Buying a Mate 8 from China. What to look for? - Mate 8 General

Hello, guys!
I am interested in buying the Mate 8 from a Chinease retailer. My main motivation is that they offer lower prices on the device. However I am aware that there are some "risks" involved so I wanted to make this tread, hoping that some usefull advice can be gathered here.
Firstly, I understand that there are a couple of versions of the Mate 8. As far they are conserned the only ones worth considering are the AL10, L29 and L09 since the other versions, like DL00 for instance, have poor software support. Does this mean that the former enjoy regular software updates? In the case of the AL10 can one receive the uptades regulary if he is not residing in China? Does Huawei push montly security patches?
My second consern is regarding google play services. As far as I understand a buyer of an AL10 would receive the device without google play store and google services. Is it true that the device comes with a Huawei app store from where they can be downloaded? Are there any issues regarding the installation and regular usage of the play store and other apps that are downloaded on an AL10?After all it is a Chinease version so perhaps it was not meant to have play store on it.
Thirdly I would like to ask whether one should allow the retailer to install google play and multi-ling support? I ask this because it came to my knowledge that these vendors would usually install some kind of custom rom that does not have software support.
Is there something that I am missing? Would you have any further advice? Is there something else one must look after when buying a device from China?

I bought mine here
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1968447 (not sure if i can show a link to a store).
take a DHL and tell them to write on package that is worth about 80 usd to pay less taxes.
Ive got a DL00 version, 32 rom, 3 ram. Its multilanguage support with a play store and OTA updates support. Working great, smooth and fast. And it was cheaper than in polish store about 30% !
They got support on whatsapp and they help you in your problems.
I can highly recommend it to you. If you have any questions u can always prv me.

I bought the mate 8 just after it released in China (I went in person). I am now residing in Australia and still receive the updates as fast as others in China. The only issue is some apps and features (like the update change log) are in Chinese and I can't change it, not that bad for me but maybe it is for you.
It comes with Huaweis app store which upon searching google can install all the normal google apps like the appstore. I've had absolutely no issues using it normally here and every app and setting I need works.
I wouldn't get them to do anything to the phone because it's easy to do myself.
Repping the Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

ItsMunday said:
I bought the mate 8 just after it released in China (I went in person). I am now residing in Australia and still receive the updates as fast as others in China. The only issue is some apps and features (like the update change log) are in Chinese and I can't change it, not that bad for me but maybe it is for you.
It comes with Huaweis app store which upon searching google can install all the normal google apps like the appstore. I've had absolutely no issues using it normally here and every app and setting I need works.
I wouldn't get them to do anything to the phone because it's easy to do myself.
Repping the Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
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I am glad to hear that your device works properly!
I suppose when you first set it up you have the option to choose between English and Chinease right? Do you need to have a huawei account to download apps from the Huawei app store? If yes, did you have any issues setting it up? I am asking because I have heard that some people do have. Regarding the change log it would't botter me if it is in Chinease, but is there something more "major" that is also in Chinease and one should know of?

You can convert the China Version AL 10 to C432 Euroversion or C636 Asia Version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/general/guide-how-to-switch-to-stock-firmware-t3374259

Ifo0 said:
I am glad to hear that your device works properly!
I suppose when you first set it up you have the option to choose between English and Chinease right? Do you need to have a huawei account to download apps from the Huawei app store? If yes, did you have any issues setting it up? I am asking because I have heard that some people do have. Regarding the change log it would't botter me if it is in Chinease, but is there something more "major" that is also in Chinease and one should know of?
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Yeah it's like any phone that has the option to change language on start up.
Had no issues setting up Huawei account. Not sure if it's needed or not though.
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letschky said:
You can convert the China Version AL 10 to C432 Euroversion or C636 Asia Version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/general/guide-how-to-switch-to-stock-firmware-t3374259
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I'm getting a broken link.
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I've just bought the Mate 8 in Guangzhou on last Sunday (Sept 25, 2016) in a Huawei store. Installed Google services, sync contacts.. without any problem!

