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As always Snapdragon version never available in India officially. Only octa is available.
Is octa one not good enough than snapdragon ? Is that waste of money to buy?
Please share your views.
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Mandeep148 said:
As always Snapdragon version never available in India officially. Only octa is available.
Is octa one not good enough than snapdragon ? Is that waste of money to buy?
Please share your views.
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No.
It outperforms Snapdragon in benchmarks CPU-wise. In GPU, Adreno has more raw speed than Mali though.
It also comes with a higher Linux kernel version for all that it matters, it implements global task scheduling which in theory is better compared to hotplug that is used for Krait. The big.LITTLE architecture isn't a bad idea but the S4 Exynos that showcased it had it wrong... it was not fully functional thanks to a hardware issue.
Battery is in the same ballpark. I get 6-7 hrs of screen on time.
You miss a better modem-SoC integration since the Intel modem in the G900H uses more power compared to the Qcom.
There are only 4 disadvantages vs the Snapdragon:
- Lower GPU performance in benchmarks, in game it's not perceptible.
- More power consumption from modem it seems, blame Intel. It hasn't been a problem for me so far and I call a lot - the battery is good enough.
- No LTE. Major point for anyone living in LTE-enabled countries.
- No custom ROM/Kernel development yet. Thanks to Samsung's previous behavior they alienated devs for Exynos SoCs... don't bet on getting a custom ROM or kernel anytime soon.
Beware of people telling you that Snapdragon is better just because Exynos doesn't has LTE, in most part they both have their strong points and weak points.
Snapdragon is a more proven, supported chipset. Exynos is more bleeding edge but much less supported. It doesn't helps that it's Samsung-only and it's region limited.
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No.
It outperforms Snapdragon in benchmarks CPU-wise. In GPU, Adreno has more raw speed than Mali though.
It also comes with a higher Linux kernel version for all that it matters, it implements global task scheduling which in theory is better compared to hotplug that is used for Krait. The big.LITTLE architecture isn't a bad idea but the S4 Exynos that showcased it had it wrong... it was not fully functional thanks to a hardware issue.
Battery is in the same ballpark. I get 6-7 hrs of screen on time.
You miss a better modem-SoC integration since the Intel modem in the G900H uses more power compared to the Qcom.
There are only 4 disadvantages vs the Snapdragon:
- Lower GPU performance in benchmarks, in game it's not perceptible.
- More power consumption from modem it seems, blame Intel. It hasn't been a problem for me so far and I call a lot - the battery is good enough.
- No LTE. Major point for anyone living in LTE-enabled countries.
- No custom ROM/Kernel development yet. Thanks to Samsung's previous behavior they alienated devs for Exynos SoCs... don't bet on getting a custom ROM or kernel anytime soon.
Beware of people telling you that Snapdragon is better just because Exynos doesn't has LTE, in most part they both have their strong points and weak points.
Snapdragon is a more proven, supported chipset. Exynos is more bleeding edge but much less supported. It doesn't helps that it's Samsung-only and it's region limited.
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thanx for useful info bro,
so it have lower GPU score, is that also can differentiate or noticeable in UI side, i mean i am going to buy s5 only because of software and its RICH Genius features, i dont feel much about its design, and its expensive, i just want lag free device, i know some times lags are common in android, but thats fiar, due to exynos i will feel lag than snap ?
i hope you understand.
Mandeep148 said:
thanx for useful info bro,
so it have lower GPU score, is that also can differentiate or noticeable in UI side, i mean i am going to buy s5 only because of software and its RICH Genius features, i dont feel much about its design, and its expensive, i just want lag free device, i know some times lags are common in android, but thats fiar, due to exynos i will feel lag than snap ?
i hope you understand.
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In theory the Exynos variant does not have hotplug lag, it should have been smoother just from that.
The GPU is powerful enough to render the UI with zero problems, the only places where you'll see a difference is in games with OpenGL ES 3.0, it's not noticeable though. Despite the GPU being slightly slower I get 38,000+ in Antutu constantly (it uses ES 2.0 for the graphics test).
