How is reception on T-Mobile? I'm used to flawless 6p service.
Pretty close to what I go with my Note 4 which was very good.
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huntnyc said:
Pretty close to what I go with my Note 4 which was very good.
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Are you in an area, or have you tried in an area with only Band 12 (700 Mhz 'Extended Range LTE') available? These are usually rural areas. (check the T-Mobile coverage map). My next phone must have good Band 12 reception and it would be great if someone could verify this for me with the Axon 7. Thanks.
Saw band 12 briefly in Brooklyn today around 74 dBm outside.
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Are you in an area, or have you tried in an area with only Band 12 (700 Mhz 'Extended Range LTE') available? These are usually rural areas. (check the T-Mobile coverage map). My next phone must have good Band 12 reception and it would be great if someone could verify this for me with the Axon 7. Thanks.
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Yes I've been in Band 12-only areas (Kremmling and Oak Creek, CO and surrounding areas) and the Axon 7 gets a fine signal. Comparable to my old Nexus 6 and 5X. VoLTE also works just fine. The Axon appears to not have too much trouble switching from roaming to band 12 native coverage, but occasionally if you drive through the band 12 area quite quickly the phone won't have time to notice (if you're on a roaming operator prior to hitting the B12 area). This is sometimes a problem here in the mountains as the topography inhibits all cell signals, including band 12, and in the case of both Oak Creek and Kremmling you can drive through the B12 area in under 5 minutes or so and the phone sometimes misses it totally and sticks to roaming. But of course, every phone has this problem to some degree.
But all in all I'd say the Axon 7 is on par with other devices I've tried vis-a-vis band 12 LTE.
I haven't run into any issues in my area
Doing better than my Moto X Pure 2015.
I get great signal and speeds in Indianapolis and the surrounding areas.
i was on 4 days tour. T-mobile reception was not good. many times there was no signal. few times it was on ATT roaming. i dont know it is Axon 7 or T-mobile network issue. (states i was visiting are PA,WV,NJ,MD,OH.)
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Here in Minneapolis on the G2, I often lose 3G inside buildings (switches to Edge). I never had that problem on AT&T. Does the T-Mobile 1700 3G Band not penetrate buildings as well as the AT&T 3G bands?
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Depends on your location. T-Mobile here in Pittsburgh rapes AT&T, three times over and over.
The downlink of AWS 1700 is around 2110 MHz. The downlink of CLR 850 is around 880 MHz. Lower frequencies tend to penetrate buildings better. Of course this is assuming all other factors equal (e.g. density of site deployment).
It is as jashsu says, shorter bandwidth signals penetrate buildings better.
I got a good 3 megs per sec over my friends iphone4 when I had a vibrant so I'm not sweating it speed test app for who wants to know
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There are a number of factors for this.
- Phone reception
- When your local network is set to switch over to 3G
- 3G network maturity/Investments
It's not the same across different cities (networks are built out differently) or phones, HTC in general has been mediocre to acceptable depending on the device. Lock 3G if you must.
heygrl said:
There are a number of factors for this.
- Phone reception
- When your local network is set to switch over to 3G
- 3G network maturity/Investments
It's not the same across different cities (networks are built out differently) or phones, HTC in general has been mediocre to acceptable depending on the device. Lock 3G if you must.
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How do I lock 3 G on the G2?
Damn I miss pittsburgh but anway...
In Houston ATT kills T-mobile. I have both services. Constantly having problems with signal and I'm just 2 bloccs from the tower yet no problems with ATT and the speed is incredible. Just depends on your area.
Hello everyone,
I did a search in the q&a forums and didn't find anything about this. Is it possible for me to get 4g lte using an att sim card through straight talk? Just today 4g was activated in my area and it would be great to use that instead of my crappy internet connection which is like 3mb download. I know i would need to use either an older radio or a hybrid one for the nexus 4 to have lte functionality, but would it work on straight talk att?
Thank you for your help,
KerryWood34
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I don't know about about LTE on AT&T but if you go into Settings-More-Mobile Networks and enable Data Roaming then go to Access Point Names and hit Menu then reset to default you should see a slight increase in a good coverage area. I went from averaging 3 Mbps to 6 Mbps.
