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So I discovered a manufacturer in China that has started manufacturing a smart-watch that is plainly put a clone of the pebble. I just received today my production sample and am testing it. It's based on the EFM32 Cortex-M micro-controller. Bluetooth 4.0 BLE. The screen is Sharp Memory LCD. Battery 270 mAh , they claim battery life is over 10 days. Firmware is based on FreeRTOS and looks very similar to that on the Pebble. Watch has the same 4 buttons layout and the exact magnetic charger. Water resistance is rated IP 67. Tested it by tacking a bath. Even has the same issue with an easily scratch-able screen . Comes with 4 watch faces.
Here are some images :
http://imgur.com/a/X6tLy
Here is the suppliers page : http://imesmart.en.alibaba.com/prod...mart_watch_blue_tooth_iphone_smart_watch.html
These things go for 58 usd a piece. They haven't hit any sites like DealExtreme or Aliexpress yet.
This is the Android app used to connect to the watch if anyone wants to decompile it : https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCYVVSaEQzVWpsZzQ/edit
Managed to find out that ZTE is selling this device under their brand : http://www.appchina.com/app/com.mtt.smartwatch/
It's exactly the same as this ZTE as I am curently using the ZTE app to connect to the watch.
http://www.myzte.com/goods-171-Grand Watch 蓝牙手表.html
Here is the ZTE app that works with this watch :
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCMWoyVUhFbE9DcVU/edit
Decompiled APK : http://www.decompileandroid.com/complete/68314?key=9969f412434b6f979e2325e4d6641661
the ZTE bluewatch looks a hell of a lot better?
This is basically the ZTE bluewatch in a different case.
lgstoian said:
So I discovered a manufacturer in China that has started manufacturing a smart-watch that is plainly put a clone of the pebble. I just received today my production sample and am testing it. It's based on the EFM32 Cortex-M micro-controller. Bluetooth 4.0 BLE. The screen is Sharp Memory LCD. Battery 270 mAh , they claim battery life is over 10 days. Firmware is based on FreeRTOS and looks very similar to that on the Pebble. Watch has the same 4 buttons layout and the exact magnetic charger. Water resistance is rated IP 67. Tested it by tacking a bath. Even has the same issue with an easily scratch-able screen . Comes with 4 watch faces.
Here are some images :
http://imgur.com/a/X6tLy
Here is the suppliers page : http://imesmart.en.alibaba.com/prod...mart_watch_blue_tooth_iphone_smart_watch.html
These things go for 58 usd a piece. They haven't hit any sites like DealExtreme or Aliexpress yet.
This is the Android app used to connect to the watch if anyone wants to decompile it : https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCYVVSaEQzVWpsZzQ/edit
Managed to find out that ZTE is selling this device under their brand : http://www.appchina.com/app/com.mtt.smartwatch/
It's exactly the same as this ZTE as I am curently using the ZTE app to connect to the watch.
http://www.myzte.com/goods-171-Grand Watch 蓝牙手表.html
Here is the ZTE app that works with this watch :
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCMWoyVUhFbE9DcVU/edit
Decompiled APK : http://www.decompileandroid.com/complete/68314?key=9969f412434b6f979e2325e4d6641661
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Guess you'll need about 9 days to test the battery
It came with a half charged battery and it ran out of charge after 5 days.
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It came with a half charged battery and it ran out of charge after 5 days.
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Super anything else you've found out? Any other issues?
would you recommend it? :good:
Pretty hard not to recommend for 58 bucks. I found that on my Note 2 it sometimes looses Bluetooth connection after a few hours but doesn't seem to have this issue on the P6. The companion app for Android is just version 1.0 and has just been released last month so I am hopping there will be updates to solve this.
Manufacturer sent me an updated companion app that seems to have fixed the connection issues. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCR1pZcWw0OHdxcWQxQUt2bUFJczNRSXdtV3A0/edit
They claim to provide updates at least once a month.
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Manufacturer sent me an updated companion app that seems to have fixed the connection issues. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0tZLvAcbvCR1pZcWw0OHdxcWQxQUt2bUFJczNRSXdtV3A0/edit
They claim to provide updates at least once a month.
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Good news. :laugh:
can you use apps from the pebble apps store?
does this work as a stand alone watch? I.e. when its not connected to a device.
