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Hello guys ..i have g3 32gb.. I was thinking to get opo..the g3 very good phone but i like changing phones .. So which one do you think its better ..g3 or opo ??
never had g3, came from N3 --- opo is great upgrade
See this thread:
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Thanks guys ..but is there anyone who used both phones?? Cos these ppl can really tell which one is better
Akhayev said:
Thanks guys ..but is there anyone who used both phones?? Cos these ppl can really tell which one is better
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Only you can tell what's better for you. Read the review, specs, features, etc. and make a decision that fits your priorities.
Akhayev said:
Thanks guys ..but is there anyone who used both phones?? Cos these ppl can really tell which one is better
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I have both and even though I sold my 1+1 when I got my G3 I ended up getting another 1+1 just over a week ago and I have been using it since and if push came to shove then I think I would pick the 1+1
I'm not sure what it was that made me sell my other one, maybe it was because of the small amount of yellow tint that it had. Things I prefer about the G3 is the removable battery and sd card. I prefer the look of the 1+1 but the feel of the G3(I don't like the sandstone) The screen is better on the G3 but not by much and if I looked at one today and the other tomorrow I wouldn't notice the difference. Battery life is much better on the 1+1 and it stays a lot cooler doing the same things(I don't play games)
Hope this helps.
Akhayev said:
Hello guys ..i have g3 32gb.. I was thinking to get opo..the g3 very good phone but i like changing phones .. So which one do you think its better ..g3 or opo ??
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Again there are threads set up for this type of talk. I do not understand people who need others to make up there mind for them. Sorry if you feel I am disrespectful but why dont you simply look up the specs and user remarks on the phones and make your own educated decision.
Asking random people in a forum that may not have both phones just does not make sense to me. Again my apologies but do some reading go to the store and get a feel for G3 and see if you can borrow a friends 1=
+. Worse case buy both and sell the one you dont like
When the G3 has full functional ROMs it will be able to compete w/the opo.
In the meantime the g3 is a dog that must be seriously modded to come near the stock performance on the opo.
I own both.
Akhayev said:
Hello guys ..i have g3 32gb.. I was thinking to get opo..the g3 very good phone but i like changing phones .. So which one do you think its better ..g3 or opo ??
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I have 2 G3's and an OPO. I like my OPO way more than my G3's. I'm selling them and keeping my OPO
Akhayev said:
Hello guys ..i have g3 32gb.. I was thinking to get opo..the g3 very good phone but i like changing phones .. So which one do you think its better ..g3 or opo ??
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I'm like you. I get bored of my devices after a couple of months of use. With that being said, I believe each device has it's strength. The OPO will yield you more screen size, battery life, front-facing camera, and speakers. The G3 will give you better resolution, rear-facing camera, and portability. I absolutely love my OPO and with the price of the N6, I'm really glad I chose it. I'm running Mahdi and AK kernel on it and this thing absolutely flies.
With that being said, I'd trade my OPO for a G3. It's in absolute mint condition (tempered glass and case since day one). Like I said, I love new toys.
Opo
One plus one definitely!
Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks
I've been wondering about the future of ROM's myself since this whole thing went down. However, there still is "Open Bump", but I'd actually feel terrible using it. Seems like it would just be a slap in the face to Team CodeFire. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens from now on. I'm happy that I just got Lollipop on my vs985, but worried about future development :/
ryand274 said:
Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks
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At somepoint, if yoi xan afford it, then go for it .
My opinion
G3 ia good device but i believe snapdragon 801 wasnt meant for 2k display..805 will handle it better..yes there is bump(thanks to respected dev :')), but still it all depends on out rom devs who give their precious time amd develop roms for us.. G3 will have less than nexus6 thats for sure..nexus 6 will enjoy official support from all custom rom teams like cm/PA, while we quite arent yet..
So changing to nexus can be good(if you dont mind nexus UI, coz am using cm12 and am loving it ),. You will loose all g3 goodness though..that awesome camera with lasee focus,compact bazel screen body and all.. But it shouldnt bother you if you arent big time photographer and as you mentioned you are big time CUSTOM ROAMER(that should br a word, hmm..sounds cool ..we gotta ask oxford to ask it and make it official,hahaha)
Nexus 6 might sound all new and cool and almost same price of g3 but it might have its own limitations too.
No optimus ui
No laser focus
Too big pahblet screen
Okay-ish camera many says
No extra features as will have stock android only
Pros-
Nexus so latest google updates
Snapdragon 805+ 2k screen is actually good combination, thats the reason we also have an 805 version of g3 in korea..(still its not good on benchmarks, dont know why)
Screen is amoled
Official custom rom teams support
Blah blah
So choose your poison..