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KerryWood34 said:
Hello everyone,
I did a search in the q&a forums and didn't find anything about this. Is it possible for me to get 4g lte using an att sim card through straight talk? Just today 4g was activated in my area and it would be great to use that instead of my crappy internet connection which is like 3mb download. I know i would need to use either an older radio or a hybrid one for the nexus 4 to have lte functionality, but would it work on straight talk att?
Thank you for your help,
KerryWood34
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1) Straight Talk has no LTE, AIO (owned by AT&T and available in limited markets) is the only MVNO with LTE. Otherwise you need Go Phone (AT&T prepaid).
2) It only connects to LTE on 1700 MHz Band 4. Most of AT&T uses 700 MHz Band 17, but there are some Band 4 areas (Puerto Rico and Oklahoma City have been reported).
Best advice is to check if T-Mobile has good coverage in your area (I average 15 Mbps down just on HSPA+), and all of T-Mobile's LTE is on Band 4.
jjchdc said:
I don't know about about LTE on AT&T but if you go into Settings-More-Mobile Networks and enable Data Roaming then go to Access Point Names and hit Menu then reset to default you should see a slight increase in a good coverage area. I went from averaging 3 Mbps to 6 Mbps.
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I meant my actual internet connection lol. I have centurylink in the middle of nowhere and their highest speed
is 6mb, but im lucky if i get 4mb. Having 4g would be a godsend because i could use a wireless hotspot for everything.
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1) Straight Talk has no LTE, AIO (owned by AT&T and available in limited markets) is the only MVNO with LTE. Otherwise you need Go Phone (AT&T prepaid).
2) It only connects to LTE on 1700 MHz Band 4. Most of AT&T uses 700 MHz Band 17, but there are some Band 4 areas (Puerto Rico and Oklahoma City have been reported).
Best advice is to check if T-Mobile has good coverage in your area (I average 15 Mbps down just on HSPA+), and all of T-Mobile's LTE is on Band 4.
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Unfortunately I dont think i get t-mobile coverage where I am. Only ATT. So there's no hope then huh?
Side note, I am half Puerto Rican and half Mexican. You just made me miss my island lol.
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I would beg for 3Mbps download on my Nexus4 on Straight Talk AT&T. The highest speed I every got was 1.06 Mbps.
If you live out in the middle of nowhere then you won't be getting LTE form any carrier any time soon. Best you will get is HSPA+ from AT&T. Also Chicago is another area where AT&T is using band 4 as they don't have enough band 17 coverage in that area to serve it properly.
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If you live out in the middle of nowhere then you won't be getting LTE form any carrier any time soon. Best you will get is HSPA+ from AT&T. Also Chicago is another area where AT&T is using band 4 as they don't have enough band 17 coverage in that area to serve it properly.
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I know there is 4g in my area now. Other phones in the house are getting 4g. I was just hoping there was some hope for my wife and I to be able to get 4g as well through ATT. How would i test which band my area is using and assuming I were able to get 4g what would be the steps to getting it on my nexus 4?
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straighttalk lte in Hawaii
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I know there is 4g in my area now. Other phones in the house are getting 4g. I was just hoping there was some hope for my wife and I to be able to get 4g as well through ATT. How would i test which band my area is using and assuming I were able to get 4g what would be the steps to getting it on my nexus 4?
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Just noticed LTE on my wife's HTC One on straighttalk using an AT&T mvno here in Hawaii.
I only did one speed test 7mbs up and down. Pleasantly surprised.
I have noticed in a couple of places my Nexus 6 on Verizon will drop its LTE connectivity briefly. For example, during 4-5 speedtest.net runs, it paused and eventually gave me the "network communication issues" message at least 2-3 times during those 4-5 attempts in one specific location where I know I've seen it have a weak band 4 signal but strong band 13 signal.
Then I read this article which talks about carrier aggregation, and noticed this paragraph:
Because it supports band 29, it has support for LTE-Advanced downlink carrier aggregation with bands 2 and 4 to improve downlink performance. It also supports downlink carrier aggregation with bands 2+13, 2+17, 4+5, 4+13, and 4+17. Curiously enough, none of these band combinations that aren’t associated with band 29 indicate “coverage bands” are supported as the primary component carrier (PCC). Instead, they are noted as secondary component carriers (SCC), as denoted in the format PCC+SCC. This means that in the event you move out of range of the PCC (which are bands 2 or 4 on this device), the network connection will drop and have to be re-acquired instead of seamlessly just switching off carrier aggregation. As long as the network re-acquisition is quick (less than one second), it isn’t a problem.