No you can't use the Pebble app's and yes it does work like a standalone watch , you can even completely shut down Bluetooth. Till now I'm quite impressed with the little guy. I'm now used to being able to see all my notifications on it and to control the music player. Pedometer is also kinda cool and the data syncs to the phone app.
same spec as the pebble
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No you can't use the Pebble app's and yes it does work like a standalone watch , you can even completely shut down Bluetooth. Till now I'm quite impressed with the little guy. I'm now used to being able to see all my notifications on it and to control the music player. Pedometer is also kinda cool and the data syncs to the phone app.
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So without connected to a device you the the time, date, does the vibrating alarm work, any others functions?
Are the spec's exactly the same as the pebble with all the sensors and GPS?
The 10 day battery life is just fantastic. :good:
Thanks for the info' :good:
i'm writing right now a detailed review of the watch and will be posting it in a new thread.
Yes it has all the functions you would expect from a normal watch and they can be used without a phone , so you can set alarms.
Neither this nor the Pebble have GPS. But they do have an accelerometer.
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i'm writing right now a detailed review of the watch and will be posting it in a new thread.
Yes it has all the functions you would expect from a normal watch and they can be used without a phone , so you can set alarms.
Neither this nor the Pebble have GPS. But they do have an accelerometer.
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The info' in the ClearDroid link watch comparison I posted is incorrect, its says it has a GPS.
can't wait for the review, mentioning all the 'stand alone watch' functions will be most helpful.
...this watch keeps getting better. :laugh:
What sensor does a compass app use. d'you know?
Magnetic and it doesn't have that. The review is up.
With so many options of clones what's a good solid one in the $60 range?
I was thinking about trying the Soyan M9?
Ok I was wondering since I was reading some other threads do any of these watches able to do Google now?
the ranking of this watch in Amazon is passable
but few customers bought it and few customers reviews
i don't recommend it
I know I'm late to the party, but anyone else thinking about getting this watch - it's pretty alright. It's definitely better than the U8, and definitely not able to do anything fancy though. It definitely is midrange, and it looks nice to boot. I want to flash it, but I haven't even looked into firmware flashing before I got this. So if anyone knows what I can do, let me know.
Please don't call them clones! These watches have been around for years before Gear, Pebble, etc. Soapbox away, I just got my GV08. A few flaws, sure, but for $60 I wasn't expecting miracles. This all comes down to the features. I've not seen voice commands on the lower price points yet. Waterproofing seems to be another issue. And most of these manufacturers are in China, so good luck with support. Beyond that I can say the construction seems sturdy. The touch screen is remarkably accurate. Any camera without a flash does poorly unless in full sun. I was glad to see my device accept an H2o SIM card with no issues. It now identifies its network as AT&T and allows me to make calls. And with bluetooth pairing to my Galaxy S4, I can avoid running up those minutes as well. I'm digging for firmware upgrades and driver support at the moment. One missing feature that I would like is a CALENDAR sync. And bluetooth filesharing is possible but terribly slow. It's going to see some stress in the next few weeks and if it self-destructs I'll let you in. Otherwise for the price I believe this was a good purchase.
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LukosTheWolf said:
Please don't call them clones! These watches have been around for years before Gear, Pebble, etc. Soapbox away, I just got my GV08. A few flaws, sure, but for $60 I wasn't expecting miracles. This all comes down to the features. I've not seen voice commands on the lower price points yet. Waterproofing seems to be another issue. And most of these manufacturers are in China, so good luck with support. Beyond that I can say the construction seems sturdy. The touch screen is remarkably accurate. Any camera without a flash does poorly unless in full sun. I was glad to see my device accept an H2o SIM card with no issues. It now identifies its network as AT&T and allows me to make calls. And with bluetooth pairing to my Galaxy S4, I can avoid running up those minutes as well. I'm digging for firmware upgrades and driver support at the moment. One missing feature that I would like is a CALENDAR sync. And bluetooth filesharing is possible but terribly slow. It's going to see some stress in the next few weeks and if it self-destructs I'll let you in. Otherwise for the price I believe this was a good purchase.
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I have a GV08s which is a nice smartwatch but it keeps disconnecting from my Galaxy Note 2 and will not keep a BT connecting. I also have a U8 which is not as nice, but connects without a problem. The problem appears to be with the GV08s...just not sure if it is this particular watch or if the GV08s has a problem...also I cannot change the weather to our local weather...nice screen, can see it in the sun and also the menus are great, just wish it would hold a BT connection.
I'm looking for a cool, unique phone. I don't use my phone much, mostly for SMS, playing music on the way to/from work, Waze, Uber, and a lot of reading the Web and Reddit. No heavy games.
As some have mentioned, there are sites where it's about $200 CAD, which I'm assuming is them getting rid of stock.
