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So I am using CM10.1 with CWM recovery. What will I have to do when a new version of Android comes out? (4.2.3 or 5.0)
And will I lose my root access?
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Either flash a new ROM that's built on the new version, or go back to stock.
username8611 said:
Either flash a new ROM that's built on the new version, or go back to stock.
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And to flash that ROM, do you have to get new bootloader and baseband or what?
And go back to stock: do you mean to flash the factory image, or can you also get OTA updates by restoring a nandroid backup of the stock rom?
once you are rooted, unlocked and with custom recovery changing ROMs is as simple as puting zip onto your devices' internal storage and flashing it through recovery. you COULD be asked to flash a newer radio version, however it is not that common.
no OTA when rooted, going back to stock only with facotry images.
anyway 5.0 will be availabale on custom ROMs shortly after or even before official google OTA so no need to unroot.
dzumagos said:
once you are rooted, unlocked and with custom recovery changing ROMs is as simple as puting zip onto your devices' internal storage and flashing it through recovery. you COULD be asked to flash a newer radio version, however it is not that common.
no OTA when rooted, going back to stock only with facotry images.
anyway 5.0 will be availabale on custom ROMs shortly after or even before official google OTA so no need to unroot.
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So when 5.0 comes out, I just have to wait a day and flash a new CM version without flashing a new bootloader or radio?
And will it directly be stable?
Thibaultvw said:
So when 5.0 comes out, I just have to wait a day and flash a new CM version without flashing a new bootloader or radio?
And will it directly be stable?
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Android 5.0 is far away by now, and nobody can tell you yet about stability
i´m sure it will get announced, just check the CM thread and read about (possible) bugs
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So when 5.0 comes out, I just have to wait a day and flash a new CM version without flashing a new bootloader or radio?
And will it directly be stable?
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As long as you read threads properly you'll know whether or not anything extra needs to be flashed. Even if there is something you need to flash in the future, it should be fairly easy. Normally a flashable .zip is released soon after the official release so you won't even need a PC. Personally I think it's useless to worry about it right now.
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And to flash that ROM, do you have to get new bootloader and baseband or what?
And go back to stock: do you mean to flash the factory image, or can you also get OTA updates by restoring a nandroid backup of the stock rom?
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Radios and boot loaders are completely separate from ROMs. You have to specifically flash a radio or boot loader separately. But no, you should not need to flash them but it would be worthwhile if a newer version came out
username8611 said:
Radios and boot loaders are completely separate from ROMs. You have to specifically flash a radio or boot loader separately. But no, you should not need to flash them but it would be worthwhile if a newer version came out
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I am a bit scared of flashing bootloader and baseband, because I read someone who flashed a wrong one and his phone completely got bricked. Some other guy said in that thread why would you manually flash a bootloader..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108247
If I restore my Nandroid backup of 4.2.2 stock ROM, am I able to get OTA update? (I dont care if I would lose root, the question is if its possible ) or is it impossible since I am running CWM recovery?
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Guys it won't be 5.0 gmail 4.3 = android 4.3
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Phone was OTA to Lollipop and now I want downgrade it to Kitkat. It's not rooted or anything.
shakur1992 said:
Phone was OTA to Lollipop and now I want downgrade it to Kitkat. It's not rooted or anything.
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here you can find the factory image of your device.... Just flash it
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
bootloader version?
Hi,
I read somewhere that the version of the bootloader is changed. And this means that just flashing is not ok. I am not a pro at this, so it may be bullocks. I have a friend with Moto G (older model) and flashed Lollipop, unlocking the bootloader. Then he wanted kitkat back, and the phone is now bricked. Can you confirm that just regular KitKat flash is the only thing necessary?
na4o007 said:
Hi,
I read somewhere that the version of the bootloader is changed. And this means that just flashing is not ok. I am not a pro at this, so it may be bullocks. I have a friend with Moto G (older model) and flashed Lollipop, unlocking the bootloader. Then he wanted kitkat back, and the phone is now bricked. Can you confirm that just regular KitKat flash is the only thing necessary?
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It won't brick you're device, it's a nexus. You can flash previous bootloaders without a problem. Do a complete flash though of all the image files, or just use the flash-all.bat. It will wipe your device so backup first, off your device
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Just wanted to let you guys know that the 5.1 OTA is rolling out as we speak. My girl's got a German Moto X, and received the OTA today!
She's now on 222.21.15.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE. The build number is LPA23.12-15.
And here I am waiting for it with my Dutch Retail.en.EU version..
