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[HOWTO] Salvage your device after dropping it in a bocket of LATEX Wall Paint.

This is my first post and after weeks of enjoying especially the development forum and now, admittedly suffering from OCFD, I felt it was time to contribute aswell. If not in a more unconventional way.
With the pressure of my girl's first pregnancy coming to an end soon I've been forced to divide my time between flashing great and exciting ROM's and renovating my house. Yesterday whilst painting my walls I was also on call, so my trusted divice was in my pocket.
Then the unthinkable happened...
My almighty Galaxy S somehow managed it's speedy ass out of my pocket and fell into a full bucket of thick, latex paint...
So, here it is;
"How to salvage your device after dropping it an a bucket of Latex wall paint":
- don't hesitate (even if you dropped it in your freshly filled toilet bowl): PULL IT OUT !!!!
- wipe of worst paint with everything that comes in handy (new baby clothes will do nicely)
- PULL THE BATTERY AND SIMCARD
- Now comes the worst bit; the paint being waterbased means; best cleant in water; flush of paint with running WATER.....
- The horror bits are obviously the micro usb port, the speakers, camera...
- Dry with Airdryer if in posession of wife/girlfriend/mother/sister, if not: use heater instead.
- soak the device in WD-40 spray or contact spray, force spraying into the speakers and mic/USB-ports
- Let dry...
- Start praying......
At this moment it's worth noting that I've been poised with indecision in the Vodafone shop between the Desire, iPhone and the Almighty Galaxy S where, apart from the ridiculous TW/Samsung crap, the apparant poor built quality left me doubting...
I thought the nokia 3310 (Yes, I'm that old) and the 6610 (the Great) were the best built phones ever, surviving multiple drops in toilets, submerging during sailing, several liters of beer accidentally spilling on it....Behold the Almighty:
Shaking and trembling, this morning, I continued on my seemingly impossible quest:
- insert SIM card
- insert battery
- Power up the device (all the time, the praying continues)
And there it was.... The beautiful S... And in merely seconds my JPA/doc/Kalpic 7.6.2 ROM unleashed the full beauty again of this great..great device...
As Julie Andrews once sang:
"The hills are alive, with the sound of Music"
grtz
il Grande

What was the color? Me thinks you could have just removed the paint from the screen and ports, and leave the rest, for a certainly unique Galaxy S.

Greate story! Good to hear that my phone can survive such an accident, but I hope it won't happen to me

What an inspiring story. It moves me to see how people with disabilities always find a way to cope with their imperfections.
Now all you need to find is a way to get your phone back when you lose it somewhere.. again, and again.
By the way the n95 you soaked in tea did not survive.

Ketelbinie971 said:
What an inspiring story. It moves me to see how people with disabilities always find a way to cope with their imperfections.
Now all you need to find is a way to get your phone back when you lose it somewhere.. again, and again.
By the way the n95 you soaked in tea did not survive.
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Hello Ketelbin"K"ie
1. I only mentioned the solid Nokia's
2. ..and still... even after I soaked it in Latex, it outrules your amish HTC Desire
Shouldn't you be working?

Even though its working again, the innards will be rusting away at an accelerated rate due to all the hydrophilic electrolyte salts dried up on your circuitry. So cross your fingers and hope it lasts until your next phone,

My wife dropped a Samsung Omnia 2 in the toilet last week, and was able to revive it by removing the battery immediately and with an air dryer and a lot of praying

How many Defy of yours have lost waterproofness?