Any thoughts? It's either the Yotaphone 2, something else, or wait until the bendy Galaxy S8
Hi Jonathan
As a very proud and happy Yotaphone 2 owner, I definitely recommend it.
First of all, I'm still in love with its second screen.
My main EPD panel shows clock & battery+ notifications + switch tools (mobile data, wifi...). Think that all these infos and options are always displayed and accessible with a double-tap, and that's perfect. When you discover that it's possible, you realize that should be mandatory for every device, in fact.
I think I use the EPD 80% of the time, it's perfect for all the messaging apps, for example. Twitter also works very well. Generally, I find activities like typing or reading very nice on the EPD, because you can take your time. It may not seem like an obvious edge, but I came to the conclusion that's soothing and good for mental health.
Aging? I think I'm not a smartphone power user, like you, and I don't play much. Yet, it still perfectly handles Internet navigation and apps (GMaps, Pokémon,...).
And, last but not least, the people around me love it. It draws attention, and for some, it's even viewed as some kind of magical device.
Beautiful, nice to handle, build quality, there's so much good to say about this device that I can't do it alone. For me, its bigger flaws were related to my extensive use of the EPD : no EPD backlight, the lack for more and more EPD apps, and their lack of features (compared to the not-EPD apps), but even that is improving with system updates (another big one rolled just yesterday, in Europe). It could also use SD card and second SIM slots, but it would be too close to perfection.
Thanks to the guys in Yota.
MonsieurSun said:
Hi Jonathan
As a very proud and happy Yotaphone 2 owner, I definitely recommend it.
First of all, I'm still in love with its second screen.
My main EPD panel shows clock & battery+ notifications + switch tools (mobile data, wifi...). Think that all these infos and options are always displayed and accessible with a double-tap, and that's perfect. When you discover that it's possible, you realize that should be mandatory for every device, in fact.
I think I use the EPD 80% of the time, it's perfect for all the messaging apps, for example. Twitter also works very well. Generally, I find activities like typing or reading very nice on the EPD, because you can take your time. It may not seem like an obvious edge, but I came to the conclusion that's soothing and good for mental health.
Aging? I think I'm not a smartphone power user, like you, and I don't play much. Yet, it still perfectly handles Internet navigation and apps (GMaps, Pokémon,...).
And, last but not least, the people around me love it. It draws attention, and for some, it's even viewed as some kind of magical device.
Beautiful, nice to handle, build quality, there's so much good to say about this device that I can't do it alone. For me, its bigger flaws were related to my extensive use of the EPD : no EPD backlight, the lack for more and more EPD apps, and their lack of features (compared to the not-EPD apps), but even that is improving with system updates (another big one rolled just yesterday, in Europe). It could also use SD card and second SIM slots, but it would be too close to perfection.
Thanks to the guys in Yota.
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Hi MonsieurSun, thanks for your opinion.
I also interested in that device and this is one of the forums with more Info about it.
I have been reading and I have thought about buying a case tpu but do not know whether to buy also screen saver. I would like to know your opinion also on better version of firmware and the various extensions to the EPD screen I've seen on the forum. Thank you and sorry for my English.
Hello
You are asking about the accessories, right ?
I just bought a plain black bumper a while ago, and nothing else. It cost around 10€ and saves the phone from bad falls (it did for me twice) and protects both screens. My screens still look like pristine ones, one year after purchase.
The most recent firmware EU .124 I already mentioned contains a lot of nice improvements and fixes, though it also brought one new and annoying bug : the EPD screen randomly (haven't found any specific pattern yet) freezes when typing SMS. It can be de-frozen with a simple lock/unlock, but it happens often to me. This is the only drawback so far, the update is very, very useful, but it's pretty obvious and upsetting.
As for applications, I installed several EPD tools from the store or from the forum, mostly the ones adding switches, but I ended up disappointed. My wild guess is that most of them would need me to root the device to bypass some privileges to work well, and I don't plan to root it. Typically, I wanted a mobile data and GPS switch, but these just invoke the parameter page where you have to switch the... well, switch, yourself.
I also installed a Playstore clock app with more infos, but the clock does not refresh itself every second, and minutes can go by without displaying the right time. Pretty useless.
To sum it up, I think that most of these apps work fine if you use them on a rooted phone, unlike me.
The EPD apps delivered by Yota work fine, and there's a thread around here just about ideas for new EPD apps.
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Hello
You are asking about the accessories, right ?