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Just wanted to let you guys know that the 5.1 OTA is rolling out as we speak. My girl's got a German Moto X, and received the OTA today!
She's now on 222.21.15.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE. The build number is LPA23.12-15.
And here I am waiting for it with my Dutch Retail.en.EU version..
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Can you look to list of languages? Has this OTA Ukrainian language (Українська)?
Unfortunately it doesn't include Ukrainian localization.
Anyone knows where to get this Ota in a rsd lite flashable form?
When we got OTA zip file, then we do RSD one )
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tommert38 said:
She's now on 222.21.15.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE. The build number is LPA23.12-15
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Any possibility to get OTA zip?
johnrangoo said:
Anyone knows where to get this Ota in a rsd lite flashable form?
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you can't flash the OTA via RSDLite.
Someone could try updating via Motorola Device Manager on their PC, and see if an FXZ/SBF comes down that can be captured.
Or if someone who is rooted can download, but not apply the OTA, they can grab the OTA ZIP file from their /cache folder... then you could follow the Side Load instructions from -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-return-to-stock-recovery-rooted-t3027079
That being said.. if this is a SOAK being performed, it shouldn't be long until it starts being pushed to all users of that model. Of course it will come in waves, so once the official push to that model comes, it may take up to a week until it hits all phones.
And anyone who takes part in the MFN tests would be violating the NDA they signed to take part, if they leak the file. Moto got the links to prior leaks removed, so it stands to reason they might do the same for other leaks.
KidJoe said:
you can't flash the OTA via RSDLite.
Someone could try updating via Motorola Device Manager on their PC, and see if an FXZ/SBF comes down that can be captured.
Or if someone who is rooted can download, but not apply the OTA, they can grab the OTA ZIP file from their /cache folder... then you could follow the Side Load instructions from -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-return-to-stock-recovery-rooted-t3027079
That being said.. if this is a SOAK being performed, it shouldn't be long until it starts being pushed to all users of that model. Of course it will come in waves, so once the official push to that model comes, it may take up to a week until it hits all phones.
And anyone who takes part in the MFN tests would be violating the NDA they signed to take part, if they leak the file. Moto got the links to prior leaks removed, so it stands to reason they might do the same for other leaks.
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You should flash full FW by RSD, not OTA.
md07 said:
You should flash full FW by RSD, not OTA.
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Which is what I said...
I think maybe you should have quoted @johnrangoo who asked the question...
KidJoe said:
Which is what I said...
I think maybe you should have quoted @johnrangoo who asked the question...
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I stay tuned.. because I have a German Retail Moto X.. the ota zip is flashable via stock recovery.. right?
I have a question.. there is a safe way to downgrade to stock kitkat (just in case)?
bart.found said:
I stay tuned.. because I have a German Retail Moto X.. the ota zip is flashable via stock recovery.. right?
I have a question.. there is a safe way to downgrade to stock kitkat (just in case)?
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Yes, the OTA zip must be flashed from Stock Recovery. And there are also some other conditions. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/faq-how-to-prepare-ota-update-carriers-t3126425
As for downgrade... It is always suggested to never downgrade. If you downgrade, you risk bricking. see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
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Yes, the OTA zip must be flashed from Stock Recovery. And there are also some other conditions. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/faq-how-to-prepare-ota-update-carriers-t3126425
As for downgrade... It is always suggested to never downgrade. If you downgrade, you risk bricking. see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
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OMG it's a huge amount of informations!! If I understood, even if I have a retail version with unlockable bootloader, it is impossible to revert to a stock old version without the risk of a (hard)brick!!! :S
Does exist, at least, a stock rom flashable through custom recovery on newer bootloader versions? Or, alternatively, custom ROMs that are able to properly use the particular hardware of this device (without losing all its smart features?)
Thanks for the reply... I'll read it more carefully later
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...If I understood, even if I have a retail version with unlockable bootloader, it is impossible to revert to a stock old version without the risk of a (hard)brick!!! :S
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Correct.
bart.found said:
Does exist, at least, a stock rom flashable through custom recovery on newer bootloader versions? Or, alternatively, custom ROMs that are able to properly use the particular hardware of this device (without losing all its smart features?)
Thanks for the reply... I'll read it more carefully later
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As of yet, for Lollipop. No. What exists are "backups" of LEAKED test versions of Lollipop for other models and carriers. (Brazil XT1058 for example)
When the OTA finally pushes, you'll need to be stock, and on stock recovery to apply it.. OR wait for someone to create something like a "backup" which you can restore in TWRP, or a custom rom version BASED on the stock rom.
