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So I've been investigating into some recent issues I've been having with apps not staying open i.e. couldn't even keep one app open in the background, and home would reload every time I visited it from anything but the lightest apps. I didn't want to try any RAM Hack ROMs because I run 3D games quite a lot.
I'm using Blue Magic and I found out that both Swype and HTC Touch Input use 12-18MB of RAM even when in the background (according to Astro Process Manager). Since disabling them I've found things to be much snappier. I barely used them anyway. Has anyone else disabled soft keyboards for performance reasons?
don't mean to be an a$$ but i think most people know this, I for one, have my android keyboard set to ignored because i always use it, and have other keyboards disabled, as i don't use them, and i use ram hack, and i have a happy 45-50mb ram when everything is closed, i also have swap, and for the hell of it i've tested how many apps i can have open at one point, and they are news and weather, browser, opera, market, world war, phone, messaging, google talk, all of that open, and switching in between, none of them ever restarted, of course my phone was a little slower, but well thats the price you pay, our hardware is sorta outdated, but if you know how to boost it, it will help a lot, i got a 96swap
You have a point but I would never have thought that the keyboards would be such RAM hogs, especially when in the background, and it helps me a lot because I prefer to run without swap. So I thought I'd mention it in case people who don't really use them but haven't disabled them would like to give it a try.
CompactDstrxion said:
So I've been investigating into some recent issues I've been having with apps not staying open i.e. couldn't even keep one app open in the background, and home would reload every time I visited it from anything but the lightest apps. I didn't want to try any RAM Hack ROMs because I run 3D games quite a lot.
I'm using Blue Magic and I found out that both Swype and HTC Touch Input use 12-18MB of RAM even when in the background (according to Astro Process Manager). Since disabling them I've found things to be much snappier. I barely used them anyway. Has anyone else disabled soft keyboards for performance reasons?
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Add up all the memory reported as used by astro. Compare that with the ACTUAL memory. Notice something funny about it? More memory in use than total memory?
Congrats. You have just become acquainted with VIRTUAL MEMORY. (not to be confused with swap space, which is very different).
I never noticed my G1 being any slower with the HTC IME running.
if there was a way to permanently disable Google Enhanced Search and Quick Search Box, that'll be another 10mb of Ram easily.
I looked at my free RAM and out of 1 GB I only have around 350 mb free!
That and I disabled ALL widgets!
I looked at running apps with advanced task manager and there is all of this crapware like Pulse etc running. I cleared memory and got some back but not much. As soon as I turn the tab back on all of the junk comes back and drains my battery 10% overnight with wifi OFF on a wifi only tab.
It is ridiculous to only have less than half of my RAM available. On my phone I lost half of that to bloat too. I bet if this tab had 2GB of RAM they would fill 1.75 GB with crap.
What gives? Why do they insist on doing this and not letting ME choose what I want running on MY tablet? Can I get rid of or freeze all of this junk?
They are just cached and automatically freed up when an application needs more RAM. But I do agree that Andriod does a very aggressive caching even on apps never used. Why not remove it with TB?
Free ram has no purpose. It will take and free RAM as it sees fit. If you force it to use less ran, it will run slower. Let it manage the ram itself, this is how Unix has worked since the start and it's working perfectly fine.
TarjeiB said:
Free ram has no purpose. It will take and free RAM as it sees fit. If you force it to use less ran, it will run slower. Let it manage the ram itself, this is how Unix has worked since the start and it's working perfectly fine.
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+ 1 on this. It's seriously easy to get a bit neurotic about system resources. If your tab is running fine just enjoy it and don't sweat the numbers.
TarjeiB said:
Free ram has no purpose. It will take and free RAM as it sees fit. If you force it to use less ran, it will run slower. Let it manage the ram itself, this is how Unix has worked since the start and it's working perfectly fine.