I just bought a plain black bumper a while ago, and nothing else. It cost around 10€ and saves the phone from bad falls (it did for me twice) and protects both screens. My screens still look like pristine ones, one year after purchase.
The most recent firmware EU .124 I already mentioned contains a lot of nice improvements and fixes, though it also brought one new and annoying bug : the EPD screen randomly (haven't found any specific pattern yet) freezes when typing SMS. It can be de-frozen with a simple lock/unlock, but it happens often to me. This is the only drawback so far, the update is very, very useful, but it's pretty obvious and upsetting.
As for applications, I installed several EPD tools from the store or from the forum, mostly the ones adding switches, but I ended up disappointed. My wild guess is that most of them would need me to root the device to bypass some privileges to work well, and I don't plan to root it. Typically, I wanted a mobile data and GPS switch, but these just invoke the parameter page where you have to switch the... well, switch, yourself.
I also installed a Playstore clock app with more infos, but the clock does not refresh itself every second, and minutes can go by without displaying the right time. Pretty useless.
To sum it up, I think that most of these apps work fine if you use them on a rooted phone, unlike me.
The EPD apps delivered by Yota work fine, and there's a thread around here just about ideas for new EPD apps.
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The phone is already on the way and a bumper too. Thanks for your help, I'll keep reading the forum.
>It could also use SD card and second SIM slots, but it would be too close to perfection.
Does it have a SD-Slot?
No, it does not have any extra slots. I still don't have any issue with its 32 Go storage, but I guess some will.
To me, the extra screen is a nicer bonus
And I should also mention something about its charger. It's a nice-looking one (lights up when charging), and it looks very fast compared to most ones I saw before and since. Full charge from zero is done in less than 2 hours. I saw some deep review about it somewhere in the forums...
the phone is already at home
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the phone is already at home
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mine too
I opened the boot loader and have installed the latest version Ru, but I can not root the phone or install the recoverys of YD201 (I have YD206)
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Well, I don't know anything about rooting yet, sorry.
But is your yotafon working fine anyway ?
Yd206 or yd201?
Hi,
I'm thinking of buying a yotaphone 2.
But which one should I buy?
Hardware info about both is a bit fuzzy.
Am I correct that yd206 has Snapdragon 801 and yd201 has Snapdragon 800?
Im on European 4g T-Mobile network, so supported band might be an issue.
Please if someone has any info, respond here
Thanks.
The only chinese shop with the current low price (120-140€) that offers the international version with all 4G LTD bands is coolicool.
Check it there. I orderded there a couple weeks ago. Still waiting to receive it.
king conan said:
The only chinese shop with the current low price (120-140€) that offers the international version with all 4G LTD bands is coolicool.
Check it there. I orderded there a couple weeks ago. Still waiting to receive it.
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Efox has it too for similar price (http://www.efox-shop.com/yotaphone-...moled-fhd-bildschirm-android-44-4g-l-g-297740). Efox has not-so-great user-experiences lately, so might hesitate to buy there..
I like to hear whether there are more differences between the two models (Snapdragon 800-801?)
For this price I also can buy the Xiaomi redmi Note 3 Pro or LeEco (LeTV) Le 2 X620, which have double the Antutu score AND are supported above Android 5.0.
But they are less cool, without the E-Ink :-/
Quite in two minds here...
j0p3y said:
Efox has it too for similar price (http://www.efox-shop.com/yotaphone-...moled-fhd-bildschirm-android-44-4g-l-g-297740). Efox has not-so-great user-experiences lately, so might hesitate to buy there..
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Antelife, tinydeal, coolicool, efox-shop, myefox ...aaand probably some more I don't remember a.t.m - it is all the same seller. AFAIK they even share the same PayPal account (AUKEY INTERNATIONAL LIMITED). So it doesn't really matter which one you'll choose - but I'd advise you to pay with PayPal and use their protection if sth. goes wrong.
I have ordered my YD201 @efox for 129€ + ~15€ taxfree shipping to EU, but with code YP15 you'll get 15€ off so it's like a free shipping.
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I like to hear whether there are more differences between the two models (Snapdragon 800-801?)
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Both models have snap 801 (there's a new review by s7yler on YT - he had YD201 and you can see on his video that cpu-z shows 801).
Only difference is in radios (and preinstalled OS).
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For this price I also can buy the Xiaomi redmi Note 3 Pro or LeEco (LeTV) Le 2 X620, which have double the Antutu score AND are supported above Android 5.0.
But they are less cool, without the E-Ink :-/
Quite in two minds here...
