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4GB Zenfone 2 - First Impressions

Got mine yesterday, really fast delivery from China and arrived in Dublin on Monday via DHL , had to pay €53.25 customs fees just when i thought i was getting away with it!!
Anyway ill list the pros and cons so far
PROS - Fast and responsive with no lag, especially with Nova launcher
Haven't taken many photos but the camera seems excellent and a massive step up from my One Plus One which ill be selling
Looks really smart with Android L, really nice interface
The phone is a perfect size and looks really nice
Addition of micro sim and dual sim is excellent and should be standard thesedays
Audio sounds good
CONS - The back looks nice but it's just plastic, i dont know why but i thought this was supposed to be aluminium so im a tad disappointed and premium design phones are the way forward the front looks lovely however
I dont know why but ive had the occasional FC on the play store and this shouldn't happen on a brand new phone
Not many but bloody chinese apps came pre loaded and are i dont appear to be able to uninstall them all
The power button up the top is a pain and will take a while getting used to, what the hell is wrong with the side
For come reason my contacts didn't sync from Google everything else did, ive tried a few things no luck so far so im hoping i can sort this out.
anymore pros and cons ill post them, feel free to share your own views,

were you bought it from? I am planning to buy this from Asus France, is that good idea? Because now only €299 and no customs fees! (I live in The Netherlands, EU)

Thanks for the rundown.
Battery life?

Rene_ajax said:
were you bought it from? I am planning to buy this from Asus France, is that good idea? Because now only €299 and no customs fees! (I live in The Netherlands, EU)
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tried that already, unless you have a French address it wont allow you to.
got mine from
http://www.gearbest.com/
and excellent delivery time i have to say (choose DHL)

DanielKennethRego said:
Thanks for the rundown.
Battery life?
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Cant comment yet im still in the process of setting it up and downloading all my app and ill have to bluetooth photos/videos/music from my One Plus One to this phone and most important find a fix for my contacts not syncing but in general im very impressed, it;s so responsive and smooth

jonny68 said:
tried that already, unless you have a French address it wont allow you to.
got mine from
http://www.gearbest.com/
and excellent delivery time i have to say (choose DHL)
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thats really a pity
but from gearbest that one is Taiwanese version, no Playstore and only 1,8ghz. but I have heard you can put Worldwide firmware on it, so it can support EU bands and have playstore?

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I got the one from gearbest.com also thought I was getting 2.3GHz processor but only got 1.8GHz still has 4GB ram and 32GB storage. agreed phone is quick, and agree mostly with impressions above. Screen is also a little dull to me and viewing angles are not great. Just ran and antutu and it got 41672. My Note 3 with Cyanogenmod got 42212.
Tried 1080p videos and YouTube and works without any glitches also played Real Racing 3 and it had no glitches or stutters. The plastic back makes my hand sweat for whatever reason but a case would fix anyways. Camera works great and takes better pics than my Note 3. Am on T-mobile USA and because Chinese firmware only getting 3G/H+ good coverage area gets me around 12mb down and 2mb up.
Probably going to sell it and stick with my Note 3 until something better comes along.

Rene_ajax said:
thats really a pity
but from gearbest that one is Taiwanese version, no Playstore and only 1,8ghz. but I have heard you can put Worldwide firmware on it, so it can support EU bands and have playstore?
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You must have the Chinese version because the Taiwanese version have the Google services pre-installed.

The one from Gearbest.com is China version. I can confirm.

coastalmikey said:
You must have the Chinese version because the Taiwanese version have the Google services pre-installed.
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What do you mean?
If I understood correctly, Chinese version is from Gearbest and that one doesnt have play store and is only 1,8ghz

yes it is the chinese version i have and im fuming here google play was continuously force closing so i uninstalled it and sideloaded the apk which installs ok but when i click on it it wont open, ive tred clearing cache and data, uninstalling and re installing but to no avail so im left with a phone in which i cannot install my apps, ****ing disaster after my initiak post when i was fairly happy earlier the minute i turned the phone on to finish setting up the problems started, it's looking likely ill have to send it back, theres no way im paying customs fees again and they cay refund me for the postage and either send me a non chinese version with google play instaslled or refund me my money.
unless anyone has other ideas in the meantme
fuming here

I had that problem too but clearing the cache fixed.