Hi, fella forumers! I'm just wondering: how many of your Defy have lost (or still retain) its waterproofness up to now?
Mine has lost this quality about half a year ago. At first I noticed that there were vapours gathering inside the screen, which would go away if I opened the back lid for a while. But once the micro-USB port totally stoppoed functioning that I wasn't able to charge the battery, so I have to got it repaired. I was told that circuit board has water stains which caused the malfunctioning...
It's actually my seconf Defy, which was bought in Oct. 2011, after I've forgotten my first Defy in taxi... I was pretty satified with Defy at that moment and really value its waterproofness, so I didn't hesitate to buy a second one while there were already a lot of more advanced (but not waterproofing) smart phones on the market. Therefore, its waterproofness just lasted for roughly two years, which is much shorter than I had expected. I thought for at least five years it would be as new as just rolling out of the assembling line every time I washed it under tap water - but it turned out to be not the truth, sadly.
Well, I have to admit that I did wash my Defy regularly - in fact almost everyday, because - well, 'scientists' say that computer keyboards and mobile phones (previously it was traditional telephone) collect more germs, etc. that toilets. So eveytime I was back home, I just put it under the tap water, briefly let the currents to go through it. It shouldn't hurt, right?
Right now my Defy is completely 'hydrophobic'. I no longer dip it in water. I guess I will continue to use it for a year or two. Still, the fact is not up to my high expectation.
So, I would like to see if this is my own unfortune or a normal phenomenon. It's quite critial to know the result because if I do change my mobile phone, I would definitely choose a waterproofing one still. But now my confidence for such phones has been significantly weakened. If new phones repeat this fate after just a couple of years, I don't think it's really meaningful to pay more money for this not-long-lasting porperty.
Maybe the manufacturing technoligy has already advanced - phones nowadays are tougher than their predecessors?

Well, mine is about 8 months old (yes, I could've bought a newer device but thats a different story). In my time of using this phone, I would only say its water resistant and not exactly waterproof. Sometimes when I dip it in water (either to clean it after a busy day outdoors or when friends want to test it), i realize that some traces of tiny droplets do make it inside (looks like vapor sometimes). But it does not enter the battery area. This is probably due to the rubber lining. It still worries me as these traces of tiny droplets did somewhat enter.
I would suggest cleaning it with a wet cloth instead. Treat the waterproofing like it is an emergency feature...just in case
If and when you want to switch phones and still want waterproof, I'd say look at Sony. If you need removable battery, the Xperia ZR looks promising and if you don't mind not being able to access the battery, their other models are alright too. For me personally, battery life is important.
R u using any custom ROM?

My defy is waterproof to a great extent, but steam does enter, and sometimes condenses on the inside of the screen, and the camera lens. But under running water/rain no water enters. I once kept it in a bucket of water for some time, and a few drops made it to the edge, or maybe they came from the cover itself. So, it's good enough for me
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Mine lost 6 months back. the rubber round usb port got deteriorated and then came off. Now i cant cover usb port with the lid. cant find it selling anywhere either.

coldfusionhybrid said:
Well, mine is about 8 months old (yes, I could've bought a newer device but thats a different story). In my time of using this phone, I would only say its water resistant and not exactly waterproof. Sometimes when I dip it in water (either to clean it after a busy day outdoors or when friends want to test it), i realize that some traces of tiny droplets do make it inside (looks like vapor sometimes). But it does not enter the battery area. This is probably due to the rubber lining. It still worries me as these traces of tiny droplets did somewhat enter.
I would suggest cleaning it with a wet cloth instead. Treat the waterproofing like it is an emergency feature...just in case
If and when you want to switch phones and still want waterproof, I'd say look at Sony. If you need removable battery, the Xperia ZR looks promising and if you don't mind not being able to access the battery, their other models are alright too. For me personally, battery life is important.
R u using any custom ROM?
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Yes, I've been flashing Quarx's roms.
I agree with you that Sony's Xpreia might be a good candidate, but it's only IP57 or IP55, right? So the grade is even lower than our Defy.
In fact it seems that nowadays at the market there are only two major series of waterproof smart phones: Sony's Xperia and Samsung's Galaxy S4 Active. Some sources mentioned that the latter is not that water-resistent. Of course there are other tougher phones which are heavily-armoured, but there are twice thicker and heavier - real bricks. Some have suggested that Lenovo's S750 is the next Defy, but as far as I can see, the technology used for waterproofness is the same of Defy's. Naturally I doubt if it will last longer than Defy.
IMHO, I think, at least in my case, the water enters into my Defy mainly through the back battery lid. It's made of a piece of platics that bends after year's using, so there comes the gap between the rubber band. Also, as vai0 has mentioned, the USB lid is vulnerable for the same reason. There's no conern for the headset jack, because it's totally made of rubber.
Anyway, I wish factories like Samsung and Lenovo will not follow Motorola and just make only one shot for good, but will keep designing new tough phones to the market.
By the way, I don't think phones like Moto X applied with nano-coating does not make too much sense, since the phone's still not watertight after all.