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Emphasis mine. I am coming from a Galaxy S4 which supports band 4 and band 13 but I'm not sure if it supported carrier aggregation or not. I know I never saw disconnects like this on it. Is this something that can/will be fixed? Or just something we have to live with if we're in an area with spotty band 4 but solid band 13 coverage? It would seem this would cause a disconnect EVERY time you enter a building since band 4 doesn't penetrate as well as band 13 and it'd flip over and cause a disconnect.
I got an N910U for use on AT&T in the US. All the phones in my house get full bars since I am on a hill near a lot of cell towers. Except the N910U usually has 0 to 1 bars and only rarely gets LTE. I used LTE discovery app to see that it is almost always on band 2 where the signal is very poor, but very ocassionally switches to band 17 and gets full bars! Then it quickly switches back to band 2 and gets 0 or 1 bars. I tried flashing the other two modems I could find, but it did not change how it acted. I am about to send it back for a refund and get an N910T instead to see if that works better, but it would be much easier to find a solution to why it won't use the strongest signal,
Nevermind. I thought I did adequate research on this phone before I bought it for AT&T, and every Q&A on Amazon asking if the U worked on AT&T LTE said it did. But were wrong. The U does not have 700MHz band 17. So I must return it.
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I got an N910U for use on AT&T in the US. All the phones in my house get full bars since I am on a hill near a lot of cell towers. Except the N910U usually has 0 to 1 bars and only rarely gets LTE. I used LTE discovery app to see that it is almost always on band 2 where the signal is very poor, but very ocassionally switches to band 17 and gets full bars! Then it quickly switches back to band 2 and gets 0 or 1 bars. I tried flashing the other two modems I could find, but it did not change how it acted. I am about to send it back for a refund and get an N910T instead to see if that works better, but it would be much easier to find a solution to why it won't use the strongest signal,
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SM-N910U Galaxy Note 4 does not support band 17, therefore the device does not support AT&T's main LTE band. The device, however, supports several AT&T's supplemental LTE bands, which include band 2, band 4, and band 5. You will only receive LTE signal if you are located in the area where one of these three bands is broadcasting.
Also, you will never receive the strongest signal that AT&T provides because AT&T utilizes device prioritization. The cell tower that you are connected to is programmed to provide best service to AT&T devices. The tower will constantly inform your phone to connect to 3G which is less congested in order to allocate network bandwidth for AT&T branded devices on its LTE network.
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Also, you will never receive the strongest signal that AT&T provides because AT&T utilizes device prioritization. The cell tower that you are connected to is programmed to provide best service to AT&T devices. The tower will constantly inform your phone to connect to 3G which is less congested in order to allocate network bandwidth for AT&T branded devices on its LTE network.
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Thanks for the info. Does that mean I would still have a low priority if I got a N910T to use on AT&T?
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Thanks for the info. Does that mean I would still have a low priority if I got a N910T to use on AT&T?
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Yes that is correct. If you ran a speedtest with N910T and N910A (AT&T version) side by side on AT&T's network, you will notice around 5mbps - 20mbps difference between the two. As far as I know, AT&T is the only carrier in the US that utilizes this practice.
Can we change it to get the full Band access? I believe there was no any hardware limit on it, Most is on the software settings.
Maybe I'm not reading this correctly, but when I use activity launcher to view what bands are available to enable, band N71 doesn't show as being enabled or a option to enable this. Comparing what shows as 5G on my McLaren vs my 7T show no difference at all between the two connections. Attaching the photo from what I'm looking at
This phone's 5G is currently non-standalone and probably difficult to configure. Or menus haven't kept up with the tech.
Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.
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I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.
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Thanks for the info. But how do I get my phone to actually display a 5G connection? I'm definitely within range. However, I only get 4G LTE to show.
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Thanks for the info. But how do I get my phone to actually display a 5G connection? I'm definitely within range. However, I only get 4G LTE to show.