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aaronoh said:
You can order from Asus France. You just need to use a mail forwarding service such as BPM-LUX or French Office. I've ordered with BPM but it's not due for dispatch from Asus for 'around a month'.
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can you tell me how to do mail forwarding from the site?? I am from The Netherlands, so...
Really wanna buy from Asus France

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42414373&postcount=35
ridiculous you have to do this just to get the play store but it works,,,however it's now asking me again to pay for the apps which ive already paid for, anyone know how i can resolve this?

im returning mine to Gearbeast i sent them a message and they responded fairly quickly and said they'd send me a European model which they should have done in the first place, they are expecting me to pay for postage too im going to demand they refund me this and pay any other customs fees , clearly they should not have sent people outside China the Chinese model with no play store which is a nightmare.
Asides from that it's a cracking phone, but when available im going to purchase an aluminium back cover whenever i get my European model sent to me.

I also purchased a Chinese version from Gearbest. I am currently in the process of returning it and already bought a Taiwanese 2.3GHz version from eBay. The eBay ones seem to be the best so far, as they are the Taiwanese version which means 4G on T-Mobile PLUS its the 2.3GHz instead of the 1.8GHz ... on top of all that, it has the Play Store and Google framework installed. ...... At least, that's what I've come up with reading on the forums the past couple of days. Hopefully they're all true.

EdoIsa said:
I also purchased a Chinese version from Gearbest. I am currently in the process of returning it and already bought a Taiwanese 2.3GHz version from eBay. The eBay ones seem to be the best so far, as they are the Taiwanese version which means 4G on T-Mobile PLUS its the 2.3GHz instead of the 1.8GHz ... on top of all that, it has the Play Store and Google framework installed. ...... At least, that's what I've come up with reading on the forums the past couple of days. Hopefully they're all true.
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Can you link to your ebay item/seller?

Is there any quality difference fi you buy form a chinesse retailer?

I'm currently interested in buying a oneplus two and the official site says that they don't deliver to my country, so i'm thinking of buying one from a chinesse retailer like gearbest.
A friend told me that if you buy form a chinesse retailer they may not be the same quality as if you would buy it from the official site, any thoughts on this?
he also said that they come whit more bloatware and there's a higher chance of getting one with overheating problems. I'm thinking they might have different hardware revisions.

Nope. I'm from germany and bought the Oneplus2 (A20003) from Geekbuying. It took some time to ship it because it were very asked but it is actually working good and seems to be a good one.
No quality problems!

I think if you buy from chinese retailer it may be running Hydrogen OS instead of Oxygen OS

I am use the oneplus two in china
I am using the oneplus two in china.just now, it is fine,and I love it .and I think the hardware revisionsis the same with the phone outbound
cipry189 said:
I'm currently interested in buying a oneplus two and the official site says that they don't deliver to my country, so i'm thinking of buying one from a chinesse retailer like gearbest.
A friend told me that if you buy form a chinesse retailer they may not be the same quality as if you would buy it from the official site, any thoughts on this?
he also said that they come whit more bloatware and there's a higher chance of getting one with overheating problems. I'm thinking they might have different hardware revisions.
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Mi 9T EU Factory Sealed

Anyone know where to get the EU Mi 9T 128gb Version Factory Sealed in Europe,Amazon seems to only sell the 64gb version and it's out of stock

Got mine from honorbuy. But more expensive but I had mine in 26hours(!!). Sent from Italy to Germany. Black 128Gb ~390€

FroZine said:
Got mine from honorbuy. But more expensive but I had mine in 26hours(!!). Sent from Italy to Germany. Black 128Gb ~390€
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Factory Sealed unopened ?
I sent them a message recently about the redmi k20 pro and they said they open them to test them,but maybe not the mi 9t
€390 for the 128 version is pretty decent it's €330 for 64gb one on amazon