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Well, that is up to you
I have BV6000, I easly get on it over 60hrs per charge with 10hrs SOT - but mostly I use it for reading stuff (web browsing, ebook, mail) so I want to give that yotaphone a try. If it won't fit my expectations I'll just resell it.
j0p3y said:
Efox has it too for similar price (http://www.efox-shop.com/yotaphone-...moled-fhd-bildschirm-android-44-4g-l-g-297740). Efox has not-so-great user-experiences lately, so might hesitate to buy there..
I like to hear whether there are more differences between the two models (Snapdragon 800-801?)
For this price I also can buy the Xiaomi redmi Note 3 Pro or LeEco (LeTV) Le 2 X620, which have double the Antutu score AND are supported above Android 5.0.
But they are less cool, without the E-Ink :-/
Quite in two minds here...
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My previous phone was a XRN3Pro and it's a better phone that YP2 in all specs (great camera, batery, SOC, etc.) I buy a YP2 because I really interested in the epd screen and I read a lot in my phone.
For anyother use you may buy the XRN3Pro .
mc_gee said:
I have ordered my YD201 @efox for 129€ + ~15€ taxfree shipping to EU, but with code YP15 you'll get 15€ off so it's like a free shipping.
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Thanks for the code!!
Both models have snap 801 (there's a new review by s7yler on YT - he had YD201 and you can see on his video that cpu-z shows 801).
Only difference is in radios (and preinstalled OS).
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Strange that every seller says it has Snapdragon 800 inside. Well, maybe not so strange since you say Aukey is the main firm above them all. Once bad info is there, than it'll be everywhere down the branch
Well, that is up to you
I have BV6000, I easly get on it over 60hrs per charge with 10hrs SOT - but mostly I use it for reading stuff (web browsing, ebook, mail) so I want to give that yotaphone a try. If it won't fit my expectations I'll just resell it.
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Well, I find it quite difficult deciding, since I first was only looking for this Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro device when all of a sudden these Yotaphones appeared everywhere, screaming 'pick me, pick me!'
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No prob
Strange that every seller says it has Snapdragon 800 inside. [...]
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It states Snapdragon 800 over whole internet - great example of global copy-paste, where some info was repeated so many times that it became official :/
HERE is post from Yotaphone representative, where he states, that those devices has Snapdragon 801 (a part written with bold letters - it's in russian, but any translator will help U).
Well, I find it quite difficult deciding, since I first was only looking for this Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro device when all of a sudden these Yotaphones appeared everywhere, screaming 'pick me, pick me!'
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I had 2/16 version of RMN3P - grreat device ...with medium screen and camera quality. As ygrigory wrote before - it is overall newer and better device (spec-wise ...but still midrange, so I'm not talking about build quality here). If you will have EPD as a fancy gadget, I guess that in a long run you'll regret buying YP2. But if you read a lot ...you need to answer yourself - do you really need a higher Antutu score?
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No prob
It states Snapdragon 800 over whole internet - great example of global copy-paste, where some info was repeated so many times that it became official :/
HERE is post from Yotaphone representative, where he states, that those devices has Snapdragon 801 (a part written with bold letters - it's in russian, but any translator will help U).
I had 2/16 version of RMN3P - grreat device ...with medium screen and camera quality. As ygrigory wrote before - it is overall newer and better device (spec-wise ...but still midrange, so I'm not talking about build quality here). If you will have EPD as a fancy gadget, I guess that in a long run you'll regret buying YP2. But if you read a lot ...you need to answer yourself - do you really need a higher Antutu score?
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Hi Mc_Gee, any tips on how to get the YT15 code working?
I put the phone in shopping cart, enter YT15 code and on next page I select second shipping option, German express (zollfrei) for €13,00. This is just added to the phone price of 129,99. So coupon not working (yet).
Hope you can help. Greetz edit* doh, it's YP15... which doesn't work either
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Hi Mc_Gee, any tips on how to get the YT15 code working?
I put the phone in shopping cart, enter YT15 code and on next page I select second shipping option, German express (zollfrei) for €13,00. This is just added to the phone price of 129,99. So coupon not working (yet).
Hope you can help. Greetz edit* doh, it's YP15... which doesn't work either
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Try YPH10 YPT10 or YPS10 for 10% off.. maybe one of them still works.
Looking to get my first smart watch. Around £250.
I would like it to do the following without a having a phone on me:
Pay with tapping.
Track runs via Strava.
Play music (possibly Spotify?).