In practice, well, it's Touchwiz, it lags... :laugh: it's something you end up accepting because of the extra features and benefits that the software gives you. Coming from a Nexus 5 it's very obvious that there are parts where the software is unoptimized and it shouldn't lag at all... but it does.
Touchwiz is just heavier than stock, it's not the most optimized software in the world and no scripts will remedy that (we would need smali or xposed edits...).
I'd recommend you to visit a carrier store or somewhere that has a device where you can test games or benchmarks and see it.
And if you *really* need a lagless device, get anything that doesn't has Touchwiz... Nexus 5 is extremely smooth.
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In theory the Exynos variant does not have hotplug lag, it should have been smoother just from that.
The GPU is powerful enough to render the UI with zero problems, the only places where you'll see a difference is in games with OpenGL ES 3.0, it's not noticeable though. Despite the GPU being slightly slower I get 38,000+ in Antutu constantly (it uses ES 2.0 for the graphics test).
In practice, well, it's Touchwiz, it lags... :laugh: it's something you end up accepting because of the extra features and benefits that the software gives you. Coming from a Nexus 5 it's very obvious that there are parts where the software is unoptimized and it shouldn't lag at all... but it does.
Touchwiz is just heavier than stock, it's not the most optimized software in the world and no scripts will remedy that (we would need smali or xposed edits...).
I'd recommend you to visit a carrier store or somewhere that has a device where you can test games or benchmarks and see it.
And if you *really* need a lagless device, get anything that doesn't has Touchwiz... Nexus 5 is extremely smooth.
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ah you really helped me. :good: and sorry for disturbing, actually i like samsung touchwiz, yea nexus 5 is wow phone in terms of UI smoothness and good stocky framework works well. but in samsung i like crowdyness and colourfull and nature, i never get bor
i hope exynos s5 will not disappoint me
thanks again bro ..
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ah you really helped me. :good: and sorry for disturbing, actually i like samsung touchwiz, yea nexus 5 is wow phone in terms of UI smoothness and good stocky framework works well. but in samsung i like crowdyness and colourfull and nature, i never get bor
i hope exynos s5 will not disappoint me
thanks again bro ..
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If you have used a Samsung phone in the past you will be accustomed to the lag and you'll enjoy the much improved Touchwiz.
I really hated it on the S3/N2, slightly disliked it on the S4/N3 but ended up liking the S5 version
Battery life and camera are really good.
Performance wise no games should lag or be a problem (only Xcom has managed to drop frames but it's the most demanding game right now).
Hope you enjoy your phone.
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First i bought the H version of the device. Was not happy with the lack of support from devs. Now i own the F version, and already have the wide range of custom FW available. So if you are the flashing geek, than definitely stick to the Snap device
Hi, I'm new in this forum. I need help. I bought a Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 (SM-P900). I know it has two quadcores (one of 1.9 GHz and another of 1.3 GHz) but I think it only use one of them, because it lags a lot when I run games and another apps like chrome. Also when I run benchmarks, they only recognize the 1.9 GHz one. I tested Asphalt 8 and it runs at 20 fps or less. Also it lags when I pass pages in S Note. There's a way to speed up and take advantage of both CPUs? Thanks!
S Note always seems to lag (I don't use it, but others report it.) The app isn't optimized for 12.2". Try Lecture Notes.
Benchmarks see only one CPU because that's their limitation. They couldn't detect the second one even of it was running laps around the first.
Cores don't stack. So even if you have 4 1.9Ghz cores, it doesn't become 7.6Ghz. This is why the amount of Ghz matters so much for gaming and heavy apps. The Exynos is designed for multitasking, not heavy processing(games). That's what Snapdragon is for.
Next is the Mali GPU. It's weaker than the Adreno and doesn't handle 2K very well. Particularly in heavy games. Oh it does Candy Crush just fine , but it's like Intel HD vs Nvidia in terms of the more serious work.
If gaming was a priority, you should've gone for the P905 with the Snapdragon 800 & Adreno GPU.
