Charging bug? - Moto G4 Questions & Answers

The turbo charger that came with my G4 charges the phone pretty quickly from whatever percentage it's on when I plug it in up to like 75%, then from that to 100% it might take up to two hours! This started happening recently. I remember it used to charge all the way at the same rate, and the phone used to get a bit hot, now the phone stays dead cold. Anyone having the same problem or is it just me?

stkpxl said:
Pretty sure that's how it's supposed to work. Once it gets up to a certain point, it slows down so as not to ruin the battery.
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But it slows down so much to charge 20% in like 3 hours? I was thinking maybe the charger was faulty. I've ordered a new quick charger from Amazon.

NexusFan9219 said:
But it slows down so much to charge 20% in like 3 hours? I was thinking maybe the charger was faulty. I've ordered a new quick charger from Amazon.
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That is the way it's supposed to work. It will only quick charge part of the way. I've never actually timed mine so I don't know if it takes that long for the final part or not.
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Faulty chargers causing battery problems?

I'm wondering what the easiest way would be to test the charging voltage going to your phone from the charger. My experience has been that the first time I charged my phone it seemed to charge up just fine pretty quickly, but then drained pretty quickly also. The second time I plugged it in for about an hour or so and it had only charged up 10 or so percent and the phone was pretty hot. I was thinking maybe it was the outlet or something, but when I plugged it in to another one the charger started making this buzzing noise, and continued to buzz for about 6 or 7 seconds after being unplugged. This concerned me, so I switched chargers to a different one and it charged up my phone no problem and I have pretty good battery life.
I'm not sure how widespread this is, but I've had a few other people say they have the same issue as me with the buzzing and everything. One guy's phone phone got bricked completely before I mentioned to him that my charger was buzzing and he found his was also buzzing. This is just something to be aware of if you're experiencing heat issues or charging issues. Is there maybe an app that displays charging voltage?
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jtroye32 said:
I'm wondering what the easiest way would be to test the charging voltage going to your phone from the charger. My experience has been that the first time I charged my phone it seemed to charge up just fine pretty quickly, but then drained pretty quickly also. The second time I plugged it in for about an hour or so and it had only charged up 10 or so percent and the phone was pretty hot. I was thinking maybe it was the outlet or something, but when I plugged it in to another one the charger started making this buzzing noise, and continued to buzz for about 6 or 7 seconds after being unplugged. This concerned me, so I switched chargers to a different one and it charged up my phone no problem and I have pretty good battery life.
I'm not sure how widespread this is, but I've had a few other people say they have the same issue as me with the buzzing and everything. One guy's phone phone got bricked completely before I mentioned to him that my charger was buzzing and he found his was also buzzing. This is just something to be aware of if you're experiencing heat issues or charging issues. Is there maybe an app that displays charging voltage?
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Hmm... My charger also buzzes when unplugged and plugged in. I noticed it before but didn't pay attention to it. I guess I'll use a different charger. I hope this hasn't killed my battery in any way.
did anyone request a replacement charger from Google or is everyone just accepting it for what it is?
My GNex came with a buzzy charger, I used it for two days before swapping for a new one and had no problems with it.
Is the LG charger broke? Maybe. Is the LG battery super sensitive? Possibly.
I use about 3 different charging blocks and cables on with my HTC onex and My Nexus 4, It doesn't matter at all which I use with either phone, the n4 still has crazy heat.
One thing either way, Never use a noisy charging block IMO.
My charger buzzes as well, and my battery life seems to be on the poorer side. I kind of doubt the are related, but perhaps they are. Would they send a new charger with a replacement unit?
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My charger also buzzes occasionally and will continue to do so for ~10 seconds after being unplugged. Should I be concerned?
Banished Angel said:
My charger also buzzes occasionally and will continue to do so for ~10 seconds after being unplugged. Should I be concerned?
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I'm in the same boat. What's the deal with the charger?
My charger also buzzes. I don't think it's defective though... Seems like everyone's does, plus it seems to be working fine. I just assumed it was some kind of capacitor discharging inside or something.
Just played around with it and it seems like the block buzzes when plugged in until you plug the phone in and it stops. Mine proceeds to buzz for a few seconds after unplugging as well, as others have mentioned.

Official wireless charging pad issue.