I would like the following when I have the phone on me:
Email alerts
SMS
Whatapp
Facebook Messenger
Answer / Make calls (would this count as legal hands-free? ).
The Huawei Smart Watch 2 Classic looks to do all this for about £230 (unless someone else can find it cheaper?).
Any other alternatives that can do the above?
Ticwatch Pro is my favorite. I don't own one yet so I can't really back that up, other than on paper and community reviews.
I had the Huawei 2 classic for about a week. The battery didn't get me through the day, and at least for me, the 1.2 inch screen was just too small. It's a really good looking watch though. Had the screen been bigger and the battery lasted a day, I would have kept it no questions asked. Hopefully the 3 whatever fixes those two things. Also, at this point, you *should* be able to find a 2 classic cheaper. Keep looking around. Or wait until Amazon's black Friday week.
OR, do what I did and buy a Fossil Q Explorist HR. I LOVE this watch. It looks great, the battery last more than a day, the screen is 1.4 inches, and super fast charging. Brand new, just came out they go for $250-270 depending on the color and band type. I got the gunmetal with the metal band just because I love that color. I don't even use that band.
OR, wait a couple more months for some smartwatches to come out with the new chip.
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Looking to get my first smart watch. Around £250.
I would like it to do the following without a having a phone on me:
Pay with tapping.
Track runs via Strava.
Play music (possibly Spotify?).
I would like the following when I have the phone on me:
Email alerts
SMS
Whatapp
Facebook Messenger
Answer / Make calls (would this count as legal hands-free? ).
The Huawei Smart Watch 2 Classic looks to do all this for about £230 (unless someone else can find it cheaper?).
Any other alternatives that can do the above?
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OK, hopefully I am qualified to provide you with a reasonable answer.
I have had Smartwatches since the beginning I think.
My Huawei watch 1 has finally given up after 3 years, a great service, may it rest in pieces (literally) and my backup Sony SW3 just never feels 'right'.
in my search for a replacement, I have since bought/returned or tried the Samsung Galaxy Watch (46mm), Ticwatch Pro (Amazon deal 180£), A fossil gen 3.
The Samsung is faster than a speeding bullet, well made, awesome bezel thingy, and a great screen. But there's bugger all app support, notifications don't work to my liking (eg it notifies of Twitter feed but not the actual message), slow to charge and battery simply not as great as stated and Samsung Pay, doesn't include Halifax (my bank (well not my bank as in I own it, but rather they have all my money)), expensive additional chargers and expensive watch in the first place.
The Ticwatch Pro - uses same tech as all current items and the LED screen cant be seen in low light or dark, and it was the laggiest of all watches owned/tried and isn't particularly cheap.
I didn't want to buy another HW1 so I purchased an Amazon WH special HW2, just to give it a whirl.. £130
Glad I did. Agreed the screen is too small and was a backward step compared to HW1 but this helps with battery life. It doesn't look like anything special (like a mid range Casio). But it is comfortable, all apps work as they're supposed to, cheap to buy, low-cost spurious chargers (£4!), and once you disable a couple of bloatware apps the battery is incredible and Android Pay works (never had this before).
If you can't wait for watches with 3100 chip (and they're unlikely to perform much better, but hopefully have improved staying power, then I recommend the HW2 .... especially an Amazon special.
I'm currently experimenting with different settings to understand battery implications but with 'Always on' set to off, I can get 3 days if careful), currently trying always on, with simple screen and looks like a comfortable 2 days ... which I could never get with my HW1. Additionally I just discovered it has a watch only facility (bit like the Ticwatch) giving you a month's use as a dumb smart watch.
Thanks for the above... I took the plunge and bought the HW2, A-grade second for £170. It turned up still sealed, with all the protectors on it. Great!
However, it looks like I'll be sending it back unused, as Huawei have leaked that they will be release the GT (baiscally HW3) THIS MONTH and it looks gorgeous.
Available in Classic, Sport and Fashion versions. It will have the new Snapdragon 3100 chipset, a bigger screen, be completely water-proof and a much longer battery life. Whether it will be running Wear OS remains to be seen:
https://www.techradar.com/news/first-huawei-watch-gt-photo-leaks-showing-the-new-design
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OK, hopefully I am qualified to provide you with a reasonable answer.
I have had Smartwatches since the beginning I think.
My Huawei watch 1 has finally given up after 3 years, a great service, may it rest in pieces (literally) and my backup Sony SW3 just never feels 'right'.
in my search for a replacement, I have since bought/returned or tried the Samsung Galaxy Watch (46mm), Ticwatch Pro (Amazon deal 180£), A fossil gen 3.
