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Is the 6P a worthy upgrade from the One Plus One?

Can you please suggest me, what is going on in this country?

rajarshi10 said:
Can you please suggest me, what is going on in this country?
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hell yes

Hmmm....

jaythenut said:
hell yes
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Hell yeah...I had the oneplusone before my 6P have had it now for hmm nearly a month and am super happy with my Nexus 6P.
Rooted it and have now Viper4Android on it with Beanstalk/Marshmellow Runs like a dream!!

Nah I would wait for the ZTE AXOM MAX or the HTC A9

icem8n said:
Hell yeah...I had the oneplusone before my 6P have had it now for hmm nearly a month and am super happy with my Nexus 6P.
Rooted it and have now Viper4Android on it with Beanstalk/Marshmellow Runs like a dream!!
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And that's why I said yes it is a good upgrade

I've had the Oneplus One, moved on to the Oneplus Two, and finally settled on the Nexus 6P. I was actually pretty happy with all three devices but there are definitely strengths and weaknesses for each one. What tilted the decision in favor of the 6P was definitely the camera. I was expecting good things from the Oneplus Two, but its implementation left me disappointed.
Oneplus One:
+ Battery Life
+ Robust community for custom roms
- Plasticky external build quality
- Weak Camera
- Lacks fingerprint sensor
Oneplus Two
+ Dual Sim, a useful feature for me since I'm often travelling
+ Excellent external build quality
+/- OxygenOS isn't as bad as what others make it out to be and works well mostly
- Poor fingerprint sensor implementation (doesn't recognize my finger half the time)
- Camera can be further improved (keeps adjusting focus during video capture)
Nexus 6P
+ Best camera of the lot, even with the lack of OIS
+ Marshmallow: Doze has been phenomenal so far
+ Fingerprint sensor is consistently fast and accurate
+ Gorgeous screen and outstanding build quality
+/- Mixed feelings about Ambient Display for now, potentially useful but Android Wear supersedes its value
- DT2W not available on stock rom
- Bluetooth audio constantly skipping if Android Wear is connected concurrently (YMMV)
- Does not work with certain earphones without workarounds, e.g. Xiaomi Pistons

I'm assuming the OP is not a rhetorical question.
I owned a OnePlus One briefly and I currently have a OnePlus Two. Neither holds a candle to the Nexus 6P. Everything about the 6P, from the build to the display to the camera to the SoC to the fingerprint sensor, is a step up from the OnePlus Two, let alone the OnePlus One, which is getting long in the tooth at this point.
The lack of out-of-the-box double-tap to wake (which, frankly, is a huge pain-point for me since I love the feature and I don't think it'd tax Android too much, frankly -- Windows 10/8.1. has it, for crying out loud -- it doesn't cause much drain on lesser hardware so I don't know why this isn't a stock feature of Android's) is one the few minuses for the Nexus 6P.
I've not had issues with other things like connectivity (6.0.1. apparently introduced some LTE issues for some users), or popping glass or bending chassis. I suspect there are things behind those stories (except the LTE issue, which is quite fixable) than the reports suggest.
Let me use an analogy to answer your question. The OnePlus One is a nice little Volkswagen Beetle (emissions issues aside). Reliable, affordable, fun to drive, nice to look at, etc. Meanwhile, the Nexus 6P is a 5 series BMW. An elegant, high performance machine that also projects a certain level of means. They're in different classes of cars so comparing them is like comparing apples and bananas. At the end of the day, while you'll always love your Beetle, if you can afford to get a 5 or 7-series BMW, you should definitely get one. The same thing can be said for the OnePlus One and the Nexus 6P.

^good analogy! Why drive a car if you can fly First Class! Nexus6 P ftw

rajarshi10 said:
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FWIW: My OPO died at 14 months and OPO refused to do anything about it saying that it was out of warranty so I was out of luck. You can draw your own conclusions.
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I just came from a opo, its not as big of an upgrade as you might think. The in hand feel is nice, but the opo feels sturdier, performance is nice, but not that much better than when I was running sultanxdas marshmallow release. The battery does not last as long on my 6p, but the camera and upcoming band 12 support are the reasons why I switched. That's about it. Oh the fingerprint reader is cool, but I used smartlock so I rarely needed to unlock anyways.
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So I guess, sticking to my One Plus One isn't a bad idea after all.