Hi there, I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing issues with their wireless charging pad? I put my s5 on the pad at night and when I wake up the orange light is flashing and phone is at around 92%. I assume when the phone hits 100% the charger shuts off and doesn't keep phone charged.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
jacobclause said:
Sometimes the wireless chargers DO take a long time to fully charge the item. IMHO, it is still a new technology, and has leaps and bounds to go before it is perfect. Still in the consumer testing phase?
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Hi there, it definitely charges to 100% as I've tested it. However, when it's been sat on the charging pad at 100% for say 30 mins, an orange light starts flashing and the phone is no longer being charged, so my phone is probably 100% charged by say 3 am, but then loses charge. Not sure of this is normal cause if it is then it's a major flaw in the whole wireless charging concept that samsung is implementing.
I do not have this issue but another person on this forum has posted about it. IMO it's a defective pad or receiver
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jacobclause said:
I agree, it is probably defective.
Because they are supposed to stop charging after the device is fully charged. They are programmed to do that. But they are not supposed to lose charge afterwards. I would contact the company you bought it from, and ask to exchange it for a new one.
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Hi guys, thanks for all the replies, ive sent it back to the place i bought it from for a replacement. Fingers crossed the new one will work!

Adaptive fast charging issue

Anyone have this issue with your adaptive? Mine cant charge anymore, or it can charge but take a very long time too full charge: 3hours but only like 25-30%
And it smell like when you burn plastic...
You should definitely stop using it and see about warranty coverage. Have seen at least one other with same issue.
yeh, mind also the same just happened yesterday. try with charger of note 3 was o problem, charged normal. going to send for replacement.
honhan0904 said:
Anyone have this issue with your adaptive? Mine cant charge anymore, or it can charge but take a very long time too full charge: 3hours but only like 25-30%
And it smell like when you burn plastic...
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Do you know this forum has a SEARCH-function?
fast charging issues!!!!!
Further more:
You mentioned your issue already in that thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56868703&postcount=13
So: why starting this new one?!?
Nobody have answer it clearly
So i create another one and hope someone can help

Anyone tried wireless charging ?