I bough my mi9t from this https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/offer?action=desc&aid=4827612891&productid=3974212410 and it is factory sealed. but look for other sellers https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/mfp...10&filter=10&cid=5849175&scroll=shop_sections this from europe are even cheaper now, and probably they come factory sealed.
for this mine seller it is sure factory sealed.
i paid it 354eur, as rakuten offer me 30eur discount for sopping over 300eur

tradingshenzhen[dot]com also recently adjusted their prices for both versions 327,-€ / 64GB and 357,-€ / 128GB
It's also said that in their next delivery they will have all three colors available

slavke1976 said:
I bough my mi9t from this https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/offer?action=desc&aid=4827612891&productid=3974212410 and it is factory sealed. but look for other sellers https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/mfp...10&filter=10&cid=5849175&scroll=shop_sections this from europe are even cheaper now, and probably they come factory sealed.
for this mine seller it is sure factory sealed.
i paid it 354eur, as rakuten offer me 30eur discount for sopping over 300eur
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What about the warranty when buying a phone from sites like that?
I'm looking to buy myself one 128gb version, and as someone mentioned above amazon is out of stock, so now I'm wondering whits sites like you mentioned + Goldway via alixpsress etc...

Pejpi said:
What about the warranty when buying a phone from sites like that?
I'm looking to buy myself one 128gb version, and as someone mentioned above amazon is out of stock, so now I'm wondering whits sites like you mentioned + Goldway via alixpsress etc...
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i received bill with price, and imei number and it say i have warranty of 24months. But anyway i have 12 months of warranty of rakuten site.
how is warranty from goldway via alixpress?

If something wrong with the phone within 1 week of arrival goldway takes full responsibility. If you have problems with the phone after that - let's say 6 months and you have problems with your charging port goldway will take care of it but you as as a customer needs to pay the delivery fee to china, which is a hussle.
The best would be when we get the phone and with the correct IMEI the warranty would be accepted by xiaomi global - like if we can directly send the phone to xiaomi and not return to the seller in china.

yes, that would be the best if we get phone direct from xiaomi shop. but when i look to order mine, i was waiting for 17jun for official site of xiaomi in france, and i add to basket, but thinking which coclour, blue or black, and it takes me 1 min to think. and then when i click to confirm and buy, it was already sold, so i had to find alternative site to buy . i was not enough patient to wait for few days more, i could buy even cheaper then for 354eur.
i dont know about warranty, for me if it is in few first, lets say weeks all ok, then what could happen if i am not alone responsable. I have bad experience with meizu, even i send and i was ready to pay all expenses for repair of my phone, they didnt do, they even break connectors from power and vol+/- keys to main borad, and phone was not able to use after. when i send notice back about that connectors, they said it was already like this when they receive my phone.
same bad experience with huawei.

Exactly. That's why i'm not sure if I want to order the phone via those sites, because like you said...what if something happens? Like, i need a new battery? I need to send the phone back.wait at least 1 month etc...and there will always be something wrong with every phone.
But as I see now, even here in Croatia the MI 9t 64gb costs the same as the 128gb on alixpress, its just too expensive here.

Pejpi said:
Exactly. That's why i'm not sure if I want to order the phone via those sites, because like you said...what if something happens? Like, i need a new battery? I need to send the phone back.wait at least 1 month etc...and there will always be something wrong with every phone.
But as I see now, even here in Croatia the MI 9t 64gb costs the same as the 128gb on alixpress, its just too expensive here.
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Izvini nisam video da si iz Hrvateske . Sorry didnt see that you are from Croatia . In Serbia mi9t cost 380eur 64GB, it will be in shop from tomorrow. if someone wants sure warranty of 24moths then i think no doubt where to buy.
I chose to buy in sites as i posted or in aliexperes, or from local site name kupujemprodajem, i have sure 1year of warranty, and if i want new battery, i just can go at local service center and ask to put me new battery. even if i have to pay. for such things, it is cheaper to pay then to send phone back to china, and wait extra month, or even two to have phone back.