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Yeah but I don't need Pulse, buddies now, family locator, Samsung game hub blah blah running and eating up CPU and battery either (as well as internal flash memory). I will never use that crap so I might as well get it gone. I am not sure why it opens stuff up that I never use or never have.
Is there a list somewhere on what can be nixed and what can't?
I would like to bring this thread up again.
I do have the same problem as DaveC1964.
All I want is a "clean looking" tablet without Google+, Pulse, SocialHub,GameHub etc.
I also hate that those apps connect to the web. I know you can disable that, but I want them gone.
I only use the internet browser, youtube and pdf app.
How do I uninstall those preinstalled annoyences?
Is there a way to do this without a custom ROM?
Thank you
you'll need to root your tab and use titanium back to remove the bloatware. be careful with what you remove though as it may affect other apps. always make a backup.
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Best you initially just freeze the offending apps with Titanium Backup instead of uninstalling/deleting them right away - that way you can always re-enable them if your system should become unstable or start acting up.
freewilli said:
I would like to bring this thread up again.
I do have the same problem as DaveC1964.
All I want is a "clean looking" tablet without Google+, Pulse, SocialHub,GameHub etc.
I also hate that those apps connect to the web. I know you can disable that, but I want them gone.
I only use the internet browser, youtube and pdf app.
How do I uninstall those preinstalled annoyences?
Is there a way to do this without a custom ROM?
Thank you
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As long as you do not run the apps and dosen't setup accounts they are not accessing the web i think.
I love Pulse!
Thank you for your answers.
I am going to root my tab and use titanium backup afterwards.
Startup Manager
you can easily sort out all the bloatware, unneeded startup apps and make your tab fast I've tested it does a great job
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImltb2JsaWZlLnN0YXJ0dXBtYW5hZ2VyLmZ1bGwiXQ..
I'm looking for an app that helps kinda show off the S-pen for the Note 3 whether it's games or features. I also am looking for an app that helps stop all services or apps that aren't necessary to run the device when I turn the screen off. Something just to save battery ya know?
buckeyestilidie said:
I'm looking for an app that helps kinda show off the S-pen for the Note 3 whether it's games or features. I also am looking for an app that helps stop all services or apps that aren't necessary to run the device when I turn the screen off. Something just to save battery ya know?
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All the apps that feature the S Pen come preinstalled, I haven't found any games that will show it off or really benefit from its use however that doesn't mean there isn't one. There are similar non-Samsung note taking apps that have handwriting mode which allows you to use the S Pen but nothing really special other than MindBoard.
As for battery Greenify is a great app management app. With root and Xposed framework you can greenify system apps. Basically this is a hibernating app that allows you to hibernate apps at command or automatically with various settings based on your needs. The free version doesn't require root or Xposed, and the paid version is only a dollar or two. I would recommend this over a task manager/killer because it works around Android's behavior of restarting apps that get force closed.
Had my S7 Edge for just over a week and absolutely love the phone.
However, gaming is a massive disappointment. Real Racing 3 is often stuttering to the point where it is unplayable.
Fortunately I know why; the RAM usage is hovering around 70-80% seemingly not leaving enough for the game.
Once I close a handful of running apps, the game is smooth for about 2 minutes which is when the apps restart.
Some of the most common apps continuously running/restarting:
Chrome
Word
One Drive
360 Security
Internet (can't delete)
Weather (can't delete)
+ loads of default apps which I am not familiar with. Btw - my phone was not infested with lots of bloatware.
I could delete more apps, but I installed them because I need them. Surely that defeats the point of the phone.
Many apps are advertised as being able to shut down unwanted stuff, but there is no option to permanently disable system apps or event prevent user installed apps restarting. Is rooting the phone my only option?
What version do you have? I have G935F and RR3 is running like a dream on mine with multiple apps open/in ram
I have the same version. How much ram to you usually have free?