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First impressions of Mate 8 Chinese version

Hello folks
I ordered my Huawei Mate 8, 4GB RAM, x64 Octacore, 128 GB of internal storage on the 23rd of January 2016 from Amazon.it. On the 27th of January, the DHL arrived and delivered my phone! Since it came from China I had to pay 29 euros tax! I contacted the vendor and got this money reimbursed to me in no time.
So what is my first impression?
First of all, I have to say that the phone I got is destined to the Chinese market and not the European market. In fact, there are built in apps that even if you perform a hard reset and select English as the default language, some apps are still in Chinese.
From the hardware perspective, I can't say anything against it! Mate 8 is a real beast and dwarfs any other phone I've seen in size and performance!
What I personally didn't like about the device isn't the hardware, but the software and apps found/missing. After a complete reset, I thought I'd be able to login using my Gmail account, but there were no Google apps installed! So I had to download then from the browser
After I installed Google Play, I also had to manually download and install Google Contact Sync to sync my contacts!
The dialer has a Chinese app called Yellow Pages that you can't remove if you are not rooted. When you start typing numbers, it will automatically search YP and try to match the number with the company (paste the below path and add http to it. I'm a new user and apparently I can't post images yet)
Image here http://postimg.org/image/n3a6br0cj
The HiApp application also is entirely in Chinese
http://postimg.org/image/r5wsiudv7
The stock browser also is in Chinese and many other applications. If I am to give an advice to anyone, I'd say wait for the European version to come, because the device is really rocking, but the Chinese language might be irritating especially that you cannot remove some apps because you need root access!
Huawei permits you to unblock the bootloader, BUT, your device must be registered and you must have a HUAWEI ID and you must be using that device for at least 14 days (i.e. logged on, with Huawei ID on that device for at least 14 days). This isn't a problem, I can wait, otherwise with 4 or 5 euros there are some unofficial alternatives, but I prefer the official way, so I'll wait.
This is my device before I received OTA update (I live in Italy) while at home with my wireless connection
http://postimg.org/image/pm523nt4r
Is there a way to flash a European ROM to this device?
Will it work fine?
Does Huawei have any stock repository of ROMs to flash back?
Thank you
say what now, u got reimbursed by the seller because u had to pay import tax?! um.... isnt that a given when u order something from CHINA to ship to europe? btw, 29 euros is nothing, especially for the 128GB variant! are the import taxes THAT low in italy? dayum...
as for the chinese apps, even a factory reset wont remove those, since theyre preinstalled system apps. ud need to root your phone and use an app like titanium backup to properly remove them. or you can use something like debloater app and disable those apps...
yes, the thing with the google apps is actually a known thing on the chinese mate 8 phones. only the international models have those preinstalled. but good work on figuring out how to setup everything properly on your own
as for your last three questions, just take the time and read through the mate 8 forums here on xda, weve already accumulated a lot of info and experience and are still at it
enjoy your new beast!
cheers
Thanks
Thanks for replying mate. Yes, I've just seen a thread talking about flashing a European ROM to a Chinese phone and it worked. The thing I didn't like is that the user had to pay 20 dollars to download it from an Iranian site... Hmmm, I'll pass and wait patiently for a more secure version.
Thanks for the heads up
Taxes
Oh by the way, taxes in Italy are high, but the vendor (EtoTalk) didn't declare the official price on the package to avoid taxing!
Yes, that is what I expected, if I buy something from Amazon.it, then everything should be included in the price I pay. I contacted the vendor from Amazon then sent him the DHL receipt and in one working day I was reimbursed. I know, 28 euros are nothing with respect to the phone itself, but why leave them anyway? I could buy a good cover for it as I don't like the Golden original flip cover it came with!
nothing "unsecure" about that, im actually sporting that version on my phone and it works brilliantly
but, just so it happens, a new B152 international ROM is available now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mat...32b152-ota-t3307707/post65135452#post65135452