ymyzhifeng said:
Yes, I've been flashing Quarx's roms.
I agree with you that Sony's Xpreia might be a good candidate, but it's only IP57 or IP55, right? So the grade is even lower than our Defy.
In fact it seems that nowadays at the market there are only two major series of waterproof smart phones: Sony's Xperia and Samsung's Galaxy S4 Active. Some sources mentioned that the latter is not that water-resistent. Of course there are other tougher phones which are heavily-armoured, but there are twice thicker and heavier - real bricks. Some have suggested that Lenovo's S750 is the next Defy, but as far as I can see, the technology used for waterproofness is the same of Defy's. Naturally I doubt if it will last longer than Defy.
IMHO, I think, at least in my case, the water enters into my Defy mainly through the back battery lid. It's made of a piece of platics that bends after year's using, so there comes the gap between the rubber band. Also, as vai0 has mentioned, the USB lid is vulnerable for the same reason. There's no conern for the headset jack, because it's totally made of rubber.
Anyway, I wish factories like Samsung and Lenovo will not follow Motorola and just make only one shot for good, but will keep designing new tough phones to the market.
By the way, I don't think phones like Moto X applied with nano-coating does not make too much sense, since the phone's still not watertight after all.
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The Sony may be ip55/57 but its good enough from what I've read. As for Samsung, I didn't suggest it because I don't like how they design things. Its appalling and I feel as if its insulting the consumer with their designs and material finish. Unfortunately, Samsung is one of the very few manufacturers that constantly deliver on 2 other important things (to me); removable battery and expandable storage. Still won't buy from them. But hey, thats just me. As for Lenovo, I have not tried it yet. Personally, I'm looking at the Xperia ZR at the moment if i choose to change (will still keep my Defy+ as secondary if i change ). A review in case you're interested too
Yeah, nano-coating isn't really water-proofing. I find it more like a water resistant protection. Sometimes there are phone models that become popular to the point that accessory makers produce cases that offer some sort of protection against water/dust. Thats something you can look at as well (with caution of course)

Defy is not water proof, it is water resistant. I did never wash it or put it into water and it is still in good condition (bought 06/2011), now with Android 4.4.
I'm replacing it with an XCover2 (IP67 certified) and also there the manual warns to immerse it in water although it has an underwater camera.

Samsung Note 4 - display seems to dissolve" from the inside??!

I'm desperate!!!
.. I got my brand new Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (SM-N910C) just a week ago and I have been using it in a leather case just from the very first moment The device is my jewel and I take care of it, as if it were my own child!
My Note 4 has never been exposed at any kind of mechanical or thermal stress and is used with the following three cases:
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00...01&tag=andrhilfdeand-21&ascsubtag=0b009l1qtqd
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00...01&tag=andrhilfdeand-21&ascsubtag=0b009l1qtqk
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00...00&tag=andrhilfdeand-21&ascsubtag=08009l11bqj
This morning I noticed an "internal scratch" (??) that was definitly not present the day before, as this "scratch" is very notecible. The display anomaly is located on the upper left corner of the display. As can be seen in the pictures, it looks as if a small remnant of a film/foil or an adhesive (adhesive tape) on the display lingered on the surface of the glass, but this is DEFINITLY not the case! The surface of the glass is PERFECTLY smooth, so anomaly must be present below the glass.
I have absolutely no idea what this anomaly could be and how this anomaly could have occured!
Has anyone ever observed / experienced / heard of something similar and doues anyone know what to do? The device is just a week old, and was treated like a raw egg! What could that be?
Should I send the device in for repair? But I am REALLY NOT keen to give my device away for repair, because I'm afraid that my precious mait might get damaged/ scratched by the exchange of the glass! If this is unfounded?
I am also absolutely dependent on my device and can practically not forgo my phone a single day, as it is my only means of communication. For this reason, sending in for repair really is no option for me!
Does anybody know if there is an on-site service for Samsung mobiles (near Stuttgart, Germany). Is it maybe possible/ probable to get a new replacement unit? Because this display anomaly is undoubtedly a manufacturing fault!
I thank you for all the your answers, suggestions and support!
Yours sincerely.
Some high-resolution images of the anomaly:

How being given a OnePlus 2 phone made me love my Note 4 more than ever.