Keep in mind, that unless you apply the stock OTA which is pushed by your carrier/motorola, you might miss parts that get updated. In other words, the TWRP BACKUPS of the leaked test versions only include the /System partition. It does not include the partition table file, the bootloader, the modems, etc. and the other parts that are updated by the OTA.
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Correct.
As of yet, for Lollipop. No. What exists are "backups" of LEAKED test versions of Lollipop for other models and carriers. (Brazil XT1058 for example)
When the OTA finally pushes, you'll need to be stock, and on stock recovery to apply it.. OR wait for someone to create something like a "backup" which you can restore in TWRP, or a custom rom version BASED on the stock rom.
Keep in mind, that unless you apply the stock OTA which is pushed by your carrier/motorola, you might miss parts that get updated. In other words, the TWRP BACKUPS of the leaked test versions only include the /System partition. It does not include the partition table file, the bootloader, the modems, etc. and the other parts that are updated by the OTA.
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My phone is stock unrooted with locked bootloader in this moment.. I think I'll wait for OTA or, at most, sideload the correct OTA for my model and flash it through stock recovery.
My question was if exist a stock KitKat firmware flashable through custom recovery over Lollipop bootloader!! Just in case I'd like to revert without losing any feature!
Thank you!
bart.found said:
My phone is stock unrooted with locked bootloader in this moment.. I think I'll wait for OTA or, at most, sideload the correct OTA for my model and flash it through stock recovery.
My question was if exist a stock KitKat firmware flashable through custom recovery over Lollipop bootloader!! Just in case I'd like to revert without losing any feature!
Thank you!
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Why take OTA if you can just install a TWRP-backup of Lollipop... only then u can downgrade without the risk of bricking your device.
bart.found said:
My phone is stock unrooted with locked bootloader in this moment.. I think I'll wait for OTA or, at most, sideload the correct OTA for my model and flash it through stock recovery.
My question was if exist a stock KitKat firmware flashable through custom recovery over Lollipop bootloader!! Just in case I'd like to revert without losing any feature!
Thank you!
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If you are LOCKED BOOTLOADER, you can't run a custom recovery on the 2013 X. So that question is No, you can't.
And as for downgrading, Please DO NOT!! Instead, Read that entire thread, trust me, it explains why I say that.
KidJoe said:
If you are LOCKED BOOTLOADER, you can't run a custom recovery on the 2013 X. So that question is No, you can't.
And as for downgrading, Please DO NOT!! Instead, Read that entire thread, trust me, it explains why I say that.
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I finally read everything!!!
What I understand:
1) NEVER downgrade your bootloader or your stock firmware! If you don't want to brick immediately or later XD
What I didn't understand:
1) I have a German retail moto x xt1052.. can I unlock my bootloader, root and flash custom recovery/firmware? I suppose yes, even if my device isn't listed on motorola official page (can I use sunshine or other methods?)
2) Does any custom ROM, able to use all moto x features like touchless control or lift to wake etc, exist? Because I noticed that most custom ROMs aren't able to use that features (probably due to the lack of binaries), at least on lollipop.. I don't know if CM11 or slimkat or other AOSP based or stock based rom can properly use that damn X8 processor!
Thank you.. and sorry for bothering you so much, but I don't really want to damage my device!!!
bart.found said:
I finally read everything!!!
What I understand:
1) NEVER downgrade your bootloader or your stock firmware! If you don't want to brick immediately or later XD
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Correct.
bart.found said:
What I didn't understand:
1) I have a German retail moto x xt1052.. can I unlock my bootloader, root and flash custom recovery/firmware? I suppose yes, even if my device isn't listed on motorola official page (can I use sunshine or other methods?)
2) Does any custom ROM, able to use all moto x features like touchless control or lift to wake etc, exist? Because I noticed that most custom ROMs aren't able to use that features (probably due to the lack of binaries), at least on lollipop.. I don't know if CM11 or slimkat or other AOSP based or stock based rom can properly use that damn X8 processor!
Thank you.. and sorry for bothering you so much, but I don't really want to damage my device!!!
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1. The XT1052 could get its bootloader unlock code direct from Moto. After unlocking the bootloader you can flash customer recovery, root, and/or flash a 3rd party custom rom.
2. Any custom rom built on TOP of Moto's stock rom, could still retain those stock moto features. AOSP based roms, CM11/12 based roms, etc. will not include the stock moto features. However they may include 3rd party apps which mimic those features, but might not work as well.