edit: good job with getting reimbursed, i was just surprised, thats all
first of all congratulation for buying this nice phone
really am also so interested in buying this phone specially 128gb of internal storage
now after u buy and use this version do u advice me to buy this one
i read ur post in this thread but is the Chinese apps and missing a main google apps is so bothering u and make u to search for flashing European firmware instead of this room !!!
one last question ( is the Arabic languages available in the languages list or not )
thnx
well its not like i speak or understand arabic, but looking at the languages one is able to choose for the system, it seems there are a few language options with arabic type letters
this is on the chinese model AL10 running with B133 international rom
For international rom yes for sure.
medicalman said:
first of all congratulation for buying this nice phone
really am also so interested in buying this phone specially 128gb of internal storage
now after u buy and use this version do u advice me to buy this one
i read ur post in this thread but is the Chinese apps and missing a main google apps is so bothering u and make u to search for flashing European firmware instead of this room !!!
one last question ( is the Arabic languages available in the languages list or not )
thnx
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Also the Chinese phone has Arabic support. I managed to change the entire phone language to Arabic.
التلفون رهيب و ممكن تحوله للعربي مثل اي تلفون.
لكن موجود فيه بعض البرامج الصينية التي لا يمكن التخلص منها بدون root.
أما التلفون فلا غبار عليه!
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Also the Chinese phone has Arabic support. I managed to change the entire phone language to Arabic.
التلفون رهيب و ممكن تحوله للعربي مثل اي تلفون.
لكن موجود فيه بعض البرامج الصينية التي لا يمكن التخلص منها بدون root.
أما التلفون فلا غبار عليه!
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thnx for ur replay
so you advice me to buy the phone with manually solving the google apps services
medicalman said:
thnx for ur replay
so you advice me to buy the phone with manually solving the google apps services
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Well, I discovered that the Chinese version has got its own application the replaces the Google Play service (maybe in China, they don't want the Google Play Service as in the rest of the world). The application is part of the Chinese firmware and is called HiApp. When you open it, it gives you all the applications in Chinese, but if you search for Google Play it will give you the official Google Play to install through this application. So basically, you have everything in this phone. I am not aware of any 128 GB international version of Mate 8. Maybe there will be one in few months, but I am not the one to speak for this. Actually, the reason I bought this Chinese version is because my old device was broken beyond repair and I badly needed an Android device, and I couldn't wait more. And since I wanted a 128 GB internal storage along with my lovely 128 GB SanDisk SD, now I have about 250 GB of storage to travel with! I didn't know that the device will be Chinese, I thought it would be the overseas version sent from China.
I payed 777 euros for this version, which isn't small, but with respect to what I would have payed for the same device in Europe, I think I have spared at least 200 euros.
The vendor was kind enough to change the UI language to Italian, so I didn't even have to do anything! I tried a hard reset because I thought that I would get the standard Android Wizard (insert your gmail account to restore your data bla bla bla), but all I was offered was to create a Huawei ID/Huawei cloud, and nothing more! It is then when I discovered that there is no Google Apps by default...
Apart from that and from few Chinese-only applications like Yellow Pages, HiApp, and some few others, the device is rockingly solid! Even if it was a European version, an Android device in my opinion should be rooted! This is the first thing I do with any device I get my hands on and own. Root, then install SuperUser, then get rid of some bloatware or crapware, and install AdAway (an application that downloads a hosts file to your system to redirect all ads to 127.0.0.1, or simply, you wouldn't see any advertisements inside the applications).
Personally, I wouldn't want to flash the onverseas firmware on this device... at least not for now that I am still exploring, and testing the device. Maybe in the future, maybe never, it depends on my mood I guess and my curiosity to explore new things...