If i was at your place, i would have been confused too, i would have tried the device in hand once(its performace and handeling of 2k display), and then go for it.
I dont think its design is issur for you, coz you wouldnt have asked it if you would have hated moto x type design of nexus 6(as many do hate)
Good luck mate
raghavsharmaxda said:
At somepoint, if yoi xan afford it, then go for it .
My opinion
G3 ia good device but i believe snapdragon 801 wasnt meant for 2k display..805 will handle it better..yes there is bump(thanks to respected dev :')), but still it all depends on out rom devs who give their precious time amd develop roms for us.. G3 will have less than nexus6 thats for sure..nexus 6 will enjoy official support from all custom rom teams like cm/PA, while we quite arent yet..
So changing to nexus can be good(if you dont mind nexus UI, coz am using cm12 and am loving it ),. You will loose all g3 goodness though..that awesome camera with lasee focus,compact bazel screen body and all.. But it shouldnt bother you if you arent big time photographer and as you mentioned you are big time CUSTOM ROAMER(that should br a word, hmm..sounds cool ..we gotta ask oxford to ask it and make it official,hahaha)
Nexus 6 might sound all new and cool and almost same price of g3 but it might have its own limitations too.
No optimus ui
No laser focus
Too big pahblet screen
Okay-ish camera many says
No extra features as will have stock android only
Pros-
Nexus so latest google updates
Snapdragon 805+ 2k screen is actually good combination, thats the reason we also have an 805 version of g3 in korea..(still its not good on benchmarks, dont know why)
Screen is amoled
Official custom rom teams support
Blah blah
So choose your poison..
If i was at your place, i would have been confused too, i would have tried the device in hand once(its performace and handeling of 2k display), and then go for it.
I dont think its design is issur for you, coz you wouldnt have asked it if you would have hated moto x type design of nexus 6(as many do hate)
Good luck mate
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Thanks for the good device and I think sticking with this is my decision after thinking about this phone does have problems but also has pros to I'm just worried that since the bump site has gone cm12 and other lollipop ROMs (which I am loving BTW) will stop being updated and remain as a buggy mess as they are( not terrible but not great) I guess I'll just wait and see what happens thanks for an amazing reply bug help dude
bb12489 said:
I've been wondering about the future of ROM's myself since this whole thing went down. However, there still is "Open Bump", but I'd actually feel terrible using it. Seems like it would just be a slap in the face to Team CodeFire. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens from now on. I'm happy that I just got Lollipop on my vs985, but worried about future development :/
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Same with me I don't care about having loads of ROMs I would just love one aosp lollipop ROM that has everything and even quick circle support if that happened this device will be incredible, and I haven't heard of this open bump? Is there a thread for this I'd like to see this for myself thanks for the reply
Just to clarify for everyone the BUMP site has being shut down but bump is NOT gone at all we have an offline python script that can do it.
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ryand274 said:
Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks
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Bump is not dead by any means and the end-users will likely not notice any degradation in ROM development. The Open Bump option is still available and many devs will use this. Team Codefire may also privately Bump builds for certain devs. It boils down to the fact that several developers threw hissy fits over Open Bump. I understand the reason they are mad about another dev making their exploit public, but the amount of drama surrounding this is abit ridiculous and there are arguments for both sides. This is a topic for another day, just know that Bump is not dead and development for the G3 will continue, don't worry. Bump has already been implemented into the nightly builds of CM12 so it's not going anywhere. Just never take an OTA update now if you want to keep TWRP.
Thread needs to be closed bump still works just different way of doing it is all roms will still be here
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So if I buy a G3 now, i'd still be able to root it and install a custom ROM on it then?
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So if I buy a G3 now, i'd still be able to root it and install a custom ROM on it then?
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Of course. You can flash anything at the moment. The things you can flash however is a bit limited.
ymcc said:
Of course. You can flash anything at the moment. The things you can flash however is a bit limited.
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I am looking to get xposed on it. would that be possible?
Cheers!
soldier16 said:
I am looking to get xposed on it. would that be possible?
Cheers!
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Yes.
but you must never update to lollipop to get xposed to work
What actually happened to Bump?
I know the thread got closed, but what happened?
MalekoUK said:
What actually happened to Bump?
I know the thread got closed, but what happened?
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People demand many stuff like develeoper has to make them. He got mad and he is right and stopped the support and delete his work.
