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Kind of curious...
The GN3 appears to support the frequencies of the various carriers included. Perhaps making the device portable from Carrier to Carrier.
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
Anyone have any idea if the carriers are going to bother with hacks like for example like Verizon did on the GN2 (removed a bunch of functions and hardware modifications).
I'm on Verizon now but leaning on moving to another carrier if the Verizon "version" has been crippled again. I'm also leaning on a non-contract purchase since I think the various plans are going to be in flux over the next year.
krelvinaz said:
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
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You didn't think you'd escape, did you?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Galaxy+...uId=1951103&st=note3&cp=1&lp=3&contract_desc=
As for changes, VZW really did a hack job on the N2 s/w wise. I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps. I'm getting the AT&T N3 which will be my first carrier phone in over two years. If I can find an international LTE version that supports their bands (EU and Latin America don't so far) my AT&T N3 will be on eBay. I don't care what the carriers add, it can be disabled and with 32GB of RAM it's not that big a deal. I'm just afraid of them screwing around with some of the international functionality for no good reason. That and potentially waiting a lifetime between updates. You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
will they get that ugly tramp stamp on the home button too?
BarryH_GEG said:
You didn't think you'd escape, did you?
As for changes, VZW really did a hack job on the N2 s/w wise. I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps. I'm getting the AT&T N3 which will be my first carrier phone in over two years. If I can find an international LTE version that supports their bands (EU and Latin America don't so far) my AT&T N3 will be on eBay. I don't care what the carriers add, it can be disabled and with 32GB of RAM it's not that big a deal. I'm just afraid of them screwing around with some of the international functionality for no good reason. That and potentially waiting a lifetime between updates. You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
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Those are just covers. Replace the cover and the marking is gone. Unlike many phones, the covers don't have antennas in them.
Specs from the phone:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data: LTE Cat4 Downlink 150 Mbit/s, LTE Cat3/4 Uplink 50 Mbit/s, HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
Showing radio coverage of all the carriers.. which is why I am asking.
BarryH_GEG said:
I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps.
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They didn't change any thing hardware wise on the VZN S4 just software
BarryH_GEG said:
You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
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krelvinaz said:
Those are just covers. Replace the cover and the marking is gone. Unlike many phones, the covers don't have antennas in them.
Specs from the phone:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data: LTE Cat4 Downlink 150 Mbit/s, LTE Cat3/4 Uplink 50 Mbit/s, HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
Showing radio coverage of all the carriers.. which is why I am asking.
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Here's AT&T
Here's the UK, LTE bands aren't identified on Samsung, Clove, or Handtec's sites
Here's the EU and LTA from Negri
So AT&T dropped 900MHz UMTS for some reason and is only using 4 LTE bands when the N3's radio supports 6. The EU versions of the S-800 N3 would work fine in the U.S. on 2/3G but not LTE and only VZW branded phones work on their CDMA network. I don't know what question you're really asking as VZW's radio is going to be different from those identified so far because it's CDMA/GSM (for LTE) and will have VZW's LTE bands making it "non-standard" to anything else out there. Same thing for AT&T's. There's some 900MHz frequency in Europe, LATAM, Asia, and Australia so I have no idea why AT&T would omit 900MHz and limit their customer’s roaming options (or the ability to use their N3 unlocked with another carrier's SIM) in those markets. With Sprint being CDMA/LTE like VZW and on their own LTE frequencies and T-Mobile still depending on 1700MHz in most markets no U.S. N3 will be “pure” from a radio perspective; at least not compared to what Samsung ships "stock" everywhere else in the world.
Info from VZW Phone they are selling...
CDMA Data – 1x and EVDO Rev0/RevA
LTE: B13 (700MHz)
Global Ready (GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
When Looking at the pre-purchase page, it asks an interesting question.
Do you want to use this phone Internationally?
wonder if that means they have to unlock it for you to do so?
Wireless charging
krelvinaz said:
Kind of curious...
The GN3 appears to support the frequencies of the various carriers included. Perhaps making the device portable from Carrier to Carrier.
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
Anyone have any idea if the carriers are going to bother with hacks like for example like Verizon did on the GN2 (removed a bunch of functions and hardware modifications).
I'm on Verizon now but leaning on moving to another carrier if the Verizon "version" has been crippled again. I'm also leaning on a non-contract purchase since I think the various plans are going to be in flux over the next year.
