lets you hit the voltage peak quicker but, the topping charge will take longer. A lot of car chargers are just as high amperage as wall chargers.
Other things you can do to try maintain the capacity of the battery over the course of its life:
-NEVER let it get hot (whether from heavy usage or keeping it in a hot car or the sun)
-never deep cycle (totally kill the battery)
-try to keep it between 40 - 60% charge for most of its life (Li-ion batteries do not like being at full charge or no charge)
Doing any of these things once will not destroy the battery, but by the 500th charge cycle, you can bet your ass it will.
http://batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm

DirtyShroomz said:
2 or 3 30 minute - 1 hour calls
internet 20 times
SNESnoid
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work day
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Sounds like my kind of job! Seriously, I use USB (through a laptop) and car chargers almost exclusively and I have no real complaints about battery life. And by that I mean it gets me through the day, which is all I've come to expect from phones for the past few years. But I did happen to use a wall charger last night, and I have JuicePlotter active, so I did some checking.
Comparing my last overnight charge using my laptop's USB to last night's charge through a wall adapter, I found that the charging was actually faster through the laptop. I see that the charge tends to drop off as it approaches 100%, so I took pairs of points from uniform sections of each plot for my comparison:
Laptop USB:
44% to 82% in 41 minutes = 0.927% / min
Wall:
63% to 91% in 37 minutes = 0.757% / min

kzibart said:
Sounds like my kind of job! Seriously, I use USB (through a laptop) and car chargers almost exclusively and I have no real complaints about battery life. And by that I mean it gets me through the day, which is all I've come to expect from phones for the past few years. But I did happen to use a wall charger last night, and I have JuicePlotter active, so I did some checking.
Comparing my last overnight charge using my laptop's USB to last night's charge through a wall adapter, I found that the charging was actually faster through the laptop. I see that the charge tends to drop off as it approaches 100%, so I took pairs of points from uniform sections of each plot for my comparison:
Laptop USB:
44% to 82% in 41 minutes = 0.927% / min
Wall:
63% to 91% in 37 minutes = 0.757% / min
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Hah, yeah my job is pretty amazing sometimes but I have def quit using the wall charger (unless I absolutely have nothing else around)
As far as for droiddev... this is my first phone where charging it from different devices gives me different results. I don't see where it would be common sense, Li-ion batteries are not supposed to not have these memory leak/hold issues like past batteries. A charge is a charge to li-ion batteries, but not in this case.

DirtyShroomz said:
As far as for droiddev... this is my first phone where charging it from different devices gives me different results. I don't see where it would be common sense, Li-ion batteries are not supposed to not have these memory leak/hold issues like past batteries. A charge is a charge to li-ion batteries, but not in this case.
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Not sure what you mean, but you will get the most life out of your battery by charging it short spurts at a time over USB. Read the article I linked to and you will see what I mean, but you can get the best charge into your battery by slowly ramping up in steps with a low current charger.

How long does it take your Nexus to fully charge?

Just wondering, how long does it take you guys to fully charge (From anything below 20% to 100%) your nexus 7? Because I've seen a few posts about battery related problems, and personally I think mine chargers slower than it should.
Also, when I use a wire to extend the charger, it's as if it wont charge, for it to fully charge i'd have to leave it on for hours without use, Since they're aren't any plugs where I'd usually sit to use it, I need to move somewhere else cause the wire is quite small.
For example, I've had it on charge since 2PM today, when I plugged it in it was at 14% battery, now (4:20 PM) it's at 63%. This has been without use, just sitting there charging. Plugged in via the charger and wire that come with it, to an extension with 3 other plugs in it.

I received my N7 with about 40% charge and it seemed like it took a really long time on that first full charge. It has been better since. I have heard if you are not using the original cable for the N7, it will dramatically increase the time it takes to charge and it won't show the charging icon. The supplied cable is USB 3 and your other cables are most likely USB 2. You might want to buy a 6 foot or 2 meter USB 3 cable for convenience. Also, use the original 2 amp charger it came with.

Groid said:
I received my N7 with about 40% charge and it seemed like it took a really long time on that first full charge. It has been better since. I have heard if you are not using the original cable for the N7, it will dramatically increase the time it takes to charge and it won't show the charging icon. The supplied cable is USB 3 and your other cables are most likely USB 2. You might want to buy a 6 foot or 2 meter USB 3 cable for convenience. Also, use the original 2 amp charger it came with.
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Well, that explains why the extender doesn't work, but I haven't been using that to charge it since I noticed it slowed it down allot. I've only been using the stuff it comes with ever since I noticed that. Still VERY slow though, it's only just reached 96% since starting charging it at 2am. so it's taken 5 hours to get from 14% to 96%, pretty sure this isn't right.

I've collected some data on N7 charging and cables issues here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29983624
My completely drained N7 (<1%) takes approximately 3 hours and 49 minutes to completely charge it (N7 powered off during charging).

janedoesmith said:
I've collected some data on N7 charging and cables issues here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29983624
My completely drained N7 (<1%) takes approximately 3 hours and 49 minutes to completely charge it (N7 powered off during charging).
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Which charger do you use?
And good to know it isn't a problem with my nexus I suppose.