Mate 8 vs Nexus 6

Hey,
I have a Motorola Nexus 6 and I'm thinking to change it with a Mate 8. Can you please let me know if is worth the upgrade, or i'm better with then Nexus?
Thanks!

dejavu86 said:
Hey,
I have a Motorola Nexus 6 and I'm thinking to change it with a Mate 8. Can you please let me know if is worth the upgrade, or i'm better with then Nexus?
Thanks!
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Camera / sound / custom roms / OS updates / love for stock Android: keep the Nexus.
Screen size / battery life / possibly performance but won't differ much: buy the Mate 8.

Pfeffernuss said:
Camera / sound / custom roms / OS updates / love for stock Android: keep the Nexus.
Screen size / battery life / possibly performance but won't differ much: buy the Mate 8.
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I have a custom ROM on my Nexus, so I don't care that much about updates .
Screen size - 6" have both
So the only upgrade will be in terms of battery and maybe performance....? It's seems to me that is not worth it so much....

dejavu86 said:
I have a custom ROM on my Nexus, so I don't care that much about updates .
Screen size - 6" have both
So the only upgrade will be in terms of battery and maybe performance....? It's seems to me that is not worth it so much....
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The battery life and the fingerprint scanner are the advantages of the Mate 8. The build quality is great as well but that's about it.

Fingerprint scanner on the rear is, imho, completely useless. I usually leave the phone on my desk and simply double (well, triple) tap to wake it. Picking it up every time is incredibly cumbersome.
Battery life is great. Camera, in low light, is abysmal and with the newer 32x builds not even functioning properly anymore (stock camera that is)

dejavu86 said:
Hey,
I have a Motorola Nexus 6 and I'm thinking to change it with a Mate 8. Can you please let me know if is worth the upgrade, or i'm better with then Nexus?
Thanks!
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Nexus 6 is a heep compared to the mate 8. But, development is much better for the nexus. Personally, I have had both and went with the mate 8. The nexus is way too slow with bad battery life and no fingerprint sensor. Mate 8 is awesome.

loudog3114 said:
Nexus 6 is a heep compared to the mate 8. But, development is much better for the nexus. Personally, I have had both and went with the mate 8. The nexus is way too slow with bad battery life and no fingerprint sensor. Mate 8 is awesome.
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Nice to have an opinion from someone who had both phones. Personally it's seems a bit harsh to say about a 2 year old phone that is slower.... even if it's true, I don't believe that in the way we use the phones we can actually see the difference, at least not between this 2 phones. But if you say so I believe you.
Second I will love a better battery that will last me for 2 days with moderate use. And the fingerprint scanner is a plus. But beside this...I really don't see any another improvements to spend other money to make this change . Don't get me wrong, I love the design of the Mate 8 but I would love a phone with that design and battery and with stock android.
Still judging whether to change it or not ...

In my opinion the Nexus 6 was a bit of a failure. Camera is probably better on the Mate 8 and definitely battery life. Otherwise buy a Nexus 6P instead it would be a good updrade in every way.

-Discussion- Mi Mix 1 Vs Pixel XL (thinking about leaving :'( )

Sighh.. so guys, i had my mi mix for about 6 months and i loveD this phone. but i feel like its come to the end of the line already.
MIUI is basically unusable for me, missed notifications, calls missed by delay of ring & late notifications, group texting is horrible, camera image processing sucks, OS crashes etc. (all this before rooting mind you)
But after rooting all of those issues went away....for a bit.
so since day 2 i had it rooted running lineageOS and switched to RR, but 3 months later and up til today i started experiencing:
Slight screen burn
Constant OS Crashes/Random Reboots
Cell Signal dropping in areas that it didnt while running MIUI
Still bad camera image processing
Call Audio dropping extremely low when volume is Maxed
Bluetooth disconnects while my phone is in my pocket (didnt happen on MIUI)
and several other things.
I work in I.T. and cant have some of these things happening while at work.
I started looking at alternative devices and since the Pixel 2 is too dang much for my pockets I'm considering the Pixel XL.
I hate that the screen is 5.5 inches over my 6.4 but I need something nice that works. I'm wondering if i left if I'd be happy or nah?