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I have not received my 5G device yet; we have only the display McLaren; no Note10+ 5G's in store they are ship to only so I have not tinkered with the devices as of yet. I can take a look at the McLaren when I go in tomorrow and see if there are any settings that have to be enabled. To my understanding it was all done via signal detection and based on the area you are in. I will have a look and get back to you guys.
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I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.
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Does 600mhz mean band 71? My phone shows 5G all the time but lte Discovery and signal spy say only band 2, 4, and 12. No 71, so why not?
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Does 600mhz mean band 71? My phone shows 5G all the time but lte Discovery and signal spy say only band 2, 4, and 12. No 71, so why not?
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Yes "T-Mobile's 600 MHz Band 71 Network."
T-Mobile LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71 Frequencies 1900, 1700 def, 700 a, 600
See map for your coverage: 5g-coverage-map
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Yes "T-Mobile's 600 MHz Band 71 Network."
T-Mobile LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71 Frequencies 1900, 1700 def, 700 a, 600
See map for your coverage: 5g-coverage-map
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So why no band 71 if 5G is supposedly on the 600mhz network? What am missing?
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So why no band 71 if 5G is supposedly on the 600mhz network? What am missing?
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All three of these are part of 5G
T-Mobile has multiple 5G bands just not all of them are implemented on large scale across the nation yet. For example the millimeter wave spectrum above 24 GHz, it is also referred to as High Band.
"Millimeter wave is incredibly fast, but the signal does not travel very far from the tower and can be disrupted by trees and windows.
We currently have 5G millimeter wave available in 6 major cities.
Speed: Fastest.
Coverage: A couple city blocks."
"Mid Band consists of spectrum between 1 GHz and 8 GHz.
Mid Band has the benefit of being fast while also covering a larger area than millimeter Wave. The breadth of coverage is vast and still delivers a fast experience.
T-Mobile has not yet deployed Mid Band 5G service.
Speed: Fast."
'Low Band consists of spectrum under 1 GHz, this includes our new 600 MHz signal.
Our newest, most powerful 600 MHz low band signal is the foundation of our 5G network. No signal goes farther or is more reliable, so with T-Mobile you’ll get 5G in more places.
Our 600 MHz signal travels several miles from the tower so we have a wide footprint. The signal also penetrates walls and deep inside buildings so it’s better indoors.
Speed: Average.
Coverage: Hundreds of square miles from the tower."
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Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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The speed difference for you is that drastic that you would return it? Was it purchased outright or you paying monthly into your bill? Curious since speed itsnt my main issue, it's the terrible GPS locking issues.
Looking at the configurations of the OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren in the store; the 5G only shows when WiFi is off. All of the other settings is automatic unless they have been changed manually. You can check the main configurations in Settings>Wifi>Sim>Preferred Network.
I have not been able to get my McLaren to show 5G at all only 4G LTE. I spoke to a store rep which told me there is currently a software bug preventing it from showing. But.... They didn't seem to be too sure how the signals actually work, even mentioned MmWave for some reason.... Could be straight BS, I will do some more testing later today. My speeds are faster but not sure if its because of actually being connected to the n71 or not.
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I have not been able to get my McLaren to show 5G at all only 4G LTE. I spoke to a store rep which told me there is currently a software bug preventing it from showing. But.... They didn't seem to be too sure how the signals actually work, even mentioned MmWave for some reason.... Could be straight BS, I will do some more testing later today. My speeds are faster but not sure if its because of actually being connected to the n71 or not.
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At least I'm not the only one. I've played with all kinds of settings, but have never seen it show a 5g signal.
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At least I'm not the only one. I've played with all kinds of settings, but have never seen it show a 5g signal.
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I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time
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I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time
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Thanks for the tip. It didn't work though. :crying:
I got mine on Saturday, and I've had 5G without doing anything. Yeah, there's a few spots where it falls back to 4G LTE, but that's expected. I'm in southern California FYI.
Didn't work for me in Chicago north burbs.
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I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time
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Tried with no luck. I wonder if this has to do with a software version, what is on yours?
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Tried with no luck. I wonder if this has to do with a software version, what is on yours?
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I got the latest update on it I live in Grand rapids Michigan
I still use my 6 months old SIM