I don't want to be the person who gives you an advise that you would regret in the future. I am merely writing my own thoughts, and I encourage you to evaluate all the cons and pros, and decide by yourself. I believe I have made a choice and it is a very good choice. I am very happy with this device and I do not regret that I bought the Chinese version... This device will be my device at least for the next two years from now, until it becomes obsolete
Ciao
Same here got the China version from Wanda mobile Google play and unlocked already . this phone is fast only few China apps but that doesn't bother me, I would usually root but need my Barclay's all at the moment .. All in all very very happy
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HuaweiMate8 said:
Well, I discovered that the Chinese version has got its own application the replaces the Google Play service (maybe in China, they don't want the Google Play Service as in the rest of the world). The application is part of the Chinese firmware and is called HiApp. When you open it, it gives you all the applications in Chinese, but if you search for Google Play it will give you the official Google Play to install through this application. So basically, you have everything in this phone. I am not aware of any 128 GB international version of Mate 8. Maybe there will be one in few months, but I am not the one to speak for this. Actually, the reason I bought this Chinese version is because my old device was broken beyond repair and I badly needed an Android device, and I couldn't wait more. And since I wanted a 128 GB internal storage along with my lovely 128 GB SanDisk SD, now I have about 250 GB of storage to travel with! I didn't know that the device will be Chinese, I thought it would be the overseas version sent from China.
I payed 777 euros for this version, which isn't small, but with respect to what I would have payed for the same device in Europe, I think I have spared at least 200 euros.
The vendor was kind enough to change the UI language to Italian, so I didn't even have to do anything! I tried a hard reset because I thought that I would get the standard Android Wizard (insert your gmail account to restore your data bla bla bla), but all I was offered was to create a Huawei ID/Huawei cloud, and nothing more! It is then when I discovered that there is no Google Apps by default...
Apart from that and from few Chinese-only applications like Yellow Pages, HiApp, and some few others, the device is rockingly solid! Even if it was a European version, an Android device in my opinion should be rooted! This is the first thing I do with any device I get my hands on and own. Root, then install SuperUser, then get rid of some bloatware or crapware, and install AdAway (an application that downloads a hosts file to your system to redirect all ads to 127.0.0.1, or simply, you wouldn't see any advertisements inside the applications).
Personally, I wouldn't want to flash the onverseas firmware on this device... at least not for now that I am still exploring, and testing the device. Maybe in the future, maybe never, it depends on my mood I guess and my curiosity to explore new things...
I don't want to be the person who gives you an advise that you would regret in the future. I am merely writing my own thoughts, and I encourage you to evaluate all the cons and pros, and decide by yourself. I believe I have made a choice and it is a very good choice. I am very happy with this device and I do not regret that I bought the Chinese version... This device will be my device at least for the next two years from now, until it becomes obsolete
Ciao
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what a nice post to read
i read every words in ur post in which u honestly provide by all ur experience from the starting in buying the phone till when u try to solve so issues
last 4 months i try two phone asus zenfone 2 dual sim (64gb) after 2month i sold it and buy and LG v10 64gb then i sold it too
the reason is that really i want an android device that has 128gb of internal storage
and i thinking in only 2 device
either this one Huawei mate 8- 128gb or huawei nexus 6p 128gb
i prefer mate 8 over nexus 6p due to
mate 8 support dual full active sim , support external storage if i want it ( 2nd sim slot) , huge battery , perfect design , nice screen size
but the only thing am afraid from it is the software ( i love huawei launcher ) specially the missing default google play and services
( it may too bother me cuz i format my device from time to time and need every time to re install at least 5-10 apps to get a standard android phone even when we are in 2016 !!! we need to manually solve this )
nexus 6p over this device to me only little bit the camera and in direct and perfect google support