Personally, the screen real estate and battery life the mi mix provides are too good to leave for a mere 5.5 inch phone. Also, I'd rather have 1080p over 1440p as I consider it a waste. I don't mind the lcd over amoled, I love the screen just fine, and I don't take lots of pictures so I'm not really bugged by the camera. Overall I consider the pixel xl an ugly ass phone and think it'd be crazy to change your beautiful and futuristic mi mix with that humongous display for an ugly small screened phone that doesn't even have a better processor. Hope it helped

manupa14 said:
Personally, the screen real estate and battery life the mi mix provides are too good to leave for a mere 5.5 inch phone. Also, I'd rather have 1080p over 1440p as I consider it a waste. I don't mind the lcd over amoled, I love the screen just fine, and I don't take lots of pictures so I'm not really bugged by the camera. Overall I consider the pixel xl an ugly ass phone and think it'd be crazy to change your beautiful and futuristic mi mix with that humongous display for an ugly small screened phone that doesn't even have a better processor. Hope it helped
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what are ur thoughts on the G6 or Huawei Mate 9?

The way you are talking you seem to have made up your mind already.
I find it odd though that I'm not experiencing any of the symptoms you mentioned.

My guy u do realize your 1 in the possible thousands of people that own this phone correct? Nobody's device is perfect. This is what I'm experiencing personally not the whole mi mix end user list. The only thing I have made up in my mind is that my phone isn't gonna last forever as my daily driver because of these issues so I'm seeking suitable alternatives before I make the jump.

Get the oneplus 5t, it will be coming soon and has a newer processor than the pixel xl. Or s8+ if you can get it for a decent price in whichever country you're from.

I've always rooted and modified whatever phone I've had and I can say I love miui it's smooth it's fast it has built in theme support which is what I mainly rooted for I'm sorry you've had issues u gave miui only 2 days before u jumped ship I would flash stock miui 9 from epicrom and see if issues resolve before downgrading to pixel XL....but with the recent software improvements and price drop essential phone should be a consideration before pixel XL it's newer it has SD 835 and screen size you're used to and at 449 u can still get 450 for mi mix easy and be out no money just my .02

gtshiftin6 said:
I've always rooted and modified whatever phone I've had and I can say I love miui it's smooth it's fast it has built in theme support which is what I mainly rooted for I'm sorry you've had issues u gave miui only 2 days before u jumped ship I would flash stock miui 9 from epicrom and see if issues resolve before downgrading to pixel XL....but with the recent software improvements and price drop essential phone should be a consideration before pixel XL it's newer it has SD 835 and screen size you're used to and at 449 u can still get 450 for mi mix easy and be out no money just my .02
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Appreciate the reply! I'll give this a shot, although I dont see why stock android wouldnt give me a better experience than MIUI. I used to love miui back in versions 6 & 7, and im not saying its bad now but i just had a bad experience with it on this device. but ill definitely give it another go!

rappa619 said:
Get the oneplus 5t, it will be coming soon and has a newer processor than the pixel xl. Or s8+ if you can get it for a decent price in whichever country you're from.
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Thanks ! im in the USA, but i was trying to stay around that 500-600 price point, the S8+ is kinda pushing it being as though its $724.99 over here. the one plus is definitely a contender for the future though

I would try a few other ROMs before getting a different phone. AICP has been rock solid for me now for months.

One issue your having is the custom roms - I tried them all and more or less they all get buggy over time [some more than others]. I run stock global and its has next to never crashed [fc'ed], call quality is fine and carrier permitting the notifications [network related ones] show up fast / local ones never get missed.
Two the pixle only has a camera that's better, screen is worse more or less - storage is A LOT worse and you don't even really get a more durable device.
Been using mine as my daily driver since I picked it up in late Jan 2017 - its really never failed me as long as I didn't go rooting / fiddling with things. That brings me back to something I mentioned awhile back in another post. Miui doesn't like to be tampered with - roms based on this tend to become unstable [been using miui roms since 2008 or so and the behavior has never really changed]. The non miui roms are stable enough until you go messing with them too [especially visually]. In addition to that many of the custom roms seem to leave things out, often little things but they add up to annoyances.
Its your money - but the Pixel isn't the one I would go for if your looking to replace this thing. Its not that good a phone. Look at the Mate 9 / 10 series or some other designs.

Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!

albertoduqe said:
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
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Mi mix 3 looking good.

james1089 said:
Mi mix 3 looking good.
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LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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albertoduqe said:
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
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Well, we have AOSiP that is going to be updated to oreo soon, and the new notification system in the MIUI developer rom made me have interest in MIUI again.
I agree that the development is poor (although the ones that do/did develop are/were awesome) and its sad to see developers leave but Im proud to own the device that pioneered the bezeless screen and even does it better than the modern flagships (and the MI MIX 2 ) and it is the most beautiful brick in the world.
My plan is to wait for oreo from AOSiP and meanwhile try the MIUI developer rom again with the new notification system (I cant afford a new phone so I have no other choice ).
About alternatives, I think the honor v10 is a great alternative (low price and great hardware and software) Although there is almost zero development in xda for this phone (because of the kirin processor) but EMUI is now great after the EMUI 5 update and huawei phones are a part of the first phones that got the oreo update so the support from huawei is good.
But In my opinion the best alternative is the OnePlus 5T and I think I dont have to explain why :laugh: .

Konstantine34 said:
LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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It does, but plenty of believable sites also mentioned this device.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/12/xiaomi-mi-mix-3s-alleged-back-cover-case-surface.html

Konstantine34 said:
LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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Have you seen the Samsung version of that concept? Same full screen and they're saying maybe out by 2019 Galaxy Z phone is what it may be called
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omerbagi10 said:
Well, we have AOSiP that is going to be updated to oreo soon, and the new notification system in the MIUI developer rom made me have interest in MIUI again.
I agree that the development is poor (although the ones that do/did develop are/were awesome) and its sad to see developers leave but Im proud to own the device that pioneered the bezeless screen and even does it better than the modern flagships (and the MI MIX 2 ) and it is the most beautiful brick in the world.
My plan is to wait for oreo from AOSiP and meanwhile try the MIUI developer rom again with the new notification system (I cant afford a new phone so I have no other choice ).
About alternatives, I think the honor v10 is a great alternative (low price and great hardware and software) Although there is almost zero development in xda for this phone (because of the kirin processor) but EMUI is now great after the EMUI 5 update and huawei phones are a part of the first phones that got the oreo update so the support from huawei is good.
But In my opinion the best alternative is the OnePlus 5T and I think I dont have to explain why :laugh: .
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Yeah more or less in the same spot. Still waiting and hoping for the guys behind AOSiP, AICP and Viper to bring Oreo to the Mix And maybe some new developer to get the phone and play around with it a bit.
The OP5T does look cool, probably the best value right now in the market. Maybe similar to Mix 2 although dev support is probably better for OP devices in general.
One thing about new notification shade: it is supposed to be there in the 7.12.8 beta (only china beta) , but it is not there in the same release of xiaomi.eu... Haven't tried official MIUI but I find it strange that it is not in the xiaomi.eu mod. Know something about it?
Searched miui forum and read changelogs and stuff and didn't actually find anything clear on the matter. And no official global beta since 7.5.25 I believe...

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It does, but plenty of believable sites also mentioned this device.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/12/xiaomi-mi-mix-3s-alleged-back-cover-case-surface.html
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Yeah, back cover seems OK but that full display screen is kinda fairy tale. I and some were expecting Mix 2 to come as +6,4'' screen with less bezels and it became worse. So I keep my expectation about the display screen a bit low.
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Have you seen the Samsung version of that concept? Same full screen and they're saying maybe out by 2019 Galaxy Z phone is what it may be called
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Didn't see it yet. Samsung perhaps does a bit better job over unlimited screen but they cut from edges and put it to top/bottom. Jeans' pockets are not capable to make them fit lol. What a PITA.
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Konstantine34 said:
Yeah, back cover seems OK but that full display screen is kinda fairy tale. I and some were expecting Mix 2 to come as +6,4'' screen with less bezels and it became worse. So I keep my expectation about the display screen a bit low.
Didn't see it yet. Samsung perhaps does a bit better job over unlimited screen but they cut from edges and put it to top/bottom. Jeans' pockets are not capable to make them fit lol. What a PITA.
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https://youtu.be/uuYcR7daXRs you can check it out here, it almost looks identical to what is seen in the mi mix video excluding the three cameras on back
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Upgrade to Oneplus 6

Oneplus 6 is there. I'm thinking of upgrading from my Huawei mate 9 to oneplus 6. I get tired of the little development of the Huawei community. Someone else goes to oneplus 6?