The Samsung is faster than a speeding bullet, well made, awesome bezel thingy, and a great screen. But there's bugger all app support, notifications don't work to my liking (eg it notifies of Twitter feed but not the actual message), slow to charge and battery simply not as great as stated and Samsung Pay, doesn't include Halifax (my bank (well not my bank as in I own it, but rather they have all my money)), expensive additional chargers and expensive watch in the first place.
The Ticwatch Pro - uses same tech as all current items and the LED screen cant be seen in low light or dark, and it was the laggiest of all watches owned/tried and isn't particularly cheap.
I didn't want to buy another HW1 so I purchased an Amazon WH special HW2, just to give it a whirl.. £130
Glad I did. Agreed the screen is too small and was a backward step compared to HW1 but this helps with battery life. It doesn't look like anything special (like a mid range Casio). But it is comfortable, all apps work as they're supposed to, cheap to buy, low-cost spurious chargers (£4!), and once you disable a couple of bloatware apps the battery is incredible and Android Pay works (never had this before).
If you can't wait for watches with 3100 chip (and they're unlikely to perform much better, but hopefully have improved staying power, then I recommend the HW2 .... especially an Amazon special.
I'm currently experimenting with different settings to understand battery implications but with 'Always on' set to off, I can get 3 days if careful), currently trying always on, with simple screen and looks like a comfortable 2 days ... which I could never get with my HW1. Additionally I just discovered it has a watch only facility (bit like the Ticwatch) giving you a month's use as a dumb smart watch.
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Good for your detailed review. I have gone ahead with HW2 and currently getting almost 20 hours battery life including 1 hour of training with BT headset playing so that itself uses almost 30% with GPS on for tracking activities. Would like to know which 2 apps you froze to give you better battery life. On other items my watch is always on power saving mode and connected to BT all the time with Wifi off and GPS off (on when only needed). At night, its on airplane mode.
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Thanks for the above... I took the plunge and bought the HW2, A-grade second for £170. It turned up still sealed, with all the protectors on it. Great!
However, it looks like I'll be sending it back unused, as Huawei have leaked that they will be release the GT (baiscally HW3) THIS MONTH and it looks gorgeous.
Available in Classic, Sport and Fashion versions. It will have the new Snapdragon 3100 chipset, a bigger screen, be completely water-proof and a much longer battery life. Whether it will be running Wear OS remains to be seen:
https://www.techradar.com/news/first-huawei-watch-gt-photo-leaks-showing-the-new-design
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Did you get that watch? i have seen this watch and tho it looks awesome it based on Huawei OS and not on Wear OS. Second thing which killed it for me was the lack of internal storage. It only has 128 mb ROM. Not sure what you can do with it.
The new Kospet smartwatch, Kospet Optimus Smartwatch, it has dual operating system and dual processor, it look like a good feature, but it could be just a gimmick and just little impact on the overall performance of the smartwatch.
See specs here:https://www.smartwatchspecifications.com/Device/kospet-optimus-smartwatch-specs-review/
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The new Kospet smartwatch, Kospet Optimus Smartwatch, it has dual operating system and dual processor, it look like a good feature, but it could be just a gimmick and just little impact on the overall performance of the smartwatch.
See specs here:https://www.smartwatchspecifications.com/Device/kospet-optimus-smartwatch-specs-review/
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when they find the way i will buy it,no reason to buy,is the same Android 7.1 as the others nothing more.For Android act as a phone same problems or issues,not Bluetooth phone call,same display 1.39" , bigger is better as the Lemfo LemX, the resolution i can said better a little,yeah waterproof at least we can swim for 30 minutes,,we dont about the speaker if is louder or decent even the where are place it, Amoled no good for outside. So for the other MCU(SoC) the nordic,can do a lot of more, they call it Lite OS and as you can see and search this SoC in cheaper regular Bluetooth Smartwatch can do; Health,outdoor activities,Bluetooth notfication and call answer and rejection and fitness with better implementation of the GPS..
So will see
The second processor will dig in if you go to the limited mode where you basically don't have a smartwatch, but a watch. Is this what you look for when buying a smartwatch? I would say no. This is a really poor made device imo. With its gigantic battery for a smartwatch it will stay in stand by mode for 5-7 days. Please note that this is only stand by. If you actually use it, it will last 2-3 days(for example take a look at banggood where they list this). Ofc they say this is with 4g, but it is unknown what the "persistent" mode is.