Does 5.1 include hebrew language support as in 4.4.4?
amarguli said:
Does 5.1 include hebrew language support as in 4.4.4?
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If the stock Moto rom for your carrier/model X includes it, then yes, 5.1 update should include it as well.
I want to have 4.4.4 back instead of the ota given 5.1 update. Is there a nearly unmodified xt1052 stock 4.4.4 flashable with trwp?
Hi guys
I unlocked bootloader and rooted the system in moto x play xt1562. On bootloader screen, it says Software status: Modified. But after flashing stock rom, it remains Modified. Any chance restore it to Official?
Which stick ROM did you flash? Did your flash include the recovery?
sharadmau said:
Hi guys
I unlocked bootloader and rooted the system in moto x play xt1562. On bootloader screen, it says Software status: Modified. But after flashing stock rom, it remains Modified. Any chance restore it to Official?
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I also wanted to know if this is possible
When I restored the official ROM, the bootloader show me Official, but when I instaled a custom recovery, the status changed to modified... Try to see if you flashed the original recovery via ADB
sharadmau said:
Hi guys
I unlocked bootloader and rooted the system in moto x play xt1562. On bootloader screen, it says Software status: Modified. But after flashing stock rom, it remains Modified. Any chance restore it to Official?
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It stays that way I think.
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I had lollipop 5.1.1 in my moto x play xt1562 .. I unlock bootloader & installed custom recovery. Then I got the Marshmallo STOCK ROM for xt1562 ... So i relock bootloader & flash it again via fastboot.
After flashing my bootloader get locked but software status is still modified.
tag68 said:
Which stick ROM did you flash? Did your flash include the recovery?
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I installed Marshmallow 6.0 Stock ROM
sharadmau said:
I installed Marshmallow 6.0 Stock ROM
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Only way to get software status Official is installing the Stock Rom 5.1.1 that comes with the device, otherwise, it won't happen.
sharadmau said:
I installed Marshmallow 6.0 Stock ROM
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If the ROM is official and unmodified it should be fine. AFAIK there is only a soak test version of 6.0 available. I'm not sure if it contains recovery, if yes if you flashed it and if the version has status unmodified. Maybe someone else who uses 6.0 knows.
You have to change the flag back using something like Bootunlocker to get it to show again. Or is that just the tamper flag?
sharadmau said:
Hi guys
I unlocked bootloader and rooted the system in moto x play xt1562. On bootloader screen, it says Software status: Modified. But after flashing stock rom, it remains Modified. Any chance restore it to Official?
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Maybe the bootloader is still unlocked therfore it happens.
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Bootloader unlocked should not affect this software state. Afaik it makes no sense to relock bootloader at all, except maybe if you lend your device to someone you do not trust.
tag68 said:
If the ROM is official and unmodified it should be fine. AFAIK there is only a soak test version of 6.0 available. I'm not sure if it contains recovery, if yes if you flashed it and if the version has status unmodified. Maybe someone else who uses 6.0 knows.
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Canadians are getting official OTA updates which are not soak test.
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No luck
lefurtadoo said:
Only way to get software status Official is installing the Stock Rom 5.1.1 that comes with the device, otherwise, it won't happen.
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I flashed stock unmodiffied rom and system etc from fastboot commands, still no luck, system status is modified.
My moto x play, new from amazon shows Software state modified too. I don't root and not change recovery. Everything stock. I flashed stock india 5.1.1 rom and then indian M OTA. It says Software state modified. Sorry for my english.
iniro said:
My moto x play, new from amazon shows Software state modified too. I don't root and not change recovery. Everything stock. I flashed stock india 5.1.1 rom and then indian M OTA. It says Software state modified. Sorry for my english.
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When everything was new, then why did you flashed stock rom.
It's because of that flashing it is showing modified status.
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I flashed stock rom when indian ota releases. I flashed to get ota earlier.
iniro said:
I flashed stock rom when indian ota releases. I flashed to get ota earlier.
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It's because of flashing that rom. Don't worry
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I hace same problem please aniyone helpme?
hey i have the solution
in order to get status official
you will need to flash 5.1.1 stock rom and then update to 6.0 ota
then only it is possible!
My phone is unlocked and rooted. It wants to download the OTA but I know that Motorola says on their site you will have problems with the OTA. Should I download it or Should I flash a ROM.
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My phone is unlocked and rooted. It wants to download the OTA but I know that Motorola says on their site you will have problems with the OTA. Should I download it or Should I flash a ROM.