So the question is no is there any hope from Huawei to release other version of 128gb ( rather than Chinese version) any one have any information of any promise from the company if NO ANY HOPE FOR THAT ( i may buy this version in these few days and try to get a benefit from this device and i think i will flash another room over Chinese room )
with my best regards
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what a nice post to read
with my best regards
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Thank you. My pleasure
There is one thing to keep in mind. You CANNOT have dual SIM and have an external SD Card. Either dual SIM or one SIM and one SD Card. SD Card is obviously different than the internal storage.
Unfortunately, there is no NEXUS phone I am aware of that supports SD Cards. I guess this is a Google condition that imposes on vendors. I was also about to get the Huawei Nexux 6P, but for me NO SD CARD, NO PARTY! I actually got an offer from a very good friend I know, who was selling his NEXUS 5 for about 200 euros, and I didn't buy it because it was only 32 GB with no SD card support. So I had really very few choices (maybe 2) Mate 8 was one of them. An SD card is a must and 128 GB internal storage is a must, and if I am not mistaken, I found only tow devices.
If you don't mind rooting the phone, and manually install updates, then you can get a Chinese version, and apply the international version. There are people who already did it and are happy about it.
huaweimate8 said:
thank you. My pleasure
there is one thing to keep in mind. You cannot have dual sim and have an external sd card. Either dual sim or one sim and one sd card. Sd card is obviously different than the internal storage.
yes i know that and thats why i prefer only the 128gb of this device ( i will use 2nd sim card slot as micro sd card slot you can say on need )
so i had really very few choices (maybe 2) mate 8 was one of them. An sd card is a must and 128 gb internal storage is a must, and if i am not mistaken, i found only tow devices.
i have another choice for you asus zenfone 2 ( 128 gb of internal storage )
which support
dual sim slot
separated micro sd card slot ( can use at without affecting the dual sim slot )
price only 400 us dollar
( but the quality and the camera and the screen is not so good that made me to buy this device again as i mentioned previously i bought 64gb of this device
other device called ( letv one max = 4gb ram 128gb rom ,6.33 inch 2560x1440,3400mah 21mp camera 4g lte )
the device is somewhat bizarre to me even with this strong specification it is a pure chinese device and high price about 930 us dollar )
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if you don't mind rooting the phone, and manually install updates, then you can get a chinese version, and apply the international version. There are people who already did it and are happy about it.
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i will do that if i can not tolerate the default chinese apps without rooting first later on i will root it and yes flashing the international firmware over chinese one
thnx alot
HuaweiMate8 said:
Thank you. My pleasure
There is one thing to keep in mind. You CANNOT have dual SIM and have an external SD Card. Either dual SIM or one SIM and one SD Card. SD Card is obviously different than the internal storage.
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yes, u can
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/general/modify-sim-t3300220
jbmc83 said:
yes, u can
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/general/modify-sim-t3300220
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Ooooof! Holy sh*** That is a damn good solution! You guys rock!
stesteste said:
Same here got the China version from Wanda mobile Google play and unlocked already . this phone is fast only few China apps but that doesn't bother me, I would usually root but need my Barclay's all at the moment .. All in all very very happy
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I've seen that Wondamobile now sells also the International version of Mate 8 (NXT-L29) with factory-installed Google Play. My understanding is that they deliver only in UK. Can you confirm that (I mean, are you living in UK?).
Thanks
They delivered mine to UK in 7 days I think they also ship other countries
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I am currently looking for a new phone to replace my Note 2(SGH-i317m). My note 2 has been in service for 3 years, it is still pretty solid device with more than 60% battery left after 1 day of light use. It looks like the Mate 8 is going to be my next phone.