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Yeah I am on Verizon as well and really wondering are they going to block the wireless charging again? Any one know? The branding does not really bother me I would do same if it was my company.
Thinking of putting my note II on ebay and picking up the III. Think there are users out there that would love a rooted Jedi x free wifi tethering phone but that just might be because I love it so much.
VZW International Option
krelvinaz said:
Info from VZW Phone they are selling...
CDMA Data – 1x and EVDO Rev0/RevA
LTE: B13 (700MHz)
Global Ready (GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
When Looking at the pre-purchase page, it asks an interesting question.
Do you want to use this phone Internationally?
wonder if that means they have to unlock it for you to do so?
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If you check the box when ordering you will be given a choice of which international plan you want to subscribe to. This can be added later, if you don't want to incur the cost upon activation.
Are the Specs for the note 3 On Sprints network released yet?
I plan to get a note 3 with umts 900 from any carrier that supports it.
I hate that At&T always remove that.
Seems like the verizon version will be unlocked.
I might get that and replace the back.
LTE and HSPA Frequencies for the AT&T and T-Mobile Variant
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/11/samsung-galaxy-note-3-reaches-the-fcc-in-att-and-sprint-forms/
Provides links to the FCC site for GN3 versions for AT&T/T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon. This post is regarding supported frequencies. I focus only on the AT&T/T-Mobile model.
The hyperlink SM-N900T goes to the shared model for AT&T and T-Mobile at the FCC. The relevant document is the one called Test Report. Page 6 is where the supported frequencies are listed. For HSPA (WCDMA), it's 850, 1700/2100 and 1900 MHz. For LTE, it's 700 (the AT&T type 700, not Verizon's band), 850, 1700/2100 and 1900.
Apparently, the N900T is used by both carriers despite AT&T and T-Mobile websites giving conflicting specs. For example, T-Mobile's site http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note-3.html doesn't even specify the LTE frequency (scroll down to Specifications/International). But you can see from the Test Report to the FCC what they are. AT&T website doesn't even list AWS 1700/2100 presumably for business reasons but it is technically supported.
The hyperlink SM-N900W8 on that Engadget page is for Bluetooth. Ignore it.
There you go...the AT&T and T-Mobile models are interchangeable.
A cursory look at the Test Reports for the Sprint and Version models demonstrate exactly what is already known or expected.
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There you go...the AT&T and T-Mobile models are interchangeable....
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Until you realized you need wifi calling because you can't get any service with T-Mobile
This is to follow up on my post yesterday.
In the links to the FCC filings, the documents called "Test Report" lists the following bands and frequencies. It's either on the first page or in the section called EUT Description of the relevant document for each of the carriers.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=736794&fcc_id=A3LSMN900A
AT&T version (SM-N900A) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that Verizon's 700 MHz band.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=134996&fcc_id=A3LSMN900P
Sprint version (SM-N900P) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 25 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=566535&fcc_id=A3LSMN900T
T-Mobile vesion (SM-N900T) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) Note this is also the band for AT&T but not Verizon which is band 13 700 MHz.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=956586&fcc_id=A3LSMN900V
Verizon version (SM-N900V) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 13 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that AT&T's 700 MHz band.
StarTAC Fan said:
In the links to the FCC filings, the documents called "Test Report" lists the following bands and frequencies. It's either on the first page or in the section called EUT Description of the relevant document for each of the carriers.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=736794&fcc_id=A3LSMN900A
AT&T version (SM-N900A) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that Verizon's 700 MHz band.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=134996&fcc_id=A3LSMN900P
Sprint version (SM-N900P) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 25 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=566535&fcc_id=A3LSMN900T
T-Mobile vesion (SM-N900T) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) Note this is also the band for AT&T but not Verizon which is band 13 700 MHz.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=956586&fcc_id=A3LSMN900V
Verizon version (SM-N900V) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 13 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that AT&T's 700 MHz band.
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Looks like the T-mo version is leading the way as far as supported GSM bands is concerned. in addition, T-mo does not have a history of locking it's bootloaders. Getting the T-mo version and unlocking it to use ATT. (If the nexus 5 underwhelms)
With all the above said... It seems that TMO note 3 is the way to go..... Even with a At&t sim...... Do we know if it is unlocked ? Or will it need to be....... ??
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
sk8ordie0 said:
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
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I am strongly tempted to do just that. I'm so frieken stuck between this and the z1 though. IDK what to do!!! Halp!
sk8ordie0 said:
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
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Yup, ordered on the 17th.