DelBoy said:
People demand many stuff like develeoper has to make them. He got mad and he is right and stopped the support and delete his work.
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That isn't what happened, they made bump some guy got a stolen lg key to sign the boot.IMG files and also use there way yo bump and made it open source for everyone to use, the guy put credits to them but they had a tantrum cuz someone might have worked out how to do it and made it open source so anyone could use it without have to sign up for some ****ty website
Yez cuz iz biggerz.
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I'm not a developer, but from a price standpoint, there is no doubt ... The G3 with 32GB / 3GB ram cost me 1/2 the price of the Nexus 6. I believe for the money, the G3 is a fantastic device. Now, I know most people in the US will buy it on contract and won't have to put up 700 dollars (or 700 euros in my case) for a phone. But I believe techwise the N6 is a great phone, but I don't think it's worth the 700 euros (circa 1000 USD) while I got the G3 for almost half the price, and I had gone with the 16gb / 2gb ram version it would have been less than half.
If money isn't an issue, go for the N6. It will see development for years to come. But I really like the camera on the G3 and the size. 6 inches is really big for a phone in my usage.
Who told you the lie that Bump is gone? I'm still bumping my kernel here with a .py script =)
Well I have to say, or rather share my depression from the lack of custom ROMS, zip, zilch, nada...
Since selling my Nexus 5, I've been checking the forums on this device more then I care to admit, hoping I see some [ROM] tags start to pop up on topics, I feel like i'm going through a withdraw, and a sudden withdraw, it's hard...
I don't even have a reason to root, other then trying to get some apps to work, couple that with the idea that unlocking bootloader on my Moto X 2014 Pure Edition feels like i'm doing something wrong, the act of doing that somehow downgrades the device, despite the device not loosing warranty...
Last concern is that flashing a custom recovery, and/or unrooting, updating OTA's, and flashing in general feels still untested/dangerous on this device.
I feel hopeless, I feel like I want to get the OnePlus One, and sell this device - The OPO Is so much cheaper, so much more for the money, plus it's got a TON of ROMs for it!.
Nexus 4 owner here. I feel ya! But this phone is as close to perfect as we can get. The only thing that bothers me is that we have to choose between moto display or ambient display. Imagine ambient display working with the sensors. So many possibilities with this phone. Maybe the dev section will blossom soon.
Yeah the dev support for both Moto Xs has been pretty scarce. I used to flash A LOT on my old HTC last year but I finally settled down with Paranoid Android. I'm rooted but there's no urge to flash for me mainly because of how barebones lollipop roms are. It's funny & a bit disheartening to be honest that my 2 year old device has multiple lollipop roms though :/
I come from a S3 [i9300] and I know the feel!! My External SD Card was filled only with CWM Backups / Titanium Backups and a range of roms
Had a 16 GB external SD card + 16 internal.. Don't miss the storage but yes do miss the flashing of the ROMs
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Nexus 4 owner here. I feel ya! But this phone is as close to perfect as we can get. The only thing that bothers me is that we have to choose between moto display or ambient display. Imagine ambient display working with the sensors. So many possibilities with this phone. Maybe the dev section will blossom soon.
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Ambient Display is nice, I love it.
Was never a big fan of moto display, maybe if it was a bit more interesting, maybe if they did some more design to it to update it a bit, I would totally looooove if they did something with it that looks like the b&w side of this one
Or did something interesting with rendering the background dimly of the phone
Sorry Phandroid, I took an image of yours and used it to illustrate an idea.
Shemploo said:
I feel hopeless, I feel like I want to get the OnePlus One, and sell this device - The OPO Is so much cheaper, so much more for the money, plus it's got a TON of ROMs for it!.
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I feel exactly like you!
I'm happy of the device (it works very well) but I need something to flash...I need it!!!
Shemploo said:
Well I have to say, or rather share my depression from the lack of custom ROMS, zip, zilch, nada...
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If you're unhappy with the lack of custom ROMs you could always learn how to develop and get the ball rolling. There are plenty of resources available.
I used to have the Moto G before this beast and I am more than happy. In my old G I used to flash Roms every week but that was more for the lack of performance and sensors. Now I am with moto X 1097 and I converted it to 1095 and I have to say: that's all I need. I hope with time developers will surprise us with some great things but by now this phone is close to perfect
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Well I have to say, or rather share my depression from the lack of custom ROMS, zip, zilch, nada...