slavke1976 said:
Izvini nisam video da si iz Hrvateske . Sorry didnt see that you are from Croatia .
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Nema frke, maloprije sam izmjenio.
slavke1976 said:
I chose to buy in sites as i posted or in aliexperes, or from local site name kupujemprodajem, i have sure 1year of warranty, and if i want new battery, i just can go at local service center and ask to put me new battery. even if i have to pay. for such things, it is cheaper to pay then to send phone back to china, and wait extra month, or even two to have phone back.
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Yes, but if you change for example your battery at a local dealer (not authorised) - you void your 2 year warranty which is enforced by law. At least for all electronic products for the EU, i suppose Serbia enforces it as well. Keep that in mind.
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Summa sumrum, you can change your battery wherever you like, but you lose your 2 year warranty. If i buy a phone from amazon (for example) i have a 2 year warranty by default. If i go and change something without amazon - so if i go to a local guy who can change it i lose the warranty.

you are right, but it is why we have options, to buy phone by lover price, and questioned warranty, or to buy overpriced phone with warranty ( but when it comes too, no we dont accept this, we dont accept that, .... )

FlorianReicht said:
tradingshenzhen[dot]com also recently adjusted their prices for both versions 327,-€ / 64GB and 357,-€ / 128GB
It's also said that in their next delivery they will have all three colors available
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Still waiting on that re-stock with different color variants....as of today they are none

Any idea where to get this phone for UK buyer like me. I checked honourbuy https://www.honorbuy.com/1687-xiaom...-blue.html#/option-global_version_6128gb_blue and its coming from Germany which is fine but then in checkout delivery I found additional shipping cost to UK €17.00 added to it.

xdadeem said:
Any idea where to get this phone for UK buyer like me. I checked honourbuy https://www.honorbuy.com/1687-xiaom...-blue.html#/option-global_version_6128gb_blue and its coming from Germany which is fine but then in checkout delivery I found additional shipping cost to UK €17.00 added to it.
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Yea,that kind of bummed me out a bit too,there not exactly selling the phone at it's cheapest either but if you wanted to get it quick it's an option,I would check eBay,or Amazon if you want the 64gb version,
I haven't found a site that doesn't charge extra for shipping besides eglobal but I find them very dodgy,(though I've heard good things also)

manus31 said:
Yea,that kind of bummed me out a bit too,there not exactly selling the phone at it's cheapest either but if you wanted to get it quick it's an option,I would check eBay,or Amazon if you want the 64gb version,
I haven't found a site that doesn't charge extra for shipping besides eglobal but I find them very dodgy,(though I've heard good things also)
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eglobal is cheap at the moment and dropping price,currently its £261 there but they dont have any accessory and yes they I have heard things about but not as bad as tobydeals.
I was also torn between mi 9 I really like it but the headphone jack absence killed it for me

xdadeem said:
eglobal is cheap at the moment and dropping price,currently its £261 there but they dont have any accessory and yes they I have heard things about but not as bad as tobydeals.
I was also torn between mi 9 I really like it but the headphone jack absence killed it for me
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I had a really weird experience with eglobal today that put me off them all together.I added my personal info in and was thinking hard on the 9T in my cart but had to leave the site to get back to work
Got about 10 missed calls throughout the morning from places like Africa,Burundi, Switzerland, definitely scamming attempts ,then this evening got email from eglobal saying I'd left an item in my cart just click here price is 9999,I'm sure if I clicked they would of tried to charge me that.
Looking elsewhere now,but still unsure as have a 6T at the moment but really like the 9T design and cameras. The mi 9 is too similar to my 6T. Also kind of keen on the k20 pro so thinking might be worth waiting for a mi 9T pro

manus31 said:
I had a really weird experience with eglobal today that put me off them all together.I added my personal info in and was thinking hard on the 9T in my cart but had to leave the site to get back to work
Got about 10 missed calls throughout the morning from places like Africa,Burundi, Switzerland, definitely scamming attempts ,then this evening got email from eglobal saying I'd left an item in my cart just click here price is 9999,I'm sure if I clicked they would of tried to charge me that.
Looking elsewhere now,but still unsure as have a 6T at the moment but really like the 9T design and cameras. The mi 9 is too similar to my 6T. Also kind of keen on the k20 pro so thinking might be worth waiting for a mi 9T pro
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wow... scammers... Burundi in Africa, even Switzerland? wow...are you in UK or where are you. I am in UK.
The decision with 9t is because I dont need all that selfie camera movement, I am fine with simple stuff but then the fact that I cant charge phone and use my head phone at same time is not good.
The its more expensive and yeah... its the headphone input that killed it.
Do you know when Mi 9T pro is coming out?