Ok means if i buy the Note 3 for T-Mo unlock from negri i can use without any problems with AT&T using LTE,HSPA,3G or phone calls?
I need a note 3 that can:
connect to AT&T LTE here in the USA
And connect to T-Mobile NL in Holland
And unlocked bootloader
ATT:
850 MHz CLR 5 UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s 4G In service
1900 MHz PCS 2 UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s 4G In service
700 MHz Block B 17 LTE 4G In service Main LTE band providing complete coverage
1700/2100 MHz AWS 4 LTE 4G In service Additional LTE band for more bandwidth in select markets
1900 MHz PCS 2 LTE 4G Service starts by the end of 2013 Additional LTE band for more bandwidth in select markets[31]
2300 MHz WCS 30 LTE 4G Approved for deployment in Oct 2012[32]
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TMO:
This company uses GSM1800 as their main frequency band for communications. In 2010 T-Mobile Netherlands had some problems with 3G capacity, but after investing in the network modernization they have managed to deal with this problem. So now they provide 3G services using 2100MHz band
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Am I restricted to the N900-T? or is there another one you know of.
sorry for the noob question i don't know about all the bands.
Thanks!
T-Mo NL uses the 900Mhz for 2G, 2100Mhz band for 3G, and are in the process of updating to the 900Mhz band for both 2G and 3G. (Should be finished by the end of 2016.) LTE runs on the 1800Mhz band. (I can dream these numbers by now...)
You can find the bands per phone version here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574886
Does the TMo US version even work with AT&T?
Both N900-t and N9005 work in terms of frequency for 2G.
You will probably not be able to use the N900T for 3G once the network upgrade is finished here, as we're going to be using the 900Mhz as the main frequency for 3G. The N900T can't see that one. The 2100Mhz will be serving as a bandwidth increaser, not as the main band.
There's a chance you won't get 4G everywhere on the N9005 when using it in the US, as it can't see the 700/1700/1900/2300Mhz frequency.
And you're going to have to root to get rid of the region lock either way if you want to use both SIMs.
Tmo version 4G will not work with AT&T 4G. I tried with my wife's phone
T-Mobile (US) devices support the same frequencies as AT&T devices. This is coming from experience and from the fact that I've pretty much memorized all the band numbers that carriers use and phones support.
If you want a Note 3 that supports AT&T LTE in the US and HSPA+ in NL, you can either get the AT&T model or the T-Mobile model. The T-Mobile model supports one extra band (1700 MHz HSPA+) that is only used on T-Mobile US (nowhere outside of North America), so it wouldn't make a difference. Just know that it CAN be used on AT&T. The other differences between the two:
1. The T-Mobile version supports Wifi Calling (if used on T-Mobile), AT&T model doesn't.
2. AT&T removes the "Network Mode" menu from the Settings menu (so you can't force EDGE for example).
3. AT&T version has a locked bootloader. T-Mobile version doesn't.
In many instances, although 900 MHz WCDMA/HSPA+ isn't listed, it's supported. I can't confirm it because I'm in the US, and GSM carriers use (total) 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz for WCDMA, not 900 MHz. I think it's just unlisted to discourage people from exporting the US models. The only LTE frequency that North America shares in common with Europe is 2600 MHz, which is supported by the phone. I believe that's only used in urban areas in Europe.
Overall the T-Mobile model is the most open in terms of bootloader and supported frequencies (though either model would work in your case).
Is there anyway to enable 1700 AWS /LTE on the 910C using QPST?
I know a few phones have benefited from a QPST modification in the past.
I'm interested in the Exynos Note 4 and would like to use with tmobile however I wonder if there's a way to enable all of the tmobile bands to work to ensure 100% network phone & data coverage compatibility.
It seems the only issue tmobile has is the missing 1700 band for 3G aws, 4G aws & LTE.
Is there a way to enable the 1700 band on the 910C using QPST?
According to Tmobile....
tmobile said:
T-Mobile network coverage
Created by tmo_ian on Oct 16, 2012 8:55 AM. Last modified by tmo_kim on Sep 3, 2015 3:37 PM.
Voice over LTE (VoLTE)
VoLTE (Voice over LTE) allows you to place and receive calls on our LTE data network. Phone calls are connected with a clear and rich experience. You never know when you might need to check Facebook while talking to your mom and sharing your Mobile Hotspot with your friends. All of this, on our amazingly fast 4G LTE network. Here's some of the highlights:
Switch between 4G VoLTE and Wi-Fi without dropping a call!