You can try to get rid of most of the bloatware, that should at least speed it up a bit. Also replace the launcher with Nova or Apex, they use less system resources. (60MB RAM vs 800MB.) You can also try a factory reset, see if that helps.
Maybe someone else with a p900 can tell us if they, too, have the same framerate issue. (I've got the P905.)
The Note 3 N9005 and N900 editions have the same hardware as the P905 and P900 respectively. The N900 with the same Exynos/Mali has the same issues with lag in Gaming as the P900 does.
S Note can't be helped, that's Samsung's fault, bad coding.
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Root it and pick one of the stock based roms because they are the only ones with kernel development. I'm on CM 11 because I love aosp but I'm living with the built in kernel. That's the best you're going to get as far as I can see, but there are a lot of really smart folks around here.
Thanks for replying. Your answers helped me
Asphalt 8 has graphics settings where you can change the level of detail. Change the settings to low (which still looks good) and play is completely smooth.
Regarding optimizing general performance, I'd stick with Samsung stock roms as the gpu driver is better than cm based roms. Change the kernel and overclock the cpu and gpu to 2GHz and 667MHz respectively. Use the synapse app to undervolt the cpu and gpu at the highest frequency steps, necessary to avoid thermal limits which drops the clock speeds. With these settings I get 41000 on Antutu and 996/3000+ on Geekbench 3. Very smooth performance for my tablet.
hi guys new to the forum hope you can help..im about to buy the wifi version but because of the lag im tempted with the lte now..my question is a do a lot of art work .sketching etc and recently artrage was released for android..would you say the snapdragon would be better than the exynos version for brush lag etc .I cant seem to get a good answer to this question ..the note 12.2 is a great size and much lighter than a laptop and reat battery life..
sorry wrong forum
I've switched from those S7 and Note 5 ports which lagged and had big delays opening apps to JDC OptimizedCM13 ROM which has basically no lag whatsoever. I read around that the kernel is what controls the CPU but the one I'm using (default one with the ROM, alucard kernel) doesn't support over clocking. What I'm trying to do is disabled core 3 and 4 to make a dual core processor but over clock the first two. With PC gaming people have always recommended fewer faster cores rather than more slower cores. Same with the Apple iPhones, it makes sense that fewer very fast cores would make the UI much smoother and from benchmarks it looks like Android doesn't use that many cores too often. I'm not doing any gaming, just light tasks only so I'm trying to save a little bit of battery but also make my phone smoother.
My specs are i9505 with Optimized CM13 ROM, default Alucard kernel. Using the TWRP 3 recovery (the ROM thread recommended it).
TL;DR a kernel for i9505 MM that allows over clocking and disabling cores.
There are none such kernels available for marshmallow.
And you reasoning isn't quite right.
It may be true that sometimes fewer, more powerful cores, might be better, but this is mainly due to the fact that the app, or program, wasn't made with multi-core devices in mind, and as such, doesn't benefit from a multi-core structure.
Another thing is that a few hundred MHz won't make a huge difference. Especially since you won't be able to go high enough due to the processor becoming unstable.
The highest I could ever go was 2.1 GHz, but even this wasn't stable. After about 1 day it would freeze.
Remember, phones and ROMs are required to meet certain battery life requirements. As such, they usually come with a balanced configuration.
I wish this device had a better GPU. More likely a custom Mali T880 MP8 or MP12. This phone is what Huawei calls their flagship phone. Only GPU has let it down. Mali T880 MP4 can't just handle everything so smoothly in full HD.
they are slowly getting better
What we need is proper kernel sources so there can be a custom kernel built with GPU improvements, governors and overclock. I just wont count on that any time soon for this phone..
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What we need is proper kernel sources so there can be a custom kernel built with GPU improvements, governors and overclock. I just wont count on that any time soon for this phone..
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Overclocking just doesn't help much. All the GPU power is needed for gaming. Overclocking causes heating which throttles down CPU freqs. And over clocking really doesn't help much other than first 10-15 minutes.