Anyone tried wireless charging on DT2 or MXF ? And how was the experience ?
Works, nothing special - overnight charge from 1% to 100%
It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.
Maybe I did not notice this problem - as I put the phone on charge in the evening, until the next morning I take it to work.
I use cheap qi charger from ebay - ~$2.5
Use a ravpower qi charger every night, no issues, phone comes off 100% full, cool to the touch. I know some units I've tried with my Maxx back in the day kept it warm through charging.
007shark said:
It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.
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Hm, I haven't had this issue yet. I use a cheap generic three coil Qi charger. Is the issue just Qi or PMA chargers too? Because I was looking at buying another but this issue would be a little annoying to me.
007shark said:
It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.
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Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.
My phone gets very warm wireless charging. I prefer fast charge
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Zeljko1234 said:
Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.
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Never had a problem with that in the past even with wired chargers. I don't think in recent phones that there is actual current on the battery at all times past 100% whether charging wirelessly or wired. I'm pretty sure it goes into a maintenance mode, but it will still show charging on the display which is the important part. That is important if you use it on your nightstand as an alarm clock with wireless charging. My Sony Z3v had no problems staying in a charge state even after 100% but my Turbo 2 does not which causes it to disconnect. It will reconnect after it loses about 5%. If I don't have it silenced, it will wake me up when it reconnects. It also affects any tasks you have programmed to happen when it is charging.
From my understanding, the first Turbo did not have this problem. I think it cropped up from the inclusion of the powermat charging or maybe something related to the 810 processor. Anyway, just waiting for a definitive answer from Moto.
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Xelios029 said:
Hm, I haven't had this issue yet. I use a cheap generic three coil Qi charger. Is the issue just Qi or PMA chargers too? Because I was looking at buying another but this issue would be a little annoying to me.
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Read the thread at the Moto Support Forums. https://forums.motorola.com/posts/215aa2bb51
It doesn't seem to affect everyone which may mean it is more dependent on your charger.
damkol said:
Maybe I did not notice this problem - as I put the phone on charge in the evening, until the next morning I take it to work.
I use cheap qi charger from ebay - ~$2.5
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ahahahahhaha.....it's really cheap !!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:
RGDROID said:
Use a ravpower qi charger every night, no issues, phone comes off 100% full, cool to the touch. I know some units I've tried with my Maxx back in the day kept it warm through charging.
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Have any Qi charger brand to propose ?
I'm using a Samsung Qi puck - not the newer round plastic one, but the older more squared soft-touch one. Works great, I don't have the 100% disconnect issue.
I use the tylt qi charger the desk top one so my phone is sitting at a 60 degree angle. It works great no issues and every morning my phone is at 100% and cool to the touch
This all sounds encouraging. I think it would be helpful if people could also add a few common notes:
charger / model
any case they have on the phone (or not) when using a Qi charger
whether the phone must be in a certain orientation (e.g., horizontal vs vertical) to charge
whether the phone is at 100% - and stays there after a charge
whether the phone is cool / warm / hot once charged
A cleaned up list developed from this would be a good resource for the user community
Tylt works great phone gets warm. Itian charger is cheap from Amazon but is very finicky.
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Really, Zeljko?
Zeljko1234 said:
Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.
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Uhm, that's one of the sillier things I've read today.
If it drains to 5% it's not terribly useful as a charge system regardless.
A charge controller chip is supposed to be designed to PREVENT the problem you just described.
Each charge cycle, regardless of it's form shortens the life of the battery, period. If you charge it up and then let it deplete it like that, you're damaging it as much as if you left it charging.
You kind of need to leave the stupid thing plugged in or in some wireless charge hysteresis loop so that the device isn't drained. In light of the charge system being supposed to keep the battery out of the loop until it needs to charge it again (some threshold below 100%) it shouldn't MATTER if it's "plugged in" and the device won't be pulling from the battery.
madscientist_42 said:
Uhm, that's one of the sillier things I've read today.
If it drains to 5% it's not terribly useful as a charge system regardless.
A charge controller chip is supposed to be designed to PREVENT the problem you just described.
Each charge cycle, regardless of it's form shortens the life of the battery, period. If you charge it up and then let it deplete it like that, you're damaging it as much as if you left it charging.
You kind of need to leave the stupid thing plugged in or in some wireless charge hysteresis loop so that the device isn't drained. In light of the charge system being supposed to keep the battery out of the loop until it needs to charge it again (some threshold below 100%) it shouldn't MATTER if it's "plugged in" and the device won't be pulling from the battery.
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You're talking like battery expert. Well, maybe you're. Then contact those guys and tell them they're wrong
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/lithium_based_batteries
I picked up 3 Samsung qi chargers at 6 quid each on offer on Amazon (UK). They work very well although they are more a convenience thing rather than a method of charging. I use one at work. One in the bedroom and one next to the Xbox great for the work desk to keep the device topped up and frees you up from plugging and unplugging constantly BUT.... It takes absolutely ages to charge so you dont go expecting to be dumping your cabled chargers. I use the work one most of the time as I'm out and about a lot and its very useful to be able to just grab the phone without unplugging and placing back on the pad when at the desk. The turbo charger gets used at home more coz in more likely to plug in to that and jump in the shower knowing that I'll have a nice reserve of power for the pub so yes they work as advertised and work well great as a trickle charge device when you ain't in a rush. If anyone is interested ping me and I'll spend some time on giving more detailed stats such as charge times from 0% and model number of the devices I use. Away for work at the mo so probably the weekend
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Raynic
I bought the Raynic Orchard I. It charges the phone just fine, but I noticed that if the phone wants to wake up because it senses movement, it detaches and reattaches to the charter, which gets very annoying. I moved the phone to an angle where it couldn't see me (but I could see it; sensors were under my monitor stand but the rest of the phone was sticking out) and everything went smoothly after that.
Verizon QI charge stand, Verizon case, have to charge upside down
To charge our new Turbo Droid 2 in a Verizon QI stand with the Verizon case on it, the phone must be upside down. It's OK if out of the case. We have a car QI 'base' which it won't charge in either; probably exact same issue, whatever that is. Any ideas appreciated!
jdmba said:
I bought the Raynic Orchard I. It charges the phone just fine, but I noticed that if the phone wants to wake up because it senses movement, it detaches and reattaches to the charter, which gets very annoying. I moved the phone to an angle where it couldn't see me (but I could see it; sensors were under my monitor stand but the rest of the phone was sticking out) and everything went smoothly after that.
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Note 7 Shipments Halted