Since selling my Nexus 5, I've been checking the forums on this device more then I care to admit, hoping I see some [ROM] tags start to pop up on topics, I feel like i'm going through a withdraw, and a sudden withdraw, it's hard...
I don't even have a reason to root, other then trying to get some apps to work, couple that with the idea that unlocking bootloader on my Moto X 2014 Pure Edition feels like i'm doing something wrong, the act of doing that somehow downgrades the device, despite the device not loosing warranty...
Last concern is that flashing a custom recovery, and/or unrooting, updating OTA's, and flashing in general feels still untested/dangerous on this device.
I feel hopeless, I feel like I want to get the OnePlus One, and sell this device - The OPO Is so much cheaper, so much more for the money, plus it's got a TON of ROMs for it!.
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Interesting... I think that the main reason why there are no roms is that almost everyone that has this phone is more than happy with the features we have. I used to be like that too. When I first got my first moto x I thought it was absurd not having roms for it. Then I started noticing how fast the phone was and I found that most of the stuff I looked for on roms (improved performance and no bloatware) was already there! Same goes for the new x. Between lollipop and moto software I really see no point.
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juliospinoza said:
I used to have the Moto G before this beast and I am more than happy. In my old G I used to flash Roms every week but that was more for the lack of performance and sensors. Now I am with moto X 1097 and I converted it to 1095 and I have to say: that's all I need. I hope with time developers will surprise us with some great things but by now this phone is close to perfect
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I'm hoping what I did with my note 3 doesn't happen to me again..there was 0 development for the first 6 months or so of device release and I sold it..a month later there were a ton of ROMs available.. That being said I'm happy currently without a ROM..but I am watching the thread in original development closely as he has brought some great cm ROMs to devices that weren't supported in the past
I grew tired of flashing ROMs years ago. The Moto X is super refreshing in that it is perfect the way it is and I don't need to flash a ROM to get it to perform the way I want. Just use Xposed and a couple modules and I am a happy camper.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I grew tired of flashing ROMs years ago. The Moto X is super refreshing in that it is perfect the way it is and I don't need to flash a ROM to get it to perform the way I want. Just use Xposed and a couple modules and I am a happy camper.
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Well. I am in Lollipop and Xposed is not supported. And by far, Android 5 is superior than 4.4. No regrets at all but more development will be appreciated
juliospinoza said:
Well. I am in Lollipop and Xposed is not supported. And by far, Android 5 is superior than 4.4. No regrets at all but more development will be appreciated
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I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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This is pretty simple - If you miss flashing ROM's sooooo much, sell your Moto X and buy a phone with a big dev community. Problem solved.
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I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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Def to each his own. I could never see myself going back to 4.4 even with Xposed. Lollipop is so much nicer!
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I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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Wow! Nice to see that side. I am IN LOVE with lollipop, i could never use kitkat again. If i had an n5 like you and saw lollipop i coudnt live with my moto x not having it. Then again, to get lollipop on verizon is literally why i bought this phone
I agree 100% with Diesel
For the others with a problem of no ROMS, why not take the time you spent flashing ROMS and learn to develop a new ROM. You will get what you want and make plenty of others happy at the same time. The tools are free and readily available if you search.
Diesel779 said:
This is pretty simple - If you miss flashing ROM's sooooo much, sell your Moto X and buy a phone with a big dev community. Problem solved.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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disagree? sending from an iPhone? :highfive:
Xposed is a great tool for those who want to keep stock and have a taste of developers performance.
Lollipop at soak sucks, but when is official is great. As I said, I love the performance, battery and looks of the new android... and in my old moto G was not the same, even with CM 12
regards my good fellow
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disagree? sending from an iPhone? :highfive:
Xposed is a great tool for those who want to keep stock and have a taste of developers performance.
Lollipop at soak sucks, but when is official is great. As I said, I love the performance, battery and looks of the new android... and in my old moto G was not the same, even with CM 12
regards my good fellow
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Yep, sent from an iPhone
I get why everyone likes Lollipop, it's just not for me. At least not yet. I have plenty of experience with it, I just keep going back to KitKat every time.
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Yep, sent from an iPhone
I get why everyone likes Lollipop, it's just not for me. At least not yet. I have plenty of experience with it, I just keep going back to KitKat every time.
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well, it dependes of the person, I am using Android since 1.6 (Motorola X1, iDen technology) and now, Lollipop for ME is just amazing, maybe I need to use iPhone to see what is the big deal about it :fingers-crossed:
With Sony's awesome commitment to having buildable AOSP ROMs for many of their phones hosted on Github, you would think that the ROM community would be abuzz with development. Why is it that there are only a few AOSP choices?