xdadeem said:
wow... scammers... Burundi in Africa, even Switzerland? wow...are you in UK or where are you. I am in UK.
The decision with 9t is because I dont need all that selfie camera movement, I am fine with simple stuff but then the fact that I cant charge phone and use my head phone at same time is not good.
The its more expensive and yeah... its the headphone input that killed it.
Do you know when Mi 9T pro is coming out?
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Romours are it will come in September but that's not confirmed.but you can get the k20 pro with Chinese software at the moment but no band 20 for 4G.
I'm in Ireland but there nothing over here and we use UK plugs so interested in all UK relevant stores. Yea the headphone is pretty much dead on most brands,I don't mind because I never use it

How To Buy Way Cheaper Chinese a Variant

The thread title says it all. Rather curious how I can get my hands on the Chinese version. I'm an American living in States, but those prices are ridiculously lower. The handset itself is supposed to be identical. Anyone know how I can order one?

Kind of crappy for OnePlus to charge America an extra $137. Fake tariff response.
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_8_and_8_pro_launch_in_china_you_wont_like_the_prices-news-42716.php

Chinese 12GB 256GB in black with oxygen OS
Ordered mine for £780 inc delivery, hopefully will be delivered before the weekend. Sooooo excited I've loved my OP5T but so looking forward to wireless charging, IP68, OIS 120Hz etc.

tickertapes said:
Ordered mine for £780 inc delivery, hopefully will be delivered before the weekend. Sooooo excited I've loved my OP5T but so looking forward to wireless charging, IP68, OIS 120Hz etc.
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Where did you purchase it from? With the reports of the screen issues in some phones im hesitant to order from another country in case OnePlus have an issues with warranties with phones from different regions

tickertapes said:
Ordered mine for £780 inc delivery, hopefully will be delivered before the weekend. Sooooo excited I've loved my OP5T but so looking forward to wireless charging, IP68, OIS 120Hz etc.
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can you tell me exactly what you did to accomplish this bro? Like step-by-step. I'm assuming you went to oneplus.com/cn and used Google translate to navigate through? And it'll allow you to ship to United States?

Burt Squirtz said:
can you tell me exactly what you did to accomplish this bro? Like step-by-step. I'm assuming you went to oneplus.com/cn and used Google translate to navigate through? And it'll allow you to ship to United States?
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No. He most likely purchased it on a site like Wonda Mobile dot com or Trading Shenzhen dot com.

jericho246 said:
No. He most likely purchased it on a site like Wonda Mobile dot com or Trading Shenzhen dot com.
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Yep, you got it. According to DHL tracking it's in the UK already ?
I've bought phones from Wonda before without issues.

Burt Squirtz said:
The thread title says it all. Rather curious how I can get my hands on the Chinese version. I'm an American living in States, but those prices are ridiculously lower. The handset itself is supposed to be identical. Anyone know how I can order one?
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The handset won't be identical
The Chinese version will be missing out on quite a few LTE/5G bands support in the states
4G Bands missing from China/India variant compared to US variant- B13, 25, 28, 29, 30, 66, 71
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https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/g5870q/psa_chinaindias_op8_is_cheaper_but_itll_be/

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The handset won't be identical
The Chinese version will be missing out on quite a few LTE/5G bands support in the states
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/g5870q/psa_chinaindias_op8_is_cheaper_but_itll_be/
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I have bought foreign phones before and have always found ways to enable/disable bands as needed.. The Snapdragon is very versatile. I'm hoping that installing the international oxygen OS rom will configure the bands. When I get the device I will thoroughly test every band and let you know how I get on.

evilhomura89 said:
The handset won't be identical
The Chinese version will be missing out on quite a few LTE/5G bands support in the states
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/g5870q/psa_chinaindias_op8_is_cheaper_but_itll_be/
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I still have DFS tools installed on my desktop. The last time I went down this route I ended up enabling every band there was.. naughty but fun.