http://www.wsj.com/articles/samsung...shipments-for-more-quality-testing-1472647803
Sorry if you can't read it
Those damn cheap microusb to usb-c connectors and cheap large voltage chargers .. sheesh. I've had no trouble with mine but then again I have quality chargers and cables I bought for my 6P. My Note 7 doesn't even get warm when charging .. at least nothing noticeable.
Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.
-BoneZ- said:
Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.
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Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
Seems to be a problem with the international models.
dkb218 said:
Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
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It's not that it's unapproved. It's that they are using cheap cables and chargers. We went through this crap with the OnePlus3 and Nexus 6P. Cheap chargers and cables can do damage.
Well, from the looks of it. Even Anker who is pretty reliable issued a recall for almost all their usb-c cables.
dkb218 said:
Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
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You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.
dkb218 said:
Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
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twe90kid said:
Well, from the looks of it. Even Anker who is pretty reliable issued a recall for almost all their usb-c cables.
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I use these with my Note 7 and Nexus 6P. Unless I just got lucky and got 6 good cables .. I use them everywhere .. work, car (Android Auto) and home .. then these are good. I highly doubt a USB-C cable that works brilliantly with the Nexus 6P would fry the Note 7. I've had mine for 12 days and when I hook the Note 7 up in my truck for AA it's charging as well and it never gets much warmer than if it were on the wireless Samsung charger.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YQFMWK6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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-BoneZ- said:
You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.
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Maybe something is wrong with yours. My Note 7 has been sitting on the Samsung wireless charger on my desk at 100% for the last hour. Since all this has made me paranoid .. I pick it up every so often and touch it to my face. It's not even lukewarm. I don't think fast charging is the issue with this. The guy in China who reported this which later was picked up on Reddit .. his cable was just some black microusb cable with a while adapter on it and no further info. If the cable was a piece of crap and he was using a cheap wall charger .. Samsung adapter or not I think this was the cause of the boom. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Like said about .. the usb-c cable/charger subject was discussed to death about the OnePlus3 and Nexus 6P (Macbook as well) .. and it's always the same thing. Don't use cheap junk. :good:
just be careful what ur using
http://www.slashgear.com/anker-recalls-refunds-usb-c-cable-over-faulty-implementation-28453688/
aergern said:
Maybe something is wrong with yours. My Note 7 has been sitting on the Samsung wireless charger on my desk at 100% for the last hour. Since all this has made me paranoid .. I pick it up every so often and touch it to my face. It's not even lukewarm.
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If your phone is at 100%, then it's not charging. Therefore, it won't be warm. When the battery gets low, 30-40% and it's on fast-charge, it gets very warm. I don't know about the wireless charger, but it's warm with the cable. Either way, I disabled fast-charge and no more warmth.
Are we far away from FW update limiting charge current? I turned off fast charging due to phone getting hot, which is not healthy for batteries, especially if those are hard to replace and I charge overnight anyway, but on some occasion I could be in rush to charge and fast charging is the solution and I want fast charge as option, but if things go like that, the easiest fix for Samsung would be to eliminate fast charge for now.
All phones should get warm while fast charging. S7 Edge did the same thing, so did the nexus 6p.
I charge mine with fast charging every single time.
i use quick charge no problems here
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It could be they are using these cable that's being recall?
http://lifehacker.com/some-anker-usb-c-cables-are-getting-recalled-for-a-hard-1785887067
Some Anker USB C cable sold at Amazon last month could blow you note 7 up.
Guys please check if you have these Anker cable and return it back to manufacture.
http://lifehacker.com/some-anker-usb-c-cables-are-getting-recalled-for-a-hard-1785887067
If that cable delivers 20 volts designed for PC, to the phone designed for 9v max, that would double the amperage and quadruple total power drawn, I can easily see how that could burn the whole phone to crisp.
Going back to fast charge on N7, I'm sure it's well designed and the heat well within specs (it's even mentioned in manual), but the fact remains that higher operating temp of battery, the lower (slightly) life span of the battery. With battery sealed inside and rather difficult to replace I want to prolong it's life to maximum and if I charge overnight, which I do often, don't care if it even takes 6hrs. BTW if the faulty cable is the real culprit, it's a very good news and shipping of N7 should resume soon. It would be shame if such a good phone got bad reputation undeserved.
http://www.androidauthority.com/reports-samsung-considering-note-7-recall-battery-pack-blame-714126/
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-BoneZ- said:
You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.
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ian1 said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/reports-samsung-considering-note-7-recall-battery-pack-blame-714126/
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Actually, it's not. It was reported on quite a few sites that Samsung sourced the battery packs locally for it's variations. So the South Korean company that made the battery packs for the South Korean release is the one that is possibly the cause of all this hoopla. The few handsets out of the millions produced that have had issues with these crap cables and chargers have been in South Korea. None of the EU/NorthAm phones have been reported to have had this happen at all. Maybe unnamed sources that aren't Samsung themselves should be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe we should wait for an official statement from Samsung before running in circles and screaming the sky is falling. It's a thought.
I'm not saying it couldn't be a massive, global recall but based on the 30+ articles I've read .. most of which messaged to me by my iPhone owning friends .. this seems like a bad batch in South Korea. I had a gasket issue on my motorcycle that was part of a recall .. will I stop buying that brand because of it. No. And before you start talking about fire and explosions .. oil spewing out of a gasket onto a tire while doing 70mph ... same thing.
-BoneZ- said:
Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.
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oh yeah? turn off a key feature of the phone, and problem solved?
if the camera was faulty, would you simply not use it, and be okay with it?
the iris scanner, if it didn't work, would you just disable it?

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