I would love a Google Play Edition-style ROM for the Z3C. Anyone else?
yes me too really don't know why.. only thing I can think is that there are just a few devs having this phone.. many goes for samsung crap!! :crying:
Probably because unlocking the bootloader kills some of the enhancements that make it such a good phone. To be successful, third party ROMs need to offer clear benefits without hobbling features.
Also, Sony's ROMs are clean (like Motorola's). So Sony users aren't trying to escape a bulky overlay like TouchWiz or HTC's Sense.
xd1936 said:
With Sony's awesome commitment to having buildable AOSP ROMs for many of their phones hosted on Github, you would think that the ROM community would be abuzz with development. Why is it that there are only a few AOSP choices?
I would love a Google Play Edition-style ROM for the Z3C. Anyone else?
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My suspicion is that, because people often want to work on the latest thing, we missed the boat because of how long it took to root without losing DRM keys.
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Probably because unlocking the bootloader kills some of the enhancements that make it such a good phone.
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What enhancements? lol
I would pick a GPE over Sony's any day. I'm still blaming google for making the N6 too damn big
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Probably because unlocking the bootloader kills some of the enhancements that make it such a good phone. To be successful, third party ROMs need to offer clear benefits without hobbling features.
Also, Sony's ROMs are clean (like Motorola's). So Sony users aren't trying to escape a bulky overlay like TouchWiz or HTC's Sense.
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How clean is "clean"? I'm looking for a replacement for my 2013 Moto X, and this is one of the phones that piqued my interest.
I had two 2013 Moto X phones. The Z3 Compact is exactly the device I always wanted the Moto X to be. And then some.
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we missed the boat because of how long it took to root without losing DRM keys.
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Totally agree with you.
At the beginning there were many devs which couldn't unlock because of warranty risks. :crying:
I guess this is the only reason, as the device is really fantastic.
Yes, now we are a good number and keep growing... but, actually, we are almost good users, nothing more...
WE NEED MORE DEVELOPERS
...and if there wasn't a reward for root, nothing would have happened so far. That's the sad truth...
cpurick said:
I had two 2013 Moto X phones. The Z3 Compact is exactly the device I always wanted the Moto X to be. And then some.
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That's encouraging! Thanks for the thoughts. As a big fan of the Google Play Edition devices, I was hesitant to go for a phone with Sony's customization. Glad to hear they're not too intrusive.
not too intrusive, actually i even like the UI, but still dozens of bloat/useless stuff.. btw you can debloat it so not a big deal
For me I would love to see slimroms kitkat for our device, I would sacrifice DRM for that. But saying that I would be happy if someone could integrate notification bar brightness control and proper dark UI theme
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xd1936 said:
How clean is "clean"? I'm looking for a replacement for my 2013 Moto X, and this is one of the phones that piqued my interest.
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I have several devices including the 2013 Moto X and the Z3C. The Moto X is very close to stock Google Android. The Z3C does not have a heavy skin on it but it does have a lot of bloatware, although you can disable some of it. I put a third party launcher (Nova) on the Z3C because I don't like the left pane slide out window Sony uses, and I like a few other Nova features. Frankly, if the Moto X had the battery life of the Z3C I would prefer using the Moto X. I think it just feels better when holding it. However, the Z3C looks good and runs well (better specs than the Moto too) so it is a good choice too. It just does not feel very secure when handling it due to the glass back.
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I have several devices including the 2013 Moto X and the Z3C. The Moto X is very close to stock Google Android. The Z3C does not have a heavy skin on it but it does have a lot of bloatware, although you can disable some of it. I put a third party launcher (Nova) on the Z3C because I don't like the left pane slide out window Sony uses, and I like a few other Nova features. Frankly, if the Moto X had the battery life of the Z3C I would prefer using the Moto X. I think it just feels better when holding it. However, the Z3C looks good and runs well (better specs than the Moto too) so it is a good choice too. It just does not feel very secure when handling it due to the glass back.
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Lots of good thoughts, thanks for the insight.
People's phone
There is no escaping the "people's phone".
Gal*xy and iph*ne will always have more development. They have good products, but has hard as other company try, there is no escaping the imitation game.
i used galaxy s2 before. even there's no sourcecode of crappy exynos processors there are a lot of custom roms working flawlesly for galaxy series. sony gives us every code that developers need but there's no custom rom for us, by the way cm is working with a lot of bugs.. hope we will see more custom rom for our z3c..
istux said:
Totally agree with you.