Haven't encountered that issue during my usage of the S7 edge, so it could be a software issue. In case you want to disable unwanted apps without rooting, you can try the Debloater tool. Basically, it disables apps, so that they won't run in the background or be accessible at all - it removes them from the app drawer too. You'd have to be careful if there are some services you actually use and don't want to disable them inadvertedly.
Which update is running on your s7?
I have usually 1.6gb ram free before I start playing games...during game play it drops to 1gb ram free....baseband is G935FXXU1APD9. Got the update a week ago
termdj said:
I have usually 1.6gb ram free before I start playing games...during game play it drops to 1gb ram free....baseband is G935FXXU1APD9. Got the update a week ago
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Sounds promising. My baseband is G935FXXU1APD1. What exactly does this new update do? There is not description of it for some reason:
https://samsung-firmware.org/download/Galaxy-S7-edge/7u3f/XFA/G935FXXU1APDH/G935FOJV1APD8/
Uninstall 360 Security ASAP. It's known to be adware, and the app in general is complete garbage. Why on earth would you install it? Don't install any anti virus crap.
Also, the latest version of Pushbullet has a bug that rapes the CPU, so uninstall it too for now, if you have it installed.
root and then run the debloat script. job done
termdj said:
I have usually 1.6gb ram free before I start playing games...during game play it drops to 1gb ram free....baseband is G935FXXU1APD9. Got the update a week ago
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J.Biden said:
Uninstall 360 Security ASAP. It's known to be adware, and the app in general is complete garbage. Why on earth would you install it? Don't install any anti virus crap.
Also, the latest version of Pushbullet has a bug that rapes the CPU, so uninstall it too for now, if you have it installed.
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Thought it might be good to have extra security and it was a top rated app. I guess the default antivirus is sufficient - deleted!
To be honest it didn't consume too much ram - even with that uninstalled it still consumes 70+ %
No pushbullet installed.
Got the EZ Package Disabler which seems to be able to get rid of any app - user- or factory installed - so I just need to figure out which ones are safe to get rid of.
Problem is that I need some of the apps - if I could just prevent them from autostarting rather than deleting
Smartphones these days are Super Fast and powerful, At least on paper! Never let your smartphones down in front of others. Your smartphones can perform better than you expect, even without Rooting it! Excited? Well without wasting your time, Let’s start!
Remove your Bloatware
Well, bloatware is common with almost all smartphones. Even Redmi devices packs with hell tons of bloat in it! If your phone has RAM of 3GB or above it’s okay. But if it has 2GB or 1GB of RAM, pain! There are many tutorials available showing how to remove bloat on Any android without root. But it’s sort of risky if you are a noob. But the good thing is you can remove the bloat in most of the android devices, I mean manufacturers are giving the option to uninstall unnecessary bloat. But some Google apps and brand based apps can’t be uninstalled by the way! The only thing you can do is just disabling them. Open settings, open application settings and disable unwanted apps. By doing this you can also save lots of battery.
2. RECENT
The Recent feature in Android is everyone’s favorite. As Android is upgrading Recents were also upgraded. The latest version Android 7 (Nougat) added a new feature to it’s recent. Yes, it’s multi-window mode. Apart from that, even you got 2 or 3 gigs of RAM while multi-tasking phone slow down and puts pressure on battery and phone tends to heat up! To avoid this just clear the apps after locking your device. Yes, Android system knows when to stop background activities but clearing tasks are necessary.
3. Managing Internal Storage
In the quarter two of 2016, the entire game of smartphones is changed. Brands started launching phones with a minimum of 2GB of RAM and 16GB of on boot storage. Well, it’s decent enough for an average user, But the hybrid slots. Okay, now let’s get to the point! The major important thing of Android is it’s internal storage obviously. It’s a physical memory where users can store all their files. Better buy a phone with a minimum of 16gigs of ROM. So that you can manage it for years. Store what you want in internal storage. I mean just keep the files which you access daily! Better spend 50–100 bugs and buy an OTG-Cable and an extra 4 or 8 GB pen drive. Store all your movies, TV shows kind of stuff in it and you can use the OTG on the go.