Dazzuh said:
Which charger do you use?
And good to know it isn't a problem with my nexus I suppose.
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OEM charger and OEM cable.

Nexus 10 taking more than a day to charge!!

Like the title says, my dad just bought a Nexus 10 and when he was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than an hour to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable. Is it a defective unit? I know about the Pogo charger, but I'm sure he'd rather not spend $25 on it just to find out it doesn't work.
Any suggestions or ways to fix this?
Thanks.
edit: To make things even sound worse, it only charged 2% in 1 hour and 30 minutes.

|| Acer || said:
Like the title says, my dad just bought a Nexus 10 and when he was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than an hour to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable. Is it a defective unit? I know about the Pogo charger, but I'm sure he'd rather not spend $25 on it just to find out it doesn't work.
Any suggestions or ways to fix this?
Thanks.
edit: To make things even sound worse, it only charged 2% in 1 hour and 30 minutes.
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All I know is that on mine takes about 9 hours to charge with the original charger. The first time I've charged it from 16% with my Galaxy SIII cable, and it took over 14 hours.

That does seem long. I have the pogo charger and it does charge faster.
Before you buy the pogo, are you using the chargers that came with the N10? When I charge my N10 from a laptop/PC, it does charge slowly. So make sure you're charging with the correct voltage/amps.
Good luck!

I'm having a similar issue since the OTA update to 4.4.2.
I'll try changing USB cables, but I'm not optimistic. I'm tempted to try a factory reset if a different cord doesn't work.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk

Do you use the tablet while charging?
Is NFC enabled?
What setting is the GPS on; device only?
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|| Acer || said:
Like the title says, my dad just bought a Nexus 10 and when he was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than an hour to charge to 50%.
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With Wifi on, NFC off, Location set to device only, bluetooth off, screen off, using my Pogo cable I get about 22% charge per hour so from 0% to 85% is 4 hours. Whilst on Pogo if I turn brightness to full and sound full then charge is held roughly flat. I moved to Pogo from the supplied cable as when watching stuff even when connected it was discharging, so now I'm never really out of power unless I stay unplugged a long time (about 6 hours unplugged max on low brightness)

anthony2424 said:
Do you use the tablet while charging?
Is NFC enabled?
What setting is the GPS on; device only?
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This situation happens when the tablet isn't even on, so certain settings being enabled are not the issue.
And for more info, he is using the charger that came with the tablet, so we've just decided that we'll just send it back and get a new one because the battery is obviously defective.

|| Acer || said:
This situation happens when the tablet isn't even on, so certain settings being enabled are not the issue.
And for more info, he is using the charger that came with the tablet, so we've just decided that we'll just send it back and get a new one because the battery is obviously defective.
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Have you tried a different cable/charger? AN hour to charge from 20% to 50%? Sounds about right to me. I always switch mine off when charging, I can live without when it' off. :good:

yets said:
Have you tried a different cable/charger? AN hour to charge from 20% to 50%? Sounds about right to me. I always switch mine off when charging, I can live without when it' off. :good:
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I think clearly a human error in the word chosen explains it.
Instead of "...was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than an hour to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable."
it would make more sense if written "....was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than a day to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable. "
.... then the later post of its a dud and its been replaced makes sense....

nigelhealy said:
I think clearly a human error in the word chosen explains it.
Instead of "...was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than an hour to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable."
it would make more sense if written "....was charging it from 20%, it's taken more than a day to charge to 50%. With that logic, the battery is only charging 30% a day, which means it would take 3-4 days from 0%-100%, and that simply is unacceptable. "
.... then the later post of its a dud and its been replaced makes sense....
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Ahh, I see. Good call in getting it replaced. I hope you have a better experience.

here are a few points
1) the AC USB come with N10 charge up to 2A.
2) the mini USB limit to about 1A
3) if you use other mini charger, that 1A is even smaller.
4) N10 battery is HUGE comparing to all tablet out there. It will take a long time to charge
Solution: get the pogo charging cable that cost $25 (very expensive and can only use for charging), that will fully charge 2A to your tablet which should reduce the time to less than 4hrs given no other power hog apps running at the same time. It will charge slower if that power hog app running too. You can tell by how warm/hot your tablet gets when running such app.
btw, go look at the disassemble of the N10. That battle makeup most of the tablet. LOL

workerantDroid said:
here are a few points
1) the AC USB come with N10 charge up to 2A.
2) the mini USB limit to about 1A
3) if you use other mini charger, that 1A is even smaller.
4) N10 battery is HUGE comparing to all tablet out there. It will take a long time to charge
Solution: get the pogo charging cable that cost $25 (very expensive and can only use for charging), that will fully charge 2A to your tablet which should reduce the time to less than 4hrs given no other power hog apps running at the same time. It will charge slower if that power hog app running too. You can tell by how warm/hot your tablet gets when running such app.
btw, go look at the disassemble of the N10. That battle makeup most of the tablet. LOL
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Agree, BUT once you get >85% the rate of charge intake drops. I can get to 85% in 3.9 hours using Pogo cable, but that last 85%-100% is slower. My battery meter sees one kink 85-90 another 90-95 and a slow crawl 95-100. As the battery is not taking up 2A >85%, all chargers, all cables, will largely take the same 85%-100% but the Pogo cable with 2A input will get you to 85% quicker.
I have moved to a dual 2.1A output PSU.

duplicate post.