tickertapes said:
I still have DFS tools installed on my desktop. The last time I went down this route I ended up enabling every band there was.. naughty but fun.
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Haha your post cracks me up, mate. Did you ever get the band unlocked? I'm torn between waiting four more days until it's available in the US, or getting it off of Wonda.
Perhaps you can help me decide. When the phone arrived, did it look brand-spanking-new? Or were there fingerprints all over it? After all, they had to manually flash the international version of OOS I'm assuming? and did it come in original packaging? Or do they just take the components out and just stick it in a random box?

tickertapes said:
Yep, you got it. According to DHL tracking it's in the UK already ?
I've bought phones from Wonda before without issues.
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Careful the Chinese version is missing a few of the bands we use here. Think o2 is fine but the rest need band 32 I think for lte advance so you may get slower 4g speeds if on Three voda ee or their mvno's.
Maybe you can unlock bands. Wonda mobile a great trustworthy store

I'm in Canada and bought a pro 256gb from Alibaba for about 1240 CAD all in. Flashed with global ROM.
Very risky for general user but I've been buying equipment and components for my company from Alibaba for years now. I personally have never had an issue (with fraud anyways)

mlkemac said:
I'm in Canada and bought a pro 256gb from Alibaba for about 1240 CAD all in. Flashed with global ROM.
Very risky for general user but I've been buying equipment and components for my company from Alibaba for years now. I personally have never had an issue (with fraud anyways)
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Well, just setting up my Chinese black OP8 and all seems well. VoWIFI, VoLTE, everything working beautifully. I've got a
12 GB model for less than the 8GB model. Happy bunny.

tickertapes said:
Well, just setting up my Chinese black OP8 and all seems well. VoWIFI, VoLTE, everything working beautifully. I've got a
12 GB model for less than the 8GB model. Happy bunny.
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From Where you got it...

Burt Squirtz said:
Haha your post cracks me up, mate. Did you ever get the band unlocked? I'm torn between waiting four more days until it's available in the US, or getting it off of Wonda.
Perhaps you can help me decide. When the phone arrived, did it look brand-spanking-new? Or were there fingerprints all over it? After all, they had to manually flash the international version of OOS I'm assuming? and did it come in original packaging? Or do they just take the components out and just stick it in a random box?
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The seal on the box was broken to upgrade the firmware but the device was still wrapped in its protective film. I'm currently on band 20 VoLTE and the device is identifying itself as the international version. I suspect the relevant bands were enabled/disabled with the ROM change.

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Wonda mobile.

Question for those using chinese version in USA.
How is it working?
I want the green 256GB version and dual Sim. So going down this route might be my best option.
Only problem I see is if I have a screen issue, will be harder to return.
What do you guys think? Thanks for the replies.

I have used Wonda Mobile and returned a mobile with no issues, you pay for shipping if you change your mind with a fee but if it's faulty they will reimburse you.

I have ordered many times from Wonda Mobile, can't rate them high enough. My 8 Pro was shipped on Monday and I had it by Saturday, 12/256gb £100 cheaper......:good:

Ordering a Oneplus 8 Pro from abroad? Need some info!

So, i notice sites like Giztop and Aliexpress sell the Chinese variant of OnePlus 8 Pro for very cheap. Around 800-900 bucks. and they advertise with "global rom" What does this mean? Can they actually flash on a real Global ROM, entirely supported by OnePlus already on the CN versions? What do i lose by getting a CN version over a global version that i can buy in a store in my country for 1100bucks?
I am torn on buying a OnePlus 8 Pro CN version for 850bucks or the Sony Xperia 1 Pro for 1200dollars global from my country. But that is quite the price difference. On the other hand, i'm scared of the supposed massive OP 8 Pro screen issues? are those more prevalent on the CN versions? i see people reporting major loss in max screen brightness, calibration being way off, green tints etc etc? Hoping someone here can give some reassurance. I feel like the safe option is the Sony, but yeah dunno.