EMUI 5.1 for MHA-AL00C00

As a result of the research I conduct as a part of FunkyHuawei, I've currently got my hands on what looks to be a prerelease version of EMUI 5.1 for the Mate 9, Chinese version (I also have the same build for the Mate 9 Pro). I will be installing it, testing it out, and posting my findings here.
Initial observations:
The boot logo/sound is the same as EMUI 5.
The touch response is VERY NOTICEABLY improved.
The performance is very noticeably improved. Apps open instantaneously.
Although there are strings that indicate it's EMUI 5.1 in the filesystem, 'about phone' still shows Android 7.0 EMUI 5.0
Wifi throughput has improved. I previously got 100mbps, I now get 180mbps.
There is a need to enter an employee Huawei ID login, but I was able to bypass this by not having internet connectivity when starting the phone the first time. Still, it comes up and blocks access to the phone periodically. I'm looking to find a more permanent way around this.
Update: I've gotten around it by rooting and freezing the beta app with Titanium backup. I'll use this as a daily driver and see how it goes.
Screenshot of about phone:
http://imgur.com/Rh53HUL
Is there any services for daydream included yet (pro) ?
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dondavis007 said:
Is there any services for daydream included yet (pro) ?
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I haven't got a pro so I can't be sure. If there's something I can check within the update.app partitions, let me know. I'm not very familiar with daydream.
duraaraa said:
I haven't got a pro so I can't be sure. If there's something I can check within the update.app partitions, let me know. I'm not very familiar with daydream.
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Hi.
I imagine that there should be Daydream specific apks like:
com.google..android.vr.home
com.google.android.vr.inputmethod
Thanks!
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I've got it installed. Working on bypassing a nag screen to enter a Huawei Employee ID login.
Bypassed and now usable as a daily driver
The difference in touch response time is incredible. Typing feels like typing on an iPhone now.
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Bypassed and now usable as a daily driver
The difference in touch response time is incredible. Typing feels like typing on an iPhone now.
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This is great to hear! Always love to see a device develop and better itself, can't wait until the time comes to try this out on my MHA-L09C432
Is there the new Portrait mode in camera?
I believe the P10 and Mate 9 share the same camera hardware and since the small P10 has the same features as P10 plus I expect the Portrait feature to come to the Mate 9 as well.
Are there any voice assistants included, Google Assistant, Amazon Alexa?
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MaTiCeK- said:
Is there the new Portrait mode in camera?
I believe the P10 and Mate 9 share the same camera hardware and since the small P10 has the same features as P10 plus I expect the Portrait feature to come to the Mate 9 as well.
Are there any voice assistants included, Google Assistant, Amazon Alexa?
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The P10 Plus has a different camera and has more features than the regular P10 ( don't know about the new portrait mode ).
MaTiCeK- said:
Is there the new Portrait mode in camera?
I believe the P10 and Mate 9 share the same camera hardware and since the small P10 has the same features as P10 plus I expect the Portrait feature to come to the Mate 9 as well.
Are there any voice assistants included, Google Assistant, Amazon Alexa?
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It's the Chinese version, so no alexa or google. I will be looking into US version betas soon.
I didn't notice any extra camera modes yet. I think this is only the second EMUI 5.1 beta for the Mate 9, though, so it might be coming.
What about notifications.... Facebook, Instagram, Viber, messenger.... Have you test if it's been fixed to this version?
tsiglas said:
What about notifications.... Facebook, Instagram, Viber, messenger.... Have you test if it's been fixed to this version?
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Notifications still have issues, as far as I can tell. Not very good news. Of course, this only applied to the Chinese version.
duraaraa said:
Notifications still have issues, as far as I can tell. Not very good news. Of course, this only applied to the Chinese version.
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That's why I'm asking because I own a Chinese version... Too bad.... Once again for Huawei...I'm starting thinking to debrand...
tsiglas said:
That's why I'm asking because I own a Chinese version... Too bad.... Once again for Huawei...I'm starting thinking to debrand...
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You absolutely should debrand. Chinese version, although it has the fastest updates, is awful.
duraaraa said:
You absolutely should debrand. Chinese version, although it has the fastest updates, is awful.
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After full debrand (with your funkyHuawei) did you notice any problems?
I'm from Greece... It's better to debrand to Europe or International version?
I have already take bootloader unlock code in any case but I have never use all this method with adb etc
tsiglas said:
After full debrand (with your funkyHuawei) did you notice any problems?
I'm from Greece... It's better to debrand to Europe or International version?
I have already take bootloader unlock code in any case but I have never use all this method with adb etc
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With recent version 158, I've never had notification problems. But unless it uses google services for the notifications you have to keep it open in the background. I think Greece would be European version.
Oh my goodness.... Could you clarify how touch response for emui5.0 compares to 5.1??
I'm on build b138 emui 5.0 and already I find this the fastest Android I ever got
duraaraa said:
As a result of the research I conduct as a part of FunkyHuawei, I've currently got my hands on what looks to be a prerelease version of EMUI 5.1 for the Mate 9, Chinese version (I also have the same build for the Mate 9 Pro). I will be installing it, testing it out, and posting my findings here. I am considering making it install-able via FunkyHuawei to a limited number of Mate 9 users as well.
The change log gives us no new information, but the latest build number is B202 (there is also a B201). Looking at the update.app, there are strings which indicate that it is EMUI 5.1 -- it is also maintained separately from the EMUI 5.0 closed betas, the latest of which is B173.
More information coming once I've installed it. I'd guess roughly around 7 or 8 hours after this post.
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Can you install CPU-Z and look at the build versions mentioned there?