My suggestion was just that they should have added more GPU clusters. This GPU is found in low budget devices.
Alok Bajaj said:
Overclocking just doesn't help much. All the GPU power is needed for gaming. Overclocking causes heating which throttles down CPU freqs. And over clocking really doesn't help much other than first 10-15 minutes.
My suggestion was just that they should have added more GPU clusters. This GPU is found in low budget devices.
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Sorry, but for real gaming get a PC and even there U could use a Emulator for Android games
i actually disagree with this. this mali quad cluster is on par, if not better than adreno 510 found in what is pretty much considered the best bang for the buck cpu out there, snap 650/2. not only is 650 a upper midrange/flasghsip material SoC, it performs generally quite well and runs everything. kirin beats it's gpu, or at least matches it, and wipes the floor with it when it comes to cpu power. sure, gpu is not 530 or mali mp12, but then again we paid a midrange price and got a flagship phone. it's a compromise. despite that, it still runs everything ok so its an acceptable gpu. not rly sure you'd see a huge difference between this gpu and mp12 on s7 since one on s7 has to push double the pixels, so real difference should be 50ish% tops. most gpu benches run the screen @ 1080P and sure, in that case it beats our cluster, but that's not s7's native resolution is it.
in the end, imo its worth it since the entire package simply performs great. i've had my share of phones, and this lil monster simply kills it, even without a custom rom. its just that well optimized.
xontec said:
Sorry, but for real gaming get a PC and even there U could use a Emulator for Android games
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I have a PC and not all games work well with emulators. And it's completely a different experience. I can't put my pc in my pocket ?
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i actually disagree with this. this mali quad cluster is on par, if not better than adreno 510 found in what is pretty much considered the best bang for the buck cpu out there, snap 650/2. not only is 650 a upper midrange/flasghsip material SoC, it performs generally quite well and runs everything. kirin beats it's gpu, or at least matches it, and wipes the floor with it when it comes to cpu power. sure, gpu is not 530 or mali mp12, but then again we paid a midrange price and got a flagship phone. it's a compromise. despite that, it still runs everything ok so its an acceptable gpu. not rly sure you'd see a huge difference between this gpu and mp12 on s7 since one on s7 has to push double the pixels, so real difference should be 50ish% tops. most gpu benches run the screen @ 1080P and sure, in that case it beats our cluster, but that's not s7's native resolution is it.
in the end, imo its worth it since the entire package simply performs great. i've had my share of phones, and this lil monster simply kills it, even without a custom rom. its just that well optimized.
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This is not a flagship GPU. Chinese phone generally offer more at this price. LeEco Le2 has this same GPU and costs ~⅓ of this phone's price. Xiaomi MI5 has an adreno 530 and it costs lesser than this phone. I would say a custom MP8 MALI GPU could have taken this phone to a different class. And yeah benchmark scores doesn't make any sense to me. They have just show some score based on 2 mins of testing. We can't conclude real life use with benchmark scores
xiaomi / letv phones might offer better specs for price, in china or india. there are some major issues when buying those, especially for ppl in europe/US. chinese brands are hard to come by, and even if you buy them for cheap/order from china you're pretty much stuck with a phone and no warranty. shipping to china is usually not worth considering the price. if you actually find a retailer that will sell lets say mi5 and provide a 2yr warranty, phone tends to cost a lot more than honor, at least thats the case where I'm at (EU). not to mention you can get honor8 for cheap when signing a contract. good luck doing that with chinese brands.
this is not a rant about chinese brands (myb rant bout xiaomi cause their open source policy is crap), i still use my rn3p and its been mostly satisfying esp. with CM13. however its been less then a year and it already started behaving badly. quality & control simply isnt on par. it was cheap sure, but it dies fast too, and there is no way for me to repair it. it is what it is, a compromise. cheap and you risk it, lil more expensive, but at least you're safe.
oh and in regards to mi5, unless you buy that premium version, phone is actually quite disappointing. build quality is meh, performance might be decent, but miui8 performs worse than EMUI so day to day usage is kinda pain. wish they did smth with that crapware os they ship. debloating is first step
I agree to what you say, but I won't include Mali T880 MP4 to a flagship hardware.