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You must be PURE stock to take an OTA update, or it will fail and bootloop... Flash a rom if you wish.
What i did was make a back up of everything just incase and then look up the ota version on your phone and get it in the rom section and look up twrp flashable OTAs and just flash it. you might lose root but its easy to get back if you flash magisk again.
You can found the right guide here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/guide-complex-ota-update-magisk-rooted-t3688175
does anyone have fastboot stock rom?
siddhesh9146 said:
does anyone have fastboot stock rom?
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Of the current version? lol, no, we wish... we are averaging 3-6 months behind OTA releases for full ROM images, if we get them at all. Moto does not officially provide them, so they have to be leaked somehow, and sources are completely dried up yet, but it's getting there. :/
Hi. Can I get Oreo Ota for mi xt1670 with rooted device but locked BL? I'm on stock everything. Thanks.
mortadelax said:
Hi. Can I get Oreo Ota for mi xt1670 with rooted device but locked BL? I'm on stock everything. Thanks.
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You can't be rooted with a locked bootloader so your question is obsolete.
You can apply to OTA with an unlocked bootloader.
You can't if you're rooted or changed anything else in /system or /vendor.
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Wolfcity said:
You can't be rooted with a locked bootloader so your question is obsolete.
You can apply to OTA with an unlocked bootloader.
You can't if you're rooted or changed anything else in /system or /vendor.
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Thanks for the reply. Very clear! Please I need more help. The thing is...I don't want the oreo ota right now. This is my mother's phone so I don't want any problem. Nougat is just fine for now. So I need to stop the upgrade notification spam. I believe I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the upgrader app. Is that correct? I can't force stop the app. That's for now.
I've read bad reviews about oreo battery drain and other stuff. That's why I'm trying to avoid it.
If someday I want it, maybe will install some rom.
Thanks bro.
EDIT. Does this make sense? Or should I stay stock everything and take the ota/ignore the spam everyday?
EDIT 2. Another question. What happen if I take the oreo ota, and i don't like it. Can I unlock BL, root, install some nougat rom, as a pseudo downgrade?
mortadelax said:
Thanks for the reply. Very clear! Please I need more help. The thing is...I don't want the oreo ota right now. This is my mother's phone so I don't want any problem. Nougat is just fine for now. So I need to stop the upgrade notification spam. I believe I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the upgrader app. Is that correct? I can't force stop the app. That's for now.
I've read bad reviews about oreo battery drain and other stuff. That's why I'm trying to avoid it.
If someday I want it, maybe will install some rom.
Thanks bro.
EDIT. Does this make sense? Or should I stay stock everything and take the ota/ignore the spam everyday?
EDIT 2. Another question. What happen if I take the oreo ota, and i don't like it. Can I unlock BL, root, install some nougat rom, as a pseudo downgrade?
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Oreo ist absolutely fine, no problems with it.
I haven't heard of any issues like increased battery drain, for me nothing changed at all regarding battery and the rest is also working flawlessly.
It would be a lot of action to unlock and root the device just to stop the updater service.
If you don't have any other plans that need root privileges I recommend just taking the OTA (s).
If you want to run another ROM later you can always unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, root the device and install any kind of custom ROM, Nougat, Oreo or Pie. There are also TWRP flashable stock firmwares which make it easy to move between different stock versions.
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Wolfcity said:
If you want to run another ROM later you can always unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, root the device and install any kind of custom ROM, Nougat, Oreo or Pie. There are also TWRP flashable stock firmwares which make it easy to move between different stock versions.
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That's good. A pseudo downgrade is possible. Thanks man. I'll think about it. And yes, the root privileges is just for stopping the updater.
Cheers
EDIT. Man, are you sure about this? Taking the Oreo Ota, and in the future unlock BL, root and install whatever rom?
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That's good. A pseudo downgrade is possible. Thanks man. I'll think about it. And yes, the root privileges is just for stopping the updater.
Cheers
EDIT. Man, are you sure about this? Taking the Oreo Ota, and in the future unlock BL, root and install whatever rom?
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Yes I am.
Just check some of the custom ROM threads, there are some that need stock Nougat as base but the most of them need Oreo. For custom ROMs there are no up/downgrading problems, that's only the case for stock firmwares.
And as said above, there are TWRP flashable stock builds that doesn't have these problems too and will bring you to whatever stock firmware you want, not just pseudo. (Here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482 )
So if you're on stock Oreo after unlocking the bootloader and flashing TWRP all options are open for you. Just don't forget to make a full nandroid backup incl. EFS and persist before you flash anything.
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