ZTE Axon 7 Max - no play store

I ordered a ZTE Axon 7 Max from china using eBay, and it came without the Play Store. I couldnt find it on the chinese ZTE store, and sideloading the apk let me install it but it wont open. Its in the open apps key but it won't load, like its blocked. Anyone have a fix? With how long it took to get it here and deal with the non-English speaking employees of this electronics sales group, I'd rather not have to send it back, but without rooting it and flashing another ROM it seems like this phone is nearly useless as an android without the Play Services being able to be used. This is a very frustrating situation, if its device specific I'm going to be livid that it wasn't in the description that it should only be purchased by Chinese clientele and not a functioning device outside their country...
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I ordered a ZTE Axon 7 Max from china using eBay, and it came without the Play Store. I couldnt find it on the chinese ZTE store, and sideloading the apk let me install it but it wont open. Its in the open apps key but it won't load, like its blocked. Anyone have a fix? With how long it took to get it here and deal with the non-English speaking employees of this electronics sales group, I'd rather not have to send it back, but without rooting it and flashing another ROM it seems like this phone is nearly useless as an android without the Play Services being able to be used. This is a very frustrating situation, if its device specific I'm going to be livid that it wasn't in the description that it should only be purchased by Chinese clientele and not a functioning device outside their country...
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Lol you need much more than just the play store app... There are a bunch of other apps that have to be installed on the system to make everything work. For example Play Services
It IS a frustrating situation but you could have avoided it by investigating first. Chinese phones never come with Google apps, only some phones that are previously unlocked and tampered with by the sellers come with it preinstalled. What you have to do to install Google stuff is unlock the bootloader (I don't even know if there's a guide anywhere to do that, since I heard very little about the Max), install TWRP, and flash OpenGApps or BeansGApps
i was actually able to install google play store and google play services as downloaded apk files. I transferred them from computer to phone via cable. And they got installed and work.
Happy days!
What is an Axon 7 Max? Extra large screen?
RobboW said:
Happy days!
What is an Axon 7 Max? Extra large screen?
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Dual camera, standard Chinese design on the front, 3D LCD display (although some say that it's only good when displaying photos from the dual cam). Also I think it has zero development
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sagimarius said:
i was actually able to install google play store and google play services as downloaded apk files. I transferred them from computer to phone via cable. And they got installed and work.
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On an axon 7 max?
The axon 7 max i would say is a completely separate device from the axon 7, and unfortunately does not seem to even have development for it on XDA, since it has a snapdragon 625 processor compared to our snapdagon 820. So if you thought you got it because of the "max" branding and thought everything in this forum will work for you, then you're wrong my dude but hey if you figure out how to unlock bootloader, install TWRP, remove verity and install Magisk, you could possibly create development threads in the Android General forum and Android Software Development forum for the 7 Max, unless there already is.
And hey still, perhaps you could try some of the development stuff from here, but I won't take responsibility for bricking your device.
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Dual camera, standard Chinese design on the front, 3D LCD display (although some say that it's only good when displaying photos from the dual cam). Also I think it has zero development
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On an axon 7 max?
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Yes, on Axon 7 Max, C2017, the 3D one...
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Yes, on Axon 7 Max, C2017, the 3D one...
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Yes, I know... That's why you shouldn't use anything from here
I dare to disagree with you... I would actually love to have root access and to be able to install gapps on it. I can"t even import my google contacts as the google account is not seen as an option in the Phonebook"s settings... Strangely, the Yahoo and Facebook accounts are an option... There is an "Add Acount">Exchange Account>Google option, but, when typing in the gmail details, it will say "This account exists" and then with "Start" as the only option, open my gmail emails....
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I dare to disagree with you... I would actually love to have root access and to be able to install gapps on it. I can"t even import my google contacts as the google account is not seen as an option in the Phonebook"s settings... Strangely, the Yahoo and Facebook accounts are an option... There is an "Add Acount">Exchange Account>Google option, but, when typing in the gmail details, it will say "This account exists" and then with "Start" as the only option, open my gmail emails....
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You disagree with what? Yeah, sure, the world would be a better place with root and all, but unfortunately, you are on the A2017X forum. You have a C2017. No help here.
It sais "Axon 7" in the title, not A2017X, right? C2017 is an "Axon 7" too... It's the Max version of the Axon 7. Isn't it?
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It sais "Axon 7" in the title, not A2017X, right? C2017 is an "Axon 7" too... It's the Max version of the Axon 7. Isn't it?
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Nope. Phones don't work that way man...
They could have called that phone the "Blade V958" and you would not make this dumb argument.
What SOC does the Max have? SD65x?
Think about it this way:
-There are 3 variants of the Axon 7. The A2017, the A2017G and the A2017U. Cross-flashing kills the radio or even wipes the IMEIs.
There are 3 phones that fall under the Axon 7 category: Axon 7, Axon 7 mini, and Axon 7 max. They are A2017X, B2017X and C2017X. The Mini has just recently gotten a tool to unlock it. It has nothing to do with the Axon 7's. THEY ARE DIFFERENT PHONES
There are two variants of the Moto G 2. Titan and Thea. One has 4G and the other hasn't. Cross-flashing bricks the phones. (If you actually modded the files so that they would flash)
In these two examples these phones have exactly the same SOC. SD820 for the Axon 7, SD40x for the G 2.
Now think about what would happen if you flashed anything from another SOC to the phone...
Don't try to force the argument. You can't even use the same tools for unlocking because axon7tool will write in another address and you'll hopelessly hard-brick your phone forever.