well you could say it's not flagship compared to the likes of snap820/1 / exynos, but it's the best huawei has to offer. for 1080p its acceptable. people that dont game really wont be able to tell a difference, for rest it just works. if you really look at kirin SoC's, even the gpu in 960 isnt top of the line. sure it kinda manages to narrow the gap with mentioned SoC's, but new ones are around the corner and kirin will again be worse in gpu department. this is standard for huawei honestly. same goes for mtk tho, yet mtk is widely popular (sure cheap price is the main reason) despite pretty crappy gpu. goes to show most ppl dont really need that top of the line gpu on board.
if hauwei was smart, they could've simply avoided this issue by releasing complete source. well built custom rom would be smth that most enthusiast would prefer over maxed out gpu. guess this wont happen tho xD
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well you could say it's not flagship compared to the likes of snap820/1 / exynos, but it's the best huawei has to offer. for 1080p its acceptable. people that dont game really wont be able to tell a difference, for rest it just works. if you really look at kirin SoC's, even the gpu in 960 isnt top of the line. sure it kinda manages to narrow the gap with mentioned SoC's, but new ones are around the corner and kirin will again be worse in gpu department. this is standard for huawei honestly. same goes for mtk tho, yet mtk is widely popular (sure cheap price is the main reason) despite pretty crappy gpu. goes to show most ppl dont really need that top of the line gpu on board.
if hauwei was smart, they could've simply avoided this issue by releasing complete source. well built custom rom would be smth that most enthusiast would prefer over maxed out gpu. guess this wont happen tho xD
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Well Kirin 960 has a very good GPU. Far better than this one. But again it has only 8 clusters which is good as of now. The new smartphones which will be using Mali G71 will have 16 clusters I guess. Cause that GPU can be configured upto 32 clusters. And Mali G71 MP8 isn't bad at all. It's really powerful and it can keep most demanding games run smoothly more than a year or two. But Mali T880 MP4 can't, only vulkan can help a bit. And I heard vulkan is kinda outdated/broken here in Nougat update. That's a bad news.
Alok Bajaj said:
I wish this device had a better GPU. More likely a custom Mali T880 MP8 or MP12. This phone is what Huawei calls their flagship phone. Only GPU has let it down. Mali T880 MP4 can't just handle everything so smoothly in full HD.
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Let get this correct Huawei don't call this their flagship phone.
This is Honor flagship phone, which is a separate brand Huawei has been pushing for a few years now..
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Let get this correct Huawei don't call this their flagship phone.
This is Honor flagship phone, which is a separate brand Huawei has been pushing for a few years now..
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Okay. Whatever the brand is this is what they call their flagship phone. But it lacks some GPU power. I'm experiencing a very bad GPU performance on this phone. I've to enable ROG mode if I'm to play mc5 smoothly. And powering a HD display even my three year old tablet with Adreno 320 does a better job.
well, kirin 955 = 950 when it comes to gpu performance, so gpu debate stands for now ex flagship p9 which has pretty much same specs as honor8.
as far as performance goes 320 is deffo worse than mali880. in 99% cases adreno 510 is better than 320, so 880mp4 should be too. im guessing either bad optimizations from huawei or devs are the culprit.
Alok Bajaj said:
I have a PC and not all games work well with emulators. And it's completely a different experience. I can't put my pc in my pocket ?
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You can get a nividia shield cloned app and you can even Play gta5 on your Phone dont know whats your Problem. if you have LTE you can Stream every game to your Phone. By the way the real feeling of gaming is only on the PC
Sorry for being redundant, but this is not Huawei's flagship phone, it's a budget phone. If you want their flagship get the Mate 9. Or maybe the upcoming Honor V9. The 'Honor' brand to me is a (budget) offshoot similar to Oppo to OnePlus. It makes sense for them to use a word in their brand name that western people are actually able to pronounce.