I dont believe the OP6 is on sale yet. Still I have decided to buy one as well. The mate 9 is great and all but I still can't get used to the UI and the development for this phone is pretty much absent.

Nope. Out of the box, they have way too many bugs, customer service is terrible.
In about a month or two after release, their phones aren't too bad, but, I don't like being
a beta tester. I've had 3 Huawei Phones. Mate 2,8,9. Out of the box, all have been perfect.
Plus, Oppo's cheaper cousin was suppose to be "less expensive" than all the other flagships.
They started out with a basic phone, good specs, low price. But, with each version they have
jacked up the price, and made them like every other overpriced flagship, "stylish, slim, colorful
& bla bla bla" Glass on the back? Why? Most people will put a case over it, to make sure it
doesn't break.
Nope, I don't go for Oppo's OnePlus with all their viral marketing BS.

The Huawei Mate 9 is my first Huawei device. Couldn't be happier. So much so that I got a P20 for my wife recently. If I had to replace the Mate 9 today I would take the P20 Pro.
I'm not into rooting or changing ROMs so the lack of a 'development community' doesn't bother me.
Before acquiring the Mate 9 I also considered the OnePlus 3T but the lack of local technical assistance was a big no no. If I can't buy it locally or get it repaired locally then I'm not interested.

I'm waiting for the next Mate.
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i will still go with huawei. especially with local service. amazing 1:1 exchange if your phone has hardware problems. About UI, seen OP5T from a friend it was fast yes. but too boring seeing it stock google. i realized that stock was just hype. and it was too boring to see. no exciting UI features.

What do you mean no development? We are the first phone to have trebble compatibility, and able to install pure android roms. Samsung s8 and oneplus 5 did not even bother to give trebble compatibility just so you will want to buy their new phone because it adds another feature. Oneplus 6 looks very similar to mate 9, camera probably isn't that much better either. Your point is invalid. Huawei have been improving tremendously and updates are more and more frequent.

arminbih said:
What do you mean no development? We are the first phone to have trebble compatibility, and able to install pure android roms. Samsung s8 and oneplus 5 did not even bother to give trebble compatibility just so you will want to buy their new phone because it adds another feature. Oneplus 6 looks very similar to mate 9, camera probably isn't that much better either. Your point is invalid. Huawei have been improving tremendously and updates are more and more frequent.
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Shoot, from what I discovered in 2014, when the "startup" OnePlus came along, all they are is a beta tester for the parent Oppo.
Once people found out that OnePlus is 100% owned by Oppo, who is owned by BBK electronics, their mask as a "poor lonely startup" got busted. Then, with the oneplus one, the distortions & out and out lies started to appear.
Stereo speakers that ended up being nothing more than twin MONO speakers, the "yellow stain" which they first said was because they set the screen color to a more warmer color. That turned out to be a lie, the screens were rushed to meet demand from the supplier and had not cured properly (I fixed mine by a combo of UV light & leaving it in the sunlight). Problems with
accessories missing or not working, having to pay shipping to get the phone and even worse if you had problems, sending it back!
Then, they came out with the OnePlus 2, which had the ill fated 810 chip, which was a problem for every manufacturer that tried to use it.
The OP3/3T was the better of the bunch, but then they went "cheap(er)" with the 5/5T and switched from an optical image
stabilized camera sensor, to the electronic image stabilized sensor, with a faster lens hoping to make up the difference.
It's "not bad" but not as good as the OIS on the 3/3T.
Then what do they do with the 6? Glass back? Why? To make it more trendy,hip,colorful & stylish? That just allows them
to jack up the price. And, if it has a glass back, why not throw in wireless charging?
Nope, got stung by the OnePlus hype in 2014...not going that route, again unless I can walk into a brick store buy it,
and take it back if it doesn't work.