If you're buying the device from "abroad" recommend you send flowers first.
"Sorry I'm bored "

Cakkerlakker said:
So, i notice sites like Giztop and Aliexpress sell the Chinese variant of OnePlus 8 Pro for very cheap. Around 800-900 bucks. and they advertise with "global rom" What does this mean? Can they actually flash on a real Global ROM, entirely supported by OnePlus already on the CN versions? What do i lose by getting a CN version over a global version that i can buy in a store in my country for 1100bucks?
I am torn on buying a OnePlus 8 Pro CN version for 850bucks or the Sony Xperia 1 Pro for 1200dollars global from my country. But that is quite the price difference. On the other hand, i'm scared of the supposed massive OP 8 Pro screen issues? are those more prevalent on the CN versions? i see people reporting major loss in max screen brightness, calibration being way off, green tints etc etc? Hoping someone here can give some reassurance. I feel like the safe option is the Sony, but yeah dunno.
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Nothing wrong..
IN2020 China
IN 2021 INDIA
IN 2023 EU
IN 2025 GLOBAL
These phones are probably the chinese (IN2020) with global rom..
Go for it ..on alli 760€ the 8/128 pro

just do note in2025 even its dual sim only works with single sim

cultofluna said:
Nothing wrong..
IN2020 China
IN 2021 INDIA
IN 2023 EU
IN 2025 GLOBAL
These phones are probably the chinese (IN2020) with global rom..
Go for it ..on alli 760€ the 8/128 pro
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So it doesn't matter if i get the Chinese version or not? It's still the same rom as the 2025 global? There is no difference at all?

Ok let's get this straight..
First and foremost.
No one, in any situation unless you want to our feel like losing all your money, should order anything from the likes of Ali Express.
The clue is in the name.
if you want a Oneplus phone, then order it from the correct channels.
Or get it on contract, or be ready to sit through a total turd storm when you need to return to sender.
The likes of Ali Express shouldn't even be mentioned in XDA im amazed that you've been allowed to name this thread.
Ali Express is one toe dipped into the dark web, recognizable by the amount of bad deals you think you're going to get but don't.
Short answer??
Avoid Ali, period.
Pay for the phone you want and stop spreading misinformation, unless you're in China and in a OnePlus sellers shop..

Modem is probably the key factor. The band support is what you'll need.
I, too, have wondered also. iN2020 supports n41 5g but not sure if that's the same 41 that Tmo uses. If so, that would be great

dladz said:
Ok let's get this straight..
First and foremost.
No one, in any situation unless you want to our feel like losing all your money, should order anything from the likes of Ali Express.
The clue is in the name.
Don't be a complete idiot, if you want a Oneplus phone, then order it from the correct channels.
Or get it on contract, or be ready to sit through a total turd storm when you need to return to sender.
The likes of Ali Express shouldn't even be mentioned in XDA im amazed that you've been allowed to name this thread.
Ali Express is one toe dipped into the dark web, recognizable by the amount of bad deals you think you're going to get but don't.
Short answer??
Avoid Ali, period.
Pay for the phone you want and stop spreading misinformation, unless you're in China and in a OnePlus sellers shop..
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Mate, what are you talking about. Nothing about this post was even remotely true. AliExpress is pretty reputable. It's basically the Chinese Amazon. This isn't the wild west days of 2010 with Chinese e-commerce.
I order stuff off AliExpress all the time. 99% of time something arrives as advertised. When it doesn't - I just open a claim and I get my money back. Items take longer these days to arrive due to ePacket and covid-19 - but I always get what I ordered.
I think you might be thinking of Alibaba, which also in turn has dramatically improved in the last few years.

Burt Squirtz said:
Mate, what are you talking about. Nothing about this post was even remotely true. AliExpress is pretty reputable. It's basically the Chinese Amazon. This isn't the wild west days of 2010 with Chinese e-commerce.
I order stuff off AliExpress all the time. 99% of time something arrives as advertised. When it doesn't - I just open a claim and I get my money back. Items take longer these days to arrive due to ePacket and covid-19 - but I always get what I ordered.
I think you might be thinking of Alibaba, which also in turn has dramatically improved in the last few years.
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Totally agree..
Bought 3 devices from alli( op5, xiaomi mi 6, mi9lite)
2 pairs of buds , mi box..etc...
Never had a problem , very fast shipping....
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Cakkerlakker said:
So it doesn't matter if i get the Chinese version or not? It's still the same rom as the 2025 global? There is no difference at all?
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Its the Chinese model (IN2020) with global ROM (IN11AA)
The same ROM as the IN2025 model
I will also order one next month..