If would help if EMUI5 has the 720p mode working, but currently it doesn't. I'm afraid to use Android ADB command to force it, because it most likely won't look correctly and sometimes soft brick phones that isn't running stock Android, which is a pain to setup the phone from scratch.
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You can nividia shield get a Clone app and you can even Play gta5 on your Phone dont know whats your Problem than if you have LTE you can Stream every game to your Phone. By the way the real feeling of gaming is only in the PC
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Nvidia shield isn't a phone ? I'd buy it if it's a phone.
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Nvidia shield isn't a phone ? I'd buy it if it's a phone.
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Yeah but you can get a App that simulates nividia shield on your phone sorry maybe i expressed myself wrong
So you can play on your phone like on shield
Oh it was weired english i edited the post sorry.
It was to early in the morning
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Yeah but you can get a App that simulates nividia shield on your phone sorry maybe i expressed myself wrong
So you can play on your phone like on shield
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There's something called liquid sky. But then I'll have sell my house paying the internet bills.
Xiaomi decided to make a trick on us, and I think that might be even called a sort of scam - yet, my accusations may seem without proper argumentation quite invalid, so let's begin.
I bought this phone in a 6/128 version a month ago, as a successor to my previous experience with Xiaomi devices - The Redmi note 4(Mido). Immediately after unpacking it and installing latest OTA updates I ran AnTuTu benchmark in order to ensure myself whether it's a good upgrade or not(deciding factor was processor - whopping 2.35 GHz and GPU should be at least 1.5x as good as Snapdragon 625 had to offer). Average scores varied around 160k, while my device was... 95k. I didn't believe it's this bad, so I ran a few highly demanding titles(such as PUBG) and my fears rendered to be true. Everything was worse than my old Mido, with price tag twice as high! Not to even mention that battery life was sensibly worse, though capacity is almost identical.
This triggered the first red flag.
I made hard reset, and AnTuTu rose to 130k. I still didn't accept that state of matter, so I basically unlocked it, flashed TWRP and LineageOS. Results were... Non-existent. Yet, I decided to use it for some time because of just my pure love to LOS.
Things started getting... BAD. My phone started to literally bake itself(80°C avg) when screen was unlocked, causing thermal throttling which only made performance worse.
As soon as MIUI 10 came up I decided to say "f*** it" and return the phone to original state. I flashed the stock ROM, overwrote TWRP and started using it again.
I thought this update is a solution to all of my problems, but general ****ty performance seemed to happen each time the charger was connected instead. Google Pay didn't work as well because by device was "rooted", so I installed TWRP with Magisk just to make it work and terrible truth came to my eyes.
This update basically CLOCKED DOWN THE CPU.
On battery, all cores were underclocked to Snapdragon 820 clocks(2.35->2.15;2.1->1.6GHz) while connecting to charge makes all cores go at 1132 MHz, and GPU to 132 MHz - that's slower than Snapdragon 400!
Luckily, the performance on battery can be changed with root, but on charger - it's stuck on 1.1GHz.
Why do I write it all here?
I want to ask you guys if my data is the same as yours, and to ask bigger brains for a possible way to take control over clock when charging. This is frustrating to face performance throttling in such way - Is Xiaomi copying from Apple even their battery policy? I bought this phone only because of the CPU.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
You can always try a custom kernel that has all the tools to tweak your phone's performance.
I found that for my own use MIUI 10 is better than any other custom rom at the moment, including Oreo based examples, but that's just me and how I use the phone. I have it for a year now (4/64 international version) and still happy with it. Couldn't care less about the benchmark scores as long as my experience is lag free without overheating and enough battery life to get me through a day and a bit.
I found that occasionally I need to reboot it just to "reset" the OS and get battery performance where it should be.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
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I'm running Xiaomi.eu weekly 8.9.20 MIUI 10 Android 8.0 with no problems on the international version 6/128.
Looking at the cpu cores in AIDA64 there seems to be no problems, last I checked with antutu (several versions back) it was fine.
You should be thankfull for thermal throttelling, when charging for example.
I do not recommend quickcharging on any phone.