At the beginning there were many devs which couldn't unlock because of warranty risks. :crying:
I guess this is the only reason, as the device is really fantastic.
Yes, now we are a good number and keep growing... but, actually, we are almost good users, nothing more...
WE NEED MORE DEVELOPERS
...and if there wasn't a reward for root, nothing would have happened so far. That's the sad truth...
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Well continuing with the idea that devs need financial motivation, cus I know I do for most things in life haha. My previous phone was the lg g2, and I recall at least one Dev was donated a phone so he could work on making Roms for it.
Would it be unreasonable to perhaps try the same thing here? Same theory as the root bounty and all that.
Really disappointed with my LG G4.
It took months to get root, there are 10 variants each with different software and only 1 has an officially unlocked boot-loader. There are virtually no custom ROMs for my phone.
What do you guys predict this phone will be like within the modding community? Hardware wise this would be a step down for me, but if that means a decent trade-off software wise I think it would be worth it. And maybe what do you guys think about posing my question towards the 2015 Nexus 5?
Hardware wise the g4 and the style are almost identical. What's a step down? If root and romming are high priorities for you, I'd look for the nexuses
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Well the camera on the G4 is a bit nicer, the removable battery is nicer, larger expandable storage, barometer, ect. Compare on phonearena. Theres no debating the G4 is a better phone, but software wise it's not the phone for me. I think I can stick it out till October. Sucks waiting while my G4 drops in value.
I'll give you the camera ? Being that the X pure will be sim unlocked I think most of us are assuming the bootloaders will be easily unlockable. On the other hand, the dev community is always the best for nexus phones.
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I think the main reason that the dev community sucks on the LG G4 (I almost got it earlier in the year until I was following the root debacle) is that only one model (the international 815 variant) had an unlockable bootloader and root took forever to achieve. With the Moto -- being a "pure" or "dev-like" non-carrier chained model, there is a large assumption that the bootloader will be easily unlocked and if this is the case, root should be no harder than flashing the latest SuperSU.
The recently released Moto G has an unlockable bootloader, as do previous non-carrier linked Moto X's -- so there is no reason to believe ours won't be as well: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
And if/when the bootloader if opened, you should start to see a healthy dose of deving -- although many people have raved how "pure" Moto's implementation of Android is, so you may find you may not need to flash a new ROM, but instead maybe just root and a few key utilities like Xposed to get what you want. I flashed custom ROMs on almost every phone I've had, with the exception of the Nexus 5 -- because there really wasn't a need to. But it's nice to have choices
It seems to me that there is less available for the Moto X 2014 in terms of ROMs, kernels and such than I'd have expected. That's good reason for a lot of us to pin our hopes on the Huawei Nexus. I was figuring that there would be heavy development for the Pure. But now, I'm not quite so sure. Will Motorola release the source code?
I agree that Xposed can cover a bunch of things that ROMs would. I don't always use them, either. But as pinoymutt says, it's nice to have choices.
Guys remember we cannot predict the dev community for this device yet. I think this will attract a lot of attention because it is a uncarrier version and cheap. If you compare to the moto x 2014 it isn't exactly the same situation because they had carrier versions and what not. The price for this device is also attractive so I think the dev community will explode. From day one we can all have our bootloaders unlocked and as soon as someone converts TWRP we will be off to the races. One thing is certain, this will have a lot more support over the G4. I'm excited to see what will happen
I would lay decent odds that this device will see more than adequate support. No carrier limitation, unlocked and cheap with great specs is going to draw people in.
Guys, any idea if there will be a way to remove the greetings in the future if we decide to chose one with Moto maker?
Jkteam said:
Guys, any idea if there will be a way to remove the greetings in the future if we decide to chose one with Moto maker?
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It's probably a boot animation that can be adjusted. I've never had a moto device but I bet there are tools out there
Jkteam said:
Guys, any idea if there will be a way to remove the greetings in the future if we decide to chose one with Moto maker?
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On the previous Xs there was an option to delete it when you did a factory reset.
I think this phone will have an excellent community following here. There are a lot of posts here considering nobody has the phone yet. The critics will always do their thing but I'm thinking we have a winner here. I'm looking forward to it.
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I think this phone will have an excellent community following here. There are a lot of posts here considering nobody has the phone yet. The critics will always do their thing but I'm thinking we have a winner here. I'm looking forward to it.
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+1 oh how I hope so.
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I hope so. I am coming from nexus 5 and expect this to have a large development community