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duplicate post.
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I know you revised the post but just looked at the link to the PSU you mentioned.
Note that $10 one is dual USB socket but only 2.4A total meaning if it is charging the N10 taking 2A it can only offer 0.4A to something else meaning that other thing can only be something like a phone. More importantly is the opposite if you connect a powerpack USB battery which takes say 1.5A or 2A then your Pogo cable cannot deliver its full capability.
The PSU I mentioned earlier is dual 2.1A both concurrently meaning it can charge the N10 and something else also power-hungry like charging a 2A input or 1.5A input USB battery.
There are PSUs out there which can do 4 lots of 2A concurrent, I didn't get one as they were getting chunky and personally prefer two PSUs, a 2x2A + 1A for total 5A which does my N10, my USB battery (2+2) and my phone (1) concurrently taking two power sockets.
Check the details of specifications of these devices, PSUs and batteries vary wildly.

turbo charge

So i read somewhere that our phones are supposed to charge 60% in 15 minutes.
I tried a few scinerios to see how to get that to work:
I have two chargers, both turbo chargers one wired and one usb.
I tried both with phone having low battery around 15% and waited to get 60% took about 30-40 mins
I tried both with phone being fully discharged and off. Plugged in charger with it still off within the 15 minute time frame i got up to 40%.
Is this normal? or did i just misread this information somewhere? Each time i plugged in the charger it did say turbo charge.
Thanks guys

Some turbo chargers are faster than others. Did you test with the Turbopower 25 that comes with the MXP?

Yup i used that one, I noticed the difference between that one and the usb one

Yeah dude, never trust the info in the box! Mine dont charge 60% in 15 minutes

All right thanks for your response. Just wish they were honest about it, phone still charges way faster than any other phone I had so im pleased. Just wanted others response to make sure im not missing anything.

Charging my S5 with non-OEM cable?

Hey guys, yesterday i noticed something strange: it took 3+ hours to charge my S5 from 8% to 100%. I remember that it used to take around 2 hours at the very maximum from 0% to 100%. Then i remembered that my cable with which I'm charging is not the original one (it got cut long ago) but the charger itself is the original. Is something wrong with my battery? Is the charger bad? Should i search for an OEM usb cable? I don't mind it if it charges for longer as i charge it at night but still, this got me a bit worried that it can degrade my battery overall by keeping it hot for longer than needed. Thanks for any answers.

koragg97 said:
Hey guys, yesterday i noticed something strange: it took 3+ hours to charge my S5 from 8% to 100%. I remember that it used to take around 2 hours at the very maximum from 0% to 100%. Then i remembered that my cable with which I'm charging is not the original one (it got cut long ago) but the charger itself is the original. Is something wrong with my battery? Is the charger bad? Should i search for an OEM usb cable? I don't mind it if it charges for longer as i charge it at night but still, this got me a bit worried that it can degrade my battery overall by keeping it hot for longer than needed. Thanks for any answers.
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My phone gets hot when I use a non OEM cord as well. But its never hurt my phone. I've been doing it for probably a year now. As for the longer charge time is it suddenly taking longer with this cord or is it taking longer because you are now using the cord?

godkingofcanada said:
My phone gets hot when I use a non OEM cord as well. But its never hurt my phone. I've been doing it for probably a year now. As for the longer charge time is it suddenly taking longer with this cord or is it taking longer because you are now using the cord?
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Well not sure as i mostly charge it at night. But my phone's battery life is normal while using it (atleast for now), just curious why it takes so long to charge.

Different cords have different capabilities depending how they were made. There's even some that only give power and no data transfer. Samsung makes fast charge technology for their devices. Other cords may or may not support it.

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godkingofcanada said:
Different cords have different capabilities depending how they were made. There's even some that only give power and no data transfer. Samsung makes fast charge technology for their devices. Other cords may or may not support it.
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Hm, I always thought that fast charging is inside the charger itself and not the cord. Might get an official Samsung one then. Thanks for the info mate

koragg97 said:
Hm, I always thought that fast charging is inside the charger itself and not the cord. Might get an official Samsung one then. Thanks for the info mate
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No problem. They look like this.

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No problem. They look like this.
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It comes with the USB cord as well. And I'm pretty sure fast charge tech is both the handset and the charger itself. I read the charger is 1.5x faster then a normal one even if its not going to a device with fast charge and 2x faster if it is. I didn't mean to quote myself either. Lol