The Mi Note 2 does not have well implemented cooling apparently, you can damage the motherboard if running too hot for too long.
There is a quite detailed informative thread on the MIUI forum about this:
http://en.miui.com/thread-2541123-1-1.html
So perhaps not the best choice for extreme gaming, otherwise fine.
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Xiaomi decided to make a trick on us, and I think that might be even called a sort of scam - yet, my accusations may seem without proper argumentation quite invalid, so let's begin.
I bought this phone in a 6/128 version a month ago, as a successor to my previous experience with Xiaomi devices - The Redmi note 4(Mido). Immediately after unpacking it and installing latest OTA updates I ran AnTuTu benchmark in order to ensure myself whether it's a good upgrade or not(deciding factor was processor - whopping 2.35 GHz and GPU should be at least 1.5x as good as Snapdragon 625 had to offer). Average scores varied around 160k, while my device was... 95k. I didn't believe it's this bad, so I ran a few highly demanding titles(such as PUBG) and my fears rendered to be true. Everything was worse than my old Mido, with price tag twice as high! Not to even mention that battery life was sensibly worse, though capacity is almost identical.
This triggered the first red flag.
I made hard reset, and AnTuTu rose to 130k. I still didn't accept that state of matter, so I basically unlocked it, flashed TWRP and LineageOS. Results were... Non-existent. Yet, I decided to use it for some time because of just my pure love to LOS.
Things started getting... BAD. My phone started to literally bake itself(80°C avg) when screen was unlocked, causing thermal throttling which only made performance worse.
As soon as MIUI 10 came up I decided to say "f*** it" and return the phone to original state. I flashed the stock ROM, overwrote TWRP and started using it again.
I thought this update is a solution to all of my problems, but general ****ty performance seemed to happen each time the charger was connected instead. Google Pay didn't work as well because by device was "rooted", so I installed TWRP with Magisk just to make it work and terrible truth came to my eyes.
This update basically CLOCKED DOWN THE CPU.
On battery, all cores were underclocked to Snapdragon 820 clocks(2.35->2.15;2.1->1.6GHz) while connecting to charge makes all cores go at 1132 MHz, and GPU to 132 MHz - that's slower than Snapdragon 400!
Luckily, the performance on battery can be changed with root, but on charger - it's stuck on 1.1GHz.
Why do I write it all here?
I want to ask you guys if my data is the same as yours, and to ask bigger brains for a possible way to take control over clock when charging. This is frustrating to face performance throttling in such way - Is Xiaomi copying from Apple even their battery policy? I bought this phone only because of the CPU.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
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Too right mate.
After firmware update, this device became a ****ty one.
I've been using Lineage with 8.5.24 firmware and it was "OK". My old Zuk Z2 was still better (faster and better battery life).
Now, with 9.xx firmware, this Mi Note 2 is pure garbage.
I'm waiting for a stable Lineage 16 to decide if I keep this device or buy another one.
One thing is sure: I'll never buy any Xiaomi devices again.
Later my device very similiar problem with you, then i update to miui 10 global stable, with twrp and magisk applied and still have problem when intense playing game becoming hot above 60 degrees. I tweak with kernel aduitor try to lock each core big.LITTLE max at 1500 mhz and delete thermal throttling in system/vendor/etc then my device perform smooth and acceptable temp with longer battery.
Im not into benchmarking with antutu just play with PUBG mobile I get high and stable fps with no hot temperature which is actually good.
piway said:
Later my device very similiar problem with you, then i update to miui 10 global stable, with twrp and magisk applied and still have problem when intense playing game becoming hot above 60 degrees. I tweak with kernel aduitor try to lock each core big.LITTLE max at 1500 mhz and delete thermal throttling in system/vendor/etc then my device perform smooth and acceptable temp with longer battery.
Im not into benchmarking with antutu just play with PUBG mobile I get high and stable fps with no hot temperature which is actually good.