5. REMOVE UNNECESSARY WIDGETS FROM HOMESCREEN.
Android home screen, extremely customizable! Yes, we need to utilize that! But up to some extent. Widgets slow down your device. Now you may think, widgets? Really? Yes. Widgets occupy the space of Random access memory i.e., RAM and tasks in the background. So it’s better to use as many fewer widgets as possible. In my opinion, one clock widget and a search widget is enough. Anyways you can access Google Assistant on the go! So search widget is optional too.
6. Don’t fall into AUTO-SYNC! It’s a trap.
Almost every student or teenager is a social freak. Previously only Facebook, WhatsApp are on the play. But now Instagram, Snapchat, Gmail, Yahoo, Twitter etc, are added to the list. It’s the very good thing that you are aware of all social media. But you are not aware of Auto – Sync!! Auto-Sync kills your smartphone’s performance and it effects a lot on battery too! Let me explain if you are connected to many accounts on your smartphone. All those accounts will be saved in Accounts section in settings. But if the auto-sync is turned on, it keeps on syncing your accounts which reduce the performance of your Android device. So disable it and make your Android fast. Turning off Auto-sync saves lots of your battery life too.
7. Stop using Cleaning Apps like Clean Master and all.
Lot’s of famous technology sites say that use Du booster or Use clean Master for boosting your Android device. But, no use! Rather they will kill your device. What happens is in the process of boosting, those cleaners will kill your apps in the background, So apps take lots of time to open. It affects Random access memory and put pressure on battery. It’s better to keep your device away from that kind of cleaning apps. Here is a detailed article by our Team Member Dinesh.
Does Usage of System Cleaning Apps Really Increase Device’s Performance?
8. Using a right Launcher!
Sometimes your device may lag a lot! Even after you follow all the above steps, then it’s time to change your Launcher. If you are a third party launcher user, this happens to you. Shift to Nova Launcher or ASAP launcher. As this kind of launchers doesn’t consume your RAM. My suggestion is to go with nova. You can customize it as you want.
So these are some simple steps in which you can make your smartphone faster. Well, that pretty much it for this small article.
TechRagon said:
Smartphones these days are Super Fast and powerful, At least on paper! Never let your smartphones down in front of others. Your smartphones can perform better than you expect, even without Rooting it! Excited? Well without wasting your time, Let’s start!
Remove your Bloatware
Well, bloatware is common with almost all smartphones. Even Redmi devices packs with hell tons of bloat in it! If your phone has RAM of 3GB or above it’s okay. But if it has 2GB or 1GB of RAM, pain! There are many tutorials available showing how to remove bloat on Any android without root. But it’s sort of risky if you are a noob. But the good thing is you can remove the bloat in most of the android devices, I mean manufacturers are giving the option to uninstall unnecessary bloat. But some Google apps and brand based apps can’t be uninstalled by the way! The only thing you can do is just disabling them. Open settings, open application settings and disable unwanted apps. By doing this you can also save lots of battery.
2. RECENT
The Recent feature in Android is everyone’s favorite. As Android is upgrading Recents were also upgraded. The latest version Android 7 (Nougat) added a new feature to it’s recent. Yes, it’s multi-window mode. Apart from that, even you got 2 or 3 gigs of RAM while multi-tasking phone slow down and puts pressure on battery and phone tends to heat up! To avoid this just clear the apps after locking your device. Yes, Android system knows when to stop background activities but clearing tasks are necessary.