Enjoy crystal-clear calls with our new HD Voice service.
Browse the web with speed while on a call.
Placing a call connects twice as fast.
4G LTE
T-Mobile's advanced 4G LTE network is smoking fast! With incredible speed, you can do more using our nationwide 4G LTE network. 4G LTE delivers up to 50% faster speeds then 3G. If you're in an area served by 4G LTE, you can expect blazing fast speeds because of our expanded capacity. Check out our coverage map to see all the places we have 4G LTE.*
Frequencies: Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 12 (700 MHz)
4G (HSPA+)
With 4G, theoretical maximum download speeds range from 21 Mbps up to 42 Mbps. You can take advantage of incredibly fast download speeds, and even use voice and data services at the same time.
Frequencies: Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
3G (HSPA)
With 3G, theoretical maximum download of 14 Mbps. With 3G, you can use voice and data services simultaneously.
Frequencies: Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
2G (GSM, GPRS, and EDGE)
EDGE, our enhanced 2G service, delivers a theoretical maximum download speed of 236 kbps. GPRS, our 2G service, delivers a theoretical maximum download speed of 114 kbps. Typical speeds are between 35 kbps and 45 kbps. Keep in mind, voice and data services cannot work simultaneously when on GPRS or EDGE.**
Frequencies: Band 2 (1900 MHz)
Requirements
It's important to use a device capable of the network type you desire, and you should be in a location that has cellular network coverage. Check out our coverage map to see what areas we service, and check out Phones & Devices for device specifications.
Data speeds vary depending on its operating system, processor, battery life, running applications, peak theoretical speeds, and distance from the cell site. USB laptop sticks almost always offer higher speeds than smartphones, because they use the power of a laptop with larger batteries, processors, and other technologies. Also, downloading information is faster than uploading. There is no way to predict an exact speed with so many factors affecting your experience.
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and the 910C specs seem to be:
Thetaylor310 said:
According to GSM Arena, the following LTE bands are set to work on the N910C (i have it too):
700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz
(Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20) - N910F, N910C
And according to the providers' link given by B.Diddy, the major US LTE bands are the following:
Verizon:
- Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
- Band 5 (850 MHz)
- Band 13 (700 MHz)
Sprint:
- Band 25 (1900 MHz)
- Band 26 (800 MHz)
AT&T:
- Band 2 (1900 MHz)
- Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
- Band 5 (850 MHz)
- Band 12&17 (700 MHz)
T-Mobile:
- Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
- Band 12 (700 MHz)
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I have the same situation. Have you fix it for your 910C? What is QPST and what should I do? Thanks in advance.
I just received the Global Version of the Mi Note 2 from Gearbest. I installed the newly released Global Rom and just connected to the Canadian Rogers Network. On my S4 I used to see a little LTE symbol beside the 4G at the top. Since I turned this on I have to see any LTE at all. Just HSPA+ which I never saw on my S4 and 3G.
Is there any way with a Qualcomm device that I can confirm what bands are supported ? I did the *#*#4636#*#* and tried forcing it into LTE only and it would not connect to the Rogers Network. So I'm a bit confused since this thing is supposed to have all the LTE bands available.
any help appreciated.....I did Root the phone... as well
I did play around as well with the sim in slot one and slot 2 too see if there was any difference. Didn't seem to help at all.
Hi !
Can you check with the box of your Mi Note 2 ?
You must see this on the global version
http://en.miui.com/data/attachment/forum/201701/05/153904ix5fyiv54a64wyw5.jpg.thumb.jpg
On the standard version you must see 4 chinese character, like this:
http://en.miui.com/data/attachment/forum/201701/05/154250en32n022020z3ch0.jpg.thumb.jpg
If you are the second box, contact Gearbest.
Anybody here having a real global Note 2? Rooted for sure. If yes please pm.
pappschlumpf said:
Anybody here having a real global Note 2? Rooted for sure. If yes please pm.
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Join the telegram group, there are members there will Global edition Mi Note 2. What is it you crave/.
StoneTrapper said:
Join the telegram group, there are members there will Global edition Mi Note 2. What is it you crave/.
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Ok, thx, joined the group.