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did you use any custom kernel for tweaking or just the default one? and may i know what ROM did you use?
hypixus said:
Xiaomi decided to make a trick on us, and I think that might be even called a sort of scam - yet, my accusations may seem without proper argumentation quite invalid, so let's begin.
I bought this phone in a 6/128 version a month ago, as a successor to my previous experience with Xiaomi devices - The Redmi note 4(Mido). Immediately after unpacking it and installing latest OTA updates I ran AnTuTu benchmark in order to ensure myself whether it's a good upgrade or not(deciding factor was processor - whopping 2.35 GHz and GPU should be at least 1.5x as good as Snapdragon 625 had to offer). Average scores varied around 160k, while my device was... 95k. I didn't believe it's this bad, so I ran a few highly demanding titles(such as PUBG) and my fears rendered to be true. Everything was worse than my old Mido, with price tag twice as high! Not to even mention that battery life was sensibly worse, though capacity is almost identical.
This triggered the first red flag.
I made hard reset, and AnTuTu rose to 130k. I still didn't accept that state of matter, so I basically unlocked it, flashed TWRP and LineageOS. Results were... Non-existent. Yet, I decided to use it for some time because of just my pure love to LOS.
Things started getting... BAD. My phone started to literally bake itself(80°C avg) when screen was unlocked, causing thermal throttling which only made performance worse.
As soon as MIUI 10 came up I decided to say "f*** it" and return the phone to original state. I flashed the stock ROM, overwrote TWRP and started using it again.
I thought this update is a solution to all of my problems, but general ****ty performance seemed to happen each time the charger was connected instead. Google Pay didn't work as well because by device was "rooted", so I installed TWRP with Magisk just to make it work and terrible truth came to my eyes.
This update basically CLOCKED DOWN THE CPU.
On battery, all cores were underclocked to Snapdragon 820 clocks(2.35->2.15;2.1->1.6GHz) while connecting to charge makes all cores go at 1132 MHz, and GPU to 132 MHz - that's slower than Snapdragon 400!
Luckily, the performance on battery can be changed with root, but on charger - it's stuck on 1.1GHz.
Why do I write it all here?
I want to ask you guys if my data is the same as yours, and to ask bigger brains for a possible way to take control over clock when charging. This is frustrating to face performance throttling in such way - Is Xiaomi copying from Apple even their battery policy? I bought this phone only because of the CPU.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
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I am in agreement with you in everything, I also checked it. The solution for me, after trying roms based on Miui was to change a custom rom. And with Aosp Ext. I'm doing very well.
You don't need to try a custom ROM.
Just follow the steps mentioned in this video to activate the PERFORMANCE mode and you'll be fine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5gKKk2BGIM
Kind regards,
Lexx
we shouldnt need outside apps or tweaks to get this phone running..maybe thats why xiaomi leave it behind..for me its running fine, i dont play intensive games, only top eleven and works fine, heats to 38º maximum..battery SOT is about 5-6 hours all day but i need to charge it at the end of the day..im running MIUI 10 xiaomi.eu 9.4.25, dark mode ,all black..nice..great sound,****ty camera at night..worst that i ever had..day time decent photos, not for this price tag..for sure...
smokerman said:
we shouldnt need outside apps or tweaks to get this phone running..maybe thats why xiaomi leave it behind..for me its running fine, i dont play intensive games, only top eleven and works fine, heats to 38º maximum..battery SOT is about 5-6 hours all day but i need to charge it at the end of the day..im running MIUI 10 xiaomi.eu 9.4.25, dark mode ,all black..nice..great sound,****ty camera at night..worst that i ever had..day time decent photos, not for this price tag..for sure...
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Latest Gcam works great, also night photos.
But you have to tweak the settings to get it to work well and not FC.
Arnova's Advanced 1.5: GCam_6.1.021_Advanced_V1.5.190418.1850.apk (Arnova8G2, 2019-04-18, configs, changelog)
What kind of "the settings"? Could you explain it please?
Peanut2R said:
did you use any custom kernel for tweaking or just the default one? and may i know what ROM did you use?
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Looks like there isn't a custom kernel which is working with latest MIUI version
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