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The second processor will dig in if you go to the limited mode where you basically don't have a smartwatch, but a watch. Is this what you look for when buying a smartwatch? I would say no. This is a really poor made device imo. With its gigantic battery for a smartwatch it will stay in stand by mode for 5-7 days. Please note that this is only stand by. If you actually use it, it will last 2-3 days(for example take a look at banggood where they list this). Ofc they say this is with 4g, but it is unknown what the "persistent" mode is.
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its really a dump idea because its not implemented,for what reason i need a bracelet mode if i am using the watch as a phone and i wont get get nothing,the only way to work is with a second small display in the band.
I had one of the first Kospet devices and I liked it but it lacked the Lite OS and the always on display. I purchased the Optimus Pro and it arrives this week. The 3GB/32GB version.
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I had one of the first Kospet devices and I liked it but it lacked the Lite OS and the always on display. I purchased the Optimus Pro and it arrives this week. The 3GB/32GB version.
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I just returned my Kospet Optumus Pro - nothing but problems
Pay attention to these details:
Fresh out of the box - you must setup the watch for language and body height/weight/gender - then when the QR code pops up - follow the exact procedure on video below to install the SPECIAL VERSION of WiiWatch 2 app on your Android phone
https://youtu.be/WquMzVsXBmk
Avoid the WiiWatch 2 app on Google Play Store here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.weitetech.WiiWatchPro&hl=en_US
This is crucial procedure for all owners of the Kospet Optimus Pro - as this special WiiWatch 2 app version is required to install all the latest firmware for each processor in the Kospet Optimus Pro
On my Kospet Optimus Pro, problems began right after I installed Google Chrome Browser - (to gain access to all my Google account password credentials for all the URL web sites I participate on ( lots of forums)) - the Heart Monitor stopped working, and the raise watch to enable the watch display stopped working too. Next I entered the new Low Power mode , and thats when I discovered the Watch internal silent alarm buzzer would start, and never stop and just remained buzzing the whole time - sadly I made this discovery after the watch had been sitting on a desk buzzing for 15 minutes straight!
Only recourse is turn off the watch - but that did not function until after I placed the watch in the USB charging cradle , then it responded to the upper right side power button ( long 30 second press) - after a full 2 hour charge , I removed all apps, and verified I had the latest firmware version
Kospet Optimus Pro firmware reports
Build Number = Kospet_Optimus_Pro_V1.5_20190523
KERNEL VERSION = 4.4.22
Thu May 23 16:56 10CST 2019
Baseband Version MOLYLR12A R2.MP.V5.23.P10
SERIAL NUMBER - 0123456789ABCDEF ( WTF?)
Frankly it smells like I may have a counterfeit Optimus Pro - other owners might want to review their "About Watch properties and inspect their serial number , as surely a S/N of "1234567890ABCDEF" is not valid!
https://youtu.be/0Ne11J7U-0w
Here are the results - no third party apps installed and no Sim Card installed
= non stop buzzing in low power mode at all times - and no remedy from Kospet Support -they point me to the useless "FullAndroidWatch.com forum
https://discourse.fullandroidwatch.com/t/kospet-optimus-pro-constant-buzz-in-low-power-mode/47540
And tell me "Update firmware and reset" - did that several times - no fix
Had to return watch to Ebay seller
limestar said:
I had one of the first Kospet devices and I liked it but it lacked the Lite OS and the always on display. I purchased the Optimus Pro and it arrives this week. The 3GB/32GB version.
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Greetings, mate can you tell me your experiences with this watch please, how are you satisfied with it? How long last the battery? Are there any good apps for that circle resolution? Thx.
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Greetings, mate can you tell me your experiences with this watch please, how are you satisfied with it? How long last the battery? Are there any good apps for that circle resolution? Thx.
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the most of the apps will work as there is an option to make the screen square. there is also an other option to optimize 3th party apps.
as for the battery life it's not bad at all. I use mine with sim card installed and I did not run out of the juice at the end of the day yet. so surely 1, maybe up to 2 days of "normal" use
in the "long standby" probably a week or two on one charge. I switch between the two modes depending on if I want to take my phone with me or not.
much on this watch remains to be fixed (gps integration with the stock fitness app, a working tethering app etc), but for what I use it ( 2nd phone and audio media consumption) I'd say it's pretty cool.
best regards
Kospet watches are nice to wear BUT they are not compatible with the VERIZON network. Sprint only offers a Dara plan, no voice or text. No matter who you have the phone can not make bluetooth calls.
It turns out to be little more than a wrist watch that doesn't offer near what you think.