3. Managing Internal Storage
In the quarter two of 2016, the entire game of smartphones is changed. Brands started launching phones with a minimum of 2GB of RAM and 16GB of on boot storage. Well, it’s decent enough for an average user, But the hybrid slots. Okay, now let’s get to the point! The major important thing of Android is it’s internal storage obviously. It’s a physical memory where users can store all their files. Better buy a phone with a minimum of 16gigs of ROM. So that you can manage it for years. Store what you want in internal storage. I mean just keep the files which you access daily! Better spend 50–100 bugs and buy an OTG-Cable and an extra 4 or 8 GB pen drive. Store all your movies, TV shows kind of stuff in it and you can use the OTG on the go.
5. REMOVE UNNECESSARY WIDGETS FROM HOMESCREEN.
Android home screen, extremely customizable! Yes, we need to utilize that! But up to some extent. Widgets slow down your device. Now you may think, widgets? Really? Yes. Widgets occupy the space of Random access memory i.e., RAM and tasks in the background. So it’s better to use as many fewer widgets as possible. In my opinion, one clock widget and a search widget is enough. Anyways you can access Google Assistant on the go! So search widget is optional too.
6. Don’t fall into AUTO-SYNC! It’s a trap.
Almost every student or teenager is a social freak. Previously only Facebook, WhatsApp are on the play. But now Instagram, Snapchat, Gmail, Yahoo, Twitter etc, are added to the list. It’s the very good thing that you are aware of all social media. But you are not aware of Auto – Sync!! Auto-Sync kills your smartphone’s performance and it effects a lot on battery too! Let me explain if you are connected to many accounts on your smartphone. All those accounts will be saved in Accounts section in settings. But if the auto-sync is turned on, it keeps on syncing your accounts which reduce the performance of your Android device. So disable it and make your Android fast. Turning off Auto-sync saves lots of your battery life too.
7. Stop using Cleaning Apps like Clean Master and all.
Lot’s of famous technology sites say that use Du booster or Use clean Master for boosting your Android device. But, no use! Rather they will kill your device. What happens is in the process of boosting, those cleaners will kill your apps in the background, So apps take lots of time to open. It affects Random access memory and put pressure on battery. It’s better to keep your device away from that kind of cleaning apps. Here is a detailed article by our Team Member Dinesh.
Does Usage of System Cleaning Apps Really Increase Device’s Performance?
8. Using a right Launcher!
Sometimes your device may lag a lot! Even after you follow all the above steps, then it’s time to change your Launcher. If you are a third party launcher user, this happens to you. Shift to Nova Launcher or ASAP launcher. As this kind of launchers doesn’t consume your RAM. My suggestion is to go with nova. You can customize it as you want.
So these are some simple steps in which you can make your smartphone faster. Well, that pretty much it for this small article.
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can i remove the blootware with out root? i'm not willing taking the risk of root
TechRagon said:
2. RECENT
The Recent feature in Android is everyone’s favorite. As Android is upgrading Recents were also upgraded. The latest version Android 7 (Nougat) added a new feature to it’s recent. Yes, it’s multi-window mode. Apart from that, even you got 2 or 3 gigs of RAM while multi-tasking phone slow down and puts pressure on battery and phone tends to heat up! To avoid this just clear the apps after locking your device. Yes, Android system knows when to stop background activities but clearing tasks are necessary.
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That's the biggest bull**** I've recently read. Before you will write any guide, make a research first.
Apps left in recents doesn't drain your battery moreover that behavior saves battery life, because CPU doesn't have to load app from internal storage to RAM over and over again when you kill it.
kubapl66 said:
That's the biggest bull**** I've recently read. Before you will write any guide, make a research first.
Apps left in recents doesn't drain your battery moreover that behavior saves battery life, because CPU doesn't have to load app from internal storage to RAM over and over again when you kill it.
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True true!!
One little suggestion. Use Flick launcher instead of Nova.
kubapl66 said:
That's the biggest bull**** I've recently read. Before you will write any guide, make a research first.
Apps left in recents doesn't drain your battery moreover that behavior saves battery life, because CPU doesn't have to load app from internal storage to RAM over and over again when you kill it.
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100% agreed!