I'm no hardware guru, but have a minor league rep among my friends for being able to resurrect computers and phones. The other day, a friend handling his company's phone needs handed me a OnePlus 2, made in China back in 2015 and which caused quite a buzz as "The Flagship Killer." "Do what you can... it's all yours," he said. Hmm.
The problem with my new problem phone remains undiagnosed, though the symptoms are many spontaneous reboots and sometimes just downright lock-ups with black screen. Now... what would *you* do with your Samsung Note 4 if you got a lock-up? I'll answer that rhetorical question. I'd open up the back of the phone (about five seconds) pop out the battery, pop it back in (about 3 seconds), close up the back and hit the on button. And nearly always, it reboots happily.
You just don't know how good you have it until you are faced with this same task holding a OnePlus2 (or any OnePlus if I understand right). First, off comes the back of the phone. Five seconds, cool. BUT... what is this? A second "inner" back, this one with - count 'em - 18 tiny phillips head screws. Oh, and six of them have tiny rubber plugs over the top of 'em. And oh, don't forget to remove the dual sim card holder before you pull that baby off. And when you unscrew that little last screw with the white paper top on it? You *just voided your warranty*. (Though the 2015 date on these makes that unimportant now.)
A heck of a lot longer than what I described with the Note 4 in this situation. Hold your Note 4 in your hand and be glad.... be very glad.
But now comes the battery. It isn't easily removable (wedged tightly into its seat and taped beneath with some infernal stuff). But the good news, unless you're replacing it, is this: Unplug it, replug it. A little square plug that though odd can be undone with the edge of a finger nail. Plug it back in. And let's say the phone reboots with out trouble.
Great! So now I put the back(s) on again, after all those screws... only to have the phone suddenly lock up again. And not start. With any button combination.
The only Note 4 I've seen do that consistently is one smitten with the dreaded emmc memory errors. But the OnePlus community forums are filled with people trying to figure out how to reboot their phones after such mysterious shut-downs. Half of the "answers" look suspiciously like voodoo. Look, the OnePlus2 is a year newer than the Note 4, and it does have a really nice fingerprint pad right on the front. And it works great (I did get to use it for a while before it once again shut off). But did I mention that though it can run two sim cards, neither one will allow for a micro-sd card? Look again at your lowly Note 4, and be glad.
I am *really* loving my Samsung Note 4 right now. And whatever comes in the future, any phone I use must have a removable battery, not to mention the extra micro-sd slot. The OnePlus 2? Pretty much, because of the insane battery design, this is how *not* to engineer a phone. (I won't diss the not so great screen... because I have a Note 4 with a great screen and mocking others without such a nice screen just wouldn't be nice.)
So... what have we learned?
Never buy a phone without an easily removable battery.
Never buy a phone that restarts constantly, in part because of (see above line).
And....
Look again at your Note 4, which you own. Yes, you made that decision. You could have had a OnePlus2. Yikes! And good job!!

I had already made a clear decision never to buy a phone with a non-replaceable battery but manufacturers have been deliberately making this extremely difficult and our options are becoming much more limited. The market has not been driven by what consumers demand but rather by what manufacturers dictate.

Galaxy S8 to S8+ Conversion

Hi, so long story short my S8 got destroyed when it was left on top of our car and fell off and got run over. Since the frame and glass were both completely destroy I was wondering if It still worked, and it turns out it does the notification light still blinks and the CPU still gets warm so the board is OK. I was wondering could I transfer the components from the old S8 to a S8+ shell, or would it not fit? I have G950U if that helps.

More than likely it will not work in the S8+ chassis. Screw holes will likely not line up. Not to mention the screen size, specific software and hardware differences on the board itself.