Difference between chinaese and european version

Hi everione! I have great deal for honor 8 lite (about 140 euros for brand new phone), but its version for China market. So now, i have few questions before deciding should i buy that phone...
Can you tell me what are differences between chinaese and euro version, and can i make google play to work without rooting phone?
Will google play install aplications on english lang, or on chinaese?
I readed about rebranding phone, but havent findend any tutorial for honor 8 lite. Are there tutorials at all? Because i would like to flash euro version of firmware.
And last question, will 4g work on that phone, will signal be normal, or chinaese signal antenas work on different frequency?
Thank you all, and sorry for bad English
well...i advise that you buy the model that comes to your region's market... Chinese models (i had honor 3c Chinese version) are not compatible with euro ROMs and will have alot of bugs. and you won't receive any OTA updates if you install an incompatible ROM... Huawei is bad with updates and if you install an euro ROM you risk bricking your device...i flashed a Chinese ROM on my honor 8 lite and it bricked my phone...so i think doing the vise versa will do the same...for google apps...the apps will detect the system language and there is no Chinese apps in the google play market so don't worry about the language
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If i can make google play to work with no problems, i would not fllash euro rom... Only google play and language in aps are important...
What about antenas? Do they work on same frequency or signal will be lower?
I dont have einough money to buy euro version of this phone, that is reason why i consider chinaese model...
Thank you for quick answer
They are all the same and be sure that the have no differences in signals or other things
Just have to say that , I think the Chinese version name is "Honor 8 Lite" but Euro version name is "P8 Lite 2017" ( I just Think but I know that this phone has two names , like this phone name is " Honor 8 Lite " in Iran.
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They are all the same and be sure that the have no differences in signals or other things
Just have to say that , I think the Chinese version name is "Honor 8 Lite" but Euro version name is "P8 Lite 2017" ( I just Think but I know that this phone has two names , like this phone name is " Honor 8 Lite " in Iran.
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Not Chinese version name ,
it is launched in India as honor 8 lite.
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Not Chinese version name ,
it is launched in India as honor 8 lite.
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I really don't understand why Huawei chooses to releases two phones with different names.
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Nah. They can release a phone with only one model number. Confusion will be less that way.
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Rommco05 said:
Yes but I don't think so Huawei P8lie 2017 and Honor 8 lite is the same phones
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Nah. Do your research.
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adriansticoid said:
I really don't understand why Huawei chooses to releases two phones with different names.
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Just for marketting bro ,in some regions honor has good popularity so they launched the phone under honor for more sales .
venugopalu007 said:
Just for marketting bro ,in some regions honor has good popularity so they launched the phone under honor for more sales .
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Not a very good marketing strategy.
adriansticoid said:
Not a very good marketing strategy.
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But they sales are going well

XIAOMI SMARTPHONES CAN NO LONGER INSTALL GOOGLE SERVICES IN CHINA

Xiaomi has confirmed that smartphones that do not initially come with Google’s service platform can no longer install the company’s services and applications. Most devices in China do not support GMS because Google services are banned in the country. Xiaomi did not disclose the list of models affected by this policy change, however, Redmi K30 Ultra and Redmi 10X 5G users have confirmed that they are no longer able to install Google apps.
https://www.gizchina.com/2021/02/02...n-no-longer-install-google-services-in-china/
it only applies to chinese firmwares
bilalrajput said:
it only applies to chinese firmwares
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Just to say that buying a Chinese version (cheaper) and changing the rom maybe problematic
NOSS8 said:
Just to say that buying a Chinese version (cheaper) and changing the rom maybe problematic
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that is why we uses xiaomi.eu rom
Obviously this can't be good for Xiaomi's future android development.
Then again, supposedly over half of their revenue already comes from outside China. So I don't think they'll go down without a fight.
In other news, Huawei's Android alternative is apparently just a rebranded copy: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/02/harmonyos-hands-on-huaweis-android-killer-is-just-android/
What would be really good is if developments like this make Google develop Android as less of a walled garden. Not make everything dependent on google services framework, but develop the open source forks more.
NOSS8 said:
Xiaomi has confirmed that smartphones that do not initially come with Google’s service platform can no longer install the company’s services and applications. Most devices in China do not support GMS because Google services are banned in the country. Xiaomi did not disclose the list of models affected by this policy change, however, Redmi K30 Ultra and Redmi 10X 5G users have confirmed that they are no longer able to install Google apps.
https://www.gizchina.com/2021/02/02...n-no-longer-install-google-services-in-china/
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i just got my k30 ultra 4 days ago , no problems installing gms here , im fine without it tho
If only Google services could be optional in all countries
Merantau226 said:
i just got my k30 ultra 4 days ago , no problems installing gms here , im fine without it tho
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Maybe one that was in stock.
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Maybe one that was in stock.
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i mean they are all over , giztop , ebay , just look around , if thats what you want to get
Merantau226 said:
i mean they are all over , giztop , ebay , just look around , if thats what you want to get
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I meant the merchants bought them in 2020 and are reselling them to you in 2021.
And this concerns phones in Android 11 not 10.
NOSS8 said:
I meant the merchants bought them in 2020 and are reselling them to you in 2021.
And this concerns phones in Android 11 not 10.
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oh yea 4 months ago and yes in the beta roms but root solves all of that the official android 11 for k30 ultra hasnt been released its not a big deal for me tho , phones actually run better without gms , i was just saying for ppl that want it
I guess it's only for chinese ROM, should upgrade to a custom ROM
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I guess it's only for chinese ROM, should upgrade to a custom ROM
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It concerns phones that do not have their equivalent in other countries (with Google Mobile Services), those that exist only in China. Before it was possible to install google services on these phones now it will no longer be possible ( modification by Xiaomi).
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