I'm going to hold onto this phone for a while. I'm running OpenKirin, which while it has a few bugs, has substantially fewer than EMUI 8 (which prevented some apps from running correctly). I like having a headphone jack, I like the screen, I like the battery life, the camera is fantastic, I like not having a glass back. But I will probably bite the bullet and buy a Google phone next, so that I get updates without having to hack my phone. I'll buy a bunch of USB-C to 3.5mm dongles.

prestonmcafee said:
I'm going to hold onto this phone for a while. I'm running OpenKirin, which while it has a few bugs, has substantially fewer than EMUI 8 (which prevented some apps from running correctly). I like having a headphone jack, I like the screen, I like the battery life, the camera is fantastic, I like not having a glass back. But I will probably bite the bullet and buy a Google phone next, so that I get updates without having to hack my phone. I'll buy a bunch of USB-C to 3.5mm dongles.
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Well google some of the pixel problems you will be amazed. Bad screen, and mic not working after update are the most common.

When the Mate 11 (or whatever they call it) is announced, I start watching the price on the 10, just like I did when I had the 8, and then
10 was announced, the price on the 9 DROPPED. Once it hit the around $500 mark, I upgraded to the 9.

My Mate 9 was a fabulous device.
My OnePlus 5T is updated almost every week.
And it's VERY quick.
Huawei prices and the feeling of being dumped (I had to wait a year for updates!) It's a worrying trend
Am I going to wait for the Mate 20? We'll have to see.

Consumerism should be a disease.

Pixel 3
arminbih said:
Well google some of the pixel problems you will be amazed. Bad screen, and mic not working after update are the most common.
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I am hoping the Pixel 3 will be better. Meanwhile I am reasonably happy with the Mate 9.

I probably won't buy another Huawei -- their recent decision to stop providing bootloader unlock codes means they are too unfriendly to XDA. OnePlus gets a lot of XDA support, which is fantastic, but I don't want a device with a glass back. I drop my phone too often. (Spigen has been great on the Huawei.) It is too bad because the Mate 9 has great hardware, and a 3.5mm headphone jack.

weyrulez said:
i will still go with huawei. especially with local service. amazing 1:1 exchange if your phone has hardware problems. About UI, seen OP5T from a friend it was fast yes. but too boring seeing it stock google. i realized that stock was just hype. and it was too boring to see. no exciting UI features.
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what?? i dont know if your just shilling but none of what you said makes any sense. if your talking about the "optimizations" that hauwei implemnets, than maybe...... maybe! if your talking about the visual stuff....... then no!!! huawei could implement an OMS skin which could be easily disabled but instead royally bones the ui to look like ios.
android is about choice, if i want ios ill buy another iphone and just take whatever apple provides. huawei does great hardware but its software is just utter crap! its too bad they'll now be shunned in the US.

droidbot1337 said:
what?? i dont know if your just shilling but none of what you said makes any sense. if your talking about the "optimizations" that hauwei implemnets, than maybe...... maybe! if your talking about the visual stuff....... then no!!! huawei could implement an OMS skin which could be easily disabled but instead royally bones the ui to look like ios.
android is about choice, if i want ios ill buy another iphone and just take whatever apple provides. huawei does great hardware but its software is just utter crap! its too bad they'll now be shunned in the US.
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About OS? You can compare if you already used both. There's an option to enable app drawer on huawei phones. For OP5t's OS. Youll see how boring it is and how secure your credit card is.
We both have opinions. No one is wrong or right. It is up to you if you wanna prove you are better.

weyrulez said:
About OS? You can compare if you already used both. There's an option to enable app drawer on huawei phones. For OP5t's OS. Youll see how boring it is and how secure your credit card is.
We both have opinions. No one is wrong or right. It is up to you if you wanna prove you are better.
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what?? im going to assume that there is a language barrier here. if so, i apologize. the problem here is still that you seem to equate OOS with aosp which it is not. no one uses stock AOSP. even google doesnt use stock AOSP on the pixels. they use a modified pixel specific ROM.
all OEMs use AOSP and then modify it for their use. most OEMs now just add custom optimizations but leave the UI alone so the users can customize through OMS skins. Huawei still bastardizes this with their iOS like skin which is horrible. the battery optimizations are also a headache because they often kill important apps and the lockscreen mod is just terrible!
the huawei ROM has nothing when compared to an AOSP ROM such as AOSP extended, Paranoid Android or even LineageOS. these ROMs provide great features and endless security updates.
if you prefer the stock ROM thats great for you but it doesnt compare to a ROM that gives you options and full control of your device. i suggest you give AOSP Extended a try.