You could also try Wonda Mobile, they are based in Hong Kong. They have a complete section of faq on the actual device, the only main difference would be the bands like 5g. They also have a section which lists them so have a look at that to make sure your network supports it.

I bought a OnePlus 8 Pro from Giztop and it's the Chinese version with Oxygen OS on it. I immediately regret it and now I can't return it. If you're in the US, don't do it.

JodyBreeze901 said:
I bought a OnePlus 8 Pro from Giztop and it's the Chinese version with Oxygen OS on it. I immediately regret it and now I can't return it. If you're in the US, don't do it.
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No option to return if you change your mind even paying a restocking fee?

JodyBreeze901 said:
I bought a OnePlus 8 Pro from Giztop and it's the Chinese version with Oxygen OS on it. I immediately regret it and now I can't return it. If you're in the US, don't do it.
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Why regret it?

surge27 said:
Modem is probably the key factor. The band support is what you'll need.
I, too, have wondered also. iN2020 supports n41 5g but not sure if that's the same 41 that Tmo uses. If so, that would be great
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I was looking at it when you couldn't get one in the US. The bands (n71 and n41) were the issue.
So far, have not seen any post from anyone in US TMO that has one that works on LTE and 5G over here.

gaww said:
I was looking at it when you couldn't get one in the US. The bands (n71 and n41) were the issue.
So far, have not seen any post from anyone in US TMO that has one that works on LTE and 5G over here.
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Ya, 41 is on iN2020 but not sure if it's actually the same 41 here in U.S.

surge27 said:
Ya, 41 is on iN2020 but not sure if it's actually the same 41 here in U.S.
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Yeah - that's an issue, but 6000 mhz n71 is also big , as it both supports LTE and 5G. I didn't see that at all.

wilpang said:
No option to return if you change your mind even paying a restocking fee?
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I can't afford to be without a phone for a month maybe more. My job requires me to have a cell phone and my note 5 backup finally died on me. So I'm stuck with this phone unfortunately

JodyBreeze901 said:
I can't afford to be without a phone for a month maybe more. My job requires me to have a cell phone and my note 5 backup finally died on me. So I'm stuck with this phone unfortunately
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But again, what's wrong with it?..

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But again, what's wrong with it?..
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Well, for one I'm missing a few bands compared to the IN2023 version. That's the most important thing to me. Two, I honestly feel like the 5g is not as strong due to me missing those bands.

Hey, just to give my 2 cents about ordering this phone from China....
Just did it and went for the 12/256 Ultramarine Oneplus 8 Pro at the end of April for about $930 USD, shipping included, on AliExpress.
Took a LONG time to arrive to me (6 weeks!) BUT... Phone is perfect, no defect, screen is gorgeous and nothing wrong with it, even though it is probably a "first batch" unit. Got a Chinese IN2020 unit flashed by seller with Global ROM (came with 10.5.3 or 10.5.4 ROM out of the box), had a pre-applied (plastic) screen protector that will allow me to wait a few more days/weeks to get my UV 3D glass screen protectors for a better protection and better light transmittance. Unit looked new, with all the packaging (even though it was flashed to Global ROM by seller, but still, they managed to make it look like it has never even been turned on, as the phone box itself was still fully wrapped/sealed with plastic).
Once turned on, immediately updated to 10.5.8 Global without any problem, unlocked bootloader, booted to latest TWRP, Rooted of course and applied my usual Magisk modules, as well as flashed a custom kernel (Omega, to be precise). Tweaked my unit to my desire, installed a Gcam to have more options regarding photography, and... well ,that's all, mate!
Nothing much to say, except I'm delighted by my purchase and by this phone for now! Coming from a Oneplus 5T with custom Android Q ROM, it is a BIG step ahead and definitely impressive piece of hardware. However, in terms of speed, can't say the difference is huge (sure, OP8 Pro is faster, but not by a 100X, not even a 2X factor when you use it normally).
If you have an opportunity to buy the Chinese version at a good price from AE or any other reseller, offering some warranty in case something goes wrong during transportation or with the unit itself of course, and if you are not able to get it from your local store (it was and still is not easily available in my country at a decent price right now), then go on and do it! Just remember, unless you go for DHL or other fast shipping carrier, you'll have to be patient.
Cheers!