Definitely check and make sure you have the correct version by referencing the box and the links troufiniou provided above. If it is indeed the Global variant, I would recommend adjusting your APN settings
I have the same issue, could you fix it? Thanks
Enviado desde mi Mi Note 2 mediante Tapatalk
Is there any other way to check if my mi note 2 is a global version or not (except symbols on the box)?. The Mi Verification check gave me that it is the 'Device model LTE 28G' which is not rly helpfull because i can not find any information about it in internet. Much thx for help in advance.
I have same problem. APN is good (double checked with carrier). Even searching for networks doesnt show lte networks..
Can someone help?
I did Mi Check and it showed Device Model LTE. Tried both sim slots. Shows Global version model 2015213 on the box.
My sim card is my lte card i was using with prior phone and lte was fine
Is that ROM related?
Wow. Nobody???
Stilll... Damn! :-/
Community is dead for that phone or what?
iPeck said:
Wow. Nobody???
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MKT tools on playstore shows which bands are working or activated, hope this helps.
Under the surface
Hello I Have the mi note 2 Global. The box dysplay a big global LOGO. And the frequencies given in GSM arena are the followings:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE-A (3CA) Cat12 600/150 Mbps
Canada
2G capabilities
GSM 850, GSM 1900
3G capabilities
UMTS 850, UMTS 1700, UMTS 1900
4G capabilities
LTE 1700, LTE 2600
So you can't really guess what they mean by 4G (1700/2100) . So if there is a 4G antenna next to your house that emits phone signal over the fréqueny 1700 then you might have received a version that doesn't suit your need. (i guess it is some phones have 2100 some other have 1700 but not both). You should try to get the info of what frequencies are used by the different antennas in your surroundings. I give an exemple for france:
go to the adress here: antennesmobiles
when you specify a town (if you say paris you must still zoom a little bit but not for smaller towns). Then if you look at the frequencies used by each antenna you can see the things are much more complicated than what it seems at first sight.
For exemple look the details given for a single antenna (metro oberkampf):
FH 25.5 à 26.25 GHz
3G:
UMTS 880.1 à 889.9 MHz UMTS 925.1 à 934.9 MHz UMTS 1900.1 à 1905.1 MHz UMTS 1935.3 à 1950.1 MHz UMTS 2125.3 à 2140.1 MHz
2G:
GSM 880.1 à 889.9 MHz GSM 925.1 à 934.9 MHz GSM 1765 à 1785 MHz GSM 1860 à 1880 MHz
4G:
LTE 791 à 801 MHz LTE 832 à 842 MHz LTE 1765 à 1785 MHz LTE 1860 à 1880 MHz LTE 2535 à 2550 MHz LTE 2655 à 2670 MHz
So i think these data have to be looked at carefully as it's hard to link with the commercial given data for exemple the
frequencies used in France:
2G capabilities
GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities
UMTS 900, UMTS 2100
4G capabilities
LTE 700 (28), LTE 800 (20), LTE 1800 (3), LTE 2600 (7).
Let alone that in this listing I gave the result of one antenna belonging to only one provider.
But i Hope i have given you the track to better understand the results of your intensity signal discribed on your phone.
By the way here in France I'm almost permanently in 4g with good signal only since I have this phone because before I had a phone better suited for Algéria.
Thanks and good researches.
Currently I am on Freedom mobile in Canada. I am looking for a standalone smart watch that has the sim capability to run 3g, 4g, lte, whatever I can get basically. I currently have a DM98 and its a really cool smart watch, but the sim will not work in it as its the incorrect frequency. I would for sure need AWS 1700 band to allow 3g and lte on older devices I assume. If anyone knows what might work it would be great. - Frequency info here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Mobile#Radio_frequency_summary
700 MHz C block (upper) 13 LTE 4G Active / Being Deployed[102] Additional LTE band that will provide service in deeper buildings and hard to reach places. Acquired from Quebecor
1,700 MHz AWS 4 UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+/LTE 3G/4G Active (3G) Main band for providing 3G services. (LTE) Secondary Band that provides LTE for older devices.
1,700 MHz AWS-3 66 LTE 4G Active Primary band used for LTE service in all regions except eastern Ontario.
2,500 MHz IMT-E 7 LTE 4G Active/ Being Deployed[103] Main Band that will provide fastest LTE speeds for older devices. Acquired from Quebecor.
Thank you very much
Only ones I have found are possibly an intex which is small and dated and an LG Sports Watch 2 it looks like. If anyone has any options it would be great. Was hoping for some of the new ones like huawei smartwatch 2 but they are not compatible either. Real bummer.