Interesting to read through the topic...Had multiple Samsungs in the past as my daily drivers but since I lost a couple of them due to emmc chip failures I moved away from the ugly overpriced Samsungs.
Everybody has different opinions and preferences, the times I was flashing custom Roms are over. For my work I need a reliable phone with good battery life at a descent price. The Mate 9 and Mate 10 are performing as expected without any problem both running stock Roms. Never had any issues after upgrades, even from Nougat to Oreo was painless. The Mate 9 from my wife did struggle with the upgrade from Nougat to Oreo. Had to factory reset this one to get it working correctly.
I can see a trend here, Huawei seems to go the same direction Samsung took, their devices getting more and more expensive and their customer service goes down as their popularity increases.

upgrading ...

What do you guys think of the xiaomi mi 8 ?
Would it be to crazy of he jump ?
I kind of like the idea , but I don't know , since I had never own a xiaomi phone ... Any one here had one before ? If so any help it's always appreciate

luisaet82 said:
What do you guys think of the xiaomi mi 8 ?
Would it be to crazy of he jump ?
I kind of like the idea , but I don't know , since I had never own a xiaomi phone ... Any one here had one before ? If so any help it's always appreciate
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Specs look good on the Mi 8... I just don't care for the blatant iPhone X copy, notch, lack of a headphone jack, or IP68. For a similar spec sheet, I liked the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s a lot better with the high screen to bezel ratio and no notch. I almost pulled the trigger on one but I ended up getting the S9+ for about the same price. I've been happy with it so far. The Axon 7 is going back to the factory for a repair.
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Gearhead_ENG said:
Specs look good on the Mi 8... I just don't care for the blatant iPhone X copy, notch, lack of a headphone jack, or IP68. For a similar spec sheet, I liked the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s a lot better with the high screen to bezel ratio and no notch. I almost pulled the trigger on one but I ended up getting the S9+ for about the same price. I've been happy with it so far. The Axon 7 is going back to the factory for a repair.
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What do you do to the axon 7 ? Is ZTE still working ?

It still works but the battery life is starting to degrade and the charging port is loose after 1.5 years. ZTE is replacing it under warranty. It'll make a good backup or media phone.
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What do you do to the axon 7 ? Is ZTE still working ?
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I wouldn't get the mi8, lacks features compared to the Axon 7 although newer in others and faster.
If you want an all around better device get the S9+ or HTC U12+.

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I wouldn't get the mi8, lacks features compared to the Axon 7 although newer in others and faster.
If you want an all around better device get the S9+ or HTC U12+.
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They are both around the 1000 DLS and I'm not planning to spend that money on a phone again not when i pay 350 for and amazing phone like the axon 7 ... Im not sure wtf to do looks like I'm gonna keep the phone until it just dies ???

They are both around the 1000 DLS and I'm not planning to spend that money on a phone again not when i pay 350 for and amazing phone like the axon 7 ... Im not sure wtf to do looks like I'm gonna keep the phone until it just dies ???

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I wouldn't get the mi8, lacks features compared to the Axon 7 although newer in others and faster.
If you want an all around better device get the S9+ or HTC U12+.
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it's crazy that if ZTE just re-released the Axon 7 with an upgraded Sd845 it would be the only phone (including announced unreleased) that suits my media demands of 1440p amoled, stereo front speakers and hifi DAC working in AOSP (for hifi when headset mic is enabled). They should just do it if they get back to business, LG did it to the V30 to V35.
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luisaet82 said:
They are both around the 1000 DLS and I'm not planning to spend that money on a phone again not when i pay 350 for and amazing phone like the axon 7 ... Im not sure wtf to do looks like I'm gonna keep the phone until it just dies ???
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Yeah I agree man, unfortunately only these two fit the spec list and are wayyyy too expensive
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it's crazy that if ZTE just re-released the Axon 7 with an upgraded Sd845 it would be the only phone (including announced unreleased) that suits my media demands of 1440p amoled, stereo front speakers and hifi DAC working in AOSP (for hifi when headset mic is enabled). They should just do it if they get back to business, LG did it to the V30 to V35.
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This would be phenomenal.
A bigger battery, better camera, ane IPXX protection should be possible as well, then it would be the perfect device even if they kept everything else the same really.

All the Axon 9 needs is the Axon 7s with SD845 and IR blaster. Maybe a better camera but it already is improved over the Axon 7.

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This would be phenomenal.
A bigger battery, better camera, ane IPXX protection should be possible as well, then it would be the perfect device even if they kept everything else the same really.
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Perfect phone is a really hard ideal to fit for everyone. For me personally none of those are needed as I've resigned myself to the fact a single all purpose perfect device is impossible. I have a compact phone for primary general use and a secondary media phone as a media device to complement each other.
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Perfect phone is a really hard ideal to fit for everyone. For me personally none of those are needed as I've resigned myself to the fact a single all purpose perfect device is impossible. I have a compact phone for primary general use and a secondary media phone as a media device to complement each other.
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I understand your way of thinking, hope this works for you, I can't imagine carrying two phones myself.
In my own case, the Axon 7 suits all my daily needs to be honest, so I could call it a perfect device.
It's just starting to age when compared to newer devices, that is all.
A couple of current flagships would fit my needs to upgrade (S9+,U12+), but the prices are way too high.
Unfortunately, no equivalent of the Axon 7 exists in the price range the Axon 7 released, which is a big shame.
Just gotta hang on to it for now, or bite the bullet and pay the price premium if you really need to upgrade for whatever reason. :crying:

Infy_AsiX said:
it's crazy that if ZTE just re-released the Axon 7 with an upgraded Sd845 it would be the only phone (including announced unreleased) that suits my media demands of 1440p amoled, stereo front speakers and hifi DAC working in AOSP (for hifi when headset mic is enabled). They should just do it if they get back to business, LG did it to the V30 to V35.
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They were actually, well it was a concept, but to me it looked like the real axon 9. It had the front facing speakers and had a cool name "ZTE Iceberg".
There are renders of the phone on the web, give it a search

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I understand your way of thinking, hope this works for you, I can't imagine carrying two phones myself.
In my own case, the Axon 7 suits all my daily needs to be honest, so I could call it a perfect device.
It's just starting to age when compared to newer devices, that is all.
A couple of current flagships would fit my needs to upgrade (S9+,U12+), but the prices are way too high.
Unfortunately, no equivalent of the Axon 7 exists in the price range the Axon 7 released, which is a big shame.
Just gotta hang on to it for now, or bite the bullet and pay the price premium if you really need to upgrade for whatever reason. :crying:
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Having more than one device is just an extra step to getting more than just one can offer. As my old Z3C still does music well but not as well as A7 it suits on the go environments where quality is lost to the environment anyway. With custom updates it's still fast for general use and I much prefer it's form and ergonomic factor. The A7 is stored away in a bag until more immersive media is used. For going out without a bag the A7 is left at home. I guess doubling up my Z3C's purpose as a bike computer is part of the reason for keeping it around too. In fact I've got another second half-broken Z3C with both batteries modded removable to also suit a second sim card, it's just like carrying spare powerbanks really. Of course I could swap them both for the A7 dual sim, but where there's a gain there's always a loss.
Aged in what respect? I can only really think of SD820 performance as behind. Pushing the boundary with various mods like disabling thermal throttling and such I've managed tweaked PUBGM for 1080p high settings >30fps which is by all intents above expected average and desirable. Of course upgraded better chipsets will pull more but not too much more in a S835 and only more noticeably on a S845.
Well if current generation flagships suit you but not in price the only issue is to wait. Or you could join the buy, use and sell market cycle to get it now and not necessarily cost more.
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They were actually, well it was a concept, but to me it looked like the real axon 9. It had the front facing speakers and had a cool name "ZTE Iceberg".
There are renders of the phone on the web, give it a search
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I think you're mixing the rumoured Axon 9 leak where there's no stereo speaker and the dual notch Iceberg. I think they did re-release the Axon 7 with a S821 as a Chinese government model though. Getting to the point where they could save costs on redeveloping a new model and just reuse a successful design with a new chipset would be a nice move. However they'd have to be sure the old design is actually successful and popular enough to drive sales demand again, LG evidently thinks they hit something nice with the V30. Brings up the thought, why not sell updated chipsets to consumers that could be installed into old models, maybe through service centres and provide new firmware support. Guess that's too ambitious and consumer friendly an idea.

Been thinking about moto z2 play or force was given a old moto z play by a friend to play with for a while.......